If your passives stop working,the only way to get em back again is change the util out for a non sig,then switch it back again…It’s a hassle but the only way to work around it for now.
If it was due to pierce happening,then why does it never happen on a volley ?
Same for warrior signets after used they stop giving passive effects,healsig included.
Ya tested it aswell,all signets stop giving passive effects after being used once,Gamebreaking~ hotfix please.
Because let’s just forget that warriors have
Mace main
Mace offhand
Axe offhand
HammNever getting any love.
The best we saw were a few token cooldown reductions to Hammer. While it’s appreciated (in light of Revenant/Engi hammers..), the traits for mace and hammer don’t work with the actual weapons at all, unless you have a pocket thief with phasers set to Head Shot. So we’re still going to see either the range game with bow/gun because survivability still isn’t top priority, or more FG/PS spam.
Agree,i won’t be changing my builds with the current changes to warri besides throwing in some more damage to make up for the gunflame loss perhaps.
I run warri sprint over it so i can grab more offensive runes,but the thing with warri sprint is mostly the immob removal which makes it so good.
Also,i really think warri sprint should just affect our range weapons aswell.
Well yeah thats the point.. it doesnt effect rifle..
If i drop the offensive runes i do around -10% less dmg.. and no immob removal.
But i gain 25% movement speed on rifle the rifle trait..
ugh i think i play some around in pvp and see first
Exactly…Isn’t it pretty easy ? You either go for more dmg or for the mobility..Matter of preference.
The ticks i got at times from sitting on mortar on my burn condi build…i laughed my kitten off,ive seen half zergs drop cus of 7 – 9.8k ticks a sec.It was stupid OP.
I run warri sprint over it so i can grab more offensive runes,but the thing with warri sprint is mostly the immob removal which makes it so good.
Also,i really think warri sprint should just affect our range weapons aswell.
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What ? Now you need to hit em twice instead of once..Dmg,im fine with.The piercing removal however, Terrible terrible change.You already removed pierce from crackshot,and now you leave us with no piercing besides volley.
Do you know this game mode called WVW ANET ?
Honestly, I feel on the whole the changes are pretty good. Not quite sure why they decided it was longbow that needed the largest buff of our weapons, but fair enough. Physical buffs were long overdue, maybe we’ll see a bit more use of them now.
I do, however, have one MAJOR objection to the changes. While helpful, most of the biggest buffs were applied to the defense traitline. We were already pressured into taking that line if we wanted any ability to survive at all, this only compounds the problem. Future adjustments to warrior should focus on spreading effectiveness to our other lines to give people more options instead of locking us into the same 2-3 specializations.
Because let’s just forget that warriors have
Mace main
Mace offhand
Axe offhand
Hamm
Never getting any love.
Why do you need catas while roaming? Makes no sense. Leave pvd to havoc or blobs.
Because you can do alot with just 2 – 5 people.You don’t have to mindlessly run around just looking for a few people to gank,trying to draw out some when you siege a tower has given me the best fights usually and you’re still helping out the main blob aswell.
I’d love Thick skin to be replaced with Turtle’s Defense
Gain +200 toughness when crippled, chilled, stunned, or immobilized.
This seasons matchmaking has nothing to do with skill, contrary to what Anet is saying.. it’s noobs fighting noobs and getting to legendary. It’s a grind.
It IS a grind,and every match felt the same.I didnt play this season but i did last season,made it to diamond with warri only and i got bored to tears so i stopped.I couldn’t endure that grind anymore,every kitten match is the exact same with the same comps.
You are easy pickings for the zerg obviously.. I doubt its anything more complicated than that.. as a roamer you should be avoiding the zerg or even small roaming parties.. and not the other way around right? =p Unless you can take them corz.. >____<
You cant avoid a zerg thats coming specifically for 2 people to a camp.
Well… “Roamers”, outside of scouting and flipping camps, are fundamentally useless. They Prey on unskilled players running back to a tag and complain when they get pummeled for it. The whole “Roamer” subculture is so caught up in itself and wants to be known as “Unsung Heroes” for basically being gankers.
IMO if you want to Roam, go ahead, you can be useful with callouts, but stop your whining when you get ganked or an army runs over you.
Unskilled player detected !
In all seriousness,you couldnt be more full of it.
Stop whining when roamers get ganked..But you can complain if you get ganked ?
Mayb the thought ever came across that roamers gank you due to the zerg mentality where entire zergs like to chase 1 or 2 people forever ? Or where they keep on sending 20 people for 2 trying to grab a camp ?Its called payback.
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The lack of mobility kills it for wvw.
LOL, that was hilarious! 10/10
I’ve never actually died from it before!
Lol yeah,it wasn’t me though.I saw this vid posted on gw2wvwnet a while back.
Okay, first, if you can recreate it that often. please make a video of it and submit a bug report. Many times things don’t get fixed because we cannot recreate it. I’ve never heard of anyone having the bug this often.
So can you..I do it alot in wvw just for fun,find a staircase then on the staircase find the exact length of where your shieldbash will end..Then bash uptop to the staircase will make you leap up in the sky.At times you fly up really high,at times its a small jump.
It happens in regular fights aswell where the ground isn’t even,a nice height difference in ground can make it happen.Ive also seen a ranger knock me back when i was standing on a bridge’s edge where it made me fly up cus i got knocked exactly at that edge.
Fast forward to 1:10.
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@Thunder King
Yeah, I used to feel the same until I started packing Might Sig and became a convert. But that’s me and you might find Stamina Sig too good to lose (it IS pretty amazing).In that case, maybe give some thought to swapping your food for something else. Golden Fried Dumplings will contribute more to your might stacking than the stew, it’ll lengthen all of your boons (vigor, fury, might, resistance, swiftness… you’ve got a bunch there) by 20%, and it’s cheaper too.
^ That,It would have made that last fight you had vs the scrap a bit easier aswell,theyre such a kitten pain to fight without unblock,you held on pretty well there though.
Nice vid
Warrior is the only class Anet is treating right…idk what the kitten theyre doing with the others since 23 june tho..
Exactly,everything else is just over the top.
Gw2 is still one of the most polished mmos out there,ive tried out tons in the meanwhile while playing this.Latest being bdo and blade n soul which are both terribly optimized and arn’t nearly as polished as gw2 is.
Would love to see gw2 in dx11,but thats not gonna happen.
Try to find a time of day where you have the best chance of winning,and farm it.
What are those 4k kills vizu has ? All the npc’s and tower lords they meet at night ?
This lies in the mentality of people and those willing to change their ways.They gave us the squad system which is ideal to form several smaller groups,but people keep on zerging anyway,no matter what anet gives us..People will be zerging.
Berserk power adds 20% dmg
Bloody roar adds 10%
Scholar runes adds 10%
Then ontop of it vulnerability can be applied for e.g Sundering leap adds 10 stacks vuln,Rifle’s Brutal shot adds 8 stacks.
Not even considering might that can be applied on u by yourself or from others.
So yeah it’s possible,but you Have to give up disc or def for it.
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Maybe start off with an easier to understand class first before you hop on thief.Thief can be incredible strong if played right,but it does take a while to learn everything going on this game and even then it can still be hard to accomplish.Grab an easier class i reckon so you can atleast stay alive long enough to figure out wth is going on and being able to learn how to counter it.
Otherwise stay on your thief but go 1on1 with some people to practice,best way to get your thief in shape.
baruch bay ticking all night with 600 for MONTHS now. anet why you do nothing against that? why can a server win every matchup from only nightcapping? this is unbelievable…
If your server cant maintain war at night then your server deserves to lose.
“Maintain” war ? Barauch is absent during the day,getting wrecked ppt wise during prime,fights arent even worth mentioning,able to crawl out of their caskets at night as i remember them.And night PPT is All they can,and no..it shouldnt let a server win based on only capping at night when the other 2 servers are asleep.If you cant maintain daytime/prime time and lose every fight you have,you deserve to lose..and not win cus of a night ppt game.
Vaans posted one where he killed a warrior then slowed down the video to show endure pain bug. This one was very clear and was nice because it was clear that vaans was not just whining about dying.
Warr vs warr,look at the target at 0:20 sec,slow the vid down to 0.25.
also,notice the date ? this has been going for atleast a half year now and we had no fix with multiple bug reports made..and now yet another.
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I’ll learn to counter it when it stops instant downing me in large fights.. If I had 1% health left I’d be happy because then I ould try to counter. Getting instant downed is the friggin problem. Stop saying learn to play or learn to counter. If this is a learn to play issue so is ever single complaint EVER
Should blame your zerg for that,reflect lines are normally being popped forcing gunflamers and heavy range to go to the sides..Also note we have 1200 range not 1500.Also there is no way you’re getting insta downed by it,if you do..that’s all on you.
no the blame goes to the balance team. any skill that goes from full health to instant downed is BROKEN and not healthy game play. You play the build so of course you don’t see it as a problem.
You’re missing how it is to play a warri at all atm,which is a pain in zergfights aswell,but you wouldn’t know that because you don’t play warri at all.Try it,and come back at me.
And as ive said before,I do not run gunflame often,it’s too gimmicky and we have to sacrifice ALOT to make it work with having null sustain left.
I have 10 level 80’s nice try though.. Glad you could tell what I play from what I post..
Anything else to add or that’s it ? if you do play warri should know how it is,but i still think you have no kittening clue whatsoever.Also since you people are talking about Zerg fights only….you forget that the warris are getting atleast 15 – 25 might stacks..You people should take this into a small scale perspective or pvp perspective and Then complain,Theres a reason this is not being used in esl.
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I’ll learn to counter it when it stops instant downing me in large fights.. If I had 1% health left I’d be happy because then I could try to counter. Getting instant downed is the friggin problem. Stop saying learn to play or learn to counter. If this is a learn to play issue so is ever single complaint EVER
Should blame your zerg for that,reflect lines are normally being popped forcing gunflamers and heavy range to go to the sides..Also note we have 1200 range not 1500.Also there is no way you’re getting insta downed by it,if you do..that’s all on you.
no the blame goes to the balance team. any skill that goes from full health to instant downed is BROKEN and not healthy game play. You play the build so of course you don’t see it as a problem.
You’re missing how it is to play a warri at all atm,which is a pain in zergfights aswell,but you wouldn’t know that because you don’t play warri at all.Try it,and come back at me.
And as ive said before,I do not run gunflame often,it’s too gimmicky and we have to sacrifice ALOT to make it work with having null sustain left.Also there is a reason why this isn’t being used in ESL teams,but you dont care about that..all you care about is being hit by it in a kittening 50v50 fight…for kittensake.
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Because people are kittens,the sooner you realize that the easier it is to let go of it and ignore all the bullkitten going on.
I’ll learn to counter it when it stops instant downing me in large fights.. If I had 1% health left I’d be happy because then I could try to counter. Getting instant downed is the friggin problem. Stop saying learn to play or learn to counter. If this is a learn to play issue so is ever single complaint EVER
Should blame your zerg for that,reflect lines are normally being popped forcing gunflamers and heavy range to go to the sides..Also note we have 1200 range not 1500.Also there is no way you’re getting insta downed by it,if you do..that’s all on you.
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Endure pain does not only happen at low hp,it’s random.
These zerg fights are an absolute bore,spamming aoe’s from 12 – 1500 range with 20 lines of reflect and warding in between untill one guy gets caught in the stuntrapaoecondispammbullkitten and a push happens on that one guy.It’s kittening pathetic,i don’t know how people can enjoy this snoozefest.
Siege timers are there to prevent a siege limit from being hit on a map.A guild could still troll with tons of guild siege to hit the limit.
Also needing to go full zerk ( which means 19k hp and around 2.3 – 2.5k toughness ) with our only sustain being healsig + endure pain trait basically means,we dont have any sustain at all.
Oh, is that really that hard for warrior? I’m so sorry to hear that from my biased ele point of view. I know that ele is soo much OP with 13k hp and 1.9k thougness(full zerker staff ele) and hardly any skill that would give 8+k dmg on one hit, because most of our skills are aoe from which you can just walk away. And if we really want to do dmg, we HAVE to stand like idiots in place for 3s(and again it’s aoe so..), so i’m really sorry that your warrior have so little sustain it’s almost unbearable, you should definitely tell that to devs so they can do something about it.
/sarcasm offOk, ele have invul, but we can do kitten in it, we have magnetic aura which is 4s long and have 30s cd(which in normal wvw fight is usefull only if warior stands right next to you so you can see him, or you have to be luckiest person in that fight), lightning flash is not really that usefull against GunFlame since you usually don’t know from where they will shot and please tell me what good is regen if you get dmg equal to 1,5 times of you MAX health.
Dont compare an ele to a warri,it just does not make sense at all.
Just ran into a warrior running this, nothing should do that much damage that quickly with 2 button presses. 0.75s isn’t long but with quickness on going berserk it’s just stupid.
you dont know how to use invulns,blocks,blinds,ports,stealth,leaps,reflects,interrupts ? Theres a kitten ton of counters to gunflame which all of you kittening noobs are missing
Cry for more nerfs please as its so justified as our healsig nerf back then a year or so back cus all of you kittening idiots cried about HEALSIG SO STRONG PLEASE NERF ! DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH IT !But now its been buffed back to regular numbers again since anet realized their mistake cus of ppl crying for a nerf that Wasnt justified.
Learn to kittening counter it because ive seen enough people smart enough how to.
Most gunflamers i encounter still suck on it with the few exceptions there.if a warri goes into berserk when on rifle ( Which is kittening apparant enough ) You know he’s gonna gun you in a sec,so you wait with your invulns/ports or w/e you have untill he reaches that point..its 15 sec of you taking distance popping invulns,ports,blocks,reflects untill he turns normal again..Honestly its not as hard as you people make it look like.
You missed the point. With quickness you can be popping shots at people from the sides of a Zerg then insta kill anyone in the focus group nearly with about a 0.35s warning. It shouldn’t do that much damage, that quick at range.
Again, it’s the speed at which it happens. You simply don’t have the time, especially with quickness on going berserk to react.
Stick the cast at 1-1.5s, keep the ability to move around and it’ll be fine, still one shot people but it will give people time to react.
Also chill out. I didn’t say anything about heal sig, so stop being always angry and use the discipline line.
Please note where i mentioned i was not talking about zerg fights.This game should not be balanced around zerg fights either theres still a thing called pvp you know.Also typing in caps does not mean i’m angry,i’m pointing out something stupid people used to complain about.As this is atm,im not about to repeat myself over and over,ive said about this build what there is to say,learn to counter.
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Dunno about that one,it seems you popped ep right at the time you got another hit.Ive seen a better vid from a warri getting hit with trueshot when ep was up,but cant seem to find it.
Unlike other traited invulns, endure pain will not stop ur health at 20%. If ur at 21% health and get spiked to 0 endure pain won’t do anything. To make matters worse it seams like it still triggers meaning it goes on cd
It also happens on endure pain util,no matter if i pop it at 75% or 30%..It’s too random to get a hold on what’s causing it since it happens randomly vs various classes.I thought i had it figured out some months back that lifesteal was the cause of other damage going through aswell,but that doesn’t seem to be the cause since ive been having it vs a rev and vs guards and vs eles..and vs warrs,thieves..basically any class in these months it’s been happening.
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Do the rats display the right animation now like any other race, or does it still look like they stand still and BANG headshotted?
Like every class has such telegraphic skills able to read? Warr is easy to read Besides gunflame..It’s our only non high telegraphic skill.We used to had a killshot…Kneel down.. LOOK AT MEEE,now im gonna shoot…ready to evade ? Here i go ! The change to gunflame was awesome,learn how to deal with it.Ive been fighting kittenloads of gunflames myself,sometimes im lucky,sometimes im not,kitten happens.
Uh… I run full zerk ele and I don’t have that one shot button you seem to think we are entitled to have when we run that glassy.
Beside, for the third time, how easy is it to see that animation among the usual chaos of wvw? You guys saying dodge it are just ridiculous. Duh, of course I’d dodge it if I saw it and I had the endurance for at that moment.
Now, again, of course I learned to live with these lame builds all around and accept the fact I live a very dangerous life. However, let’s not pretend there is nothing wrong about that kind of damage.
Eh you still have sustain and blocks and invulns and regen on that ele which a warri doesnt have.You people have NO kittening clue,really.NONE.You also forget that a warri able to do such hits is BUILD for it,meaning he has dropped defense line completely and is a wet kittening noodle and open to every condi spamm aswell.But qq more please.
Uh, I do have all 9 professions at lvl 80 mind you so I do have a clue. For once, It would be nice if ppl stop think of a profession as all the same no matter the spec. It’s just ridiculous. You have an abysmal difference between the cheese spec you saw in pvp for so long and a backline speck in wvw. You are unkillable in celestial gear but drop dead instantly when look at in zerk.
Yes, ele has exceptional sustain but tell me how it’s useful when you drop dead instantly without any clue among the chaos of battle? You ain’t bouncing back from a one shot button. Try one shotting even the glassiest war? It’s impossible.
Beside, AFAIK, warrior has longer (possibly more frequent too) and better invul (you can attack when endure pain is on, while you can do jack kitten while on mist form). You also have at least just as many block available. You are absolutely certain to have the chance to hit any ‘oh, kitten’ button you have on your bar and some have it on auto.
I’m not saying war is OP. It’s not at the moment. However, I call major BS on anyone telling me a glass war is just as glassy as it’s ele counter part.
Well,first of all,i was not talking about zerg fights.I do not enjoy them anymore…Its 1500 range aoe bombing with 50 lines of warding and reflect in between ando no pushes going on unless 1 guy happens to get caught in the aoe spam.Its a snoozefest for me,i was merely talking about roaming only,where i can still see enough hard counters going on.
In small scale fights gunflame won’t be anywhere as problematic because the chaos of battle won’t be as intense and it will be easier to tell when use. For some builds it will still be very hard to overcome even one on one tho.
That being said, what is the logic and fun behind the insane damage you get from that skill? You do not sacrifice more than a lot of other build out there for your damage and yet you have a lot more punch than any in return and with better range. That it can be unblockable, has an aoe and has no need to be channeled only add salt to the injury.
War is not OP but that skill has clear issue. To be fair, other skills share the guilt. This one simply is the worst of its kind and, more importantly, on topic.
Yeah it’s chaotic in zerg fights,but doesn’t that count for every other class in those fights aswell ? ABout the sacrificing part trust me,we Have to sacrifice defense line in order to make this damage,which means..No condi cleanse or stabi util trait,no dogged march,no adren hp regen,no endure pain trait..That’s a a Huge loss to our sustain.Also needing to go full zerk ( which means 19k hp and around 2.3 – 2.5k toughness ) with our only sustain being healsig + endure pain trait basically means,we dont have any sustain at all.Also the skill is Only unblockable if people build it..Signet of might is a utility which grants 6 sec of unblockable when used..that means they have to give up sig of fury,balanced stance Or endure pain util.Otherwise it means they only use the sig of precision trait which grants unblockable when a foe reaches 50%.Trust me,we dont have it all…Make a warr and try to make it happen,youl see the issues.We have to sacrfice Alot to make this work.
The chaos is the same for all but the effect of such a chaos will be a lot more important when you have 1 shot button options.
Beside, no matter how much I sacrifice on an ele it is impossible to achieve 1 button, 1 kill. And it’s the same for most other profession. You guys can and it’s not that costly all things being equal.
It is very costly though to make this worthwile,it takes practice to learn how to counter it,go into a pvp arena ( i can even borrow you a free private one ) and try to fight one 1on1,learn his stuff and counter it.To be honest,i run gunflame myself not so often,it’s gimmicky and the no sustain part kills it for me when fighting 1vx..There are stronger builds around that people seem to miss.
Do the rats display the right animation now like any other race, or does it still look like they stand still and BANG headshotted?
Like every class has such telegraphic skills able to read? Warr is easy to read Besides gunflame..It’s our only non high telegraphic skill.We used to had a killshot…Kneel down.. LOOK AT MEEE,now im gonna shoot…ready to evade ? Here i go ! The change to gunflame was awesome,learn how to deal with it.Ive been fighting kittenloads of gunflames myself,sometimes im lucky,sometimes im not,kitten happens.
Uh… I run full zerk ele and I don’t have that one shot button you seem to think we are entitled to have when we run that glassy.
Beside, for the third time, how easy is it to see that animation among the usual chaos of wvw? You guys saying dodge it are just ridiculous. Duh, of course I’d dodge it if I saw it and I had the endurance for at that moment.
Now, again, of course I learned to live with these lame builds all around and accept the fact I live a very dangerous life. However, let’s not pretend there is nothing wrong about that kind of damage.
Eh you still have sustain and blocks and invulns and regen on that ele which a warri doesnt have.You people have NO kittening clue,really.NONE.You also forget that a warri able to do such hits is BUILD for it,meaning he has dropped defense line completely and is a wet kittening noodle and open to every condi spamm aswell.But qq more please.
Uh, I do have all 9 professions at lvl 80 mind you so I do have a clue. For once, It would be nice if ppl stop think of a profession as all the same no matter the spec. It’s just ridiculous. You have an abysmal difference between the cheese spec you saw in pvp for so long and a backline speck in wvw. You are unkillable in celestial gear but drop dead instantly when look at in zerk.
Yes, ele has exceptional sustain but tell me how it’s useful when you drop dead instantly without any clue among the chaos of battle? You ain’t bouncing back from a one shot button. Try one shotting even the glassiest war? It’s impossible.
Beside, AFAIK, warrior has longer (possibly more frequent too) and better invul (you can attack when endure pain is on, while you can do jack kitten while on mist form). You also have at least just as many block available. You are absolutely certain to have the chance to hit any ‘oh, kitten’ button you have on your bar and some have it on auto.
I’m not saying war is OP. It’s not at the moment. However, I call major BS on anyone telling me a glass war is just as glassy as it’s ele counter part.
Well,first of all,i was not talking about zerg fights.I do not enjoy them anymore…Its 1500 range aoe bombing with 50 lines of warding and reflect in between ando no pushes going on unless 1 guy happens to get caught in the aoe spam.Its a snoozefest for me,i was merely talking about roaming only,where i can still see enough hard counters going on.
In small scale fights gunflame won’t be anywhere as problematic because the chaos of battle won’t be as intense and it will be easier to tell when use. For some builds it will still be very hard to overcome even one on one tho.
That being said, what is the logic and fun behind the insane damage you get from that skill? You do not sacrifice more than a lot of other build out there for your damage and yet you have a lot more punch than any in return and with better range. That it can be unblockable, has an aoe and has no need to be channeled only add salt to the injury.
War is not OP but that skill has clear issue. To be fair, other skills share the guilt. This one simply is the worst of its kind and, more importantly, on topic.
Yeah it’s chaotic in zerg fights,but doesn’t that count for every other class in those fights aswell ?Also if this happens in zerg fights,dont forget the guy is getting bufffed with probably 15 – 25might that he would never have gained himself. About the sacrificing part trust me,we Have to sacrifice defense line in order to make this damage,which means..No condi cleanse or stabi util trait,no dogged march,no adren hp regen,no endure pain trait..That’s a a Huge loss to our sustain.Also needing to go full zerk ( which means 19k hp and around 2.3 – 2.5k toughness ) with our only sustain being healsig + endure pain trait basically means,we dont have any sustain at all.Also the skill is Only unblockable if people build it..Signet of might is a utility which grants 6 sec of unblockable when used..that means they have to give up sig of fury,balanced stance Or endure pain util.Otherwise it means they only use the sig of precision trait which grants unblockable when a foe reaches 50%.Trust me,we dont have it all…Make a warr and try to make it happen,youl see the issues.We have to sacrfice Alot to make this work.
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Do the rats display the right animation now like any other race, or does it still look like they stand still and BANG headshotted?
Like every class has such telegraphic skills able to read? Warr is easy to read Besides gunflame..It’s our only non high telegraphic skill.We used to had a killshot…Kneel down.. LOOK AT MEEE,now im gonna shoot…ready to evade ? Here i go ! The change to gunflame was awesome,learn how to deal with it.Ive been fighting kittenloads of gunflames myself,sometimes im lucky,sometimes im not,kitten happens.
Uh… I run full zerk ele and I don’t have that one shot button you seem to think we are entitled to have when we run that glassy.
Beside, for the third time, how easy is it to see that animation among the usual chaos of wvw? You guys saying dodge it are just ridiculous. Duh, of course I’d dodge it if I saw it and I had the endurance for at that moment.
Now, again, of course I learned to live with these lame builds all around and accept the fact I live a very dangerous life. However, let’s not pretend there is nothing wrong about that kind of damage.
Eh you still have sustain and blocks and invulns and regen on that ele which a warri doesnt have.You people have NO kittening clue,really.NONE.You also forget that a warri able to do such hits is BUILD for it,meaning he has dropped defense line completely and is a wet kittening noodle and open to every condi spamm aswell.But qq more please.
Uh, I do have all 9 professions at lvl 80 mind you so I do have a clue. For once, It would be nice if ppl stop think of a profession as all the same no matter the spec. It’s just ridiculous. You have an abysmal difference between the cheese spec you saw in pvp for so long and a backline speck in wvw. You are unkillable in celestial gear but drop dead instantly when look at in zerk.
Yes, ele has exceptional sustain but tell me how it’s useful when you drop dead instantly without any clue among the chaos of battle? You ain’t bouncing back from a one shot button. Try one shotting even the glassiest war? It’s impossible.
Beside, AFAIK, warrior has longer (possibly more frequent too) and better invul (you can attack when endure pain is on, while you can do jack kitten while on mist form). You also have at least just as many block available. You are absolutely certain to have the chance to hit any ‘oh, kitten’ button you have on your bar and some have it on auto.
I’m not saying war is OP. It’s not at the moment. However, I call major BS on anyone telling me a glass war is just as glassy as it’s ele counter part.
Well,first of all,i was not talking about zerg fights.I do not enjoy them anymore…Its 1500 range aoe bombing with 50 lines of warding and reflect in between and no pushes going on unless 1 guy happens to get caught in the aoe spam.Its a snoozefest for me,i was merely talking about roaming only,where i can still see enough hard counters going on.
Also,yes we do have endure pain but notice the only endure pain they have is on their util bar since most gunners do not run def line,its their Only invuln against dmg..most likely they have balanced stance + sig of fury on their trait line.So when u run into a gunflame and you notice he start off with ep and filling adren right away with fury ( look at his bar )..you take distance or save your reflect/block ( you do have em ) for when they go berserk..The animation to when warrs go into berserk is very obvious..what happens after is a gunflame..if you make sure you have your defensive stuff ready for that moment..it should be good..Otherwise dont be ashamed to get out of range untill berserk ends.btw,no we do not have any blocks available at all. ( Usual gunflame build is gs/rifle )
Also,pro tip ! Use los,objects or small hills that make their shots go obstruct.
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Just ran into a warrior running this, nothing should do that much damage that quickly with 2 button presses. 0.75s isn’t long but with quickness on going berserk it’s just stupid.
you dont know how to use invulns,blocks,blinds,ports,stealth,leaps,reflects,interrupts ? Theres a kitten ton of counters to gunflame which all of you kittening noobs are missing
Cry for more nerfs please as its so justified as our healsig nerf back then a year or so back cus all of you kittening idiots cried about HEALSIG SO STRONG PLEASE NERF ! DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH IT !But now its been buffed back to regular numbers again since anet realized their mistake cus of ppl crying for a nerf that Wasnt justified.
Learn to kittening counter it because ive seen enough people smart enough how to.
Most gunflamers i encounter still suck on it with the few exceptions there.
if a warri goes into berserk when on rifle ( Which is kittening apparant enough ) You know he’s gonna gun you in a sec,so you wait with your invulns/ports or w/e you have untill he reaches that point..its 15 sec of you taking distance popping invulns,ports,blocks,reflects untill he turns normal again..Honestly its not as hard as you people make it look like.
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Do the rats display the right animation now like any other race, or does it still look like they stand still and BANG headshotted?
Like every class has such telegraphic skills able to read? Warr is easy to read Besides gunflame..It’s our only non high telegraphic skill.We used to had a killshot…Kneel down.. LOOK AT MEEE,now im gonna shoot…ready to evade ? Here i go ! The change to gunflame was awesome,learn how to deal with it.Ive been fighting kittenloads of gunflames myself,sometimes im lucky,sometimes im not,kitten happens.
Uh… I run full zerk ele and I don’t have that one shot button you seem to think we are entitled to have when we run that glassy.
Beside, for the third time, how easy is it to see that animation among the usual chaos of wvw? You guys saying dodge it are just ridiculous. Duh, of course I’d dodge it if I saw it and I had the endurance for at that moment.
Now, again, of course I learned to live with these lame builds all around and accept the fact I live a very dangerous life. However, let’s not pretend there is nothing wrong about that kind of damage.
Eh you still have sustain and blocks and invulns and regen on that ele which a warri doesnt have.You people have NO kittening clue,really.NONE.You also forget that a warri able to do such hits is BUILD for it,meaning he has dropped defense line completely and is a wet kittening noodle and open to every condi spamm aswell.But qq more please.
Warrior : gain 2 pips when you lose a game
lol…
I actually like the expansion and like the direction its going.
You like the zerg based pve content where trying to get a piece of armor is out of your hands and the grind that comes with it ? You like the way they abuse the gemstore to keep on introducing more gliders and wings instead of proper armor ? How they completely kittened up wvw for what it is and probably will continue doing so ? And how they also did nothing major to pvp or adding new PROPER maps instead of some moba clone ? Allight !
For being able to do such gunflames the guy needs to run full zerk and probably,most likely…very likely also is not running def line.Means he has no cleansin and propably only 1x endure pain maybe stabi considering if he has both sig of might and fury or either one of them.Besides there’s still the ability to lose his los,get out of range if you dont have invulns ready.
so where is my 1 shot button on my full zerker ele? I don’t have one and neither should any profession no matter what gear they are running…
I can go full bunker guardian and still get hit with high numbers from certain skills yet I hit like a wet noodle. It needs to be adjusted damage wise.
Who says you need a One shot button on your ele ? And if you go full bunker guardian you shouldnt expect to do any dmg besides hitting like a wet noodle.
Seemed like I get lot of hate when I do…
If they complain,you’re doing something right.
Sorry to hear that you’re having this issue.
If you continue to experience this, I’d strongly encourage you to contact CS to let them walk through a process of determining the source of the issue. It could be something on our end, within your system, or somewhere in between. With a couple of easy, quick, and free logs, the team will do their best to help you.
I’m pretty positive this is not on my end because the entire server is complaining when it happens ( yet they continue to go for 3 ways…..dont ask me ! ). The stress on your servers when 3 ways like this happens is immense i reckon,especially if they go on for a while.
EU btw
Far shiverpeaks.