I agree. It’s amazing how effective the words ’I’m sorry’ can be to mend a disagreement or issue when given genuinely. From my own observations, I’m glad that Anet are trying some different approaches and being creative with their events, gear etc – but it can be risky. The major problem is that in some cases the concerns of the most important stakeholder – the player/customer are not fully considered. Mind you, it doesn’t help when there are such polar opposites in player opinion on almost all the current issues – Anet are somewhat stuck between a rock and a hard place….
They are stuck between a rock and a hard place, in the same sense that a Chinese restaurant would be, if they decided to snatch up your chow mein mid-meal and replace it with a burger instead, because the burger business is more lucrative.
I have no sympathy for them at all. There is no reasonable argument for them being “stuck”.
I disagree. It’s more like they offered you an all you can eat over a five hour period – but you got through it in two hours.
Given that you had already allowed another 3 hours of time to be spent at the restaurant – they offered you drinks as well.
You can’t be serious with that analogy.
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I agree. It’s amazing how effective the words ’I’m sorry’ can be to mend a disagreement or issue when given genuinely. From my own observations, I’m glad that Anet are trying some different approaches and being creative with their events, gear etc – but it can be risky. The major problem is that in some cases the concerns of the most important stakeholder – the player/customer are not fully considered. Mind you, it doesn’t help when there are such polar opposites in player opinion on almost all the current issues – Anet are somewhat stuck between a rock and a hard place….
They are stuck between a rock and a hard place, in the same sense that a Chinese restaurant would be, if they decided to snatch up your chow mein mid-meal and replace it with a burger instead, because the burger business is more lucrative.
I have no sympathy for them at all. There is no reasonable argument for them being “stuck”.
Ridiculous. If anything, they’re putting a burger on the table next to your chow mein. They’re taking nothing away. If you think they are, that’s a problem with your own perception, not with the game itself.
You can’t have it both ways. It’s either grinding game or it’s not.
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That was never my intention in my message. They asked, I provided. If they choose to not listen and not implement some type of progression, tighten PVP to something more… and implement some basic MMO features such as a dungeon finder, macros, and other items… then what do I lose? Nothing. Me, and other players like me, will simply not log in and not purchase any xpacs. And you, and players like you continue to live in your GW2 bliss.
Their response was “we’re not adding a gear grind”, which they didn’t. That thread amounted to a group of thoughtless, angry players baselessly calling ArenaNet liars a few thousand times, that’s all. Just because people refuse to accept the truth of the matter doesn’t make said truth any less true.
Also calling the truth by a different name doesn’t make it any less of a truth.
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I agree with the OP. They have given us their final answer, as made clear by closing the other thread and referring us back to the Chris Whiteside post which brought up more questions than answers. That’s Anet’s position – like it or leave it.
This.
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They give you an update and you guys flip tables, you want them to reply with “aww baby its ok i give you hug”
Not by a long shot. I am interested in direct statements, like “Look folks. Here’s the deal…” instead of plain PR talks where everything is wrapped up in a nice little pink gift paper. Just want from them to be straight about it. That’s all I’m hopping for.
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You folks, people who post stuff like this, have no idea what bad game management even looks like. I’ve played enough MMOs to have experience with TRULY bad management staff, and ANet’s not even a blip on the radar yet by comparison.
Oh the irony. I love when people have the guts (and reasoning skills) to say to everyone who disagrees with them how much the rest lacks in knowledge. Tell us oh great overlord. Share your wisdom with us.
Give me a break and don’t patronize people. Because in the universe I come from, that is considered bad behavior and plain rude. You got no clue how much hard gamers are there and how much experience those same “lesser” people have. So stop building a pedestal for yourself and come down to earth.
11k posts about the same thing, even it being a “discussion” as you call it, still requires a response from the officials. At least they should chime in once in a while and not completely disregard the “discussion”.
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Then go back. You should have never bought this game because it wasn’t made for you. But because of illiterate dungeon trolls like you who can’t be bothered to read about a game before buying it DEMANDED that ArenaNet give them a hamster-wheel to run on, they ruined the game for the people that they originally pitched the game to.
Its because of you content locusts that the MMO genre just got pushed back into the dark ages after only 3 months in the sun. You’re a piece of scum. Enjoy the rest of high school.
I second this. Sad, really sad. It turned out to be that Hamster-wheel gear hunting became a “must-have” for MMORPG as standard and i blame people like these maybe even more than Arenanet
I don’t. These guys like that play-style and that’s fine with me. I personally don’t like it but I can’t blame them for enjoying it. I solely blame Anet for not sticking with their teachings.
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Its been this way for some time – think about the exploiters that got to keep their ill gotten gains. They dont have roll back tech so each one was asked to delete it on the good conscious. Right they exploited the game and they will be good players.
Unfortunately for you Anet doest care about this. What they do care about is that you stop complaining about the RNG be a good little gamer and go grind your treadmill.
Pretty soon there will be a huge economic and gear gap between the real playersmost dedicated players and the casuals. Since you are not one of the preferred players it doesnt matter.
Sorry to say but that is just how it is. I agree but dont bother.
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I honestly don’t understand why the introduction of Ascended Gear is so troublesome.
It doesn’t affect PvE because you can complete any dungeon/DE with decent gear, so it’s not like having Ascended Gear is going to give you a significant advantage. My Mesmer has a full set of rare gear and I can compete in any Dungeon/DE without any issues. As for WvWvW, the fights are team based, meaning if you encounter somebody who has Ascended Gear, your team can just focus that individual down; it really isn’t that bad. It’s not like Ascended Gear is easy to attain, so you won’t encounter a lot of people with it.
The only significant issue with Ascended Gear is in PvP, but even then, not many players play PvP.
I’m sorry but I’m guessing you don’t exactly know how sPvP works here? I’m guessing sPvP is what you ment, since you mentioned www in your post. http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Structured_PvP
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Some things I just find completely unfriendly to players;
1. Legendary – the impossible chance of acquisition but what else is there to do?
2. Ascended – the grind from beyond reason
3. Diminishig Returns; punish players for playing the game
4. The feeling that I must farm to have a chance to do anything worthwhile – and yet being punished for farming with diminishing returns
5. Being hosed by fractal; group member disconnects, now we are stuck (in TOR I call friends OR bust out my well-geared companion)
6. Falling to my death for using my best skills
7. Jumping puzzles beyond reason – being unable to complete several events/completion because of this
8. One time events that were over before I could log in – and am left slightly greebled about that
There are plenty of others, but I think these cover some of my most painful gripes.
I actually never wanted/planned on getting a Legendary. I just don’t care about it.
I agree with 90% of the 220+-pages thread how much this sucks.
I didn’t play for over a week now so can’t comment on Fractals, but I loved doing Jumping puzzles. I actually did several of them every day (changing the ones I do everyday so I don’t get bored by memorizing it completely).
This, for me, was a really great game that I loved to play, even next to all the bugs and unbalances. It really was.
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They know and they don’t care. That’s how I see it.
I guess some of you guys were right saying “Take it or leave it”. Nothing is going to change, so might as well take the advice.
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Well it’s my understanding that they won’t respond to this. They gave us the PR talk in that blog post and that’s about it. They’ve been active about other issues on these forums (quite active in fact) but not a single word on this issue.
Since forums have become more fun that the game, I’m still going to lurk for a while here, but I’ve officially given up on this game.
Hope they surprise me, but not in the way they already have with the latest patch.
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“This is just the beginning. In November, we’re only adding the first level of Infusions and Ascended Rings and Back slots, so that leaves us a lot of room to build upon these levels of Item progression in future content. As we release more new end game content in the future, you’ll see more Infusions and Ascended item types being added to the game. Eventually, you’ll be able to kit yourself out with a full set of Ascended gear and high end Infusions to help give you the edge in end game content.”
“Here’s what we believe: If someone wants to play for a thousand hours to get an item that is so rare that other players can’t realistically acquire it, that rare item should be differentiated by its visual appearance and rarity alone, not by being more powerful than everything else in the game. Otherwise, your MMO becomes all about grinding to get the best gear. We don’t make grindy games — we leave the grind to other MMOs.”
-Mike Obrien, President of Arenanet
Quoting Anet. That’s a no, no! Infraction incoming!
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They aren’t going to do it because they plan on continuing with adding 2-3 pieces of ascended gear every 3-4 months. They are also tieing content directly to agony. GW1 and people who hate gear treedmills lost.
No… ANet lost.
I have a feeling like I lost, so we all did I’m afraid.
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Would you tip a pizza delivery guy who insulted your mother, whizzed on your lawn, and called you a drugged-out-freeloader before giving you that pizza? The pizza is the most amazing pizza ever. But would you even accept the delivery under that kind of treatment?
Would you tip a pizza delivery guy who insulted your mother, whizzed on your lawn, and called you a drugged-out-freeloader before giving you that pizza? The pizza is the most amazing pizza ever. But would you even accept the delivery under that kind of treatment?
That’s an awful analogy. Deviating from the manifesto is much more like a pizza company delivering you a pepperoni pizza instead of a margherita.
Whilst you get more stuff, it’s not what you asked for.
There were no insults thrown around and they certainly didn’t whizz over the lawn.
They deliver you pepperoni pizza but you’re allergic to pepperoni. Still kick him in the nuts!
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Yeah. Mods are handing out infractions like candies! And the super-mods (don’t know how they call people who oversee mod’s work) aren’t responding to emails raising the question of mod’s work.
It’s called doing damage control the WAR/EA/AOC way.……..
I know right!? But with their damage control they are only damaging themselves. Will they ever learn that?
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If ANet just sold nice weapon skins and armor skins (did not have to be Precursors or Legendaries) I would be extactic. Personally I do not like the Legendaries, I love a few of the precursor skins though.
I’m all for this! If you ask me I think there should be lots and lots of skins in the cash shop. But unique ones, that can’t otherwise be found in the game.
And yes, I see GW2 going the way of gear treadmills, which is why selling skins, even those of Precursors and Legendaries makes sense. These items have no direct effect on combat and little effect on the games economy if they are account bound (considering that ANet wants Precursors and Legendaries to be easier to obtain).
And if people still want to be elitist in game, they can do so by grinding out gear for stats endlessly.
Unfortunately, I agree with you. That’s the way this game has taken.
There would be no grinding for stats without this latest patch. Just grinding for the Legendary skin if you want it. And that’s the whole point IMO. The latest patch just divides the community, through elitism.
Right, I would not even suggest selling Precursors or Legendaries if that was end game. But it is no longer end game and it seems like ANet really wants to make these items more common. Hell, in the last event they were basically handing out Legendary items.
But Precursors and Legendaries is not end game, and I expect ANet to introduce more Precursors and Legendary items with in the year. Why not just sell them in the cash shop directly for cash at a competitive value? Give ANet more money, stop people from buying gold from third party sites, and make players with more money than time happy.
I’m not economy specialist (not even close) but if Anet was selling Legendary weapons and Precursors at the cash shop, wouldn’t they dictate the price then? All the ones at TP would have to adjust their prices to reflect this being sold in CS.
Free economy?
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Yeah. Mods are handing out infractions like candies! And the super-mods (don’t know how they call people who oversee mod’s work) aren’t responding to emails raising the question of mod’s work.
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If ANet just sold nice weapon skins and armor skins (did not have to be Precursors or Legendaries) I would be extactic. Personally I do not like the Legendaries, I love a few of the precursor skins though.
I’m all for this! If you ask me I think there should be lots and lots of skins in the cash shop. But unique ones, that can’t otherwise be found in the game.
And yes, I see GW2 going the way of gear treadmills, which is why selling skins, even those of Precursors and Legendaries makes sense. These items have no direct effect on combat and little effect on the games economy if they are account bound (considering that ANet wants Precursors and Legendaries to be easier to obtain).
And if people still want to be elitist in game, they can do so by grinding out gear for stats endlessly.
Unfortunately, I agree with you. That’s the way this game has taken.
There would be no grinding for stats without this latest patch. Just grinding for the Legendary skin if you want it. And that’s the whole point IMO. The latest patch just divides the community, through elitism.
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Sweet! I like how people justify pay 2 win options. It’s rather interesting.
So, while at it, why not add legendary to the cash shop? You are still effectively buying it from the cash shop with buying gems?
The way this game and it’s users are headed it will be the fail MMO of the year.
Pay to win? Precursors and Legendaries have no more power than an exotic which in game can run 5-10 gold. This is far from pay to win when you are paying for basically a skin.
If you want real pay to win, check out some of the Asian or European MMOs which sell weapons and armor (and even skills) which are better than anything you can obtain in game.
But why make it complicated by adding precursors, then mats, then exos…? Why not directly add legendary weaps to the cash shop?
Actually I fully expect Precursors Weapons and Legendary skins to be sold on the cash shop when a set set of Precursors and Legendaries rolls out.
I also expect a lot of new armor skins to be released in the cash shop as well.
Why? Because people like me will easily drop 1-2k a year on a game they enjoy playing. And guess what, these skins have absolutely no negative effect on your game other than the jealously you will not or can not afford them.
That same jealously conversely exists in players like me, those that have more money than time and would like to enjoy an aspect of the game without going to a third party site for gold.
So you’re basically telling me that elitist mentality, or should I say WoW mentality, should be supported and rewarded?
I’m all in for selling skins in the cash shop. Heck, I even purred money into cash shop for skins. That’s not the issue. I also think the devs should be supported by paying them money. I would be more than glad to pay subs if they asked. But not with all this kitten going around.
I don’t want to e-pe*n with you or anyone else. I don’t care. But apparently that’s what you want. Enjoying aspect of the game? What aspect? Buying the ultimate skin from the cash shop? I don’t want next time I login someone to start e-pe*ning with me. That’s why I ran from other games.
The issue is that you shouldn’t have the option to buy high-end gear from the cash shop, be it cosmetics or stats. And if you are in for selling Legendary, why not sell Ascended too? But seeing people actually wanting gear-treadmills, gear scores, raids and p2w options, Anet might as well give them to you.
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Sweet! I like how people justify pay 2 win options. It’s rather interesting.
So, while at it, why not add legendary to the cash shop? You are still effectively buying it from the cash shop with buying gems?
The way this game and it’s users are headed it will be the fail MMO of the year.
Pay to win? Precursors and Legendaries have no more power than an exotic which in game can run 5-10 gold. This is far from pay to win when you are paying for basically a skin.
If you want real pay to win, check out some of the Asian or European MMOs which sell weapons and armor (and even skills) which are better than anything you can obtain in game.
But why make it complicated by adding precursors, then mats, then exos…? Why not directly add legendary weaps to the cash shop?
This world needs more people being frank and less people being offended.
Sweet! I like how people justify pay 2 win options. It’s rather interesting.
So, while at it, why not add legendary to the cash shop? You are still effectively buying it from the cash shop with buying gems?
The way this game and it’s users are headed it will be the fail MMO of the year.
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How do you know this? I would love if people actually were backing up their claims with some kind of evidence. Not even hard evidence. Anything would suffice, just as long it’s not completely made up.
We don’t know if forum people are a minority or a majority.
So please stop quoting this as a hard fact.
This thread has about 100k posts. GW2 sold over 2 million copies.
Even if every single post was a unique person which it’s not even close to being. We need ALOT more posts.
More like 10304 with your post.
I’m against this ascended move, but there is no reason to lie or exagerate.
My bad, typo,
People didn’t believe that forum posters are a minority and wanted some hard proof, Had nothing to do with ascended gear.
You have equally as little proof that the happy players are the majority. I am in a guild full of dissatisfied players; and over half of them have filed for refunds. They don’t post on forums here simply because they don’t have time to burn.
I don’t even know what were are talking about now??
I am not talking about happy or sad. Just how many people post vs how many people play which you seem to agree with.
Saying our last line talks about how most of your guild doesn’t post on the forums
And again you don’t know that for a fact. You don’t know how many left in pre-ascended time, how many left because ascended were introduced, how many left because of this new one-time-huge-thing-event and how many aren’t posting at all.
So again. We don’t know who’s in minority or in majority. There are no facts on this. Only plain speculations.
Edit: I’m not saying I’m in majority here, I’m saying we don’t know.
Yes we do.
2 million vs 10 thousand if every posters was unique (which it’s not)
keep cutting it in 1/2
1 million
500k
250k
125k
62.5k
32.25k
You have to cut the population in 1/2 7 times to even get close to 10k being the majority. If things are this bad in 2 months, Your DAM right then better start making major changes.
It’s funny how you make up math that means nothing. You are so stubborn in saying you know exactly who’s who without any valid fact or proof except for made-up numbers you throw out. Sorry but that’s not proof from my point of view.
WoW, That is just sad.
Look at this thread. 10k posts.
For that to be the majority. That means this game went from 2 million users which is a number of units sold that this game reached to less then 20k users in 2 months.
If that is the case they should just turn the servers off because this game is done.
I can make up numbers as well. Here we go…
- What if 80% of the current GW2 population (the active ones) isn’t commenting at all on the forums. For those 80% you have absolutely no clue how they feel. Whether they are for or against the new changes or just don’t care.
- 20% would be on the forums (including you and me).
- Now, 70% of the forum posters (those 20%) are against these game changes.
So how can you tell how’s minority from reading the forum, when you absolutely got no clue how those 80% feel towards the question at hand?
Disclaimer: These numbers are completely made up just to prove that making numbers up mean nothing.
Because even your fake numbers have 80% of the population not posting on the forums. Which still makes forum posters the minority.
It has nothing to do with who is happy or sad, We were never talking about that.
Oh so it’s just the matter how much % of population post on the forums and how much don’t come close to it.
Oh, I see. Sorry then. I misunderstood the question.
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How do you know this? I would love if people actually were backing up their claims with some kind of evidence. Not even hard evidence. Anything would suffice, just as long it’s not completely made up.
We don’t know if forum people are a minority or a majority.
So please stop quoting this as a hard fact.
This thread has about 100k posts. GW2 sold over 2 million copies.
Even if every single post was a unique person which it’s not even close to being. We need ALOT more posts.
More like 10304 with your post.
I’m against this ascended move, but there is no reason to lie or exagerate.
My bad, typo,
People didn’t believe that forum posters are a minority and wanted some hard proof, Had nothing to do with ascended gear.
You have equally as little proof that the happy players are the majority. I am in a guild full of dissatisfied players; and over half of them have filed for refunds. They don’t post on forums here simply because they don’t have time to burn.
I don’t even know what were are talking about now??
I am not talking about happy or sad. Just how many people post vs how many people play which you seem to agree with.
Saying our last line talks about how most of your guild doesn’t post on the forums
And again you don’t know that for a fact. You don’t know how many left in pre-ascended time, how many left because ascended were introduced, how many left because of this new one-time-huge-thing-event and how many aren’t posting at all.
So again. We don’t know who’s in minority or in majority. There are no facts on this. Only plain speculations.
Edit: I’m not saying I’m in majority here, I’m saying we don’t know.
Yes we do.
2 million vs 10 thousand if every posters was unique (which it’s not)
keep cutting it in 1/2
1 million
500k
250k
125k
62.5k
32.25k
You have to cut the population in 1/2 7 times to even get close to 10k being the majority. If things are this bad in 2 months, Your DAM right then better start making major changes.
It’s funny how you make up math that means nothing. You are so stubborn in saying you know exactly who’s who without any valid fact or proof except for made-up numbers you throw out. Sorry but that’s not proof from my point of view.
WoW, That is just sad.
Look at this thread. 10k posts.
For that to be the majority. That means this game went from 2 million users which is a number of units sold that this game reached to less then 20k users in 2 months.
If that is the case they should just turn the servers off because this game is done.
I can make up numbers as well. Here we go…
- What if 80% of the current GW2 population (the active ones) isn’t commenting at all on the forums. For those 80% you have absolutely no clue how they feel. Whether they are for or against the new changes or just don’t care.
- 20% would be on the forums (including you and me).
- Now, 70% of the forum posters (those 20%) are against these game changes.
So how can you tell how’s minority from reading the forum, when you absolutely got no clue how those 80% feel towards the question at hand?
Disclaimer: These numbers are completely made up just to prove that making numbers up mean nothing.
This world needs more people being frank and less people being offended.
How do you know this? I would love if people actually were backing up their claims with some kind of evidence. Not even hard evidence. Anything would suffice, just as long it’s not completely made up.
We don’t know if forum people are a minority or a majority.
So please stop quoting this as a hard fact.
This thread has about 100k posts. GW2 sold over 2 million copies.
Even if every single post was a unique person which it’s not even close to being. We need ALOT more posts.
More like 10304 with your post.
I’m against this ascended move, but there is no reason to lie or exagerate.
My bad, typo,
People didn’t believe that forum posters are a minority and wanted some hard proof, Had nothing to do with ascended gear.
You have equally as little proof that the happy players are the majority. I am in a guild full of dissatisfied players; and over half of them have filed for refunds. They don’t post on forums here simply because they don’t have time to burn.
I don’t even know what were are talking about now??
I am not talking about happy or sad. Just how many people post vs how many people play which you seem to agree with.
Saying our last line talks about how most of your guild doesn’t post on the forums
And again you don’t know that for a fact. You don’t know how many left in pre-ascended time, how many left because ascended were introduced, how many left because of this new one-time-huge-thing-event and how many aren’t posting at all.
So again. We don’t know who’s in minority or in majority. There are no facts on this. Only plain speculations.
Edit: I’m not saying I’m in majority here, I’m saying we don’t know.
Yes we do.
2 million vs 10 thousand if every posters was unique (which it’s not)
keep cutting it in 1/2
1 million
500k
250k
125k
62.5k
32.25k
You have to cut the population in 1/2 7 times to even get close to 10k being the majority. If things are this bad in 2 months, Your DAM right then better start making major changes.
It’s funny how you make up math that means nothing. You are so stubborn in saying you know exactly who’s who without any valid fact or proof except for made-up numbers you throw out. Sorry but that’s not proof from my point of view.
This world needs more people being frank and less people being offended.
How do you know this? I would love if people actually were backing up their claims with some kind of evidence. Not even hard evidence. Anything would suffice, just as long it’s not completely made up.
We don’t know if forum people are a minority or a majority.
So please stop quoting this as a hard fact.
This thread has about 100k posts. GW2 sold over 2 million copies.
Even if every single post was a unique person which it’s not even close to being. We need ALOT more posts.
More like 10304 with your post.
I’m against this ascended move, but there is no reason to lie or exagerate.
My bad, typo,
People didn’t believe that forum posters are a minority and wanted some hard proof, Had nothing to do with ascended gear.
You have equally as little proof that the happy players are the majority. I am in a guild full of dissatisfied players; and over half of them have filed for refunds. They don’t post on forums here simply because they don’t have time to burn.
I don’t even know what were are talking about now??
I am not talking about happy or sad. Just how many people post vs how many people play which you seem to agree with.
Saying our last line talks about how most of your guild doesn’t post on the forums
And again you don’t know that for a fact. You don’t know how many left in pre-ascended time, how many left because ascended were introduced, how many left because of this new one-time-huge-thing-event and how many aren’t posting at all.
So again. We don’t know who’s in minority or in majority. There are no facts on this. Only plain speculations.
Edit: I’m not saying I’m in majority here, I’m saying we don’t know.
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i want a gear progression in endgame because there’s nothing else to do, and honestly, if you find this “gear grind” hard then you would die in almost every other MMO out there.
This game has been made without an end-game. The whole game is an end-game. Remember that? And there is plenty to do in this game.
And no, I won’t nor I did die in other MMO I played, but I came to this game so that I don’t need to grind, and so that I could have rest from all the kittening people in other games. Guess I was wrong. DPS and Gear meter thread. Check it out.
my point is that you target a slight gear grind and ignore everything else they added in the patch.
as for the whole game being endgame… idk how you can say that. i have 2 80s, i’ve got 100% map, i’ve done all the WvWvW i care to do, i’ve done almost all the dungeons i care to do.
what’s left to keep me coming back? I get full exotics, but then i wonder why i even need these exotics. what do you do with them? there’s no content to use the exotics in beyond pvp and dungeons.
I haven’t ignore it. I even said a few times that all the other content looks fun. Just not the gear treadmill.
You obviously don’t remember how this game was marketed. I would post you a link to these PR talks, but I would get infracted so I’ll skip that.
And you’re telling me you don’t like sPVP, www nor PvE in this game? So why are you playing it then? If you want to grind go make yourself a Legendary. Go grind other dungeons. Go grind Orr for mats. There is no need to stat increase, because the new dungeon isn’t getting harder because of this.
I don’t target “slight” gear grind. I target gear grind in a game that was promised not to have gear grind. No carrot to chase and to play for fun. e-pe*ning isn’t fun. Well, it’s not fun to me at least.
This world needs more people being frank and less people being offended.
i want a gear progression in endgame because there’s nothing else to do, and honestly, if you find this “gear grind” hard then you would die in almost every other MMO out there.
This game has been made without an end-game. The whole game is an end-game. Remember that? And there is plenty to do in this game.
And no, I won’t nor I did die in other MMO I played, but I came to this game so that I don’t need to grind, and so that I could have rest from all the kittening people in other games. Guess I was wrong. DPS and Gear meter thread. Check it out.
This world needs more people being frank and less people being offended.
How do you know this? I would love if people actually were backing up their claims with some kind of evidence. Not even hard evidence. Anything would suffice, just as long it’s not completely made up.
We don’t know if forum people are a minority or a majority.
So please stop quoting this as a hard fact.
This world needs more people being frank and less people being offended.
But i bet you and all other whiners still play, but just keep whining. Start thank the developers for a good game. Sure theres alot of improvments needed, but all this whining about this ascended gears, manifestos, “lies” and what not makes you look stupid.
This whiner hasn’t logged in for a week now. So don’t bet on something you can’t win, boy . I come to the forums and I’m here to stay. So deal with it, boy .
This world needs more people being frank and less people being offended.
/Such high hopes, but yet heres another developer on their high horse thinking they know whats better than a 10,000 post thread telling them they dont like the new changes in this weekend’s patch. I am insulted that we only received one response to it.
Oh? Have I missed any responses? Can you please share a link to it? Thanks!
This world needs more people being frank and less people being offended.
