ah, my solution would be to remove the tactivators altogether since imo they are mostly a waste of space. Other than the possible wp if you have a zerg nearby to come help and a small amount of supplies they’re kind of meh.
About the only things I feel useful in those upgrades is the +10 and maybe the sabotage depot options.. and we don’t need tactics for those. Just my thoughts though
I wish we could just go back to vanilla gw2, the first couple years, HoT did major damage to wvw.
I believe that HoT in itself didn’t hurt WvW. What really hurt WvW was bringing something as big as HoT in while at the same time completely changing WvW with new borderlands that were almost impossible to navigate. The barriers that were there originally combined with much more obstacles that we have to deal with now caused even the most “die hard” wvw players to look at it and go NO WAY. By the time ANet responded by “fixing” the dbl so that it was much more usable (although still too big) a lot of people had just left wvw… and I know a few that still stopped playing gw2 altogether.
Now you add the linking, and you had noted (in some of the comments I filtered out for space), that it was up to the people to maintain their communities. I know that many people really tried to do this. But what community do you have when you really do NOT have a steady place to “hang your hat”? Being moved from host to host after the third iteration pretty much cleaned out a couple of the linked servers that I know of. They have people that bandwagoned there of course but the original “community” went poof. I moved my main to a host server where I already had some friends and the difference in the “feel” of things was immediate.
This debate could go on forever, and it probably will, lol.
For me I solved my “non fun” by moving to a host that I liked. My alt is still on my old server so I can go run with my friends there when I want but I probably go on that acct once a week now, maybe.
Bottom line to me is that linking seriously damaged WvW more than it helped. Do I have an answer? No I don’t know what the answer would be. So I figured out how to live with what has been done and have some fun again because frankly I still really like this game and the people I know in it
This week has been the best matchup I’ve played in since joining TC. We’re having even groups duking it out for 10+ mins/smaller groups coordinating to take down much larger groupd and its just amazing. Great fights every evening this whole week.
Agreed.. I’m on CD and it’s been quite a fun week for a change. At least this week we don’t have one of the huge servers sandbagged down to us… and some real fun fights. Roaming/havoc has even been a lot of fun
Well, first you want guaranteed lots of activity.. then you don’t want queues. I’m not being mean when I say, good luck However I’m not sure that many have 2 hr queues… There are blobs on every server, even the linked ones since they are attached to hosts. I recently moved to CD and quite happy with that move. It’s the bottom of the tiers but still loving it.
If we own the keep at the time, then why not just take the tower wall down and cap the tower? I’m really not sure how this is an “issue” since… isn’t this thing called WvW all about the danger and risk of running in those areas? Do we really want to make it so safe to get around that it becomes boring and then people start complaining about the “easy” mode of operation in there?
Of course not everyone will be happy, I get that. But WvW, to me, is meant to be NOT easy. It’s a challenge, it’s nasty, people love to gank you, zergs love to roll over that one person and a few love to laugh. It’s the nature of WvW, and it’s the nature of some people. I don’t like those things I mentioned above… but… I’ve learned to make adjustments to my builds, and learned the ‘lay of the land’ so that I can go in and out of sight and usually avoid quickly as possible. It doesn’t always work of course and I’m glad about that or I would be bored.
For me, I prefer to keep these challenges in there. The blob-fest karma trains are a different story… boooooring. But the other challenges like this and roaming really has to stay, in my opinion
That kind of would defeat the purpose of having separate missions I think. The purpose, I believe, is to give us both something not that difficult along with other missions that are more difficult, even if the next mission is “the same” but requires more to do.
My issue with missions is that there are ones in WvW that REQUIRE at least 3 people etc. to run. That really kills it for the small guilds that are trying to get things done for their guild and can’t get people on at the same time.
imo, there should be “recommended” numbers of people but not required numbers.
Just my thoughts
All I can tell you is, I run a ASUS RoG laptop. Cost me $1700 CDN, 3 years ago. It stays super cool always, screams like the devil. I never get lag in the game with the very rare exception where there are actual ANet server issues. Not even when there are three blobs in the same spot.
All this talk about laptops being substandard really just means, to me, that some people haven’t found the right laptop yet . No I don’t work for the company, I’m just a user like the rest of you and it doesn’t matter if I’m at home, or sitting in Starbucks on their internet, I can still play with no issues. Mazda never had ZOOM like this
Edit: I run mostly HIGH on everything, and Medium settings on a couple.. nothing in the graphics is set to low.
No wonder i can’t get anyone to play wvw with me. I was at a popular server moved to crystal desert and NO ONE wants to wvw.
TkMan… what is your times that you’re online??? I’m on off and on during the daytime and a lot of the time after 7pm most week nights (pacific time). If you want to join up for some roaming havoc send me a whisper or better yet join my guild so we can find you easy As I said in my previous post.. I get frustrated, but I keep going back for more!
ah yes, well the incentive to play based on whether or not we win regardless of server I’ve been on.. doesn’t exist for me. The incentive to play and have fun and some good battles definitely exists though. The problem of course currently is in the way people bounce up and down the ladder. I have no problem being in the bottom server.. lol, I’ve been there pretty much all my wvw life and that’s just fine. My problem comes when we are here and someone who definitely has a huge number more members playing comes up against us. I mean here we were defending our fire keep against one of their huge groups, while another one took our T3 Air and then Earth keeps. We have nowhere near the numbers to deal with this.
Tired, frustrated, blahblahblah.. but will I quit WvW… lol NOT likely! I live for it. I have backed off a bit to get a breather, and will hope that the matchup changes next week.. but I’ll always be there somewhere at the very least wreaking havoc in the enemy bl’s..
lol, I’m not the least bit cranky. and if you read my post you would see I’m talking about perceptions, not necessarily reality. At the end of the day what people perceive becomes “their reality” regardless of the real truth. It’s just the way of life and calling people cranky isn’t going to go very far in the “let’s work together” side of things.
What is the point of appeasing people whose perceptions are independent of reality? There is another word for that sort of people: delusional
If people are so set on believing you are malicious, then anything you do can be misconstrued as such since they don’t care about the truth. Even doing nothing.
I don’t think resorting to be insulting people will be very productive.
The problem is that we don’t really even know what the reality is. We only know what we are being told and we have no way of really knowing the real truth. So while we are left with is perception.
It’s not an insult. It’s just simple logic. Perception being reality is fine, but if they’re so set in their ways, then nothing is going to matter. If one can go outside and tell me they’re a attack helicopter, then i’m going to take them as seriously as that. Likewise, if people are going to indulge in paranoiac fantasies in a video game, that’s fine too, but don’t disrupt my game based on them.
Sadly you and others missed my real point. It’s ok, what will be will be.
lol, I’m not the least bit cranky. and if you read my post you would see I’m talking about perceptions, not necessarily reality. At the end of the day what people perceive becomes “their reality” regardless of the real truth. It’s just the way of life and calling people cranky isn’t going to go very far in the “let’s work together” side of things.
What is the point of appeasing people whose perceptions are independent of reality? There is another word for that sort of people: delusional
If people are so set on believing you are malicious, then anything you do can be misconstrued as such since they don’t care about the truth. Even doing nothing.
I don’t think resorting to be insulting people will be very productive.
The problem is that we don’t really even know what the reality is. We only know what we are being told and we have no way of really knowing the real truth. So while we are left with is perception.
lol, I’m not the least bit cranky. and if you read my post you would see I’m talking about perceptions, not necessarily reality. At the end of the day what people perceive becomes “their reality” regardless of the real truth. It’s just the way of life and calling people cranky isn’t going to go very far in the “let’s work together” side of things.
Ok, seems there are a few concerns, so let me give some info here (with no slight intended for the OP or anyone else participating in this thread):
- We encourage our team members to play the game. Many of us do. This is a good thing for the game and for the community! This is good for every aspect of the game, from PvP, to WvW, to PvE, and beyond.
- Sometimes playing the game in a competitive sense means.. you win! It doesn’t seem fair to suggest that a developer — who has absolutely no advantage on the live game — should back off, or intentionally take a dive, or move to a different server. After all, it’s likely they are and have been a participating member of a particular world for some time, and moving isn’t reasonable, nor is it required, nor should it be expected. I’m on a world that isn’t highly competitive, but I don’t find myself feeling the urge to move to a higher-ranked world. Conversely, if my world suddenly becomes competitive, I won’t be shuffling out of there to satisfy some edge-case expectation of me as a player or staff member.
- No one is required to represent the ArenaNet guild. In fact, no one at the company is even required to join the Anet guild. Both are entirely voluntary. I rep other guilds, sometimes, but I rep Anet most of the time because that’s my choice. Other members of my team are not members of the guild at all. It’s very much an individual decision.
- We don’t have a fully decked out guild hall if you mean in the decoration sense. You should have seen me scrambling to decorate for Wintersday. I’ve thought of taking up scribing to do more. Quite frankly, I feel we have a real dearth of decorations and going to other guilds’ halls to see how they decorate is always a treat for me, because they do it so well!
- Did I mention ArenaNet playing ArenaNet’s game is a good thing?
Have you heard the saying: “Perception is reality” ?
Regardless of what you and the rest of ANet knows and does there is a perception out there that you have access to abilities that other people don’t have. It doesn’t matter if it’s true or not because the perception is still there.
When you claim using the ANet tag it truly just upsets pretty much anyone that I know for example. I see the map chat light up with comments that don’t seem to stop for a while once we see a ANet claim on a Keep especially. One favorite comment is for people to go on the hunt for an ANet player and stomp him/her because there’s also a belief out there that you get some sort of title/achievement for doing this. (urban legend?)
The bottom line is that there’s nothing you can say that is going to change peoples’ perception of this. What you all COULD do though is stop claiming using the ANet guild and relieve a LOT of angst within the wvw community just by doing that one pleasant thing for us.
Respectfully.
Kills made in total on Borderlands are roughly 40% : 40% : 20%, that alone shows its not populated anywhere near the Alpine map.
and yes Alpine is stale and old however it does have decent balance. The DBL whilst having some nice points and ideas does not have good balance and it is certainly not much faster to move around than Alpine. Certain parts are, if you hold shrines etc and make use of the jumppads or flying portals but then someone flips a camp or shrine and you’re screwed.
These changes that have been made on the DB map have made them even better imo. Of course you can fall midflight if someone takes a shrine out from under you as you’re jumping. That’s the risk of it. Seriously this game isn’t supposed to be a snap.
The DBL is nowhere near as bad as the people say it is. If the time was dedicated to the DBL, (even half the time as ABL) then people would eventually learn the ins and outs of it. It’s really not that hard to get around. Once you really know the map it’s not as slow as you think. Yes it’s bigger than Alpine but so what? To me that’s the challenge and fun of it.
I have to suspect that no matter what different type of map ANet might come out with there will be complaints. That’s the nature of things. But going in and screaming NOOOOOOO then posting about how it needs to be removed truly isn’t going to be helpful… once again.. in my opinion..
*Edit: Note, the first iteration of DBL was totally terrible. It was definitely designed to be painful for anyone and everyone. The changes that have been made to it since then have made it much better.
OP to me is something that is significantly difficult to counter consistently while being dangerous all in an average players hands. If it is effective but requires exceptional skill to pull off, not OP at least in the general sense.
A good example of generally not being OP is the Druid. Druids can be so bunker they are near unkillable. Others hit like a truck. However, there are no builds (that I know of) that pull both off with an average driver. There are some extremely well played Druids that are monstrously good but in my experience that centers around exceptional skill. Engineers, Revs and Tempests follow a similar line. They can feel OP but in almost every instance you are dealing with an extremely skilled player with complex rotations. Basically the player is mostly beating you, not solely the build.
Now underwater Rangers/Druids are stupid OP.
Again just my opinion.
lol, I gotta say that I LOVE it when someone jumps in the water to get away from me. That is a total death sentence…. for them.
I dislike DBL and avoid playing there if at all possible. It’s really difficult to navigate and if you die in a fight there is no way you’re getting back to the tag.
It also seems really PvE heavy. Like the person who designed it had no interest in big fights. Seige Wars is not my idea of a good time, unless I want to go semi AFK while listening to music on a night capping crew.
I play WvW for intense Zerg/Blob fights and in my experience they are in short supply on DBL.
Wow, this is truly from someone who doesn’t know the DBL at all. DBL is so easy to get around compared to when it first came out that it makes me shake my head when people say how hard it is. If you spend as much time in there exploring it and running around as you do disliking it you would find it’s not as bad as you first thought. It’s actually quite a fun map to run on once you know it
being color blind is a bit of a blessing here eh! lol.. what red circles????
I am happy to see that when you are outnumbered in a BL the enemy gets no points from killing your and your people. At least when their blob rolls over you and they dance on your head you can lay there and smile knowing they get nothing from it other than causing you to invoke your wp mastery
This is awesome: Being killed while outnumbered no longer grants any war score to the enemy team.
That might be something worth celebrating if outnumbered was a local buff instead of map wide…… or if the score actualy mattered….
^ This lol.
So not worth celebrating for people who don’t actually play the game as designed? I mean if you’re going to ignore the scoring of the game mode which counts the score according to things all over the map, whatever you’re doing is objectively no better from a game perspective than running around like a quaggan.
I play for my own enjoyment.
Ask TC players how much the score affects them, no matter how badly they lose they continue to gain glicko and are stuck in T1.
I’ve been playing on my GoM account this week, please tell me what difference the score is going to make at the end of the week when we are linked to a new server.
You get nothing for winning, you get nothing for losing. You can’t even claim bragging rights because the score is all about coverage, not skill.
So totally true Jim. Kind of humorous story … I got whispered by an enemy that we had to bring a whole server to kill him (10 of us)… then he came back with about 20 and they stayed back and ganked our trailers… ah sigh… but I had to laugh. Those that have the numbers, win… even so, our little group continues to bug the h*** out of the enemy every chance we can get and just have fun.
The one nice thing to know now is that when they blob us to death they get no points when we’re outnumbered, which for our group is most of the time.
Welcome to WvW… It’s not really as dead as some people in here would have you believe. Find a good group and just go have fun. Raise your expectations and you’re in trouble..
We just want to get away from our old server and into something new. We want a medium population server, so we can actually afford the switch. Looking for a friendly server that’s good for a casual WvWer to pop in and follow a commander for a while, without needing to join a WvW-focused guild. Decent activity with no/low queues would be awesome. We’re leaving Anvil Rock, and considering Crystal Desert. Does this sound like a good fit? Any other suggestions?
Remaining on AR is not an option, neither of us has any interest whatsoever in staying here. That means we’d also prefer a server that isn’t frequently paired with AR.
For reference, these are the servers currently listed as medium population:
Ferguson’s Crossing, Devona’s Rest, Kaineng, Darkhaven, Eredon Terrace, Ehmry Bay, Borlis Pass, Sorrow’s Furnace, Isle of Janthir, Crystal Desert, Sanctum of Rall, Henge of Denravi, Gate of Madness.High servers, in case they dip down at night (I think I read that pop is based on number online, not on server?): Dragonbrand, Fort Aspenwood, Northern Shiverpeaks, Stormbluff Isle.
(NA by the way)
EDIT: I don’t mean to dissuade anyone from staying on or moving to Anvil Rock! Our reasons for leaving are entirely personal and have nothing to do with the server as a whole.
If you’re looking for a medium linked server with a good community still then you might consider Borlis Pass. We came close to imploding like one or two of the others I know of but managed to “revive” and have a group of people that really just love to go in and have fun. I won’t say we’re better or worse than anyone… but we do have a nice upbeat bunch of folks. Message me anytime in game or on the Borlis.org web site and we can chat. Wherever you do end up… have fun!
Thanks for this. Still chuckling…
