Guild Wars 2

Ok I thought about it some more. I think these World Events should be spread out across a period of perhaps 1 or 2 weeks.

e.g.

Run to LA to get for reinforcements.
Day 1: Ambush at southern Sparkfly Fen.
Day 2: Escape from Sparkfly Fen.
Day 3: Fight though Bloodtide Coast to get to LA.

Go back to retrieve the artifact.
Day 4: Rally up the troops and fight our way to Sparkfly Fen.
Day 5: Destroy enemy supply camps in Sparkfly Fen.
Day 6: Destroy enemy siege weapons.
Day 7: Defeat the enemy army to force them to retreat.

Minor correction: She looked exactly the way we saw her in GW1, except that she had a stripe of white hair (I’m guessing in replace of that lighter-red stripe she had in GW1).

Or maybe its always been white. She just dyed it red in GW1.

Mysteries mysteries.

On a more serious note, I personally don’t think Anise is Livia. Livia is probably pulling the strings behind the scene instead. She will reappear in Kryta’s more dire moment.

Although in GW1, the Lich Vizier Khilbron was able to change his appearance without the help Scepter of Orr. And Vizier Khilbron was a necromancer. So being a mesmer or not has nothing to do with pretending to be someone else. Neither does having the Scepter of Orr a requirement.

http://londonbuffalowings.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/buffalo-wings-2.jpg

Chris Whiteside.6102:

Hi Psycho Robot,

I was referring to the Clockwork Chaos invasions where the meta designs split groups up in order to complete the objective efficiently. Sorry for any confusion.

My point was that whilst it is clear that we are working toward this in the above method and in balancing of individual creatures, i really liked the idea put forward in the thread of even more focus on individual group play in the open world in releases.

Chris

Sorry Chris but the Clockwork Chaos Invasion isn’t good. It was a wild goose chase where players spent more time running around from place to place than actually fighting.

Yes there are multiple commanders going all over the place and waypointing everywhere. But it is total chaos. A player that joined into this event would have no idea what to do. The only way it is done is by being on Teamspeak. But Teamspeak is not part of GW2. We cannot assume that players will have Teamspeak.

The mobilization required in this event is crazy. If the great commander Sun Tzu sees this, he would say that the Lore Slayer (this is Scarlet, if you are wondering ^^) already won this one. Why? Because:

“Whoever can control the movement of his enemy already won the battle.”

Think about it. The Lore Slayer is able to force the players running around and around in circles to chase her portals. Look at how many chances she have at ambushing the players. Look at how tired the players would have be. How can the players who are tired beat an ambush?

Of course these ambushes never happened. The Lore Slayer could have easily won. But she held back. And at the end the players lose because they ran out of time.

Ran out of time. That’s the worst thing ever.

The mobs didn’t kill the players. They didn’t actually conquer anything in their invasion. They just retreat when the timer runs out. And that count as a defeat by the players. What kind of defeat is this?

Wild goose chases=bad
Defeat by timer=bad

The mobs needs to be organized like soldiers. All these portal spawning mobs won’t work. They isn’t fun.

Split the players up by using tactics. For example the mobs’ right flank is about to encircle the whole player zerg. Well the players better split up and send reinforcements to help the players’ left flank. Do not use portals please.

You guys really should look at the Total War series from Creative Assembly. They are very good at setting up battles. Use those as examples.

@ Ricky

I do agree that Anet need to fix the mega queue problems, specially on servers like TC. They got to look at guesting again during events like Teq. But the technological problems aside:

Yes we cannot please everyone. But that’s the point.

This is war. War isn’t fair. The enemies are really trying to win. They are actively planning our defeat. The possibility of defeat in a war is very real. And the effects of losing a war is very real.

This is real life. This is the Living World. This is the Living Story. History will be changed. The whole story is affected.

And it is only when so much is at stake, that players will work hard to improve their game playing skill. That commander would think and plan really hard before acting.

One day, players will go to the ruins of Ascalon Settlement. There they will find a entrance which says:

“Do you want to re-live the Battle for Ascalon Settlement, where the Centaurs defeated the Pact and razed Ascalon Settlement to the ground?”

And upon entering and winning that “re-live” battle with 70+ other players, that player will ponder about what could have been, what should have been, but didn’t happen. How the players could have won, but didn’t. How the guilds could have better cooperated, but didn’t.

And that player and his guild vowed to never let something like this happen again.

And that, my friends, is our living world. Our living story.

I actually think that Livia, Evennia and Anise is a 3 women witch team that dedicated their lives to protect Kryta. All 3 of them are hundreds of years old.

Livia=Necromancer
Evennia=Monk and Guardian
Anise=Mesmer

Not to mention the Kraits has been living right next to the obelisks for ages. Their gods never came. And then the sea dragon (bubbles) arrived, and surely the Kraits prayed to their gods for help. Their god never came, so the Kraits were forced to run away to the surface.

Important point 1: obelisks does NOT equal gods.
Important point 2: obelisks is nothing new. It is like your neighbor’s house.

So now the Slayer of Lores brings the Kraits a few obelisk pieces. Suddenly the Kraits are willing to team up with her? I am supposed to believe this?

If the whole obelisk didn’t bring the Kraits their gods, a few broken obelisk pieces will do nothing.

I got to agree that much of LS has turned into a grind. Everyone just grind train to get the item reward to the point that it is no longer fun.

Why an event as difficult as Teq (not really that hard, but let’s assume it is) doesn’t give a mega reward (Ascended items 100% chance) just for completion is beyond me.

Wallace MacBix.2089:

1 time events are bad no matter how you look at them (based on your text I assume you mean this to be a 1 time event). The 1 time karka event had (deserved) backlash because of that. (Heck even weekend long events over a holiday, dragon bash fire works and Father’s day, had backlash).

So what about the 50-90%+ of the population that can’t be on at that one specific time? What happens if 1 server wins the event and every other server doesn’t? What about overflows?

On top of that, after having to suffer through the new Teq. I never want to have another world event to be like that again. I don’t find it fun to require 80+ people on a voice service with lots of prep time just to do one event.

I just can’t see anything good coming of what you suggest.

Sorry let me clarify. These World Events are repeatable. But only the first event (on the first day) will affect the story.

Do you remember Chahbek Village from Istan in Elona? Foreigners can do that mission, knowing fully well that the story has already progressed past that point. The foreigners were living though a re-cap of the story.

That’s what I envision World Events to be. Players can join each other and re-do World Events at the later date. Then the players can talk about what “could have been” but didn’t happen.

But do keep in mind that only the success or failure of the players on the first day of the event will affect the story.

Let’s assume for a second that there are only 3 servers in GW2: TC, SOS and SBI. TC succeed on their World Event in the first day. SOS and SBI both failed theirs. Since it is 1 win vs 2 losses, the history will assume that all the players failed the World Event, and will move on from there.

Anet can also implement their own ideas. For example maybe by percentage of success. If out of 20 World Events (sum of all servers) on the first day, 13 of them were successes, then the history move on as if all the players succeed. etc

I made a thread about what I envision a World Event to be. Developers please read this.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/lwd/Future-World-Events-Need-your-input

Let’s look at the future of World Events. What do you think future World Events should look like?

Here is what I want:

Let’s say the players (70+) are ordered to transport a very important ancient artifact to Lion’s Arch. Due to the artifact’s size they had to move slowly.

Suddenly, the players were ambushed from all directions. There is no chance of victory. The commander, Trahearne, orders the players to run to Lion’s Arch and ask for reinforcements. Trahearne and his NPCs will defend the artifact until the players gets back.

Fighting past waves upon waves of enemies, the players got to Lion’s Arch. And they returned with reinforcements.

The players found Trahearne trapped within a town. The players and reinforcements must break the siege, defeat the enemies in open field and recapture the artifact. This will require player’s skills, cooperation and tactics.

The Living World will change GREATLY depending on if the 70+ players can get back the artifact or not. History and the story will change forever because of it. So yes it is VERY important.

Do you want World Events like this? IMO, this would be the coolest World Event ever.

IMO, let’s forget about Scarlet’s minion invasion and Teq. Technical battles against organized enemies are the way to go for future World Events.

Dynamic Events was made for new players to get together and level up. Once a player reaches level 80, it should be World Events that keep their interest.

I hasn’t done any DE for like at least 4 months.

@ Neriandal Freit.2810

Sorry but Scarlet’s invasion is badly done too. The mobs are not organized at all. They have like 30 portals, almost A to Z, that they spawn from. The players are sent on a wild goose chase around and around everywhere like headless chickens. At the end the players are defeated by the clock.

“Go to portal B!”
“Go to portal J!”
“Go to portal G!”
“Go to portal X!”
“Go to portal P!”
“OMG only 30 minutes left and so we already fail. So let’s just farm champs now. Defeat won’t affect the world anyways.”

Very badly made. Even worst than Teq. People may like it because its champs gives good loot. But loots aside this event is badly done.

GW2 really need to introduce organized enemy armies. We have plenty of mindless and leaderless enemy swarms already. Battles should be “waves after waves” of enemies, not “running from portal to portal”.

@ perilisk.1874

The Lore Slayer is not Lyssa. Using technology to create illusions is not the same as magic. That illusion barrier around the Tower of Nightmare is all technology imo.

If the Lore Slayer is Lyssa, we would already be dead.

Most of my ideas has already been posted in this thread here. Please read mine and other players ideas here:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/lwd/How-would-you-make-LS-better

I would like to expand on the idea of “World Events”. Teq is the first World Event ever created in GW2. TBH, it was poorly implemented. Players had to face massive queues. And the spawn rate of Teq was way too slow, forcing players to queue up for hours before the event.

Many also view Teq as too hard. Players on those healing cannons don’t know what they are doing. Players didn’t protect cannons to they got destroyed.

But I cannot stress one point enough. PLAYERS DO NOT HATE WORLD EVENTS!!!

Nope, they do not. They hate Teq because it was poorly implemented.

Firstly, you guys in Anet have to fix the queue problem. And then you have to increase the spawn rate of Teq (or other world events). This is a technical side that I cannot help much with.

Now let’s talk about the gameplay in World Event itself. This I can help.

Firstly, world events must have an affect on the existing world. If they don’t, then this world isn’t living. Having a world that actually changes is the core concept of world events. I am glad to see this new Tower of Nightmares actually changing the world. Hopefully we get more of this in the future.

Secondly, when players talk about World Events, they are not talking about Teq. They are talking about this:

And this:

And this:

And this:

What’s the common theme here?

War.

Yes, its war. Players want war when they talk about World Events. They want wars that will change the history; Change Tyria, Elona and Cantha forever.

And war is what you guys in Anet should give us players. Not Teq. Triumphing over 1,000s of enemies is much sweeter than killing one dragon underling.

Of course, when the battle scales so large, friendly NPCs would need to help in some of the battles. For example the players are placed on the left flank, and that’s all they need to worry about. The allied NPCs would take care of center and right flank.

Scarlet X2

“Prepare for trouble, and make it double.”

O_O

I agree. All these skins should be made obtainable by completing world events (like Teq) instead.

Teq is a badly implemented event. But when better world events arrives, please get rid of the collectable farming and instead give player reward for world events.

If you want staff, scepter and warhorn, you have to kill Teq 3 times, for example.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Next month: An unholy alliance between the Skritt and the Ettins. Who could possibly be behind this Dumb Alliance? Who could it be? Who could it POSSIBLY be?!

Skritts riding Ettins to form a cavalry force? Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Guys please stop calling Scarlet by her name. She shall from now on be known as the Lore Slayer, or Slayer of Lores. Her lore slaying deeds are legendary. Kneel down and beg for mercy! :P

shocking.3269:

I reckon Caithe was actually the first to enter the nightmare and recruited Faolain and the others only to reject it condemning the others to it.

And Faolain doesn’t know this how?

Oh of course! Scarlet erased Faolain’s memories on this so she forgot!

So its pretty much confirmed that the Lore Slayer did it. She was the one behind the Snakes and Salads (SS) alliance.

The only saving grace so far is that the NPCs in the game talks about how this alliance doesn’t make sense. So hopefully they can come up with an good explanation later on.

I agree with Konig. The next update will make or break the lore about Kraits.

Give players with higher WvW levels a priority in queues. A level 150 WvW player should have a chance to get into the map faster than someone only leveled 23. That means you better play if you don’t want to suffer from queues.

This should be done by some kind of random chance system.

Example. Let’s say there are 2 guy waiting in queue for a borderland. Player 1 was the first to join the queue. Player 2 join after.

Player 1: Level 67
Player 2: Level 100

The combined level of player 1 and player 2 is 167. Since 100/167=60%, there is a 60% chance that player 2 will overtake player 1 in the queue, when player 2 press the join button.

Now let’s say there is already 5 players in a queue, when player 6 joins in. Player 6 is level 120.

Player 1: Level 67
Player 2: Level 100
Player 3: Level 23
Player 4: Level 45
Player 5: Level 12

Player 6 will first fight player 5 for the queue. Since 120/132=91%, there is a 91% chance that player 6 will overtake player 5 in the queue.

Assume that player 6 successfully take over player 5’s spot. He will be fighting against player 4 next. Since 120/165=73%, there is a 75% chance that player 6 will overtake player 4 in the queue.

Assume that player 6 got bad luck and he didn’t take over player 4, his spot will stop there. Here will be the new queue.

Player 1: Level 67
Player 2: Level 100
Player 3: Level 23
Player 4: Level 45
Player 6: Level 120
Player 5: Level 12

Player 6 have no idea how many players he beat in the queue. So re-queuing is meaningless. A high level player cannot abuse this by keep re-queuing. But having a higher WvW level does improve his chances of having a shorter queue.

To implement this system, the WvW ranking must be shared for all characters in a player’s account.

A newbie WvWer on a high population server will be stuck in hours long queues. This, combined with discounts for going into a low population server (or even free gems), will temp many players to move to a low population server. This will eventually achieve server balance.

Kaleban.9834:

Heinel.6548:

This is making less sense by the word. A character that is smarter than everyone is a genius, not a Mary Sue. Otherwise, every major Asuran character would be a Mary Sue.

While most Mary Sues are portrayed as intelligent, that is because high intelligence is a desirable trait. Mary Sues are characterized as someone who is idealized to the point of being unrealistic. It takes more than just generic “smarts” for that.

Ok, look into Scarlet’s backstory. She’s smarter than every Asuran genius. She’s better at every race’s “hat” than the entire race itself. She has perfect tactical and strategic awareness. Even the efforts of the players seemingly work into her grand and vast designs.

While the term Mary Sue may originally have meant someone who is perfect AND the supporting cast idealized her for it (see also: The Wesley) in common vernacular it has come to mean any extremely overpowered character that is better than everyone else at everything.

If you’re going to keep arguing the opposite, at least know the character you’re arguing over first.

This, the fact that everyone loves her.

One of the most mind blowing thing about Scarlet is that while she was in Asuran college, no one hated her.

As you guys can see in Asuran culture, it is very common for Asurans to compete against each other to see who has higher intelligence. In fact this is promoted and socially accepted.

If Scarlet is as smart as the story say she is, and combined with her “show off” personality", she will be the most hated person in the whole Asuran sociality. Everyone single self-respecting Asura in her classes will be challenging her left right center. She will have to battle against everyone across all 3 colleges.

And that’s the Asurans with high moral. Evil Asurans will go even further and bully her in every chance they get. They will sabotage her projects. They will burn down her apartment to delay her work. They will use fireworks outside of her room every night to disrupt her sleep. etc

It is literally impossible for someone as smart and as show-off as Scarlet to be liked in Asuran sociality. She will be hated by everyone, if we follow the Asuran lore.

Another GW2 lore slain by Scarlet. The “Lore Slayer” continues her work. :P

Wizard’s Tower.

Livia, just like a White Wizard, will return at preciously the moment she is needed to protect Kryta.

Long story short, Mursaat betrayed the other races during an ancient fight against the elder dragons. Glint saved some of them by hiding them. The Seers declared war against the Mursaats, but the Seers were annihilated instead.

The Flame Seeker Prophecies, by Glint, is pretty much a curses against the Mursaat. It was Glint’s revenge against the Mursaat for their betrayal.

The Titans are servants of Abaddon. They were probably created during Abaddon’s war against the other 5 gods. They also demonstrated intelligent. It is unknown why they would want the Mursaats dead. But they do, seemingly independent of Glint.

Mursaats were afraid of the prophecy, so they made the soul batteries to protect the seals.

The players broke though the barrier for the soul batteries. The Lich, with the Scepter of Orr, broke the seals and released the Titans.

Most of the Titans went straight after the Mursaats and killed most of them. The players sneaked around and kill the Lich.

During the War in Kryta, the players killed the remaining Mursaats in Kryta. The few Mursaats that survived went into hiding.

1) A bunch of random villains allied with each other for an unknown reason.
2) It was Scarlet.

Korossive.7085:

Release in China > Lore. Go grind and leave us alone.

Asians enjoy good stories too.

The problem with Scarlet is that this is “her personal story”, not ours. Yup that’s right. This whole section of story is about her.

Think about it. From Molten Alliance to Teq, when has the story ever been about us? What is our objectives? We got none. What did we achieve? Nothing. Scarlet is the main character, and the whole world revolves around her, and that’s what kitten everyone off.

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

If Mursaat come back, though. Well, you think people whine about needing Ascended gear now? I can practically guarantee that they’ll have Agony attacks.

None of the players in GW2 are infused. So they will die as soon as they see the Mursaat. But this would be a perfect opportunity to re-introduce Livia. She is infused and has fought Mursaats before. Now she must be stronger than 300 years ago.

Salads & Snakes (SS).

Fallout.1798:

Durzlla.6295:

I’d say with how many people hate scarlet that she’s doing a good job as a villain

If people really hate Scarlet so much, I say prove it. Go do the Scarlet Invasions, and actually go for wining the invasions and taking down Scarlet. If all you want to do at invasions is farm the aetherblades than that just shows you don’t care about Scarlet or you think she’s just fine.
So yea, I dare you. Do a Scarlet Invasion the way you are suppose to, and win it.

You win the invasion? 30 minutes later Scarlet comes back with even more men.

Durzlla.6295:

I love how people seem to think that NC and the other hostile factions are above alliances, the Sinister Triad is kinda a big deal (NC, Inquest and Bandits), not to mention Bandits and mother kittening Centaurs have an alliance yet NO ONE has kittened about those 2 races who have completely hated the other and wanted mass genocide of the other for well over 250 years are in an alliance yet god forbid some of the dredge and flame legion teamed up…

Because NC hates Kraits. And Kraits hates everyone.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dream_and_Nightmare

Together, they crept down onto the beach and into the ruins, and there, they found their quarry. Cadeyrn’s sword cleaved a krait in two with a single stroke. He spun the weapon expertly behind his back, blocking another creature’s claw before snapping down to slice away the extended hand. A krait sorceress’s unblinking eyes widened as she wove a thaumaturgic web of slaughter, and two of the sylvari died in her flame. Fiercely, Cadeyrn leapt[sic] toward her, his blade tearing through the krait’s flesh.

He left nothing behind but scale and scream.

When the krait were dead, Niamh and Cadeyrn stood in the center of the ruined chapel, blood on their blades and fierce smiles lighting their faces. A sound caught his attention, and he raised a hand for silence, slipping forward to the place where he had seen movement from above.

Cadeyrn tilted the altar aside, and the sound grew louder. Beneath the stone lay a cave, long ago flooded by the advance of the sea. There, in a sea-cavern below the ruins, krait lay in hiding, unperturbed by the icy waters. But these were not warriors. This was a hatchery, filled with krait eggs and terrified young.

He raised his sword to continue the extermination—

“Cadeyrn!” Niamh said sharply.

Cadeyrn paused, looking up at the leader of his Cycle in confusion.

“Leave them.”

“But…they are krait.”

“They are children.”

“Children.” He frowned, for the word had little meaning. “You mean ‘they are small.’ They are small, but they are krait. They will grow up to be large krait, and then we will kill them. Why not kill them now, when it is easy and they are undefended? It seems the wisest course of action. Otherwise, we risk losing more sylvari lives when these return fully grown.”

“We must take that risk, to give them a chance to change their ways,” the firstborn said. “All things have a right to grow. The blossom is brother to the weed.” Soberly, she put away her sword and pushed the altar back. Beneath it, Cadeyrn could hear the snakes scrambling, splashing away into the ocean tide.

“Again the firstborn quote the Tablet when I ask for logic.” He growled beneath his breath. “I do not agree.”

I don’t hate her because she is a bad villain. No harm no foul there. I hate her because she is lore breaking.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/lore/Scarlet-Slayer-of-Lores/

I also think Anet puts too much emphasis on attrition, and not nearly enough on what it even means to be a necromancer. Unlike in GW1, we can no longer curse, summon minion army or sacrifice health for major benefits.

Might as well call us attritionmancer.

spoj.9672:

I wouldnt say aoe condi removal was a necro strength. Guardians and mesmers could do it with low cooldowns and mesmer can do it even better since aoe mantras. Also fairly sure its pve only. But i suppose it could be available in WvW. Which would be a problem. It wont be better than consume.

Consume Condition will probably be still better if you just want to heal yourself. But in WvW it should be obvious that Antitoxin Spray is better. It is a AoE healing + condition removal.

I can already see what the commanders will do.
“Water field, blast, Antitoxin Spray”

Antitoxin Spray is also better than the Well of Blood. Well of Blood casts a light field which ruins the water field. Antitoxin Spray do not leave behind a light field.

They could of course give Antitoxin Spray a recharge of 120 seconds or something. But then this new skill would be useless.

Anyone else worried about this new skill from the next Living Story?

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/october-29-2013/

“Antitoxin Spray
Prepare for battle with a new universal healing skill! A dose of this cutting-edge Antitoxin Spray will cleanse yourself and nearby allies of poison, torment, confusion, and toxin. This skill is available to characters of all professions.”

WvW really doesn’t need anymore condition removals. Why does Anet continue to hate on conditions? Now everyone gets a healing skill that’s better than Consume Conditions in WvW (because this new one heal allies, not just yourself).

We are already screwed over by that 25 bleed cap. Isn’t that enough torture?

It also screw necros over in PvE, specially dungeons. AoE condition removal used to be one of the necro’s strengths. Now everyone and their mothers can AoE remove condition.

No need for mobility. All necro need is a 1 second immunity when they enter DS. This alone will fix everything in high level dungeons.

Boss one hit kill attack? No endurance? No speed? No dash? No problem I can survive by going into DS at the right time.

WvW is all about AoE. DS does not offer even one AoE ranged attack. DS 4 doesn’t count at all. When is the last time your DS4 don’t get interrupted in a zerg fight?

I had posted a ton of ideas on DS before. Too lazy to repeat what I said.

Also, the villain in Chronicles is a great example.

The problem with “Scarlet did it” is that it is similar to “aliens did it”. Its pretty much forcing it down the viewer’s throats. There is no logic, history or lore behind it.

For a voodoo, E.T. and ghost documentary it is fine. No one take those stuff seriously anyways. But when it comes to fictional storytelling, it is just very badly done. It means the author have ran out of ideas. And that’s the worrisome part.

1) As for Krait allying with NC, firstly it is impossible from the lore’s stand point. Kraits will enslave, eat and sacrifice any other races they found. They don’t waste time talking at all. Sure the writer can change all that and say the old lore no longer applies. None of us viewers can stop him.

But then you got to ask, what’s the point of us keeping track of the lore then? If the writer can come out tomorrow and turn around any lore they want 180 degrees, what’s the point of having lore at all?

2) Secondly, even if by some miracle the Kraits allied with NC, why must Scarlet be involved? Can’t any villain group in the GW2 universe make up their own freaking mind without the help of this outsider?

3) Thirdly and most importantly, the whole world revolves around Scarlet. And this will slay any lore. Ok this might not hit home for you, so I will explain it again.

Everyone in GW2 are bounded by some kind of limits and rules of this world. For example a single Skritt is not as smart as a single Asura, for example. But multiple Skritts are smarter than multiple Asuras. That’s the rule of their race. That’s the lore. That’s the story that we, lore fans, go by.

Suddenly Scarlet comes out and genetically modify the Skritts, so now they are smarter than Asuras one on one, and even smarter in a group. Not only this, Skritts are now all as big as Norns and stronger than Magni the Bison. They also got increased breeding and growing rates so now their population is 20 times as large as before.

Why would this happen? Well Skritts wants power so they allied with Scarlet. Each time a lore is broken, that race’s lust for power and Scarlet’s silver tongue explains everything away.

Once again lore is slayed by Scarlet. This whole GW2 world revolves around Scarlet, not the other way around like it is for other people. Scarlet have no laws, rules or limits. She herself is the law, rule and limit of this world.

Scarlet is the Queen and Creator of all Reapers. It all make sense now!

Here is an idea of mine since GW1. (you can see where the idea of Erinyes came from. ^^) Maybe there is something here they can use in GW2.

What if a guy like Verata actually wants good for humanity?

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Verata_the_Necromancer

Everyone knows how limiting The Order of Necromancers (Order of Mages) are. You can’t do this, you can’t do that.

Verata set out to break those limits and rules. His goal is to make humanity powerful enough to defend itself against the Charr threat. However power is not free and sacrifices are needed. And hence the Order went after him.

In GW Beyond, the Order finally set out to kill Verata once and for all.

Verata: “You fools! In the face of the looming Charr threat, you come all the way out here after me? Get out of here at once and defend Ascalon for a while longer. My experiments are almost finished here. Then we will finally defeat the Charr.”
Order Mages: “You broke the law. You capture humans for your experiments.”
Verata: “Without these few sacrifices, all of Ascalon will be destoryed.”
Order Mages: “You must be killed. That is justice.”

Both sides took huge losses, but Verata was eventually killed.

Verata: “Your justice will be the doom of Ascalon. You will have more blood on your hands, a lot more, than I ever had.”

After Verata’s death, a large scale witch hunt by the Order ensured. They would search house to house for Verata followers. Some innocents were killed by mistakes. Others were killed when political families use this opportunity to get rid of old rivals. The Order’s forces were stretched thin and took further losses when they face Verata’s followers.

The end result was the near mutual destruction of the Order and Verata’s followers.

When the Charr invasion reaches Ascalon City, the Order barely had any men left. They all perished, and the Order cease to exist altogether. Come GW2’s time, very few know the Order of Mages ever existed.

Verata’s legacy live on with the few of his followers, and their descendants. Some aim to protect humanity from the shadows. Others are blinded by hate and anger, and aim for revenge. With the Order gone, their foes are those that limits magic with foolish rules and laws.

Why not have the Pact (yes, that’s us) ally with Scarlet? Maybe we somehow agree to giving up Queen Jennah to Scarlet as a sacrifice or playmate, because Scarlet have a way to kill all elder dragons. Logan of course disagrees, but we end up killing him and all the rest of Destiny’s Edge.

Why not? Anything is possible with Scarlet.

JohnnyZen.6243:

Dark Storylines certainly have their place, yes, but too much darkness can lead to a story being overly depressing, drab, or just unpleasant. Take the mess that was Dragon Age: Origins for example: army of darkness that marches over the land; people constantly betray others and keep dying left and right; most of the (very few) survivors are either homeless, slaves, mindless, in the process of dying, or fighting for a world that’s barely worth saving, honestly. Besides the romance scenes, name more than one happy moment in that game. I don’t want my game to be dark and brooding…

Otherwise I would’ve played RIFT for more than 10 minutes

Well, a dark world can be balanced by sarcastic humor. It wouldn’t feel so bad.

lordkrall.7241:

CHIPS.6018:

You are trying to apply human logic to the Kraits. The kraits see ALL other races as food and sacrifices. Nothing more.

So just because they are Krait they must be stupid?

I doubt they would kill everything they saw if they managed to figure out another way to use them in order to help with their bringing back the Prophet.

Lore will be killed. Would Germany in 1939 ally with “inferior” Jews? That’s the story that they would have to sell to the players.

If the story writer does go this route, I think we can all officially consider lore dead. It is really pointless to keep track of the lore when the writers can change them tomorrow like lore never existed.

Tomorrow Separatists will ally with Renegades. Because why not? Let’s ally to kill the good guys first, and then continue to fight each over over Ascalon.

Many players have complained about Teq. The problems range from it being too difficult to massive queues.

But most players a missing the biggest problem, that Teq is a badly designed world event. I will explain why.

What exactly is a world event? That means the whole world is involved. World events are not dungeons, where it is “a few adventurers vs a few mobs”. It is not dynamatic events, which happens every 30 minutes and then repeat itself.

World Events are wars. They are history changing. They last a maximum of 1 week. The results will forever be written in history books.

Humans lost to centaurs in this battle? Well then they forever lost to centaurs in this particular battle. That’s history. That’s what happened. History will never be the same after this.

So what do I mean? First, watch this video from Rome Total War II.

I want to make it clear that this is one example. This is not the only way to do World Events. But these are some fruits for thought.

What I got from this:

1) An huge army of allied NPCs and enemies NPCs were already fighting. That’s the main battle.
2) Players lead a small team to help. Their first task was to kill the enemy sieges from behind.
3) At the main battle, Players engage the right flank of the enemy (only a small, specific portion).
4) Cutscenes explaining the current situation. (from a respected commander, who oversees the whole battle.)
5) Cutscenes explaining the next mission objective. (from a respected commander, who oversees the whole battle.)
6) World Events should be done on an alternative server/map.

Why is this important?

1) In major world events, the players cannot be the only ones fighting. The players are adventurers. They are not part of the army. That’s why it is important for ally NPCs to fight in world events.
2) The 70 players involved in world events are considered one squad. Their size is tiny compared to the army of 1,000s of NPCs. So the players are better fit in spec-ops. In this case, going behind the enemy front and kill their siege weapons.
3) The players are asked to engage only a small, specific section of the enemy force. The NPCs will deal with the rest.
4) Cutscenes explaining the dire situation makes the world event more epic.
5) Cutscenes are a great way to show the players what they need to do next.
6) I think Anet wants to avoid interfering with new players. That’s why they are very hesitant to make major changes to existing pve maps. If that’s the case, why not make brand new alternative map altogether.

For example let’s say there is a battle inside Lion’s Arch. Why not make new maps for this city? Lion’s Arch in the alternative map can have NOTHING to do with the Lion’s Arch in the real world. In the alternative map the city can be HUGE. It can be a mega city.

The main point is the make the game play great and atmosphere epic. That’s all the players care about tbh.

Example of city size: (e.g. During Cantha’s sea invasion against Lion’s Arch)

The players winning to losing the battle of Lion’s Arch will have an affect on that story. But new players won’t be affected? Why? Because it is set in an alternative Lion’s Arch that doesn’t even look like the Lion’s Arch on the world map.

Let’s say the players lose. Then by history, Lion’s Arch is indeed destroyed. That is what happened because the players failed. But back in the real world, Lion’s Arch remains the same, because the timeline hasn’t happen yet there.

So there we have it. Everyone is happy. Lion’s Arch is destroyed as per story. But everyone can still access Lion’s Arch as if nothing happened.

Wizard’s Tower is a major lore item. I rather they take the time to make it great. But yes its been 8 years.

lordkrall.7241:

Why would it be a “poisonous plot twist” when it is something that is quite logical to do?
Krait are not stupid, and they would do anything to make their Prophet return, and I don’t doubt they would use Nightmare Court in order to achieve that if necessary.

You are trying to apply human logic to the Kraits. The kraits see ALL other races as food and sacrifices. Nothing more.

To Kraits, it is illogical to ally with food and sacrifices.

Kraits sees Nightmare Court members=Nightmare Court members gets sacrificed. That’s the extent of their relationship.

Krait found their own Pale Tree seed. That’s what happened.