The fractal is fine. It does not need to be split up. People who know what they’re doing can beat it in about 30 minutes on average.
However, there are a couple of points in this thread that I do agree with to an extent. The respawn timer for the bombs should be reduced. Having a 60 second timer is more reasonable than the 2-3 minutes. By the timer a bomb explodes, and everyone regroups, the bombs would then be ready to be placed again.
The dredge car should stay as I see it more of an endurance challenge than anything else. Adding a progress bar (I don’t remember there being one) may alleviate some of the issues. Shifting the ‘event’ to focus on the dredge car instead of the waves of dredge could be another way to go.
Any1 noticed that after latest patch (26th November) the chance of getting upgrades is a lot more than 20%? I dislike this alot and wouldnt mind if the chance was 0%. Minor sigils/runes are so useless, I just want my mats and luck from salvaging.
A lot of people have noticed this as well and even the wiki has been updated to mention this anomaly. Hopefully they can fix it.
I never got why people thought there would be steam creatures. That hidden boss after FE doesn’t mean anything.
As far as the fractal, and my choice, yes I am very happy.
Lol. Clearly you missed the whole point of the place if you think the hidden boss has no meaning.
Look closer and you’ll see the creatures phasing in and out of existence. They also get a dazed buff which has a description of “This creature has been displaced from it’s original location” (or something like that) when they appear. This means they come from a different reality or spot in the world. Also strange portals appearing in all the reactor’s rooms spewing black creatures. Finally, the secret boss event is called Defeat the Misplaced Steam Ogre, indicating that all these things are linked somehow.
Every creature was misplaced. If it was a unicorn would you assume that the reactor must be tied to them somehow?
Sorry but choosing to bring people that have zero AR into high level fractals where agony scales is not the same as fractals not being casual. Your problem is that you chose to handicap your guild groups. It’s like me choosing to do a dungeon naked and then claim that it’s not casual anymore because I keep dying. There’s absolutely no reason for them to be that high anyway when their personal reward level is much much much lower.
Also be aware that one of the fractal levels (45?) has you take constant agony damage.
It’s a fractal. No other fractals have had much of a story if any at all. It would not have mattered if Abaddon was chosen since then we’d have this exact same thread only people will be claiming Kiel should have been chosen instead. It doesn’t matter.
Umm… this is already in the game.
I enjoy the fractal. I often prefer it as I can usually get good drops and it’s how I got most of my shards to upgrade rings.
Unless you need some item specifically available in fractals, there isn’t. People don’t run fractals to make gold.
I never got why people thought there would be steam creatures. That hidden boss after FE doesn’t mean anything.
As far as the fractal, and my choice, yes I am very happy.
Likely tied to what was discussed briefly in the fractal story.
Just because it’s a story mode does not mean you should not have any challenge. It is in fact a fractal and nothing like the story mode version of the dungeons.
If you’re in a maze like room and can’t figure out what to do, explore it.
You’re supposed to do it in a group. When I said be aware of your surroundings I was referring to the same thing you do when you play a Legend of Zelda game. Only this fractals is very very simpler.
People die so quickly because most of the player base is accustomed to zerging that allows you to just spam your #1 skill while afk. The turret room was a puzzle and you needed to explore all of it to figure out what to do. The ooze boss you should be able to figure out after the first attempt. The final boss requires you to watch the floor and basically range attack it.
It was pretty simple. Just pay attention to your surroundings.
And now it’s easy:
http://dulfy.net/2013/11/27/gw2-thaumanova-reactor-fractal-guide/
Sylvarri came to life long long after the fall of Abaddon. It wouldn’t make sense unless she has a DeLorien.
It’s a fractal so what do you expect? You’re not going to have some deep story in these.
There are traits that reduce fall damage
You can also negate damage by dodging.
Is my maths correct for making +10 infusion resistance?
1×2×2x2x2×2×2x2x2×2=512 pieces of +1 infusion resistance to make one +10 infusion resistance
if yes, then GW2 FOTM= super grind
Not really. You currently don’t need that much AR and by the time you do, you’ll likely have a high enough level that higher versions drop. Not just +1’s drop in fractals.
No. Those are from limited time living story events.
I did it just fine with a group (5 people). People have also solo’d the events and champs as well.
I love the one where if one member dies, the whole party dies.
What’s next? A green predator with water effecvts or a red flameseeker with flame effects for 1000 gem? This game is already a pay2win game, but we not got more strenght, we omnly got pathetic reskins, buggy patches, shllaow repetable killing xy and search z contents, and story? where is that? sry for my eng, but this is simply pathetic.
And for anet lovers, watch the gw1 in-game store after 8 year:
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild_Wars_In-Game_Store
And we got the all armor sets on the last 2 year before gw2 is released…
While I’m not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing with your post entirely, I do disagree with your comment that the game has pay to win. It doesn’t. If it does, list them.
The patch/update isn’t a hint? There’s also the story item listed as you’re logging in before the character selection screen.
Why does there need to be mail indicating that you do the new fractals, and the meta achievements tied to fractals, in fractals which have been available for over a year?
No the Dev’s have never taken that stance and if you have a link that proves me other wise stop spreading lies.
From the FAQ on the wiki:
Will there be mounts?
No. For traveling long distance, the game will offer the two types of teleports above (waypoints and asura gates), but the initial release does not have any other methods, i.e. there are no mounts or ships.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Questions
Dev interview stating there are no plans. There’s also a video of this but I don’t have the link. Of course this doesn’t mean no plans ever but it’s hardly likely they will. By the way, the first GW did not have mounts.
No, see the line you link to is not what the Dev said during the interview, the line as read per your link is someone else wording on the Wiki which I didn’t bother looking up who that was….if you look at the end of that line is the link to the original interview and statement from Guild Wars 2 Lead Designer Eric Flannum and the question and answer was:
Will be there any other kind of traveling across long distances apart from asura gates (e.g. ship)?
Eric: Any of the major (non-capturable) waypoints that a player has unlocked can be travelled to regardless of the distance involved. Prices do vary depending on distance though, and asura gates are free, so a player might find it advantageous to use asura gates in some circumstances. Other than waypoints and asura gates, there will be no other methods of long distance travel such as mounts, ships, etc in Guild Wars 2 upon initial release.
Which basically the other statement did include the “upon initial release” which makes the meaning say that they are not committing to any statement that says yes or no. But the wiki starts out saying flat out NO which is not what he said at all.
And yes they did have mounts.
That was just ONE source. There are many more including a video that states they have no plans.
Seeing the progress on each server would answer this question. Someone do some guesting and take photos! If they are all identical then it is not player-based. If they vary then we can assume it is tied to player completion.
This makes no sense at all.
I’m not saying that the meter is or isn’t player driven, but to say that if each server isn’t different then it’s a timer is ridiculous.
Due to the nature of how the overflow system works the meter is global, as in all servers (including the overflow servers), combined. To think that Anet could coordinate a global Trading Post but not a simple single variable meter is nonsense.
I think it would be a fairly logical conclusion…
Server populations vary drastically. I highly doubt that Anet would have a scaling progress bar based on population (high pop server requires X injections, low pop requires Y injections for example). I would put my money that they would make it fixed across all servers. Even if they did scale it, it still wouldn’t explain how they would all be identical, if they in fact were, which we don’t know anyway.
Using that as an underlying assumption, it would be fair to say that if you checked all server progresses (high, low, middle) and all progress bars were identical, that the bar is not player driven but rather time driven. I don’t know how that doesn’t make sense. It is a completely reasonable conclusion.
Whether or not it is true is yet to be proven, but make sense it does.
Your assumption that if all servers’ bars are the same would indicate that the bar is time based would not be reasonable. There is also the possibility that there is only one bar that is shared by all servers. Just as there is only one TP that is shared by all servers.
Pretty much what I was going to say.
I agree that voting against RNG boxes themselves was pointless. However, people voting against Evon because they did not want rewards tied to it is not. There’s a very subtle difference between the two.
That’s how I originally took your post. It appeared that you were stating that those who didn’t want black lion keys as a reward because they disliked RNG were wrong and their votes didn’t count.
I mostly voted against RNG boxes, not for Thaumanova let alone against Abaddon.
I get that’s what you get when you ask for a vote for :
- some lore / story driven plot,
- an epic-sounding /not so epic new fractal,
- a poll of opinion on RNG boxes,
all in the same bulletin !Your vote “against the RNG boxes” doesn’t count you know, YOU may see Evon Gnashblade as a symbol of the BLTC and RNG boxes, but Arenanet does not. Evon Gnashblade is a fictional character, the person behind the BLTC has been doing RNG microtransactions for many years in Maplestory. Arenanet hired her because she’s very good at knowing what people will fork over real money for, and they’ve determined that people are addicted to gambling and will continue to buy RNG boxes for the chance at a skin despite the odds and despite spending hundreds of dollars on RNG boxes and getting nothing they want over and over again they still do it.
For every 10 people who refuse to buy even $5 in RNG boxes for something they want, there’s one person who spends $500 trying to get it, that’s a net profit in Anet’s eyes so they will continue to do it.
Your vote against a fictional character is laughably insignificant and does nothing but make people facepalm over your wasted votes.
You want to vote against RNG? Never buy gamble boxes, and SHAME people who do buy RNG boxes. If you see someone complaining about spending $40 on RNG boxes and not getting the skin, point out how much of an idiot they are for gambling away and just encouraging more RNG boxes.
RNG boxes in the cash shop will continue until there isn’t a market for them.
If you’re thinking “hold on, those idiots gambling are supporting Anet with their purchases, I shouldn’t shame them and discourage them from supporting Anet!” No, you should shame them for buying RNG boxes, you should encourage people supporting anet by buying things that are sold straight up in the gem shop like costumes, armors, infinite gathering tools, finishers, etc.
If you want to discourage RNG, you have to encourage monetization another way.
Well by that logic then Evon isn’t responsible for the Abaddon fractal as he isn’t the one designing it. All votes for that fractal don’t count.
The same can be made about Kiel as well.
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There are many players that don’t care for fractals so they went by either reduced wp costs or cheaper black lion keys.
I am pretty sure that neither fractal decision nor keys/wp costs option decided the result. In the end, majority of players were simply choosing between human female and charr male. It’s actually surprising that Evon got that much voices at all.
For some people yes but I seriously doubt it was a significant deciding factor.
Pretty much. It’s not going to be a real meta so don’t expect any story progression. There very well be an item for completing it and most likely a back item. It seems this is just a preparation for players to stock up for ascended armor.
Yes because only ignorant players don’t vote for what you think is the “best” fractal. Or are you thinking players who played GW1 are more entitled to decide content in GW2?
There are many players that don’t care for fractals so they went by either reduced wp costs or cheaper black lion keys. Of these two, it seems players were smart enough to realize that reduced wp costs were more cost effective than cheaper black lion keys for RNG rewards. Even more evident by the following living story with scarlet invasions.
Abaddon was in GW1. If people wanted to see him, they could just play that game. Also realize that you will very inlikely see an epic battle. A lot of people actually wanted the reactor fractal as well.
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Would you prefer another back piece?
Kiel is like Trahearne, someone who benefited from our hard work in slaying the bad guys.
Evon is like a Saint, someone who single handedly saved Lion’s Arch without piggybacking off of another hero’s work.
The choice was obvious. Evon should have won on merit alone.
You mean extort, not save.
Starting at 31. 19 instabilities will mean the last one falls on 49.
Well that makes no sense. What do we do at 50??
Tribulation Mode. You have all 19 instabilities at the same time.
Broke people voted for Ellen. Fact.
People tend to vote for whoever gives them free handouts and such. Happens in real life too so that’s politics for you.
I voted knowing full well that it would have Inquest. If I wanted to see Abbadon lore, I’d play GW1.
I don’t know!! I wanted to know that, cannot believe no one asked that! I was watching but could not ask questions.
They demo the Aetherblade Dungeon. Do you recall the part where you stack in a corner to protect yourself from all the cannons (right before the laser room). Well, that was a Kaboom-fest! It was glorious.
I can only imagine all the amazing possibilities if the instabilities were randomly applied at 31+
I seriously hope they fixed that so people actually have to use the mechanics rather than just afk in a corner during the trap attack phases.
thank you for the clarification!
Here’s the specifics
yes, I meant in open world and in WvW. Did you mean to say that in open world, including WvW, there are only 2h of ‘night’?
He was saying that an entire game day spans 2 in real life hours. Of the game day, most of it is during the day.
Aren’t those two achievements locked out until you beat him the first time anyway?
Yes and today won’t count anymore. I am not sure if Anet made this on purpose but the last day of the Ls never counts towards the achievement anymore. So if you played on an EU server that would of been the case last night, if you’re playing on an NA server then it’s most likely the reason that it was your first time and unfortunately unless this has been changed, you will not have the option anymore to finish that achievement since the new patch comes tomorrow.
If you’re referring to the daily achievement, it was for the injection and not the kill. Technically today’s should count and the tower achievements are still a go for about another 2 weeks.
Oh don’t get me wrong, we finished it, it’s just the guy had no idea what he was doing, and started on 10 because his friend told him it was a good idea. If you know what your doing at 35, I think you can make it, but I’d much prefer an exotic’d up 80.
There is no guarantee that said lvl 80 have ever been to the Fractals either though. Just because one is lvl 80 doesn’t mean you have a clue about what you are doing.
You do have a larger room for error though as a level 80. Would you do fractals in a group of level 35’s? You probably aren’t part of the lv35 vs 80 part of the thread but I wanted to bring up that question.
You… Can’t do a fractal above 9 with level 35s….. Agony… And stuff…. Being scaled to 80 doesn’t mean…. Never mind.
I would do a fractal with a bunch of people with prl 35, though……..What are we even talking about here?!
You’ll have to read the entire thread. It was brought up that level 35’s could do fractals without being a liability or being carried. What you just wrote about AR is another thing that I agree with.
I read the entire thread. There was something about comparing lvl 80s to lvl 35s and how some lvl 80s are bad or not as good as a good 35, but that’s really not the case if those levels are strictly prl. A level 80 prl can’t really be a bad player. A level 35 character can be better in say, AC than a crappy lvl 80, but we’re not talking about dungeons, we’re talking about fractals.
So I’m confused.
It was about actual character levels, not reward levels.
Here’s the post that started it:
Oh don’t get me wrong, we finished it, it’s just the guy had no idea what he was doing, and started on 10 because his friend told him it was a good idea. If you know what your doing at 35, I think you can make it, but I’d much prefer an exotic’d up 80.
There is no guarantee that said lvl 80 have ever been to the Fractals either though. Just because one is lvl 80 doesn’t mean you have a clue about what you are doing.
You do have a larger room for error though as a level 80. Would you do fractals in a group of level 35’s? You probably aren’t part of the lv35 vs 80 part of the thread but I wanted to bring up that question.
You… Can’t do a fractal above 9 with level 35s….. Agony… And stuff…. Being scaled to 80 doesn’t mean…. Never mind.
I would do a fractal with a bunch of people with prl 35, though……..What are we even talking about here?!
You’ll have to read the entire thread. It was brought up that level 35’s could do fractals without being a liability or being carried. What you just wrote about AR is another thing that I agree with.
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Oh don’t get me wrong, we finished it, it’s just the guy had no idea what he was doing, and started on 10 because his friend told him it was a good idea. If you know what your doing at 35, I think you can make it, but I’d much prefer an exotic’d up 80.
There is no guarantee that said lvl 80 have ever been to the Fractals either though. Just because one is lvl 80 doesn’t mean you have a clue about what you are doing.
You do have a larger room for error though as a level 80. Would you do fractals in a group of level 35’s? Why or why not?
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Aren’t those two achievements locked out until you beat him the first time anyway?
No the Dev’s have never taken that stance and if you have a link that proves me other wise stop spreading lies.
From the FAQ on the wiki:
Will there be mounts?
No. For traveling long distance, the game will offer the two types of teleports above (waypoints and asura gates), but the initial release does not have any other methods, i.e. there are no mounts or ships.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Questions
Dev interview stating there are no plans. There’s also a video of this but I don’t have the link. Of course this doesn’t mean no plans ever but it’s hardly likely they will. By the way, the first GW did not have mounts.
People are speculating for the December update expecting them to be used like the candy corn.
Based on the rate it’s going, plan for it to be completed near Dec 10th.