Guild Wars 2

spectral walk and flesh worm apparently can’t kite a warrior for 8 seconds now. Lel

Keksmuffin.1450:

People should stop bringing up the argument that every class could use Nightmare Runes. Other classes don’t have Terror and Terror Master which makes the fear-proc way stronger than on any other class apart from condi war with Distracting Strikes maybe.

Apart from that necro is far from being op. The passive fear-procs that people keep bringing up are gimmicks at best.

When I’m playing against these kind of necros the Nightmare Rune usually procs on the first Smite hit or something fearing me out of the necromancers range meaning that it’s just arround 2k free damage on 90s cooldown if I don’t just cleanse it with smite condi.

Reapers Protection doesn’t have the biggest range, I can usually pull them from max range and I’m not getting feared or I just insta cleanse/stunbreak it and burst them anyways.

Both of these procs are just one trick ponies on huge cooldowns that aren’t even doing that much most of the times. The only class I really see getting wrecked by these procs is thief, now that everybody is playing trickery steal which procs reapers prot and they don’t use much cleanse anymore. Most decent builds have tools to deal with these kind of necros tbh.

Double cleanse medi guard is probably one of the hardest matchups for necro. The fact that a necro can still win almost half the time in its toughest matchup shows how strong this spec is.

NeXeD.3042:

Last time someone made this thread I tried to say it wasn’t op and every jumped down my throat saying it was…. now people defend it, the build isn’t op I do like it because it adds mobility and ways to stomp.

For this that think reapers protection is op, wtf should s necro always have to eat hard CC unless we have a pocket guardian oh noes we got one trait that helps against what everyone knows destroys necros oh noes….

BTW vee wee tell your team to relax with the god kitten ed treb, maybe I’ll actually get a team that won’t afk and won’t make the stupid staff ele go kill the treb.

The build is broken 1v1:
It always beats sd thief and usually beats dp
It always beats every engi
It beats all non glass warriors through kiting
It usually beats rangers
It usually beats guardians
It usually beats mesmers
It always beats eles

In spvp it’s almost mandatory you use power runes like Strength or Rage or Ogre otherwise you don’t have enough dmg

btw guys ive heard my thieves complain about this glitch a million times in tournies so i promise its legit
@sizer that still doesnt explain why it goes on full cd

when will ELO be updated

Mike.4830:

Morfeus played Bunker guardian on Khylo and that didnt work either

hes really bad at both lmao

OlrunTheBlade.1486:

Question: Why did you make this thread when you don’t meet the age requirements?

lel

pretty much only depends on comp. If youre playing with multiple roamers then you want to AH because theres less chance of them rotating on ponit. Howeverif youre going cheese mode comp with 2 warriors/2eles/2engis etc then you can try virtues because you can rotate off point to save your cds still.

atm condi necro is nearly unbeatable 1v1, but lacks the best team fight presence. I think you want either a d/d ele or a warrior which both have great 1v1 and team fight potential.

kittenG morf is hilarious. “Oh you guys break so many rules so childish! What you want an example or proof? Noooo I don’t have time for that! Just believe me I swear. I’m the best guard NA remember????”

Blackmoa.3186:

Booms.2594:

NeXeD.3042:

Booms.2594:

The only class that’s broken ATM is necro such beats:
All eles 100%
All warrs 80% at least
All thievss 90%
All guardians 60%
All rangers 100%
All engis 100%
All mesmers 70%

What? Are you saying necro beats those classes? Or the other way around…. because honestly either way your kittening crazy.

necro wins those classes that amount with equally skilledplayers

Only if the equal amount of skill is close to 0

tell me what spec beats noscocs spec ty

NeXeD.3042:

Booms.2594:

The only class that’s broken ATM is necro such beats:
All eles 100%
All warrs 80% at least
All thievss 90%
All guardians 60%
All rangers 100%
All engis 100%
All mesmers 70%

What? Are you saying necro beats those classes? Or the other way around…. because honestly either way your kittening crazy.

necro wins those classes that amount with equally skilledplayers

The only class that’s broken ATM is necro such beats:
All eles 100%
All warrs 80% at least
All thievss 90%
All guardians 60%
All rangers 100%
All engis 100%
All mesmers 70%

lol if we had more points like graveyard every single game would come down to clock

i found blu

tichorum.2415:

I think Brix is correct. I’d like to think more than just one team will go to the WTS, though. Three teams competing for $50k? Why not like 8?

Sure 8 isn’t divisible by 3 (per region), but I’m sure something could be sorted out.

I’d say 3 from EU and NA and 2 from china since china is supposedly the worst, but considering how its held in china it might be 2 from NA and EU and 4 from china

Zelyhn Lekovitch.2867:

masskillerxploit.2165:

Zelyhn Lekovitch.2867:

Anet committed to improve PvE? Nah.

nice troll.

Not trolling.
ANet is committed to LS, and that is not PvE. It’s just noise and colors, and bugs.

what’s pve then? you saying LS is PVP?

what no it says that you can sign up for ToG without wanting to go to WTS if you do win

morf does, bullet does, I do, hehk does
did i miss someone

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/Moobs-Standard-AH-Bunk-Guard-Guide/first#post4241919

http://intothemists.com/guides/2221-kensudas_bunkersupport

its nice you guys are making new bunker guardian builds but until they actually make some changes to the class its obvious that the most efficient builds are just 0 1 6 6 1 or 0 0 2 6 6 with SY/SYG/HtL and shelter. only difference most builds have is what the 2nd sigil besides energy is on the sets.

hi steb I dont want to start drama but since youre wrong I might as well. firstly youre the worst player on blacklisted by far, everyone who knows your team agrees. youre clearly carried by the rest of your pretty talented team (kinda like ferox for us!). so yeah your opinion is kinda worthless to anybody who knows anything about you and your team.
typically you’re considered a free kill by any thief I’m playing with, which is kinda sad really
also guarantee you our team will beat you in scrimms, even with amon playing thief for us!
-mooobs

I dont get it wouldnt less adrenaline mean more usage of signet of fury and healing surge?

Zord.6130:

Booms.2594:

CrimsonNeonite.1048:

I actually don’t think this will effect my play-style too much, but yeah as people mentioned – it’s the strength runes and duo Air/Fire Sigils that make that certain build seem like it’s OP.

I dont want to be a kitten but to people like amon it really doesnt matter that it wont affect lowlevel thieves, this change will hurt thieves immensely at top level pvp

Do you get paid for fanboyism?

yes

CrimsonNeonite.1048:

I actually don’t think this will effect my play-style too much, but yeah as people mentioned – it’s the strength runes and duo Air/Fire Sigils that make that certain build seem like it’s OP.

I dont want to be a kitten but to people like amon it really doesnt matter that it wont affect lowlevel thieves, this change will hurt thieves immensely at top level pvp

“In the hands of a good thief, this set will still outperform every other thief set. "
btw guys d/p thief actually beats s/d thief lololol

Amon is arguably the best sd thief NA so clearly this will affect “good” thieves

O I must’ve forgotten shadow shot doesn’t blind. Ya black powder is the only skill that does. And hitting headshot is so much more skillful than stealthing and dazing from behind. Btw most Acro thieves don’t slot SS. And you clearly use not played the class nor closely watched top thieves if you think this skill change won’t matter for 1v1.
But hey at least you’re smart enough to realize feline grace is the problem not sd.

You know quite a Bit for being bad
D/p has-
Damage (much more)
Safe escape with shadow step
Much more stealth
Much more cc with headshot
Slightly less condi removal with HiS and SS
Limited evades
More blinds (extremely more and utterly insane amount )
Cleave (more)
Spike (at least 2x more)
Omfg dp is so easy op

fabz.4736:

have to agree with amon here it’s the acro trait line that makes s/d such a good build with amount of dodge spam and might on dodge with str runes and fire/air sigil procs for your dmg.. watching sizer play this build and beat any class 1v1 shows how strong it is. but its not due to the spamming 3 its the traits he is using that work so well with s/d.
try spamming 3 without acro you wont live that long

Right but playing s/d with CS is still viable but this nerf will destroy that spec as well. Tbh you’ll probably see d/p Acro after this patch since Acro wasn’t nerfed it’ll be usable still

Zerker stance + signet of might = double dodge and pop elite

Except that there were no buffs to counteract this counter play. So now every class just dodges flanking and wins. GG s/d destroyed.

Teef and Amon a couple of te best thieves I know. I already know sizer and lord, another 2 great thieves I know will agree. Hell even caed would probably agree this is going to kill s/d (though he will probably enjoy it). I sincerely hope Anet reconsiders this change.

No t just completely destroyed s/d thieves ability to burst on demand making it completely useless in team fights and mostly useless in 1v1 since lacernous is probably the main reason it’s strong in a 1v1

no surprises this alchemy guy and narkodx guy are both not even top 1000 on any leaderboard. if youre going to talk like you know what youre talking about, at least play enough that you actually might.

alchemyst.2165:

Amonatory.2453:

alchemyst.2165:

Nah, I don’t think so. I play S/D at times and this will not destroy S/D. If the problem is that you wont be able to hit larcenous strike, just bait some dodges with fake CnD’s and use flanking strike then. It also encourages the player to be smart and rewards better, smarter play, which is good for a thief. Plus more autoattack pressure and encourages more daze pressure.

I do not think S/D is broken.

If you’re that upset then just switch weaponsets. If it’s THAT awful of an experience for you because you can’t land a flanking strike then switch to d/d or d/p or something. Who knows, maybe you could make the new p/p meta. It’s getting buffed.

Sigh, you obviously have no clue what you are talking about.

Please, don’t say that just because you have no counterargument to what I’m saying. This really only affects people that spam 3 on Sword. I’ve played S/D, D/D, and D/p mainly. I really DO NOT think this will be much of a nerf.
Besides, if you’re a true thief, you’ll just deal with it and be awesome anyways, right?
Why don’t we all just wait until patch hits until we start calling out if things are broken?

theres no coutneracting buffs like usual with a nerf. this is just a straight up nerf that will kill s/d.

hope anet realizes the change to s/d thief in that you need to land flanking strike to use lacernous strike completely destroyed s/d. Literally I dont think anyone will run it solely because of that change.

Guard doesn’t lose to Lich 1v1 anyway :P

Signet of stone contests a point

Dirame.8521:

tichorum.2415:

Probably, and hopefully, it won’t be more than just conquest. It’s balanced around conquest. Any other game mode with current balance would be atrocious.

Watch the 2v2 Mistpedia Cup. You can’t bring in whatever class you want. Engineers and Ele’s are the best 2v2 setup. It’s not made for 2v2s.

Oh please, just because 2 good players are winning you come here and say “engineers and Eles are the best 2v2 setup”. Just No.

Come back to me when good players are actually taking part in that 2v2 tournament and showing their stuff.

cuz caed and zoose arent good players

last in first out

best success I’ve found is duoqing with our thief. Him being able to +1 fights while I -1 fights is really helpful and in duoqs we have communication across the whole map usually. It’s also a good far pushing 2v2 comp.

Zirith.6429:

Guard.6751:

Sweet! Do you have a link?

twitch.tv/blu42 vods are there under past broadcasts

edit: also totally called that kitten, you had such an easy road to second place :P

yeah well we actually got 3rd officially gg
and it was the hardest qualifier, tbh I think we would win against every other team that qualified in another bracket

Yeah were some really good games though we’re disappointed with how we did against apex. No doubt they deserved to win tho

ofcourse here are the lore pver’s that come and ruin a good thread

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Obsidia.5127:

ArenaNet don’t know their game well enough to realise how much damage Skyhammer has caused to SoloQ. It’s really sad that they don’t play their own game.

The only way I know how to produce it 100% is using generosity to transfer a fear

Ok bullet punch FINE meds can be used competitively it that’s just because you’re god mode on it