Guild Wars 2

If ANet was to bow to every demand from people about how hard it is to get a kill in this game we would all be frozen on the field while people killed us… and so on. There are abilities, features, etc in this, and any, game for a reason. Make it a challenge! What in the world is the challenge if every time you turn around things are setup exactly as people want?

I mean hey, some people know they can’t kill a thief… why should they have to be frozen there and wait to be killed if they don’t want to. Maybe they’re very new and freaked out.. and so on ….

I’ll fight anyone pretty much anytime even when I know I’m gonna get my butt handed to me… ‘cause sometimes I get lucky… but mostly I’m not as young as I used to be and reactions just aren’t good enough.. but it’s fun. Having said that I’m not about to ask ANet to make adjustments so that I can compete with the younger people. I’ll either win a fight or I won’t… tag a guy so he can’t get away, or he’ll get away.. and so on.. it’s all part of the fun … to me

ahh.. people that say Rangers aren’t useful in a zerg just don’t know how to play Ranger/Druid imo. They can be very useful although not as supportive by any means as Guards etc… One caveat… field fighting is not a place for Rangers or Thiefs… I agree that they really don’t support the team the way it needs to be supported…

but…. When you’re needing some good range and straggler picking the Ranger is great for that. AOE on walls, taking down things at 1500 range etc etc. Frequent enough in a fast moving group that it’s useful.

A havoc team is a better place for a Ranger after all is said and done, and/or roaming.

Thiefs? Well thiefs are good little 1v1 beasts in the roaming world… hiding and hitting from behind before you can fight back and so on. In a group? I love to see them because they drop like flies and nothing makes me happier than pummeling a thief into the ground.

Mirkava.8526:

No man, this is not true
I loved this FA match up for many reasons.
this is the 1st time I see players working together so hard and collaborating so good, to save towers, camps and even sentries on home BL. the 1st time Ive seen players actually sieging and camping camps for Hours and hours.
I so enjoyed roaming facing those servers, because I had a lot of 1v1s, the thing u rarely see with big mindless blobby servers like BG.
our guilds were organised and worked together.
having a 13+ queu on EBG, or one of the BLs most of the time, is not little.
take into consideration a lot of players preparing and farming for the new exp. and many of them just care about having their PIPS bags done, and they leave.

Balthazzarr.1349:

JoEWas.1409:

It is pretty rough working on FA right now, the other servers are pretty much avoiding each other to attack us, seen it happen. They are seldom attacking each others though.

^^ This guy is just raging at the situation.

weird… FA is 2nd in their matchup right now. FA helped CD paper CD’s T3 bay just to take it off of HoD. (I know because I was there). Last night HoD helped fight CD so FA could take SMC… and so on. Lots of double teaming all around from what I can see. Lots of people in FA fighting us during the times that I’m online. We get pounded from both HoD and FA and of course pound them whenever we can.

Just don’t understand the comments… if FA was way down in points in this matchup then it would make sense… but they’re not..

I was one the one who requested to help CD to paper their T3 bay, and what we did is cuting the road for any enemy to enter bay from south and middle side, and we cheered for them at the end and left, 1st because i feel bad for CD in this match up (it wasnt that fair for them), 2nd because they are a friendly server, 3rd because we needed to paper bay, it was a big strategic obstacle for us.
(double teaming, as long as it is not communicated through chats, is fine for me, it is a sort of strategic decisions sometimes you have to use)
Good day

oh hey, I’m not shooting anyone for doing it either. Happens all the time. When you’re on the receiving end it sucks a little… :P But at the end of the day I know so many people from all sides that say the same thing… so it seems pretty “fair” all around

… and thanks! I am linked with CD, and I have an account there so I have lots of friends there.. I’ve also been linked with FA and have run with a bunch of you folks in the past… so we’re all cool, and we’re all pond scum, depending on what side of the weapon you’re on.. hahaaa… either way I’m not totally sure about the rest of the folks but I’m still having fun!

JoEWas.1409:

It is pretty rough working on FA right now, the other servers are pretty much avoiding each other to attack us, seen it happen. They are seldom attacking each others though.

^^ This guy is just raging at the situation.

weird… FA is 2nd in their matchup right now. FA helped CD paper CD’s T3 bay just to take it off of HoD. (I know because I was there). Last night HoD helped fight CD so FA could take SMC… and so on. Lots of double teaming all around from what I can see. Lots of people in FA fighting us during the times that I’m online. We get pounded from both HoD and FA and of course pound them whenever we can.

Just don’t understand the comments… if FA was way down in points in this matchup then it would make sense… but they’re not..

Weird… never had that happen to me. Last night I posted many things in map chat while scouting/defending and never once had a suppression message issue.

FogLeg.9354:

The reason is that linked servers have less players so everyone transfering there is balancing up the WvW.

If it was making a “balance” then relinking would never be necessary. Actually it’s easier now for the bandwagoning guilds to bandwagon more than they used to because a lot of the linked servers are pretty cheap to transfer to. The imbalance continues to happen by the time each relink is ready to happen, which is why we wind up being linked with different hosts from time to time.

Nobody in this game transfers anywhere to help create a balance of any sort other than to either be with friends, or to try to find the fights they seem to want (which are on every server now), or to simply get more apparent wins that really don’t get you anything more than roaming does already, since server wins really mean nothing. Just my opinion of course.

TalleFjanten.7159:

can someone explain why guest servers that are linked with a “full” server are not locked for transfer? it makes no sense, not only do they get a server to handhold them but people can transfer there freely, thank you for the answer

“handhold”? lol, seriously do you think that just because a server has been considered small enough to support another server that it’s behind handheld? Frankly it’s the other way around. Your server is a host and has links because it can’t sustain itself either. Otherwise you would not have a linked server.

We can argue with ANet about this without being nasty to the very people that we try to have fun with in the game.. right?

lolol………….

FogLeg.9354:

IndigoSundown.5419:

The OP’s request is not an ask for a return to the early days, it’s an ask for players who have not spent the cash to unlock the elite specs to be able to avoid competing with players who have.

So, you think OP wants developers to spend considerably long time to create new game mechanics and add new code just so players who have not payed anything for the game could continue to play it for free longer and stay competitive against those players who did pay? And that makes sense how? Wouldn’t adding such option make Anet earn less money after all that work?

Continues to amaze me as well. It’s as if those of us that paid money are getting something for free… ??? Yet those that don’t pay want big changes so they can compete as well, with NO cost to them, but big cost to the company. Just doesn’t make sense to me in any way.

As I like to say… you get what you PAY for.

lol………………..

Red Haired Savage.5430:

Balthazzarr.1349:

but he fried first

No, Han shot first.

lol.. when I said “he fried first”.. that’s what I meant… I didn’t mean he fired first.. :P lol

metabattle is actually a decent place to get initial builds then as you learn to play/fight etc you adjust your build from there. As a beginner you are probably going to want a build that helps you survive and maybe support those around you.

Lots of good suggestions here. To add on to them… A real good way to learn WvW is to have a friend who already plays it. Get him/her to buddy with you and help you understand what’s going on as you go.

Most commanders won’t have the time to explain a lot unless it’s a small group commander. If I’m commanding (Borlis Pass – linked with CD atm)… I typically run small havoc groups and will always say what we’re doing and often offer comments of why we’re doing it, why we’re putting siege “here”, why we’re running like hell.. or fighting to the death.. and so on.

Bottom line… prepare to die a lot, prepare to have fun if you can handle dying a lot

Watch and learn. Good luck, Have fun!

The only thing that stops your story progress is you not doing the story, or starting another story line. You can go to any area you have access to at any time in the game without worrying about losing your story progress. When you go back to it you just pick up where you left off.

SSD’s are so cheap these days you shouldn’t have any problem getting one with lots of space for a good price. Check out the prices online. My 400g SSD cost me $200 Canadian and that was at a local shop. From what I’m seeing online you can get a lot better than that now for the same price

No idea if this has been asked about before. But it would sure be nice if we could populate our guild halls with more than just birds. Fish and land critters would be cool to have.

With all the stuff everywhere about pve wvw pvp.. bambambam… sometimes I just like to roam around my hall and enjoy all the decor that’s there. But it’s missing wildlife other than birds! :P

ya… that’s all true… just sad I didn’t get my anet kill… bahaaaa

So I’m heading to NC in DBL and get there as it flips. I see only one guy there and see the camp get claimed with the ANet flag. An ele runs east from the camp and he’s not repping any guild, nor has an ANet tag above his character. Confusing to me. How did he claim the camp with the ANet banner? Possibly an ANet guy was there and just logged off after the cap. Would be kind of odd but possible I guess.

At any rate, just in case it was an employee I was hoping for the title for the kill. I don’t usually have a lot of success with my ranger against ele’s but this time I won the battle, on the ground both of us, but he fried first. But no special title so assuming he wasn’t an employee… but still wondering how the camp got claimed with that tag from someone who wasn’t tagged as an ANet employee and repping no guild when he left the camp. (I didn’t see if he was repping anyone while up on the platform.)

Just a curiosity

… and sadly toughness means nothing against condi. Even when you hit the “take no damage” skill or utility it doesn’t stop condi. So with these nasty condi builds, unless you have lots of condi clear and can hit it quick.. you’re gonna go down fast when a group hits you.

ugh, frankly it would be nice to have it not be there at all. For new people maybe it might be handy if it was actually used. But for the most part it’s just a spot on the screen that gets in the way for a couple seconds. Not a real big deal.

After all is said and done… if you’re not fully upgraded with your character, geared with all exotic gear (or better) with proper stats and runes, and have the specializations set optimally for what you want, you can’t expect much more than what you’re getting.

Others above have offered advice on how to possibly build your character, but frankly if it’s not leveled up and geared and spec’d out properly you’re just going to die a lot.

I scout quite a bit actually. So far I’ve never seen the need to put so many messages in the box that I get suppressed in map chat. Squad and Team are limitless of course and Team is definitely the one to hit if you have a real emergency with a blob hitting a T3 keep for example.

Other than that I really don’t understand why any scout, or anyone, would need to enter enough messages to have themselves suppressed. You can type quite a bit before having to hit enter so there’s no need for many short messages either..

Just my opinion of course

It’s for the squad… so squad chat sounds like the best place for your reports.

Sounds like a normal reset night to me.

Well although it might seem that any tag is better than no tag it’s not a realistic thought. If you are new and tagged and running with someone who understands how WvW works and is helping you then that’s great since he/she can help you head in the right direction, understand how to read the map, know when and where to place siege, when to fight, when to not fight and so on and so on.

There’s a lot more to commanding in WvW than just having a tag. So much so that many people can actually run tagless in a group because they understand what they need to be doing, and as noted above they will sometimes just “target” their “leader” and run like that. It could be that they’re a guild group, or just a group of friends.

In this day and age of big zergs and blobs a commander will be stained quickly if you don’t know what to do. Sad but true. If/when I tag up it will be to get a havoc group together (not a big zerg/blob), then I will drop tag and we will run as a tagless squad taking towers, camps, and even keeps if we can get away with it.

I’ll never understand why people get nasty to people who are new, but even for us folks that aren’t new these same people still get just as nasty and ignorant. As I like to say, it is what it is. Trolls are everywhere and they think they’re “the best”.

The best thing to do is find a commander in a guild that you know, or make friends with some people that really know WvW and start running with them. Get to know the “lay of the land”. It takes time and if you don’t want to be trolled by people this is the best way to go about it.

Hope you get some help with this and have some fun! ’cause it really is fun if you get with a group of good folks that like helping!

Serenity.6135:

Wouldn’t this just hurt low ranked players, and not affect players who have maxed gliding mastery?

Not sure what this question is for… if it’s for being shot down I’m not sure. I just know that so far when I hit people, especially with my longbow knockback shot, they fall. No exceptions so far.

Overcast.5612:

So gliding in WvW is great. It’s fresh, it’s fun, it really feels like it fits in the game.

I have ONE issue with it however. Since we do have gliding evasion I think my proposal isn’t out of this world and will go over well with anyone who doesn’t like gliding.

When you take damage gliding it should directly affect your gliding endurance.

I say this because, remember when attacking north west tower and backup would come from the defenders citadel and everyone would throw down their statics and wells and wards ect ect. Well that’s completely out the window anymore because they can just glide right on over everyone without a care in the world. This happens in several other places as well most notably the fire keep.

Now….this isn’t a fix all solution but to me it just -makes sense- right now you are limited to cc and I don’t know being shot with a pistol or arrow in mid-flight would probably make me fall.

I don’t believe gliding should be taken out and I don’t think when you are in combat it should be disabled.

Many things in guild wars have been taken right out of PVE content and pushed into WvW content and have been altered to accommodate the game mode. This is not a huge change and is a very reasonable request.

That is all.

I have to tell you that you can’t glide over me without a care in the world. 1500 range with my longbow. Last night at NWT I shot 3 people out of the sky and we finished them off as they hit the ground. Sure people made it through, but no more than would have if they were on the ground most likely. We picked off what we could as they tried to glide over.

Moral of story… gliding doesn’t save you from being shot down!

lol, relinking has been going on for over a year now… where oh where have you been??

Strider Pj.2193:

So.. this isn’t a matchup thread but the ‘BG’ problem one is? I guess re reading the ‘no matchup threads’ post could be helpful.

Right…and it’s the OP himself that raised the so called issue of his linked server apparently sandbagging. How awesome is that? As for the initial subject of this thread… lol, not gonna happen.

Invisible Kittens.6380:

Now that this gliding has been out for a while I can say following things:

The good:
- It’s a lot easier to reach your zerg now. It’s faster, easier and cliffs arent a riddle anymore.

The bad:
- Not everyone has Heart of Thorns. Not everyone can glide. It means, that newer players and people that want to try wvw automatically see the zerg gliding away from them. I don’t think it’s that enjoyable for them.

- The ‘We Run Away From A Fight Aspect’, i think thats self-explanatory. It’s just silly, its so much easier for the enemy team to disengage from a fight now.

- I actually thought it was good that people had to fight their way through the masses of players and go to the portals of their towers. With the gliding, anyone can easily glide into their tower, bunker tons of siege in there and it’s honestly just… kind of annoying to me, I don’t know if others feel like that about it like I do.

I’m sure I’d be able find more stuff, but this was all I could think of right now.

They can disengage from a fight if they’re near a cliff and decide to glide off… but most battles are not fought near any cliffs.. at least not many. In all the battles I’ve been in since gliding in WvW I haven’t yet seen a big fight break up because one side decided to run away and find a cliff to jump off of. You simply can NOT just jump up in the air and glide away/fly. You need something to jump off of. This whole idea of people gliding away from a battle simply does not exist, although seeing a group jump off the cliff by Garri and other places to get away from a blob coming at them is a different story.

Yes we can get into some towers by gliding, if we own the territory close enough to them to do so. That does NOT give any special advantage to extra supplies for siege so I’m not sure what that has to do with being able to bunker down a tower or keep. We could bunker them down before and gliding hasn’t made that easier or harder.

Over all from what I can see on the servers I’m on and the servers we fight, most people are having a lot of fun taking advantage of this new skill. It will easily pass a poll if/when it comes out.

As for those who don’t pay for the game, I have to say “sorry but you get what you pay for”. Not being mean.. it is what it is.

As I have told my kids for over 3 decades now… Life isn’t fair and never will be. Suck it up, figure out how to make it the best you can.. move on.

CD did NOT throw the matchup. SoS purposely bagged CD every chance they could get. They stood and watched while YB took SM and other towers and keeps and wiped CD so they couldn’t stop YB. CD did everything they could but when you’re fighting 2 servers and one of them targets only YOU then you are destined to lose. SoS didn’t want to drop to T4 so they “teamed up” with YB, even if YB didn’t realize it.

I know this because I have one of my accts in on the server that’s linked with SoS and was told that directly by two of the tagged commanders that were doing just what I described above.

Pile of garbage play if you ask me.

ummm… perhaps you should read some of the other forums closer before going on the attack? Just a suggestion. What you don’t seem to be seeing is actually there.

Not trying to be nasty at you… but seriously your comment is far from accurate in just the last week alone. :P

(and a huge number of entries in here are either duplicates or truly ltp issues, imo)

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Balthazzarr.1349:

you mean.. AFTER you buy the three items ahead of the commander’s wings of war… right?

Correct.

kk, tx

you mean.. AFTER you buy the three items ahead of the commander’s wings of war… right?

aaand… problem solved.. it was the isp’s modem. The issued a full reset on it and all appears to be back to normal.. :P

I’m on NA… my ping is only around 200-600 right now but it’s usually under 100. I have a feeling it’s going to turn out to be the ISP’s modem giving me grief. I might have to call them.. grrr

wow.. lots and lots of new posts here… anyone else experiencing any sorts of lag beyond usual lately?

Is it really just me? Since the PoF beta came out I’ve experienced rubberbanding like never before. Frankly in the last 2 years alone I’ve experience lag maybe once or twice.. but now it’s pretty much every time I’m getting online.

I can’t imagine it’s my system, gaming machine, 60mb internet and so on. It doesn’t even matter if I put the graphic settings on low (which is gross). Making me crazier than usual…

Svarty.8019:

Balthazzarr.1349:

The sad thing is that there are a number of ANet people that play in WvW.

Some people wonder if zero is really a number.

lol.. I have run with anet players a few times now.

It means the abacus broke and can’t count to 70

nooo… what I mean is… AFTER it had been reported several times it would really have been a simple thing to go check it out. I didn’t even know it existed until I saw it reported, then went to see.. Took me a couple minutes.. I’m just saying they could have done the same thing.

This most recent video request has come out well after this bug had been reported. I would have made a video if I could but for some reason overwolf won’t do it, and the video function in the “awesome” software called windows 10 doesn’t seem to want to work either.

Got in… did the first part of the story on it… then found “mastery point”. Yay a mastery point, right there in the city. Oh wait… it’s more like a “heart”…. and super pain in the butt exercise that I finally gave up on. I’m not sure why this was implemented this way but I finally gave up on it… went out into the desert for a few minutes… and I haven’t been back.

Probably won’t be back until the update comes out. For me at this point, I’m not seeing a compelling reason to go back there. I spent a bundle on it so I suppose I’ll have to go there when it comes out just to try that Mastery Point again and ride some mounts. But for now, it’s back to the ‘old world’ and WvW for me.

I’m not saying it’s a bad implementation…. but what I am saying is that by the time I got that far (which wasn’t very far) it didn’t hold my attention enough to stay.. and as a matter of fact that MP was enough to just make me leave.. But that’s just me, I’m sure that many others will go a lot further and have some fun, although I don’t see anyone on my long friends list in there anymore either so maybe they feel similar? not sure….

psizone.8437:

DemonSeed.3528:

Definitely needs updates, but on more glaring issues.

Definitely, but if we get this riled up over a small, relatively simple update, what will the forums be like if anything goes wrong during an important update?

I think they’ve said a few times that devs go back and forth on projects, it could well have been a non-WvW dev that did this update so it’s not like they did this instead of something else.

They’re definitely slow on the important stuff, and they focused on things that I disagreed with when they did that voting way back. However, I genuinely don’t know how difficult fixing the important issues is or how long it will take, so getting something whilst we wait for those things to get implemented is great.

People seem to get riled up over pretty much any update in this game, and probably every other game out there. There seem to be a fairly solid set of regular folks in here who have something bad to say about pretty much everything. Even the things that “they” asked for aren’t done the “right way”.

Frankly nobody in the world will ever get it “the right way” in everyone’s eyes. The people that complain will continue to complain.

But what I have noticed is that ANet seems to let it all continue and digs through this mess for gems that seem to make sense most of the time. Gliding is a gem and frankly imo has been implemented fairly well despite the few spots that do need tweaking.
It doesn’t seem to me to have been a “rushed change” as one person suggested.

As for the “updates after the updates”… when has there been a time in this game that ANY update hasn’t been followed with tweaks along the way.

Folks… build a game this huge and complex and let me know when you can make significant changes to it without having to tweak it.

[podium mode on]
In the meantime, seriously, please step back from the “Anet doesn’t love us” rhetoric and just either enjoy what you can in the game most of us paid for, or give some constructive feed back. All the insults that are flying around on these forums, (that ANet seems to be ok with), are truly not productive.

- to the folks quoted in this reply… this is NOT pointed at you –

[podium mode off]

The sad thing is that there are a number of ANet people that play in WvW. In CD alone one day we had three of them and one of them commanding. It baffles me why they needed one of US to create a video that they alone could go in and verify in a matter of minutes. sigh

You can STILL GLIDE FROM THE PANG SIDE! roflmao… whether you own it or not!

All they needed to do was raise the cliff by about 300. That’s it!

Dawdler.8521:

Balthazzarr.1349:

Glide on them, they glide on us.. glide away, and so on.

Instead of flying that just make me think of two zergs slathered in oil going at each other.

hmm…. oh ya I saw that game… but it was adults only!

Yes but it does go both ways so that makes it fair imo.

Nidome.1365:

Gliding makes Windfall from Air Keep Shrines obsolete
If you can glide you don’t need windfall which is one of the major bonuses of capping the air keep shrines when owning the keep.
If gliding is staying then windfall needs changing to something usefull.

Actually not everyone has advanced gliding so they can actually run out of energy and drop. If you’re gliding within the “windfall” of your air keep (and run out of gliding energy) then at least you can drop without dying.

But…. wasn’t it always “jump and die” before??? So the only difference is that you MIGHT be able to not die if you can glide. Ah yes, another challenge and another reason to look at the map. Like driving a car on a busy street.. gotta pay attention

Strider Pj.2193:

Balthazzarr.1349:

DevilishLyx.2340:

Strider Pj.2193:

So you’re saying it’s working as intended?

No I’m saying imagine if you have redo the heart quests on a map in order to fly near it, and then you have to redo ALL the heart quests in order to fly anywhere on the map.
But then imagine this being on an hour timer (WvW towers and camps can flip within 5-10 minutes minimum) and you having to redo all those all over again in order to glide.

You wouldnt accept that on a PvE map, so why a WvW map?

Capturing a tower to be able to access it via gliding has absolutely zero to do with redoing hearts in PvE. zero…

After re reading this, he MUST be trolling lol…

agreed.. :P