Guild Wars 2

shiri.4257:

If you were following [VII] last night, then sorry about the map hopping. we have minimal scouts and when one of our reliable scouts recall us to X BL because there’s a zerg on a t3 keep/smc. CD teamspeak was funky last night too and we had to use a friend’s ts.

Leaving the BL info in a squad or map chat is a concern for us. But the priority for us to respond is to get our people into the BL as fast as possible on those recalls. I believe many of the guild groups will try to leave info in squad/team/mapchat but the primary concern is to get the core 15-20 of their comp in first and ready to fight. An example of those situations would be Bay and SMC late NA last night.

Ya I get that.. people concerned about spies… that could very well be ‘trusted’ people in your TS as well believe it or not. IMHO I don’t think it’s much of an exposure to drop a link in Squad chat but I’m not criticizing it. If that’s what makes you feel more comfortable then it’s all good. Next time I am on and feeling like joining a group I will make sure I get myself into TS.

In game you will see one of my two mains: Tim Is On Your Side (Backline Ranger) or Dàrk Side Of Tim (Frontline Guard) – Enemies will see Gold Vet Guard and go… ooo dinner

Josh XT.6053:

So you can assume when I need all big damage out in one area right? See that is the other thing, you might drop your big cooldowns that I need at a specific time at different times.

Hands down, the best way to be the most organized and best coordinated is being on teamspeak. You can try to argue with me about it all day but I’m telling you that you are incorrect for sure. Being on Teamspeak is a must for organized battle, if you’re not on TS, you’re most likely not being very helpful in the fights because you’re unaware of when things are being called out.

Nope, can’t assume to know that for sure. Just anticipating the movements… BUT… I’ve run with commanders (and commanded enough) to be able to figure out not too badly when they are calling for ‘BOMBS ON ME’. I’m not a healer so I would be no help there either way… (well, unless I’m running guard for support.. in which case I would make a hard effort to be in TS big time)… I run Ranger for backline support when I’m not frontlining so following the movements etc is not too hard for me to do. But like I said, if I want to run frontline at all then I make it a point to try to get into the TS that’s being used (if they share it, which it seems people have done here and in my email now), and give the best support I can..

Would be interesting, after all the yelling about not being able to transfer, to see how many people actually do transfer. Of course ‘we’ won’t know it really but ANet will.

hmmm…. yes the pugs that might not understand the nuances of a field battle… and there are some here and there for sure. For me right now especially I have fairly good success following any commander into battle and figuring out what he might be doing by watching the tag on the minimap while obviously watching what’s in front of me… oh that’s tricky for an old guy but I manage it most of the time. The time that I get “lost” of course is when they suddenly port out with no posts in any chat window including Squad chat. Then I have to hilight the squad leader in the list and see where he/she went. If on the same map that’s easy. If they swap bl’s then it’s a matter of finding where they went. But at that point I often turn from zergling back to roamer… It’s all fun.

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

Balthazzarr.1349:

Drop a stealth trap… right… it takes 5 seconds to drop one. So as he is stealthing he’s watching you lay the “trap”. You can stand there and try to lure the guy to it.. or he just stays away and ranges you and tries to lure you away. Stealth traps are great I guess if the person doesn’t see you put it down and runs over it. Greater if you have a few people that put some down. But just putting one down and expecting the guy to run close enough to it to be unstealthed? If he’s good that’s not likely… otherwise you have a chance.

I don’t know what people are doing when I place these things mid-fight but in my experience, they trip them about 75% of the time.

It’s like they think if they dodge just right they’ll be immune to it or something, I don’t know what they think. All I know is that as long as I have enough health to tank a few hits I’ll start setting one down and most of the time they’ll trip it as long as I stay close to it.

The odd time they’re smart enough to avoid it, they just run away completely. So either they forfeit and run or they trip it and die. Win/win.

ahh.. that’s funny… I mean really you would think that they would know that if they didn’t down you in a couple seconds they would be revealed.. maybe I’ll carry a few traps with me on my next roaming run just in case…

Pelto.9364:

People, like refered above, qq for reason. I see how thieves take down in split second while players cannot even dodge (daze?). I see how 5+ man blob chases 1 thief for minutes.

At least, I want longer fights because I want learn to play – nothing to learn if I just have to use wp and run back. I don’t want waste playtime for chasing thieves or mesmers.

The game is rated 12+. Is WvW good place for a child to play? Specially if adults qq that much. Or if our skilled adult players go down in two seconds. For children (and for average adult players), should WvW have “easy” play mode – e.g., more built-in toughness/vitality, reduced interrupt cooldowns, etc – for example.

lol… all I can say is that most children are better at these games than us so called adults are…

Drop a stealth trap… right… it takes 5 seconds to drop one. So as he is stealthing he’s watching you lay the “trap”. You can stand there and try to lure the guy to it.. or he just stays away and ranges you and tries to lure you away. Stealth traps are great I guess if the person doesn’t see you put it down and runs over it. Greater if you have a few people that put some down. But just putting one down and expecting the guy to run close enough to it to be unstealthed? If he’s good that’s not likely… otherwise you have a chance.

Lol. We will be split up long before any climb happens.

yep it’s kind of rough alright. Funny at times because people don’t seem to want a tag on the map a lot of the time. We had to many people running around our bl for a while tonight and no tag.. somehow things got defended, and a tagged group even came in to help with bay when SF broke through. Most of the time in there it just seems very odd. Running around, “chatting” with pretty much low to no response unless your friends are online. Seems to be just enough people here and there to give intel when something is going on though. lol, I can’t say I like it or don’t like it… but I do like the action and we have lots of that. I’ve been offered a couple TS connections now so I may take them up on it if I manage to get running with a group of CD or Kain.. I already know the ET folks!

Yes Sylvyn that’s very true.. I’ve been in such raids so I understand that dynamic and they are usually closed to self invitation. The other ones (like what I encountered last night) had multiple guilds (pugs) in them and though I didn’t think to check I suspect they were probably all in the same server, or mostly. It’s all good… I don’t begrudge people that do their thing.. It was just something I had been wondering about, and what other people experienced/though.

ha somehow I missed it in that thread…

Having said that, it’s definitely a pain when you think of it. I mean at the end of the day I could possibly be verified on 24 different Team Speak servers… Talk about the awesome spy possibilities! lol .. so it’s not surprising that some people don’t even want to post their TS channels anymore. I mean, I’m already verified on 8 different TS servers… I don’t use any except what a commander is using, but the exposure is obviously there for abuse by people that like to do that.. so as I said above.. I get it if people don’t want to share with the linked servers.. :P

Not sure where to post this but seems like this is as good a place as any.

So we are linked with 3 other servers. I see commanders running the BL’s and not typing in the message box so they are definitely in TS. Three times now I have asked for the TS channel and received zero responses. Joining the squad isn’t much use when 99% of the communication is in TS. In EB I tried to join a squad that was closed so couldn’t of course. Joined the other squad and asked a couple times what TS they were using with no response…. So I have to ask.. is it because I’m not in the ‘right’ server that no response is coming? or is it just bad luck last night? Sadly it seems like the groups are staying tight to their server lines for the most part. So I roamed a lot… then I saw messages complaining that people were roaming and should be on tag… chuckle ah what do you do? I continued to roam of course..

Leaa.2943:

morrolan.9608:

Leaa.2943:

Both options are kitten. If one home border is the desert border it means that one server will have a very kittenty 3 months and their rank can even be effected by it.

If we have desert borders for 3 whole kitten months is just gonna make people stop playing during those 3 months and many might drop and not come back when alpine is back again.

I still can not for the love of god understand why it is not obvious that the alpine border is working as intended? Why do we have to be forced to go through this whole thing again where pop drops and why do you even think wvw will survive this? It have been tried already.

Desert border is not what the majority want. Your voting was so wrongly made, and you should just have put up vote either desert or alpine. Period.

Why 1 or the other? That would not be smart and simultaneous provides the options for both anyway. The previous poll was fine. As for population dropping, vote for the simultaneous option that was everyone gets what they want.

Because it is a punishment to get the desert border and the server that has to play it for 3 months will have a empty border, whilst those with alpine wont.
This has nothing to do with rewardtracks, we already showed very clearly when DB came out that we do not like the map because it offers no tactics, it is only a empty huge map with towers and keeps that have no synergy and noone could care less if they loose anything. Not to mention we have no waypoints to use except for two in the north IF we own rampart.

When DB came out the veterans of wvw piled up on EB. They did this for a reason, they hated the DB map. People said, oh well tough luck, the new players will take over, but as we knew they wouldn’t because to be very frank here, they do not have the knowledge and noone wants to follow a commander that know nothing about what he is doing and wiping his group over and over or turning the map in to a pvd train. That is not wvw to anyone. So the border went empty. And the ques to EB was huge. Because veterans that did not leave the game went there, and the other players that was suppose to build up the new wvw, went to EB because there is were the fights were, and this is also were the reward track will even be a disadvantage to those that have the DB map. If the tracks was what brought it back ,then players goes were the rewards are.

So again DB maps will hurt wvw once again. But this time i don’t think it will survive. It barely did the last time. And 3 months is a looooong time in WvW. Rememeber golem week? Was ONE week, and that is the second thing in wvw history that hurt it badly. Now 3 months…..

The DBL’s don’t work like they used to. MUCH easier to get around in them… no barricades. The WP’s work exactly like they do in Alpine now. If you own it (even all three keeps) and the upgrades are there then you have all three wp’s available to you.

In the last few weeks before Alpine came back there was a lot more activity in the DBL’s. At least on the FA/BP linking there was. We had people running through DBL’s a lot from all sides and some decent fights along the way even with the rolly landscape. Having all WP’s available was very helpful and so on and so on.

When the DBL comes back to a server near you please try it out objectively. You might find it’s not the devils playground it first was…

back to the subject line… the disparity in the scores continues to explode…. All of this doesn’t make a lot of sense to me since in the next round the linked servers will likely be tossed around again. How in the heck can you determine any server’s actual tier level when they will never be guaranteed to have the same groups in the next term? Or is it just that each term everything gets switched around regardless of the so called ratings since at the end of the day they don’t even have validity.

The scoring, the ranking, etc… none of it really makes sense to me in an environment where servers get swapped around. As I have said before, I don’t give a rats butt about the score anymore. The only thing that matters these days is having some good encounters with the enemy, win or lose.

Elementalist Owner.7802:

Idk why people are voting for simultaneous borderlands. One server having a different BL might not be fair. Not to mention, it doesn’t make sense having mixed borderlands unless all three maps are different. Now that would be a cool idea.

I think part of the reason is because it’s quarterly rotation, when it should rotate every week to keep things fresh. A quarter is just too long.

As I told my kids as they were growing up. Life is NOT fair and never will be. If it was the same server getting the same BL everytime then that would just be wrong.. but it won’t be that way. Would love to have 3 different BL’s… but since we only have a choice between the same one everywhere and 2 +1 different then I like the idea of one different over all the same.. just my opinion of course

Depraved Ambience.7942:

Calliope.8675:

Perhaps, as a guild hall upgrade, they could add all of the crafting stations to the market or the side of it. At least then people would have easy access to crafting stations from anywhere in the PvE map without cluttering the WvW maps (if that’s what wvwers are really afraid of).

ANet said that they were not going to put crafting stations in guild halls so that people wouldn’t basically become hermits. They are not putting them in guild halls so that players have to go to cities and “be” social.

oh good lord.. roflmao… like people crafting are being social. If that’s true then they really really are not thinking well. Make the halls a place to go that have all the stuff you need. Make them upgrades of course.. it’s not that big a thought ANet.. I’m not anti-social but having a spot IN my hall for my guild members to gather and craft etc makes sense. The thought that I might interact with other people I don’t know when I’m at a general crafting station makes me laugh. It doesn’t happen.. with the rare possibility of rp’ers that are looking for chat.. :P

Nidome.1365:

So if I run out of food/sharpening stones/oils and wish to craft some more or I wish to access the materials in my personal bank I have to leave home border and re-queue.

If someone calls out in map chat that they need help defending something while I am crafting I won’t see it any more because I won’t be crafting on home border.

Why?

I have seen plenty of complaints in WvW, but the presence of crafting stations wasn’t one of them.

Kind of makes me chuckle. At best I’ve seen maybe 3 or 4 people actually crafting at any one time at Citadel.. and that’s VERY RARELY. But… I do see people standing around spawn at EB quite a bit, not crafting, just standing there doing, who knows what? Probably getting the reward tracks built up? Not sure really. I never used the stations in WvW but I never saw a problem with them. They definitely do NOT cause any sort of issue with queuing.

However, after being in an EB queue for 20 minutes then finally getting in and seeing 10+ people just standing around spawn is disheartening at best…

All polls are a “risk”. You set the parameters and hope for the best. It’s the nature of things. Hopefully this one will continue the way it is and all this debate will be moot… and I will get to enjoy at least one DBL to wreak havoc on…. and they still need to flatten out the center of it!

Still confuses me what all the discontent is with the DBL’s. “Most” of the people actually want them around according to the polls and most stuff I’m reading. Most of the issues with the DBL’s had been addressed and made them much easier to get around in. They are different and fun, imo. I still think the center of the DBL should be flattened out so it can be used as a battle ground.. THAT would be great!

Johje Holan.4607:

Sarrs.4831:

Johje Holan.4607:

Anet, there is no reason this poll should have a 75% supermajority requirement to make it 2ABL and 1DBL. Its clearly what most people want.

This assertion is self-contradictory. If most people want it, then it should have no trouble achieving the supermajority put forward. Which it has.

Its not contradictory. Most does not mean >75%.

If most of the people vote for simultaneous borders but only get to 73% then the vote fails and we are stuck with a result that a large majority did not want.

And it has not achieved it yet, the vote is not over. If it does end with over 75% then Anet got lucky. There is no reason to leave the fate of WvW to getting lucky.

Most doesn’t mean 75% of course. But ANet obviously wanted to choose a number as a bench mark. Could have been 60% 65% etc.. but they chose 75%. Trying to say that it doesn’t mean anymore than 73% is irrelevant since the chosen target was 75%… simple… not even debatable.. simply the number they chose.. get it??

Kylden Ar.3724:

Teon.5168:

Balthazzarr.1349:

@Teon: Kaineng… until now you have always been the enemy! haa… Except for the people I know in game I have no idea who is on what server when I’m in there. Just running around looking for groups and fights.. and yes, there’s lots of action. Seriously all this talk about 1st, 2nd, 3rd… really? Do people really care? I don’t.. I just wanna find people to stomp…. and sadly, be stomped by of course! :P

Aye, it is odd to be linked with some of our old enemies……and yea, I don’t really care much about the score, either……it certainly doesn’t mean anything. My time in EB last night was just hilarious…..stomping and getting stomped galore!!!!

And very few T1 sized blobs. That was really nice.

It was glorious!

It’s an interesting situation, that is for sure.

Stay off the beaten path, and you can roam and havoc. Stay near towers and keeps and you get your zerg fights.

Thing is, with 4 servers our coverage is even better than I saw while we were with TC. I can be roaming and get in a 1v1 fight, and end up getting support (like, +2 to +4) I didn’t even ask for just because they saw my dot on the map moving funny and came running to the fight.

Unless people are coming to help because my server rep went up and no one told me, but I doubt that. People barely even know that TACO is out there most times with these numbers unlike before.

Balthazzarr.1349:

Ah well. You guys have stomped me enough times it should have brought your count up more!! ????

Are you playing a Revenant that wanders the south CD borderland, cause the other day I killed the same poor Revenant about 6 times in a row down there…. I felt bad, the 7th time I spotted him I left him alone and looked for someone new. Found a theif that we played ‘dash and duel’ for about 7 minutes. Then I got help I didn’t ask for and the fun ended…

lolol… Well one of my classes is a Rev but if there’s one thing I definitely won’t do and that’s come back for a 3rd time to get pounded, let alone 6! I could be “that” Ranger, or Guardian, or Rev, or Necro… then again I could be the really baaad Ele or Thief.. haa..
I main Ranger because I just like it best. I use Guard if I am leading a group for a little better support. I’m not a great 1v1 fighter but I won’t shy from a fight… win or lose.. it’s fun! If you see a Gold Veteran Sylvari Ranger it’s most likely me… but you won’t often see my back unless I’m repositioning to try not to die..

Rastaaa.3752:

Balthazzarr.1349:

4days \= overnight

To achieve a 60K lead in four days you would have to have some sort of consistent lead from the beginnning. If you do basic math, that would mean an increase of 15K per day since reset happened. The week is like 60% done and the match was decided on
the second or third day.

Ah well. You guys have stomped me enough times it should have brought your count up more!! ????

@Rastaaa: 4days \= overnight

@Teon: Kaineng… until now you have always been the enemy! haa… Except for the people I know in game I have no idea who is on what server when I’m in there. Just running around looking for groups and fights.. and yes, there’s lots of action. Seriously all this talk about 1st, 2nd, 3rd… really? Do people really care? I don’t.. I just wanna find people to stomp…. and sadly, be stomped by of course! :P

Ah yes. I see that now. Nice for the guilds that have just started ????

Too late for me. I spent tons of time and real money getting my mostly three active people guild to lvl 59. I missed something. What is this change?

Because some of the guilds are ocx and not na.

hmm…. I can’t remember the last time I even looked at the score with any sort of caring. Yes I see that the CD linked group is winning.. how about that… meh.. I’m in BP and I don’t give a rats !@#$ about the score, ppt, etc.. What I care about, and always have, is finding some fun to have. I led a small group around last night for an hour or so defending our BL. We have some fun because there were a few other small groups running around. Sure the blobs pound the heck out of EB (boorrrinnnggg) but I’ll stick with the BL’s and find little or big fights where I can. I mean really what do you get from winning the week? NOTHING! If you are the host server then I guess you could take bragging rights because you think that since you are the biggest server you are the best. At the end of the day if that’s all you’re there for then zzzzzzzzzz…. I am so used to playing outnumbered almost all the time that I don’t even see the issue. It’s not that hard to get a group together (if you know people of course) and have some fun creating havoc, even when the zergs are running around.

The match-up that was created definitely seems not well set up to me but then again I don’t run the programs etc that determine these things. After all is said and done, it doesn’t matter…. just come on out, find the enemy, have some fights, live, die, kill, whatever. Forget the score because really.. it means nothing except a number for them to decide future matchups that more people will complain about.

Come find me… My head is still soft from all the stomps I’ve received… you might get me!!!!

Teon.5168:

XTR.9604:

Calm down, complainers. Take the chance to meet new people and make new friends. I think it is better for every server to make new friends. I do personally miss being linked with FA, but I also haven’t had a chance to meet anyone from CD, ET or Kaineng yet. I’m willing to give them a chance, why not?

I’m on Kaineng, and am definitely with ya on that.

BP here. Having fun so far ????

lil devils x.6071:

Tris Apollumenon.6435:

I haven’t been able to get supply from either home-borderland citadel (my server was a “guest” server in both linkages). Because I only picked up this gamemode in the past week, I just assumed this was normal somehow and that the supply depot in the citadel was some kind of placeholder. So that’s NOT how it’s supposed to be…?

Look on your map and make sure the supply depot in Citadel is the same color as your team color that week. If it is , you should be able to get supply. If it is not, that supply is the color of the team it belongs to, telling you who is winning in EotM.

I still say ‘bull’ on this. I am in BP… when we were linked with FA I couldn’t get sups from Citadel. I actually switched servers to FA and was able to get supplies from Citadel then. When I switched back to BP I was once again unable to get supplies. We were the SAME colour. This doesn’t quite mesh with what some of you are saying.

lil devils x.6071:

Balthazzarr.1349:

I go in for a bit of fun now. With this most recent re-linking there really is ZERO ownership for me in the borderlands. Since I am on a “slave” server I can’t even get supplies from Citadel!

So I will just go in with my friends and have what fun I can have when I do… that’s really all that’s left now that I have no home server to fight for. :P

Are you sure you cannot get supply? The only time you should not be able to get supply from CiItadel is if it is a different team color, meaning that it isn’t actually your supply. If your EotM team is winning you should be able to get it. Make sure the supply is the same color as your team.

Unless ANet changed something, the supply in Citadel is owned by the owner of the BL. All of us linked servers don’t own any Borderland, and hence no Citadel. The colour doesn’t matter, it’s the ownership of Citadel that matters. Even though it’s my “home” base in the BL it doesn’t mean my server owns the supplies, because it doesn’t… (like I said, unless ANet changed it in the last couple of days.)

As for team colours… of course we are the same colour as the server we are linked to… we couldn’t get into the Citadel otherwise.. :P

Teon.5168:

lil devils x.6071:

Balthazzarr.1349:

So we went to the FA Host at the beginning of this all. Immediately people were recognizing the ‘new’ people and welcoming us big time. I met new people, made new friends and fighting buddies and so on. Cool right? Now we’re off to another Host… but now it’s 4 servers in one. So far I see groups running separately, (calling for help when needed etc of course, but separate). So far as I’ve tried to communicate with these new people I have heard mostly… …. … So it should be interesting to see how the next while plays out. At this point it looks like most of my WvW runs, when I do them, will be mainly with my guild group since I see so many smaller factions staying mostly to themselves. Yes it’s very early in the new link-up so I hope something changes.

The problem with linking lower tier servers together vs being linked with a higher tier server is often the players that wanted a higher level of communication and organization already left the lower tier servers in search of that a long time ago and are consolidated at higher tiers. So even if you get sheer " numbers" from linking, you will not have the unity and enhanced game play that comes with the higher level organization.

Yea, because we all know that the higher tiers have much more skilled and organized wvw players.

“Unity and enhanced game play”???? I think you’re actually serious…….

/facepalm

I think you missed his point regarding the “higher level of communication”. I understand what he’s saying and don’t take offense to it. Having played mostly on low tier server for the last few years I CAN say that there is a very good level of communication amongst people for the most part. However, so far with the current grouping of our 4 servers I’m still seeing small factions of people (groups of 10-15) running together on the BL’s. I suppose the blobs are on EB since it’s queued constantly so far. Oh the higher servers you definitely have more people that are used to getting into TS (higher level of communication for sure) and following a commander in big group fights because you really need that quick communication. On the lower tier servers you don’t have TS being used quite as much except for certain guild groups and so on. It’s not a slight against us low tier servers.. it’s just the difference I’ve noted myself.

It should be interesting to see how it works out for us over the next several weeks. I hope there is more synergy than what it has started out and I’m pretty sure there will be. But since we are now totally confirmed that we will most likely be meeting new people every time the re-linking is scheduled there (in my mind) will be much less emphasis on making relationships with other servers and simply running WvW just because we like it. I, for one, don’t look at or care about the score. I go in for a bit of fun now. With this most recent re-linking there really is ZERO ownership for me in the borderlands. Since I am on a “slave” server I can’t even get supplies from Citadel!

So I will just go in with my friends and have what fun I can have when I do… that’s really all that’s left now that I have no home server to fight for. :P

So we went to the FA Host at the beginning of this all. Immediately people were recognizing the ‘new’ people and welcoming us big time. I met new people, made new friends and fighting buddies and so on. Cool right? Now we’re off to another Host… but now it’s 4 servers in one. So far I see groups running separately, (calling for help when needed etc of course, but separate). So far as I’ve tried to communicate with these new people I have heard mostly… …. … So it should be interesting to see how the next while plays out. At this point it looks like most of my WvW runs, when I do them, will be mainly with my guild group since I see so many smaller factions staying mostly to themselves. Yes it’s very early in the new link-up so I hope something changes.

This is a super rare moment for me as well.. First time is such a long time I encountered lag in this game at all that I thought my machine had a problem for a minute. Now I see it was just server issues… considering they died at least twice during reset…

Thelgar.7214:

XTR.9604:

lol i miss being paired with FA already.

You guys were great to be paired with, when everyone on FA realized we weren’t paired with you guys TS was filled with people talking about how much they’d miss the people on BP. We can only hope we’re as good partners to SoR as you guys were to us.

I hated the linking initially. Then it was so much fun with FA I wanted to stay as it was.. but of course that was fantasy… Hope we can meet up with you guys again! Go FA!

I think I am done with wvw now.

You block them.

Raging is just childish and ignorant.

lol Straegen…

re-linking… well I’m glad I moved to a host server… I have no desire to be moved around… Most people seem to be staying with their “slave” servers (don’t mean that in a negative way), but I moved. I understand that re-linking was/is being done to help balance things out. I don’t like it… and I like it at the same time. … and it will continue to amuse me how many people spit venom and know everything about gaming who don’t actually program games instead of finding ways to help make things better. lol, and how many of them say they are going to other games but continue to rage in here… sigh.. ah well.. XTR.. I will likely see you now and then in FA … kick azz!!!

Yes right at this moment in EB Keep ( FA ) I am unable to get the extra +5… but moving back to our Garri I can get it there… go figure…

@Justine: True

They have been showing up there always. Not sure what makes it news now. ????

I thought that eotm didn’t figure into any WvW rewards anymore…. ???

You know… the big light finally just came on… Yes.. ANet has now made it so that you get rewards for simply being IN WvW… you don’t even have to do anything other than move once in a while to keep from being booted by the timer. omg that is sooooo not well thought out! Getting the goodies via the good ol’ WORK in WvW and NOT time spent makes a lot more sense, prevents abuse, and ensures that the people in WvW are actually doing something useful.

ANet if you are reading this thread… PLEASE reconsider this very poor way of rewarding people for doing nothing.

@Liston: agreed on that point.. if people are indeed standing around spawn causing fighters to not be able to get on then that really is wrong imo.

As far as “server jumping” is concerned… seriously what good does it do to lock everything down… If the collective “we” don’t want little mostly “dead” servers then linking needs to continue ( sadly )… but if people want they can still swap from slave server to slave server anyway and “stack” that way. I like what has been posted in other forums here that suggest locking down the top 2 tiers and leaving the other ones to balance themselves out, if possible. Just a thought..

hmmm…. that would actually help to provide a good measure of what the so called slave servers have become. We might find that some of them have dropped to crappy numbers… orrrr… we might find that some have grown very well and might need to be a host themselves!

Well, I’m not sure about your server but I rarely see people just sitting at our spawn points for long periods of time with the likely intent of boosting their rewards. It’s possible people do it of course but from what I can see it’s in the very small minority at best. Frankly I don’t care if someone is so lazy they want to stand there just for that… At the end of the day, it doesn’t hurt me in any way so power to them.. ugh…

XTR.9604:

Straegen.2938:

A serious problem is that the vast majority of WvW players are fair weather. When their server is doing well, they pour in and blob down the other side. When locked in cage match like T1, it grinds down even the die hard players to the point they just stop engaging or leave the game completely.

This is a fundamental flaw with these style systems and exists in almost every game that has a mode similar to this.

I think T1 is the only people really heavily demoralized. In T2, FA is in 3rd place every week – but we have a blast and tons of good fights every day. I am not demoralized by losing the PPT game, there is no reward for winning PPT, so why should we care? lol.

Exactly right! Since joining FA it’s really been nothing but a lot of fun fighting in both large groups and smaller roaming/havoc groups. It seems there’s always something going on somewhere… (maybe some slow spots here and there when people are sleeping, but not much). I have heard some trash talk about FA here and there and don’t understand it either… The people that I’ve run with in FA have been great to run with. Good commanders, friendly people… very very few trash talking fools… but every server has some.

EremiteAngel.9765:

T1 is the place to be.
Most of the skilled fighters are in Blackgate.

roflmao….