Guild Wars 2

I really wish I had the time invested into WvW to have guard stacks.

akamon.2769:

snap. >: DDD good going, TC. i wanna fight!

where ma SoR at??

also, in case you guys haven’t seen this yet:
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/world-xp-and-you/

yay. though i only really play one character haha but for those of you that gots plenty o’ alts!! rejoice!

[added: and for fun, with this change, who’s got the highest rank in this match-up??]

I normally don’t go posting in other match threads, But I expect to see you in the new arena at some point next week. :P

Torch is honestly a great offensive offhand, not just due to the burst on throwing #4, but because it works so well with typical 1h builds. If you pick up Fiery wrath, radiant power, and RHS, you can activate #4 (without throwing at first) and light people up for 20% extra damage + burning damage + the 15% crit you get for your main hand. Then right before it expires throw it for burst + extra burning duration. Also with the new(er) torch trait, you can pretty much keep burning up 100%. In WvW it works so well with the scepter simply because if you start getting kited you can at least use the throw for some range burst, and also #5 works well to damage thieves in shadow refuge (along with laying down a smite on it) Honestly though, the #5 could use a bit of a buff, since it really has no use outside of a group, or outside of hitting 3 targets, maybe upping it to actually hit 5 and making the cone a bit bigger might help.

Keeralah.3140:

Fun fights over in Mag Bl, REV. We need to organize some fights some time.

Sadly I logged on late and missed these fights Did see some of you guys from our yak train on BG BL later though!

Yeah, those ratios are not horribly made up or anything -.- I will say, generally, there are alot of guards/warriors in WvW as far as zergs go. The main reason being the CC meta for running in large groups, and the fact that guardians counter it with group stability. Also factor in the guardians do have some of the best group friendly skill sets and of course they are going to be numerous in groups. The issue though, is that its pretty much all we are really good at, and all we are expected to bring.

As far as roaming goes, thieves/engineers/mesmers are pretty high on that food chain and much more numerous compared to roaming guards/wars. Overall though, it really comes down to group play vs solo play, and with the current meta being a CC/Anti CC battle the two groups that can do either very well are going to be more numerous.

urieldhynne.2743:

Darkedge.5064:

urieldhynne.2743:

Tanky dps zergs (ptv or ctv gear) with a lot of healing and regeneration from guardians is unstoppable and all that berserker guys do nothing vs that, only die and rally enemies, and the damage comes from the entire group (lot of players nuking one point at same time), not from damage dealers without defense who dies in the first enemy nukes. Organized groups with high HP guardians is amazing (ptv + cleric trinkets weapons and HP stacks)

In roaming i play support with a lot of blinds, protections, blocks and heals, my team easily absorb that berserkers nukes (tanky + protections + blinds + heals > damage glass cannon) and zerkers die only by perma retaliation in the majority of cases.

And i have 20k health pool. 3200 armor and 1200 healing power. with 3100 attack damage. You cant hit me for 17k.

Can u tell me what u have gear to get those stats?

Comparing vs a full stacks (sigil, food, wvw traits) thief in my reply, i get that stats with:

PTV armor with melandru runes, full cleric trinkets with soldier weapons or cleric weapons if you want more hp. 5 stacks of defense against guards and 25 stacks of sigil of life. Lemongrass and sharpening stone.

So your crit chance is effectively at nil~ -.-

Tarsius.3170:

they should make it like perplexity – trigger aegis when aegis is broken, no cd

I heard you like aegis, so we put some aegis on your aegis.

akamon.2769:

the main problem i see is if you’re actively using Aegies, it needs to be instant, F3, Retreat.. most of our signets won’t be able to give you that. sure they don’t take THAT long. but if you’re trying to pop an aegis to block a big hit, by the time you see it and hit the button, you’ll be hit and then cast your aegis which will probably be taken off by an auto attack. and this is in a situation where you’re in a small fight so you don’t have random AoE’s flyign all over the place.

though, we will see how the aegis related traits work out. damage. heals, etc. sometimes i run with Signet of Resolve and Bane Signet so that’s two more aegis, but often, when i have signets on, i’d want to keep them up as long as possible unless i REALLY need them. and to sacrifice that for an aegis? hmmm. decisions. decisions.

Keep in mind, it has a 30s CD on the 6th rune, spacing out your signets like that isn’t always going to work. The only signet I honestly think this rune works with is judgement, which would be good with an aegis since it is only really used for an emergency defense button (stun break/aoe weakness, +aegis with this rune set) however, using a rune set for a single utility skill seems pretty over the top.

With a 30s cd this is beyond useless. let alone we only have 1 instant cast signet, so we would HAVE to use judgement if we intended to actually use the aegis to block something. Not sure what the point of them adding this rune actually was…

Boonprot.6274:

Literally a million BG inside Obsidian Sanctum right now. Either they all fight in the arena or none do, rip.

It is a new feature, of course we are going to swarm to it and check it out. I am sure there will be order to it in a day or so once the “ooooooo shiney” wears off. I am looking forward to getting some good duels now that we actually have an area to do so.

Zephyrus.9680:

Bash.7291:

Fuzzion.2504:

Zephyrus.9680:

Lol no. Try killing running full tank guardian with 3 stacks of bloodlust when most of your damage and all cc is melee range. It doesn’t matter that you’re hitting him with a zerker set, still takes minutes.

Their weakness is Chill. Stack em up , ram them in, and watch em cry

Or anything that can move at more than regular speed -.-

Also, @Zeph: Kiting does not mean face tanking you… which is what it sounds like happened.

I guess not every guard is as squishy as yours. And true, kiting implies he was still trying to fight which he was not. He was full out running. Kind of lost the point though.

Anyway I did finally find some excellent fights with BG after so… faith partially restored.

I’m trying to figure out where I said I was squishy, would you mind pointing that out for me? Also, which is it, he kited you, he was super tanky and you couldn’t kill him fast enough, or he ran? I mean, each post seems to change. :P

Fuzzion.2504:

Zephyrus.9680:

Lol no. Try killing running full tank guardian with 3 stacks of bloodlust when most of your damage and all cc is melee range. It doesn’t matter that you’re hitting him with a zerker set, still takes minutes.

Their weakness is Chill. Stack em up , ram them in, and watch em cry

Or anything that can move at more than regular speed -.-

Also, @Zeph: Kiting does not mean face tanking you… which is what it sounds like happened.

Zephyrus.9680:

Guardian kites from ele for 2 minutes till its 1v3. Still goes down. Laughs when team saves him. #T1roaming

If your being kited by a guardian your doing something wrong…

Had some good fights in SoS BL this morning, sorry for any enemies i was 1v1ing and ended up getting ran over by other people on my server, i tried telling them to stop -.- Also to the AuZ (AuX cant remember which one at this point) on SoS, thanks for your 3-4 man group getting in the way of my 1v1 with a mag mesmer, though, I can understand why you needed to jump considering I almost downed both your thieves when during your 3v1.

I think the issue is that BG hasn’t had a blow out week like this… well for a long time. Unlike SoR/JQ we never got pushed down with T2 servers during the random matchups, so we always had someone to fight. I keep telling people to stop upgrading stuff so SoS/Mag can take a tower/camp and we can have something to do, but still people are in that “MUST DOMINATE ENEMY” mindset -.-

This just in! Blowing up the entire western side of outer garrison is now rushing the lords room!

Josh Davis.6015:

A lot of us participate in WvW! Myself? I tend to hop around. I’ve played on AR, SoR, JQ, BG, SBI, IoJ, CD, FA, and a few others.

Playing with the tag on is completely optional, though. When I do use it I like to call it WvW: Tribulation Mode.

Be nice to the little green engineer.

I have a feeling you might be the Anet Engi I have seen on JQ a couple times, and my have chased pretty far through the middle BL ruins and eventually given up because i play a guardian -.-

Aza.2105:

Bash.7291:

The only way I could really see this working is based on how strong shattered Aegis will be. (Which we never even got numbers for) And also if they ever changed aegis to not just block crap attacks and actually have some basic damage threshold. Unless SA is going to be very strong, I don’t see the point of giving up other runes just for an extra crap block here and there.

I don’t expect it to be strong, given that its a adept trait.

Well, they said they wont it to be worthwhile to use, and they were worried about it being OP in group situations, so i guess we will see. Either way, I just do not see Aegis on signets being worth it for us, just because it will only equate to 3 extra aegis at most (considering wrath and mercy should never ever be on your bar)

Generally thieves, the new P/D condition build they have though now is extremely annoying. Anything with a melee weapon though generally either dies or runs.

Tarkus.4109:

Great, another chestbeating thread from BG. Not every server has 24 hour queues all week on all maps and when there is legitimately less people on other respective servers. Even though fighting bgs zone blobs on all maps the with the same 25 people on 3maps, at least we’re getting fights – it would’ve been horribly boring to stay on an overstacked server with no competition.

Edit; comment is in reference to oc and Euro

Great, another post from someone who claimed we had no coverage, now saying we are now over stacked in that same timezone, despite getting no other guilds. Also, how would you know about our queues considering you aren’t on the server anymore? Either way your information is wrong, SOS BL and JQ BL have been without a queue pretty much every morning I have been on this week. (I am NA EST) When I logged at 2am there was no queue on SoS BL, or BG BL. Also, the entire week there hasn’t been a queue on SoS or JQ Bls in the mornings up until EU prime. (8am – 1-2pmish) But please, keep telling me about those 24/7 queues i have to keep waiting in.

P.S.: By the way, the thread wasn’t started by a BG player, his post history shows that pretty easy, so calm down on the chest thumping comments.

Sreoom.3690:

LOL Troll Post.

BG whined about the season match up claiming JQ was the winner…props to the tactic, SoR bought into your mantra and willingly became your kittenes to double team up on us.

Hope y’all enjoy the view at the top…cheap seats as they may be.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Blackgate-VS-Sanctum-Of-Rall-Gold-1st/first

Really? Because it seems that SoR/JQ started the thought that BG wouldn’t have a chance, and that it would be JQ vs SOR for 1st.

Gilgamesh.7364:

Bash.7291:

Dear a-net, fix your queues. Sitting in queue for SoS BL for 3 hours while other guildies were getting in within 15 minutes is beyond stupid. Someone even got in, dropped out to switch chars, and got back in before a few of us ever saw a queue pop -.-

Or give an estimated queue time &/or our position in queue…

LoL does it that way :P

It is because it isn’t actually a queue from everything I have heard, it is a pool of players that are chosen at random. They can’t give estimated times when it is completely random if you get picked or not to enter -.-

Either way, this is off topic, so…. Good fights in SoS BL, got karma trainish at the end of my time on since JQ’s NA had logged, but one of the skirmishes we had earlier at SW ruins was pretty awesome.

MercenaryK.4180:

Perikittenor.1892:

MercenaryK.4180:

Aegis will always block a single attack. That will never change.

Probably, and sadly that will result in a effect that will be wasted 50% of the time against less clever people, and wasted 95% of the time against average intellect people.

The problem lies in how people treat the Aegis buff – since it’s a one time use powerful boon that blocks an entire attack – proc’ing it at the right time is paramount. This player base/community loves the ‘boon & forget’ mentality, which is incredibly ignorant considering the potency of the boon in discussion.

It’s easier for people to throw up Prot and/or Regen and not think about what’s going on than it is for some one to know when to hit VoC or, in this discussion, activate a Signet (which the Guardian has a few that are 1 second or less activation time), and block a hard hitting attack. In which case we can all agree, hopefully, in those coordinated moments, we can say we’d rather have Aegis for full nullification than say Protection that allows us to eat 66.6% of the attack.

Since the discussion of Aegis’s usefulness is often tied to PvP & WvWvW, can we honestly say we’re good players and still be surprised by the certain attacks that are coming our way? I mean, when I see a good player’s youtube videos, they’re anticipating a lot of attacks and have great timing when it comes to dodging, and pulling the right skill to use at the right time.

Why is Aegis exempt from being mastered in such a way? Because it is a boon deemed to be a ‘boon & forget’ type?

As others have said, it is because of the way it works. Alot of attacks have multiple hits, while only few are burst. This is point is only further exemplified in WvW, where you have multiple small damage sources coming from all directions, you could easily pop an aegis CD to block a warrior’s eviscerate, only to have it ripped off by some small Ele AoE that you had no way to know was coming. Also in cases like against a thief, if an attack is blocked, they do not get taken out of stealth. Thus making Aegis a complete waste against one of their hardest hitting attacks, as they can just attack again for the same effect. The same can be said for anything with pets, where odds are the pets are going to blow up the aegis and not the actual enemy player. 1v1, yes, Aegis can be used to negate alot of damage when used correctly, anything 3+ where you are taking multiple hits, Aegis becomes a complete waste.

Dear a-net, fix your queues. Sitting in queue for SoS BL for 3 hours while other guildies were getting in within 15 minutes is beyond stupid. Someone even got in, dropped out to switch chars, and got back in before a few of us ever saw a queue pop -.-

Something people might want to remember, the Anet tag is for all employees I believe, not just Devs. In all my time on BG, I have only ever seen 4 A-net tags, 3 of which were in LA, 1 was in WvW, just a few nights ago. Also, all 4 were different classes, a warrior, a guardian, a ranger (yes a ranger, with the SB legendary) and the thief in WvW (I think he was the one following KNT around). I have also seen an engineer for JQ a couple times in WvW, but that is it as far as anet tags go. I find it funny that that screenshot earlier shows as many anet tags in one spot that i have seen ever.

Agree as well. The offshoots in the Borderlands are not too much of an issue, with them being in the northern skritt/centaur area, but EB is beyond horrible with them being in merc camps. Let alone the fact that they can and easily do kill supply yaks just makes no sense. I have no issues with adding stupid nodes like candy corn or other things, but when you have full events that are effecting the actual WvW gameplay, something is wrong.

Snipey.6937:

I fought a bunch of times with a BG commander this morning, busy trying to take out our siege over the course of an hour atop SMC. What skill tree has flight so I can even it out a bit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgftdmWgu5I

To be fair, I think that says more about the state of ranger, considering they did that, and still got owned.

…. Wait, what? condition clears from aegis?

Effek.4653:

BG running a 70+ blob < why JQ not showing up?> their numbers has been reduce and they are not showing up.

kitten happen to your brain seriously, we are still coming out but not the freaking 70-80man that you running on every BL. crack your numb head and stop telling yourself you are not stack on all 3 timezone.

You have the equal numbers during SEA timezone, remember this JQ doesn’t have the equal numbers on EU timezone like you did there BG. Gratz on your win though.

When JQ was pulling 350+ PPT on monday SEA/OCX, and then gets tanked to less than 200 PPT the next day during the same timezone, it means someone didn’t show up…. its pretty easy to tell, but please continue on telling us how screwed up our heads are.

I really do not understand why people keep bringing up week 1. Week 1 was a direct result of the announced weekly matchups, and the fact that JQ fought 2 T2 servers 3 weeks while BG/SOR only fought that type of match 1 week. At that time, the only way to stop JQ from winning season 1 hands down, was to push them to third. SoR knew that, BG knew, that and I am dead certain most of JQ knew it was coming. The only reason BG won, is because nobody expected BG to take all of the matches against SOR. Not our fault that SoR and JQ underestimated us.

“Everyone knows ZD was bought” Really? and how much did we pay them? The only times we have ever given money to guilds, was to help pay for transfer fees, and generally that does not even cover all of it. So please explain how BG “Bought” guilds, when no money was made for the transfer guild. And as far as that goes, what about the guilds that JQ “bought” pre-season. I find it funny how 1 guild coming over has somehow destroyed all server balance, yet Monday morning (monday night for SEA) JQ was padding a lead that they had taken from us on the weekend, yet all of a sudden in the same timezone today, it is the exact reverse. Did ZD decide to change their timezone to OCX/SEA/EU, or is it just that JQ didn’t show up with the numbers they had on monday?

I really expected this week to be repeated flipping of first place, with BG’s EU/NA taking back the lead every night, and JQ’s SEA/OCX doing the same during their prime times. For whatever reason, JQ just did not seem to show up this morning, and it put them in a very hard spot.

The only way I could really see this working is based on how strong shattered Aegis will be. (Which we never even got numbers for) And also if they ever changed aegis to not just block crap attacks and actually have some basic damage threshold. Unless SA is going to be very strong, I don’t see the point of giving up other runes just for an extra crap block here and there.

kaian.2615:

scootshoot.6583:

My servermate took this screenshot minutes before week 1 leagues started, this was prior to ZD’s joining as well. Regardless, good job on the win, but to state BG wasn’t already stacked couldn’t be further from the truth,

whats your point with that SS? being full proves nothing, SOS, JQ, SOR,… all of us are very high, yet SOS cant pull half the numbers u T1 guys put on WvW, being Full means crap, if half the ppl that transfered there are just PVE’rs looking for a free dolyak finisher.

Pretty much this. People seem to forget that BG and TC have some of the biggest PVE communities, and that those numbers are included. Several times I have seen TC as full, yet they are not a T1 server. I also wonder how a server’s overall population status matters, when there is a cap on the amount of players you can have in WvW regardless. Also keep in mind that the Halloween event had just started at that point too, giving the people who don’t WvW more incentive to log in.

KeeZee.7312:

Reslinal.2359:

scootshoot.6583:

Reslinal.2359:

scootshoot.6583:

Congrats BG on Anets first league championship! It was close for awhile but when JQ’s finest hour Oceanic/Sea is unable to win the PPT battle by a wide margin it’s apparent the end is near as ZD will take advantage of the minimum resistance afforded during JQ’s least manned play time and another 5k+++ to the lead.

Have fun with your golden doly’s, make sure to share a screen shot!! With this win I believe you guys can take week 7 off (well deserved).

Yes, I admit I ribbed you some as it was all in good fun in a video game of all things. No hard feelings

While I appreciate the early congratulations, the match is not won until at least Thursday:) Both JQ and BG have pulled amazing come backs before, so a mere 8k lead or even 20k lead is not guarantee for win.

Do we not agree JQ’s strength in numbers is Oceanic/SEA? the fact they were unable to push back hard during their peak ppt hours says a lot of which way this match is gonna end up.

And it was precisely the early EU/EU time (BG’s stronger time) a couple days ago when BG got beaten by JQ and lost its lead then. There are so many factors affecting the performance at each time zone (e.g. whether you can get organized guild in map, a bad scout lead to loss of t3 keeps, wild card guilds like Agg, commander not able to log in etc), that it’s really hard to say with certainly what’s going to happen.

Yes BG is doing really well right now and should make next several hours more difficult for JQ, however it does not mean there’s no chance for JQ to reset the fights later on and get a come back.

Enjoy the pvDoor, you all earned the easy matches remaining after having such a hard schedule for the first 3 matches.

No point for JQ to show up knowing their efforts are in vain and provide entertainment for BG.

Seriously dude, go back to your own thread. It’s bad enough you wouldn’t stop going on about the same thing over and over and over for the last three weeks, I don’t think any of us really care to hear your defeatist attitude for a fourth.

Jeydra.4386:

hints.8036:

With sincere respect, I want to congratulate BG on surpassing JQ this early in the week. As expected, our lack of european recruit is a strong liability. Looking at the scores, I estimate that we would need to create ~5K nightly ppt buffer before the EU time to offset the coverage weakness.

I haven’t given up hope and plan to put up a good fight when PST comes around.

Yes, meanwhile BG’s full queues on all four maps never let up. I kinda feel bad about us closing the gap not because we played better, but because we had more players. In the SEA timezone I played in earlier, we made no progress for two hours despite having a full queue. Flipping so many things during JQ’s weakest timezone almost feels like cheating.

Um… what server are you on? BG had no queue on SoS BL most of the day, up until EU time possibly. I even reported that several times in SoS BL map chat, as I was on a better part of today. JQ BL was also off and on for a queue as well. the only 2 maps we had queued through the day was EB and BG.

Yeah… that was odd. Have seen match up threads 10x worse not get closed. Not exactly sure if something happened in the 45 mins I was gone or something.

Maelwaedd.5842:

Kiff.8157:

nirvana.8245:

Be aware there is a bug that seems to be related to this lag. I have noticed this on many occasions now and seen players commenting on it. Basically you cannot cast any skills. But others can. I had this happen recently during a defence over hills. During the fight I put it down to skill lag. However, after the fight I was still not able to use any skills and my guildies where running around with me using all their skills like nothing was wrong. I relogged and all my skills worked again. I probably went through that entire fight without skills whilst other players were able to. The bug is pretty gamebreaking and its hard to identify having it or if you are just experiencing skill lag.

Yes. That happened but I’m not sure if it was a bug. Sometimes the game just lost connection but others on ts were just fine.

You can fix that bug by picking up or using supply no need to relog, not sure what it is but its like the system cannot identify what weapon set you are using and therefor does nothing, even switching weapons will not fix it

Ive noticed this bug the most when trying to pick up ele weapons. If you cancel out of the pick up animation it seems to bug you from using any skills that are not instant cast (this includes heals and elites) Also, trying to pick up a different ele weapon doesn’t work, as it would not even allow me to pick it up. I will have to try the supply thing next time it happens though. The only way I knew how to fix it before was to get killed -.-

purgatoryz.6038:

Perikittenor.1892:

Yes, yes he did. Guess the perma stealth thief never encountered another perma stealth thief. Oh wait a min, that actual make sense.

Perma stealth is dead Dec. 10. I also have a guardian with a few hundred hours so I’m not “the thief”, lol.

For starters, I was referring to PvE as well. Any change has to be considered there as well, though it’s slightly less important.

So your argument is based on one of two possible cases. Either this trait is critical to the guardian’s playstyle in PvP or it isn’t.

If this single five point trait is that vital to survival, as you say, then I’d have to objectively look back and ask “why is such a vital, class defining trait at this tier?” If that’s the case, the class designers have somehow failed. So there’s an issue. Perhaps it warrants moving up? Perhaps other skills need to be buffed, but either way there’s an issue.

On the other hand, if VP isn’t that important (and I doubt anyone would agree with that), it’s probably fine and warrants no attention.

The fact that this thread has been created and this issue comes up time and time again leads me to believe the situation in the former, not the latter.

For someone that has apparently played so much guardian you seem to be lacking some key points. The reason VP is so vital is because we lack pretty much any defense in our offensive lines, and our “superior base defense” everyone seems to claim we have is crap. Aegis can we wiped off with the smallest of hits (or in thief’s case, doesnt do anything because you stay in stealth and just to to re-backstab), VoR is extremely poor regen compared to other professions possible regen, and heavy armor doesn’t mean much when people can still hit 5-6k + on 3k armor.

purgatoryz.6038:

Relentliss.2170:

So basically they are just going to slowly strip away all our defenses till this is the worst class in the game. I am not really sure how one is supposed to mele with such low health or regen like we have withou dodging. GJ Anet

Try playing a thief. No aegis, no reflects, no stability (ds doesn’t count), only a few ways to get vigor and they are all being nerfed.

When you look at a guardian vs. a thief, of the two I’d expect the thief to be able to maintain near perma vigor. Dodging is literally all they have. I’d say vigorous precision needs a rework to slightly tone it down.

You get reflects from DS, and you get projectile block from Smoke screen…. If you want to trade Aegis for your stealth I am sure we would be more than happy… Also, you have dodges on your weapon skills, along with stuns, along with defensive teleports. but please, keep complaining.

So much hate in this thread, Then again, not much different than I expected considering what I had heard of mag’s forum warriors. Also, Something that Akamon started on, but the biggest reason why our roamers are so tanky is just the fact that roaming in T1 is a completely different beast compared to other server groupings. You can’t go high damage unless your a thief/warrior just due to the fact that 90% of the time your going to get 2+ adds. I honestly stopped roaming in T1, just because going solo was pointless when your running from zergs/havoc groups all days. It is sadly one of the downsides of fighting in T1 just due to the numbers game.

I need to dust off my roaming gear, it has been so long. Got sick of starting a fight only to end up getting grouped on every single time… I am going to be so rusty though >.<

rmprodigy.4679:

Goodjob Sor and Mag.. really glad to see and hear about another group of skilled guilds and players like those on Mag are laughing and realizing how weak BG is.

BG see a group of Mags, Mags see a group of BAGS!

#Mag2013

Man, you are just so smart, I mean, im sure it only took you a whole 5 minutes to think up a saying so clever! Have fun at your little hideout in silver league though!

Deli.1302:

Let’s take a moment to wish DIE all the best as they seek out greener pastures and shorter queues. Have fun in Ebay!

Im almost certain your trolling, but I would laugh pretty hard if its true.

Seigfried.5938:

Gilgamesh.7364:

Here’s a summary of the last 34ish pages for all you TL;DR people (randomized)…

1. SoR lost its “fighting spirit”.
2. BG is only winning because of ZD’s.
3. BG will surely lose Week 7 because SoR said so.
4. BG has a lot of money apparently.
5. BG is winning because Battle Field 4 came out.
6. Something about DIE making a post about how BG sucks & then gets wrecked in EB.
7. IRON can’t post on the forums anymore and some members were kicked.

Yeah, that just about sums it up…

Who got kicked from IRON?

I am assuming Shifty did since the guild is not in his sig anymore, but cant confirm 100%

Zee.1294:

Yo…I think u have some complex with your head !…..

…… OH GOD KEEZEE HAS SPLIT INTO TWO, KILL IT WITH FIRE! (no offense, the name thing was just too hard to pass up.)

Zikory.6871:

:( Is he not talking to me any more? I guess back to talking to inadament objects for me…

Sorry, I kinda led him away, you can have him back though, I had my 2 minutes of fun.

KeeZee.7312:

Bash.7291:

KeeZee.7312:

Bash.7291:

Zikory.6871:

KeeZee.7312:

BG has placed first in all their matches so far as well as winning 13 out of 14 matches with SoR. Still waiting to see where BG was in such dire straits.

Oh ya, SoR had higher ppt for a few ticks one day out of the week.

I do find it funny that BG keeps using the match before Leagues as proof that they had it so hard when most servers took it easy to get ready for League. Even some of the BG forum warriors even commented as such.

Why do you keep bring up the match before seasons? Yes we took it easy that week but to be honest JQ would have probably won even if we didn’t. We understand you think BG is the bestest but you should really stop discrediting SoR and JQ. All the trolls and chest thumpers aside, there are still a lot of people on BG that have huge respect for JQ and SoR and know how good they can be.

Side question for ya, what does 13 of 14 matches prove when SoR is well known to play for fights and that PPT is just a subset of why they are out there? From my understanding a lot of SoR guilds feel as if they won by having a exciting match rather than seeing a higher score at the end of the week….

Zik don’t bother with him, he seriously will not listen to anything outside of his one single argument which doesn’t even take every factor into effect.

With every factor considered how does this change that BG has won 92.8% of their match history with SoR………it doesn’t.

/sigh Fine ill feed you. You know what 92.8% win ratio shows? That BG is better than SoR. I mean, if SoR can only win once out of 14 times, that is what it led to assume right? /endtroll

That BG ended up with more “easy matches” than they want to admit to.

And yes, if someone beats you 92.8% of the time in competition it means that they are better than you.

Hey, if you want to call SoR an easy match go ahead, your words not mine.

KeeZee.7312:

Bash.7291:

Zikory.6871:

KeeZee.7312:

BG has placed first in all their matches so far as well as winning 13 out of 14 matches with SoR. Still waiting to see where BG was in such dire straits.

Oh ya, SoR had higher ppt for a few ticks one day out of the week.

I do find it funny that BG keeps using the match before Leagues as proof that they had it so hard when most servers took it easy to get ready for League. Even some of the BG forum warriors even commented as such.

Why do you keep bring up the match before seasons? Yes we took it easy that week but to be honest JQ would have probably won even if we didn’t. We understand you think BG is the bestest but you should really stop discrediting SoR and JQ. All the trolls and chest thumpers aside, there are still a lot of people on BG that have huge respect for JQ and SoR and know how good they can be.

Side question for ya, what does 13 of 14 matches prove when SoR is well known to play for fights and that PPT is just a subset of why they are out there? From my understanding a lot of SoR guilds feel as if they won by having a exciting match rather than seeing a higher score at the end of the week….

Zik don’t bother with him, he seriously will not listen to anything outside of his one single argument which doesn’t even take every factor into effect.

With every factor considered how does this change that BG has won 92.8% of their match history with SoR………it doesn’t.

/sigh Fine ill feed you. You know what 92.8% win ratio shows? That BG is better than SoR. I mean, if we aren’t going to talk about coverage changes, guilds leaving/coming or anything else outside of scores, that is what we are led to assume right? /endtroll

Also, I will give you bonus points, instead of saying 13/14 you changed it to percentages. You might be learning!

Zikory.6871:

KeeZee.7312:

BG has placed first in all their matches so far as well as winning 13 out of 14 matches with SoR. Still waiting to see where BG was in such dire straits.

Oh ya, SoR had higher ppt for a few ticks one day out of the week.

I do find it funny that BG keeps using the match before Leagues as proof that they had it so hard when most servers took it easy to get ready for League. Even some of the BG forum warriors even commented as such.

Why do you keep bring up the match before seasons? Yes we took it easy that week but to be honest JQ would have probably won even if we didn’t. We understand you think BG is the bestest but you should really stop discrediting SoR and JQ. All the trolls and chest thumpers aside, there are still a lot of people on BG that have huge respect for JQ and SoR and know how good they can be.

Side question for ya, what does 13 of 14 matches prove when SoR is well known to play for fights and that PPT is just a subset of why they are out there? From my understanding a lot of SoR guilds feel as if they won by having a exciting match rather than seeing a higher score at the end of the week….

Zik don’t bother with him, he seriously will not listen to anything outside of his one single argument which doesn’t even take every factor into effect.

rmprodigy.4679:

@Alexandria , I read it . And no worries , I will post the video in public we recorded our 20 man group fighting that group that was at least 50+

The bay fight was not 20v50 but nice try, maybe your guild group was 20, but you had another guild (I think it was VIG, though i could be wrong) and plenty of pugs. By the time REV + Pugs got there EE had already engaged and lost a few people, so the numbers were fairly even. At Hills, we may have outnumbered you some, but not by much. We had alot of people still running back from garrison, and only EE had come close to being reorganized, our pugs were still scattered and my guild hadn’t organized yet either.

rmprodigy.4679:

@Alexandria- We fought you guys as a guild group on the BLs as a 20 man force. We have the whole fraps of last night we will post it. We played as a 20 man group to train for GvGs and figured fighting a karma train would be great training. You admit to running a karma train, nothing to chest thump about running a karma train zerg against 20 man guild group. We got more then our fair share of bags regardless.

If you would read my post correctly, i said we ran a train while 90% of SoR was off GvGing… because we pretty much had no choice. Sorry if we didn’t feel like waiting around for 45 minutes for something to fight.

I find it funny you call it chest thumping, while your guild claims to be the most amazing guild ever, yet you got wiped out of keeps multiple times last night, and not from a karma train, both times we were defending said keeps.