Guild Wars 2

glaphen.5230:

ArmageddonAsh.6430:

Julie Yann.5379:

@glaphen Also, anybody running full zerk in large scale fights is nothing more than a rally bot. It might be fine for roaming and duels but once the blobs collide you are nothing more than a liability.

Depending on class it isnt even viable as a roamer, Necromancer being an example. While they may do more damage they come with no where near the number of defenses as all other classes come with. Hell, we don’t even have ANY access to Vigor.

Just because you are a bad Necromancer and a bad player does not mean other are.

Even guys like Nemesis, which had defended necro and try to help other players for a long period of time, is giving up on the necro class. I will take his opinion over yours any day.

Are necromancers balanced right now? Who cares anymore! I hasn’t logged into the game for like 4 weeks since the Mark of Blood nerf. This is my protest.

You see, it is not so much the 33% damage nerf to Mark of Blood that broke my heart. It is the principle of nerfing MoB because of Dhuumfire that I cannot stand.

I had been playing Necro since GW1 beta. I played though the whole Winds of Change in hard mode on my necro, with heroes, before it got made easier. I was a witness to Mhenlo agreeing to marry Cynn, while in the middle of battling the MoP. My necro wields the final and ultimate staff of the game, Xan Hei’s Resolve.

And now this 300 years old necromancer, ancient friend of Gwen, eternal defender of Ascalon is truly heart broken. >_>

I skipped the whole Fractured! and the whole Winder’s Day celebration, and I couldn’t care less. :P

It is not worth investing any money into necromancer right now. All our builds are 1 or 2 nerfs away from being made useless. And these nerfs are coming up in January.

Torment and Dhuumfire are probably going to be nerfed in the same update.

If you are coming back, please DO NOT play a necromancer. Stay as far away from necromancer as you can.

I love necromancer. Been playing one since GW1 beta. But listen to me; stay away!

Working as intended. This isn’t a nerf. :P

Necros are immortal. They just pay $2 silver and way point.

Don’t worry guys! By lore Livia is the strongest human alive, and she is a necromancer. Some of her magic is bound to trickle down to us eventually.

Why so few opinions? It is obvious that sPvP isn’t working out. And WvW’s 24 hour schedule is slowly killing this game. Going MOBA is the way to go imo.

Elder Dragons are intelligent, as shown by Zhaitan and Kralkatorrik. They also hate each other. We have seen their minions killing each other.

The future lore cannot be predicted. But having Elder Dragons fight each other would make an interesting story.

I would go one step further. I want to see Kralkatorrik offering peace to the human kingdom, specifically Ebonhawke. Kralk is weakened by Destiny’s Edge. So just like Loki, Kralk must rely on trickery and planning to get ahead.

Madness? Hardly.

It is obvious that the Charrs will eventually come after the humans again once all the Elder Dragons are dead. Wars and battle are the nature of the Charrs. Maybe not this particular generation. But who can guarantee peace between the Humans and the Charrs for the next 500 years?

Logan Thackeray will be against this alliance due to the death of Snaff. But Queen Jennah, Anise and Commander Samuelsson will support it. This will begin a split between the two lovers, one that they can never return from. Two lovers caught in two different sides of the political world; great drama.

It will also slowly transforms Logan Thackeray into an anti-hero. Caudecus will temporarily side with Thackeray and his Charr allies to overthrow Queen Jennah’s rule. Caudecus will later betray Thackeray because Caudecus actually hates the Charrs. He was just using Thackeray as a tool to overthrow Queen Jennah, so Caudecus can become king over all humans.

The drama goes on and on. Who will win? Who will die? Which side will the players support?

This thread is about the possibility of collaborators in the GW2 universe. This group will be the most hated people, due to their betrayal of the fellow countrymen.

In history, whenever a country gets overrun, there were always collaborators that betrays his/her own nation and work with the enemy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pursuit_of_kitten_collaborators
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanjian

For example we know that Kraits enslave all other races they encountered. So is it possible that the Kraits will make use of collaborators to enslave their own race? These Charrs, humans, Norns, Asurans and Sylvaris will act as slave masters on behalf of the Krait. Furthermore these collaborators will form up fighting units to assist the Kraits. They will also help the Kraits in capturing more slaves.

Why would anyone do this? There can be many reasons. Their whole family maybe in captive by the Krait, for example. Other may see collaborating with the Krait as a way to gain personal power or even as a basis for a revolution. It is obvious that not everyone is in love with his original government.

If such units of collaborators exists they should follow the examples of Ustase.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ustase

This will further darken the theme of the Krait. Now they are truly an army of pure evil of murderers, slavers and traitors.

Other than Kraits, there can be collaborators of other enemies of the Pact.

Elder Dragon collaborators for example, are people who are not corrupted by the Elder Dragons but chooses to work with Elder Dragons.

Mursaat collaborators are humans who are not part of the White Mantles but choose to work with the Mursaats.

There can be many other examples.

Konig I am not against bad things after good things. I was pointing out how quickly it happens one after another. In my 3 examples (all 3 are big events), the bad events happens literally within days of the good event.

I think Anet should adapt a turn-based model of this system, so it isn’t as obvious. They got to put some time distance between the good events and the directly linked bad events. Something like:

Good Event A
Good Event B
Bad Event A
Good Event C
Bad Event B
Bad Event C

Elochai.1280:

Naming it anything with another games name is a bad idea. Call it wvw:moba if you must. You’d have to significantly change classes gear and skills. It’d almost be like making a new game. A net might as well just charge for a gw2 large scale moba.

K I fixed it. TBH I am surprised that the name of the topic is more important than the topic itself. :P

I notice a recurring theme of GW2’s story, especially for the humans. Every time something good happens, it must be followed by something terrible. Its so consistent that I bet the people in Kryta no longer want any good events to happen. It will surely be followed by something a thousand times worst.

Ebonhawke Asuran gate is fixed and they want to celebrate? Kralkatorrik awakes!

Dragon Bash celebration? Comes the Aetherblades!

Queen’s Jubilee? Comes Scarlet and Clockwork Chaos!

As you can see, every single celebration is followed closely by disasters and invasions.

GW1 was super alt-character friendly and it survived for 7 years. It was reasonably easy to find party members for missions for a long period of time.

GW2 is not alt-character friendly at all and it is not doing well. We have tons of dead zones in the low level areas.

Have No Faith In Me.1840:

They’re not RPG’s.

Still not sure how any of that invalidates the 3C nametag except for the age of the OP.

Sir, did you just insulted my age?

The Super Teq should be made into a 70 player instance. If the players can gather 70 players to do it then they can all join that instance.

The regular Teq should return to the world map for the not-so-organized players to kill.

Have No Faith In Me.1840:

Covis.6037:

Gooby pliz… Point of this thread is not whats the origin of dota type of games….

I think there will be alot of population problems with this, u will never have enough players on lower servers.

Credit due to those who deserve credit.

Frankly LoL is a plague on games, just like Call of Noobys.

LOL and DOTA2 are the top RPG Esport games out there. And tbh they are fun. Their format works, that’s why they are successful.

http://www.esportsearnings.com/players

Covis.6037:

Have No Faith In Me.1840:

I’m just going to point out that league of legends is a rip off of DotA1, which was a rip off of 3 Corridors (3C and DotA 1 were both Warcraft 3 custom maps). If 3 Corridors ripped it’s concept off something else, let me know.

So please rename this hilarious thread and all associated names to WvW3C for accuracy, your stolen idea is more like 3C than DotA 1 or LoL anyway.

Gooby pliz… Point of this thread is not whats the origin of dota type of games….

I think there will be alot of population problems with this, u will never have enough players on lower servers.

The teams are not server limited. Guilds can team up with whoever they like. A BG guild can team up with a SOS guild and a SBI guild, for example.

Server lag doubt post. ^^

Before I say anything else, I want to be clear that the original WvW format will not be removed. It will stay as it always has been.

Another thing, please do not move this thread to suggestions. Very few ever read that section of the forums.

I want a serious discussion on adding a new WvW format that’s similar to League of Legends. I will call it WvWLOL. ^^

WvWLOL will be a new format that is introduced to encourage Guild vs Guild battles. It does not affect WvW score at all. Its main purpose to replace sPvP as the Esport outlet of GW2.

I am not going to write a long paragraph describing what LOL is. I am sure most of you guys already know how to play LOL. If not, please watch this video here to get an idea.

Here is how WvWLOL will be different from WvW:

-there is no random pugs in WvWLOL. All members on a team are hand picked. Although there will be an option to allow random join for casual matches.
-no fortresses. All fights are open field.
-no siege weapons.
-1 map only, with 70 players on each side (70 vs 70)
-when the match ends there will be a winner and a loser. There is no 24 hour clock.
-friendly mobs will spawn from home base and attack toward the enemy base, with the 3 main paths.
-killing an enemy player or a special mob will gain benefits, like bonus stats or ability to buy WvW:LOL items for that match.

Here is how i envision a match will be:
-20 players will go to each of the 3 main paths. Each group of 20 will usually be a guild group that’s very comfortable in fighting beside each other. (60 in total)
-10 players in 2 havoc teams will go to the side paths (10 in total)
-the number of players in each area will increase and decrease throughout the match. Team cooperation will be very important.

Without going into further details, what do you guys generally feel about this? This will be a 3rd person view, more numerous version of LOL. ^^

Here is his video on the Dec 10 update, for those of you that hasn’t seen it.

If the mods would mod their threads as a player, instead of as our parents, they would have a much easier time.

Fenre do you really believe that this peace with the Charr will last beyond the death of the last Elder Dragon?

The way I see it there is no risk. No matter what the humans do, the Charrs must wait until the defeat of the final Elder Dragon before fighting against the humans again. They got no choice, no matter how angry they are at the humans.

USA and USSR were friends during WWII. That’s how it works. Politics.

If people like me were wrong and this peace does last, the defensive work in Ebonhawke doesn’t hurt anybody. Defensive constructions cannot be used to attack. They will never be a threat to the Charrs, if they keep their promise of peace.

They don’t have to call it anti tank trenches. They can just call them trenches, which would be useful against Elder Dragon minions. There are always ways around it. Its just politics.

At the end of the day, humans are only building defensive constructions. The Charrs are building offensive war machines. Who is the aggressor here?

Wizard’s Tower.

/thread

Being civilized have nothing to do with being aggressive. In fact the more civilized you are, the more likely you are going to win against your foes.

Egypt – very civilized. Attacked the people around them.
Persians – very civilized. Attacked the people around them.
China – very civilized. Attacked the people around them.
Roman – very civilized. Attacked the people around them.
Britain – very civilized. Attacked all underdeveloped races in the world.

The problem when you talk to non necromancers about necromancers is, all they see is Dhuumfire. They don’t know anything else about the necromancer except for Dhuumfire. And since Dhuumfire necromancer is very strong, it is very hard to convince non necromancers that there are many major issues with the necromancer.

Let’s get one thing straight right from the start: 80-90% of the necromancer players wants Dhuumfire totally removed. No one likes it, necro or non necro players. This trait is broken, and everyone knows it.

The way I see it DS is hopelessly broken. And worst of all it is one of the most boring mechanic in the whole game. I say just scrap the whole thing and rebuild from the ground.

For example, change DS into fight with spirits. This is a much more appealing and cooler mechanic than the current boring and broken DS.

We feel the necromancers are too powerful in pve right now. We have seen many cases where a necro is able to solo FoTM level 70 in less than 5 minutes. We feel the biggest reason is the communication between fellow necromancers. They always talk and share their secrets and builds. Because of the average necromancer’s wisdom and superior game playing abilities, it is very hard for the balance team to balance the necromancers.

To prevent further communications between necromancers, we decided to remove the necromancer forums starting next January. From here on, any post with the words “necromancers”, “Necro” or “Nec” will be banned and the violator banned from the game forever. This ban applies to any Anet forum moderators.

We hope this will make it easier to balance the necromancer profession. We hope you enjoy the game!

(this forum moderator has been banned for saying the word “necromancer”.)

(the second forum moderator was also banned for saying the you know what word.)

lakdav.3694:

We should find a way to prevent her from getting away again. Im sure it will be written into the initial final release with her. Or i hope so. I wouldnt want my victory spoiled by the uncomfortable question “Why couldnt/didnt we do this earlier?”

Like the Great Eagles? :P

http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Eagles

No I don’t want the alliances to turn on Scarlet. No I don’t want to “just” kill her. That will be too light of a punishment for the Lore Slayer.

I want to find out what Scarlet cared about. I want to find out who she loves. I want to find out what her dreams are. And when I do, I will crush and destory everything she cared, loved and dreamt about. And as she sit there crying, powerless to stop me, I will kill her. She must know the extent of her failures before she dies. Only then, will my rage toward the Lore Slayer be subdued.

Another thing that should be done: Conscription. Not everyone have to be on active duty all the time. But every civilian inside Ebonhawke must be fully trained, so in times of need they can defend their city.

Only the very old and very young should make use of the Last Stand Shelter in times of war.

Oldbugga.7029:

I have been involved in many situations of “conflict” in my working life and the approach they are taking with the necro by simply stonewalling is a common one. It will NOT improve the situation at all.

The necro community has done everything possible, everything, to get the right information to the devs and for what? We get NOTHING in return except silence and seemingly random, disjoint ,directionless changes and nerfs without explanation. No wonder we are upset…but staying silent and continually appeasing their treatment of us will NOT get anywhere like it hasn’t done to date.

And they already have all the money I will spend with this company so voting with the mouth is all I have in that scenario.

Vote with “not logging in for 2 months” is the better option. That’s what I am planning to do. :P

While there are very few MMOs that offers WvW out there right now, there are plenty of other games to play. I still hasn’t played Mass Effect 3 and Rome: Total War 2, for example.

All mobs are now immune to bleeding and poison.

Rennoko.5731:

Oldbugga.7029:

I have been involved in many situations of “conflict” in my working life and the approach they are taking with the necro by simply stonewalling is a common one. It will NOT improve the situation at all.

The necro community has done everything possible, everything, to get the right information to the devs and for what? We get NOTHING in return except silence and seemingly random, disjoint ,directionless changes and nerfs without explanation. No wonder we are upset…but staying silent and continually appeasing their treatment of us will NOT get anywhere like it hasn’t done to date.

And they already have all the money I will spend with this company so voting with the mouth is all I have in that scenario.

A wise person once told me your boss will pay you as little as possible to keep you from quitting. He won’t pay you enough to make you happy or enough even to make you content. He will shoot to pay you just the right amount that keeps you from quitting. That sweet spot is where he gets the best return for his money, and he continues to have your employment.

Not necessarily a true statement, and a very cynical view of the world, but a valid argument can be made. The way Anet deals with the forums is in this manner. They will throw you a bone only after you start nawing off their leg. If you sit back and bark, they will just ignore you.

As a non-subscription game it is much harder to make your presence felt. Stop spending time and money in game and in the gem shop is about all you can do, and the very large, non-forum going majority will continue to plod along happy and unaware. There are far too many optimistic folks who will hold on hope the game will get better right up till the moment they purchase that next game. They know this and will take it all the way to the bank.

In that scenario, by the time that said employee find a new job and walks, it is too late.

It is the same in GW2. By the time the customers find a new game and walks, it is too late. Everyone know it is much easier to keep existing customers than marketing to find new ones.

Bhawb.7408:

Actually ANet has owned up to their mistakes quite a few times.

But posting as a dev is absolutely dangerous. Not because of people complaining back at them (and realize that devs get far more hate back, and they are still people), but because everything said is taken as a promise; a promise to do what they said, how the person hearing it wants it to be done, and in the very next patch.

If they came on and said
“Sorry guys, we really messed up on implementing SoV, and we realize that the skill just isn’t up to the standards we should have as a dev team. We’re going to look at ways to bring this skill up to par, and we’ll go from there.”

What 95% of the forums would hear is:
“We kittened up, we suck. We are going to completely fix SoV by the very next patch and make it every bit as awesome as you want it to be. This includes implementing every single little feature that you want on it, how you want it, and with the numbers you want.”

Not only that, but they would then have to say that to every, single subforum that feels their skill isn’t up to par (aka, every subforum), otherwise there will be 7 forums in complete uproar, and 1 forum in only a mild uproar. Oh, and god forbid that they aren’t able to fix the skill immediately, and exactly how you want, because the fact that they posted now means that everything that does or does not happen is now their fault and WILL be used against them.

No, posting will not help them at all. It will only make things worse, if not right now, then in the not distant future. There is a reason developers of large games don’t post regularly except in very controlled environments, and its because it can and will very quickly make things many, many times worse than if they had just shut up.

But silence is the worst and the ultimate rejection. They don’t even care. >_>

Hickeroar.9734:

style.6173:

…there is smack talk and sure there are a few trolls.

The problem is that it wasn’t a bit of smack talk and a few trolls. It was almost ENTIRELY smack talk and trolling. Constructive and friendly posts were/are few and far between. I’d bet the vast majority of bannings across these forums came directly out of those threads.

Hockey players trash talk each other throughout the whole game. But right after the game they would sometimes go have a burger and drink together and laugh it off.

Trash talking is part of the game. No one takes it seriously and no one actually hate each other. If some people do, well they shouldn’kittens a game.

Anet, please listen to this fact:

It is much better for players to trash talk each other on this forum, than they private message trash talk each other in the game or on each other’s TeamSpeak. The “toxic” that you talked about on this forum are nothing compared to PMs. You got to allow room for players to let off their steams a bit sometimes.

Oozo.7856:

I’ve heard that they are disappointed in the Necromancer community and are considering removing the Necromancer Profession subforum like they are removing the WvW Matchup subforum.

Is this a threat?

Because if the devs comes in here now this will happen. :P

Anet: We feel that life stealing is too powerful. It very very very often tips the balance of the battle strongly in the necro’s favour. Necro is always about balance. We feel that life stealing must be balanced by the conditions already on the foe.

Life Stealing – now when you steal life from a foe, you immediately suffers from all the condition on the target you just hit. Stacks duration on you with each hit. You are drinking his blood, deal with it.

Just change Death Shroud into fighting with spirits and demons, like it was supposed to.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

CHIPS.6018:

I am kind of confused by the video. You are playing a necro but your skill bar are ranger skills. Either way nice work haha.

That’s one of my dead team mates recording it. You can see his ranger skillbar, but not mine, since I’m not the one recording it.

CHIPS.6018:

And finally, here was my ultimate necro build that I made to kill overpowered Winds of Change hardmode mobs. To all you GW2 necro kids that think we got attrition, think again! My necro 300 years ago was totally immune to conditions and hexes, and also made my whole party immune to conditions. Too crazy to be true? Watch how a GW1 S-Rank Category-5 necromancer destroy her foes. Witness our true power, that was lost from 300 years ago! XD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqxvFznjsB8

That’s sort of what I did with my build against Frost Maw, but just focused on myself, not the team. I could remove any hexes at will, heal myself (did not need a monk), provided my own damage reduction, and heavy sustained single target damage.

In GW1 you normally always needed a healer in your party, but there were ways around that. You could create a necromancer that could keep herself alive, without outside help.

Yeah, we were all unique back in GW1. We could really create some crazy builds. Good times. ^^

I wasn’t kidding when I said, by lore, one GW1 character can take on five or more GW2 characters at the same time. GW2 characters who learn skills from schools can never match the power of GW1 characters who learn skills from monsters and other ancient sources. GW2 characters are part of an army, while GW1 characters are elite heroes.

Erased Dhuumfire from history. This whole spell was an illusion created by Queen Jennah for fun to celebrate Halloween. Necromancers never could burn their foes. And Dhuum would never lend his power to humans.

Edusd.7893:

Attack ebonhawke AGAIN. Kralk already stopped by once to say hi, it would be a prudent thing to do even if for no other reasons.

It was an excuse. It doesn’t matter if the Elder Dragons actually attacks or not. Politics my friend. ^^

Server lag double post. :P

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

CHIPS.6018:

Back in GW1 I went around the weak damage of Life Stealing by being a Dark Aura bomber. I steal life and then throw those life away for damage. It was super high risk, but my damage was unmatched. With experience and good timing, I was often the deadliest player in my team in dungeons. In fact I often told my monks to put me on low priority of their healing. I rarely got hit. I was that good with it.

High risk, high reward. That’s how I love to play my necro. To me it fitted the necro theme very well. Necros would risk and sacrafice absolutely everything, even their own life, for that extra ounce of power to defeat their foes.

You are spot on. That high risk, high reward is missing from our class. I played a life stealing necromancer in GW1 as well, by stacking life siphon and life transfer, along with a mana shield. I had finely balanced out my class so that I could just about regenerate any loss of energy that my shield blocked, while my low amount of health would instantly refill to max due to the life stealing. I rarely needed a monk to heal me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLouxbk6QPY

(BTW, for this encounter I also brought Remove Hex to get rid of Wurm Bile on myself, and I equipped an offhand focus that greatly boosted my max energy, but at the expense of less energy regeneration. Basically I relied on my Superior Soul Reaping for energy, rather than natural regeneration. Because I figured this would be a fight of attrition.)

But make no mistake, life stealing was very weak in GW1. It was always the red headed stepchild, and only with very niche builds could you make it work.

I am kind of confused by the video. You are playing a necro but your skill bar are ranger skills. Either way nice work haha.

I did so many crazy tests back in GW1. For example remember how everyone laughed at the Meteor Shower warrior? Well I got it working (sort of). :P

Other experiments are flat out insane, and only necro guru’s would understand WTF I was trying to do. ^^

And finally, here was my ultimate necro build that I made to kill overpowered Winds of Change hardmode mobs. To all you GW2 necro kids that think we got attrition, think again! My necro 300 years ago was totally immune to conditions and hexes, and also made my whole party immune to conditions. Too crazy to be true? Watch how a GW1 S-Rank Category-5 necromancer destroy her foes. Witness our true power, that was lost from 300 years ago! XD

Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046:

I am wondering if you can determine balance of classes trough specific build themes..

let’s take signet builds as an example..
If all these signets are in the game and all professions having them can compose a build that can preform reasonably well with these signets, should these signet (themed) builds be on par with eachother?
“Just wanted to note this as i would assume they would be on par.”

Game balance and theme are different and separate topics.

Game balance, we would be talking about berserker vs PVT gear. We would be talking about necro’s high health vs lack of blocking and dodging. We would be talking about necro staff 2 vs elementalist staff 2, etc

In general, game balance discussions are much more direct and related. The hard numbers are all the matters.

Themes, we would be talking about summoning strong elementals vs summoning weak but numerous flesh minions (both are summons, but the theme is clearly different). We would be talking about Death Shroud vs stealth. We would be talking about wells vs elementalist fields.

In general, theme discussions are much more theoretical. The hard numbers doesn’t matter as much.

The stuff I mentioned earlier (life sacrificing, curses, minion army, death shroud) are theme related discussions.

milo.6942:

Dirame.8521:

Insidious Parasite can still return, Spoil Victor can still return, Spiteful Spirit can still return, its just a case of can Anet do it without reverting back to the notion that they would make the game too complex?

They introduced Torment which functions a lot like a hex in GW1 that the Ele could put on you which would make you take damage for each second you’re moving. Things like Spoil Victor and Spiteful Spirit could be skills in a new weapon set and they could function like their old counterparts.

I do miss the blood sacrificing and the life-stealing builds (I had a cultist’s fervour build way back when) and the hexing builds.

SS and SV exist already as confusion.

It was interesting that they didn’t give necros confusion. In GW1 mesmer and necro goes hand in hand with skills like Empathy.

fenre.7891:

CHIPS.6018:

@ Konig

These constructions will take a long time to complete. If peace talk breaks down, it will be too late to construct them. So they have to be built now during peace times.

This creates problem. Why would the Charr allow the humans to start building up massive defenses in an area which is contested between the two nations? In the eyes of realpolitik, which is mostly how the Charr view of IP (I get the impression of) an act to try to alter the status-quo on the border would be a sign of aggression.
And why would the humans start building up defenses which could ruin a peace talk?

The Charrs themselves are building up giant tanks and other weapons in the Black Citadal. Their “excuse” was that these are to be used against the Elder Dragons. It will be the same excuse that Ebonhawke will use. The Elder Dragons and its minions may very well attack Ebonhawke next.

Lack of balance is not what’s killing the GW2 necromancer. It is the lack of theme that’s killing it.

You know what, let’s totally forget balance and attrition for a second. I don’t even care about balance by this point. My concern: Where is the theme? I have played GW since GW1 beta, and TBH right now the GW2 necro doesn’t even feel like a necro at all.

The devs seems to have forgotten what the GW1 necromancer even was. And at the same time they cannot figure out a new theme for the GW2 necromancer to replace the missing themes.

Attrition is NOT a theme. This is how we win, not a theme. Theme is totally different.

Look:

Without those 5-33% life sacrificing skills, GW2 necro will never be the high risk/high reward class it was in GW1. And this was a huge theme, gone.

Without GW1’s version of Spiteful Spirit, Insidious Parasite and Spoil Victor, necro have no spells against physical attacks. And this was a huge theme, gone.

Without the ability to summon more minions as death happens, necro cannot summon a minion army. That’s why minions are so useless in dungeons. Back in GW1 I wouldn’t care if my minions dies. I just summon more. Another huge theme, gone.

Now let’s talk about Death Shroud. This was the most painful part of all.

Death Shroud was such a cool concept. Fight with spirits is like the coolest thing ever. It came from the comic series The Darkness. It really blows my mind how they can take a concept so cool and make it so, non-cool.

Ladies and gentlemen, watch how the real Death Shroud should fight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6WKYAZXlCA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BakIFkhZ_TE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2xSqL80Zvg

Necromancers are monsters. We always have been. Other classes have very real reasons to fear our powers.