Cleric Vs Shaman I could use a bit more convincing, not seeing how Cleric is better.
Have players not figured out by now the BM Healer build is an outlast build, I mean don’t they just move in whatever direction as to negate your pet and leave you to last? I see a LB Ranger in PvP and I laugh and 3 shot her…I see a melee Ranger with healing signet and I just avoid them.
Edit: You used that horrible builder that requires us to watch a silly add :/ pass
Aegis.9724 hit the nail on the head but I guess that’s part of the appeal of GW2 and WvW, character strength is in our heads so we can pretty much spec any way and still ‘feel’ like gods….Anet are smart indeed
That was a really cool vid, great music too! I was on the floor laughing at that warrior with a legendary weapon that kept swinging at air, I mean he must have not hit you more than once or twice it was hilarious!
I have not seen a video of this build, however I’ve been running a build sorta similar to this for about 2 weeks now. Mine is a bit more offensive I think.
I like having 409 over Elixir C since I’m usually playing with a small group, plus I think elixir U works very well in conjunction with the rifle.
The idea seems similar:
Stack might and other boons, I usually have about 8 – 12 stacks of might and 4 other boons up at most times.
Use a combination of supply crate, jump shot, and blunderbuss for burst.
Sustained damage and a bit of control.
As I said mine is more offensive, the OP build seems more defensive. Either way I think it works.
Judging by the listed stats I’d say almost all power/tough/vit gear and probably around 10% crit and no crit damage. The 10% crit is assuming he has some Knight pieces in there.
Not sure if any of what I posted was what your looking for, more so just making some observations.
although I plan on taking Cloaking device to deal w/stuns and replacing S potion with U. Just kinda always been partial to the quickness and field generation with toss.
If your going for WvW I would very much suggest a stun breaker. Without Elixir S you are left without one in the current load-out. Dropping Elixir B would be a mistake. I personally don’t use Elixir duration, as Is the duration seems long enough, so if you want to use U I’d replace C with U and run 409 over Elixir Duration. Just my two-cents.
Thanks, this was actually exactly what I was looking for!
The build I linked is as defensive as you can get, in sPvP it feels ‘tankish’ and can take a serious beating while putting out enough damage to get the other guy down.
Your puts out 15% more damage (Empowering Adrenaline + Rifle Mod) and uses 409 for Condition as to free up a utility slot for U. I will definitely try your build out in WvW!
Seem we do have a tipping point crit wise between condition and power and I think it can be reached in WvW but not in sPvP. As for Traps Sol plays them in a Power/Precision build while I have seen others play condition build without any Traps!
I don’t really know how to move forward with this as what we ‘think’ it should look like turns out to be a sandbox and players like Sol and others have thought outside of that sandbox -example being Traps in a Power/Precision build.
As a principal I am not attracted to Traps but as a roamer in WvW Traps are just amazing, they make life against D/D Ele and Thief so much easier…You damage them at range and shred them apart when they come in close.
As for fun factor I enjoy the Power variant more than Traps and if I can find a way to make it work in WvW it would be build of choice.
I like it as a starting point it ticks lots of boxes!! I will bet that with use OP will drop SotH and QZ, for what? Not sure but he might see value in Spike trap and LR! I also bet he will drop Axe off hand and get Torch.
I know that those are better options, I just think what I picked are cooler XD. I am a sucker for looks.
I understand completely and since it works and its fun why not.
I can’t take this spec seriously even for pve purpose. You claim that this has “full and max” condition damage yet you drop the biggest buff to condition damage. BIP provides 10 stacks… TEN… of might thats a huge buff to condition damage. You use it right before epidemic or after you stacked your bleeds to increase damage by 1/4 to 1/3 depending on your condition damage.
Why in gods name would you replace that with spectral walk…. and 20 points in SR?… Why?… Unless DS now spews conditions that is the worst place to spend trait points. Yeah DS still can save you from a burst but frankly staying in it for any longer then that is counterproductive in every imaginable way for condition specced necromancer.
You take something so unreliable as CB yet drop a 100% guaranteed damage buff. Don’t get me wrong I also carry CB… and curse it every single time when it fails point blank.
Offensive: Build has the full and max Condition damage of the profession, you can always change Runes to max out bleed duration to hit 100% -I didn’t do the math just like the x6 set.
Yeah you really didn’t do the math :P… bleed duration 100% is taken purely for the barbed precision. The benefit from it in numbers outweights going for max condition damage and undead runes.
Defensive:
1) Last Grasp: 100% Guarantee that you will never be burst from opener, you will ALWAYS have time to fight back against those glass cannon builds.
2) Golem: Perma Cripple from when you roam -I also like the other elites.
3) Stun breaker that regens LF with a good amount of LF.
4) Corrupt Boon for that critical point in the fight!
Thoughts?
Never rely on CB at critical point. Its very situational and unreliable. Yes its amazing when it works… too bad more often then not it doesn’t.
And last grasp won’t save you from burst. The protection part of it is laugable purely because it doesn’t last long enough to matter. LF you get out of it… is arguable benefit for defense… Yeah it could prolong your DS time… but if a glass cannon can’t burst your DS… then well… they don’t have a clue and shame on you for not squashing it on the spot. Also if you are getting bursted and your not in DS… well… you are doing it wrong. Considering SA gets removed when you enter DS… well… the whole 6 seconds of protection and LF gains just go out of the window.
Also I’m not too sure about battle sigils. Yeah its great on some classes… on necro only time you should be switching from scepter to staff is when your getting hammered down and you need to get to your team. If you carry double scepter/dagger then well you loose 1 aoe GTFO button + chill + condtion removal + heal for friendlies with a really good source of 3 bleeds all packed into 1 with a conveniently short cd for once.
So basically while I guess I came out like a dick… im just saying its not feasible for pve or pvp. I understand you wan’t swiftness and all that… but just give up. Condition necro is not a solo experience. Unless its 1v1 and it never is.
Again… if you are condition you should have 30 points in curses. Barbed Precision is a 5 point passive trait that gives you the largest damage source from traits(as long as you feed it proper gear). But it heavily relies on having proper bleed duration.
If a condtion doesn’t last for a full duration despite w/e this game/anet tells you. It will only do damage for as many FULL seconds as it has. So yes… 1 second bleed will do same damage as 1.5 second bleed. And that’s why you need to beef up bleed duration.
Hell I’m still torn between wasting 30 points into a useless tree as far as conditions go… to just get durations.
Otherwise 20 death and 20 blood. get staff cd and greater marks + mark of evasion and dagger cd.
But if you like your spec… ignore w/e people say and use it. This class is so terrible, that if you can find something you like you should grab it with both hands. I can’t find anything… I per-ordered this failboat for minions. And this game failed so hard on that. Gotta love it when bigger audience, more finances, a title released for reference(where it was done “well”)… and yet they managed to completely drop everything down the toilet. How?
I have a secret to share with you, I know it will be hard to believe but you can always go in game and test it: You can swap utilities and quite easily..Don’t fall out of your chair its true!
15 in DS or I won’t take your seriously, it is that good and IT DOES guarantee that no glass cannon build will over burst you down in the opener. Tests have been done and videos posted on these forums…With a glass cannon Thief will not kill in in opener..Without you die.
- a decent duelist in 1v1-3 situations, condition build only
i haven’t played WvW so can’t comment, but play a lot of SPvP and i do extremely well in duels, 1v1-3 situations and i don’t use a condition build. Just Sayin.
Which is what build?
I don’t share my build, not because i think it’s some secret sauce of awesomeness, just that i hate the cookie-cutter culture, and don’t want to see loads of other ppl running it w/o even understanding why it works and putting the work in to experiment like i did. But basically it’s just power, signet, toughness. I’d be happy to duel (not saying i can beat anyone lol) and you can judge whether it’s worth it’s salt
Then stop wasting our time with ridiculous comments like my build is awesome you all have no idea what you are saying -paraphrasing your one liners.
Pet always goes behind target
AE passive mitigation of 9x%
Pet is like a DoT so always on target
Pet can move while attacking, they never need to stand still to cast ANYTHING
-Enfeebling Blood (Dagger 5) > Blood Curse (Scepter 1) > Feast of Corruption (Scepter 3)
-Grasping Dead for Cripple and Deathly Swarm to send conditions and blind
-Dump 50% LF on foe burst chain then go to Staff and back to Scepter ASAP
-Staff marks have an ideal order based on fields and finishers
-If you need to heal and don’t have conditions on you use your utilities than DoT you.
Not an expert by any measure, found I win when I can land my abilities…Just land them and you win…The other guy wins when they stop me from landing Scepter 1 x3 and Dagger 5 and then CC me as soon as I go into DS then burst me down so I do no damage in DS and they bypass my marks…I lose.
Know before you engage when you will pop stun breaker and DS…Smart players play CD’s…Newer players don’t set up at all..they tend to die or run away.
In WvW you will end up with a truck load of Crit and when you DS you will have 5 sec of Fury, don’t waste those 5 sec and you will hit like a 10 ton truck!
Spite
Curse II 20% Bleed Duration / VII Corruption CD / XI Scepter 33% Condi Duration
DM II Mark size increase
BM I Dagger CD
SR IV Spectral CD / X 3% Mark Life Force
x6 Nightmare
x2 Sigil Battle (Might on Swap)
x1 Sigil Corruption (condi stacks on kill)
Offensive: Build has the full and max Condition damage of the profession, you can always change Runes to max out bleed duration to hit 100% -I didn’t do the math just like the x6 set.
Defensive:
1) Last Grasp: 100% Guarantee that you will never be burst from opener, you will ALWAYS have time to fight back against those glass cannon builds.
2) Golem: Perma Cripple from when you roam -I also like the other elites.
3) Stun breaker that regens LF with a good amount of LF.
4) Corrupt Boon for that critical point in the fight!
I like it as a starting point it ticks lots of boxes!! I will bet that with use OP will drop SotH and QZ, for what? Not sure but he might see value in Spike trap and LR! I also bet he will drop Axe off hand and get Torch.
- a decent duelist in 1v1-3 situations, condition build only
i haven’t played WvW so can’t comment, but play a lot of SPvP and i do extremely well in duels, 1v1-3 situations and i don’t use a condition build. Just Sayin.
Thanks for the feedback, I should have written a bit more in the OP my bad…
This is a WvW build so it includes armor/gear that the builder can not account for.
The build will have more Precision and Power than what the builder provides for.
I am saving up the gold for it now so not sure what the final picture will be so asking for feedback!
I wanted a SB build which has over 50% crit chance (with food and armor and Fury it should go over 60%) while being able to manage melee attackers. ‘Manage’ means block and swoop away. I also want the crit to use the Sigils and be able to put out solid AoE damage in groups with GS.
Thanks
Seeing how this build revolves around Pizza so WvW some one told me forget Condition duration as you will never get 25 stacks up in a group so just go for a x6 runes of choice. Thoughts?
10/10/20/30/0 P/P
E. H / E. B / E. S / E. C / Crate
x2 Centaur / x2 Afflicted / x2 Krait
Sigil Corruption / Sigil Agony
Health 18,082
Toughness 1,989
Healing Power 769
Condition Damage 850
Power 1,041
Boon Duration 30% + 20% Elixir Duration from trait
Bleeding Duration 55%
Condition Duration 10%
Pizza 40% Condition duration so I hit both bleed, burn and posion increase
He uses 0/20/30/5/15 the build is Power/Precision focused and his traps are for CC and combo filed, Flame ticks for 400 with his 300 condi damage so its huge. (Bump for a cool vid and build)
I don’t think I’ve ever been eat’n in a 1v1. Its no problem to test the waters and if in a 1-2 mins the fight is not over I lure them to my group. Seeing as we have plenty of time to feel them out.
Seriously, that’s your game plan? So in other words you enjoy watching the garss grow?
0/0/30/20/20 GS / S+F
SoR / “Save Your Seves!” / “Retreat!” / SoJ / Renewed Focus
Valor: VI (5% Toughness as Precision) / V (Lose a condition every 10sec) / XI AH
Honor: II (Shouts CD) / VIII (Might boon to all on crit)
Virtues: II (25% Retaliation) / XI (Virtue of Resolve removes 3 condi)
Gear:
Full Knights (Toughness+Power+Precision) & Same stats Jewels
Food: Lemongrass + Stones
In-game stats:
Health 15,089 (/w 6% bonus from WvW)
Critical Hit 49%
Critical Damage 30%
Toughness 2,149
Power 1,906
Damage Reduction 10%
The build is insanely durable in zergs, I can easily get focused and make it out alive if I blow all CD’s (virtues) and Elite. Outstanding Condition management and fantastic mobility I have chased down rangers who have 25% boost and many ways to keep Swiftness up and I can run away when needed.
Looking for any insight from those with experience with Guardian on Mediation Vs Shouts, Sigils and Runes.
You guys need to check this out, you all recall the little melee Asura Ranger clips, 6 of’em to be exact, well he just went ranged!
Though the ability has a facing requirement to land, if done at the right moment -try to catch the other guy in the heat of the moment so he misses it and keeps attacking- it is serious burst!
20/20/0/0/30 Rifle+GS (GS Major trait from first line and rifle Major Trait from second line and max out the bottom line but don’t get the 30 point trait use instead the rally if you kill in vengeance).
If you want to RP and dive inside your mind into some fantasy that has you using a LB. Functionally, no you don’t the weapon design sucks due to damage variation with range.
OP I saw your target warp but not the others so it seems your connection and PC are solid. Having said that I know of a way back from the days of WoW to consistently produce what happened to you in PvP. Blizzard banned it many years ago because it gives an unfair advantage.
Either the guy genuinely has a slow connection or he is using that same ‘method’ that many WoW players know about.
Healing : -EXCELLENT
Initiative : EXCELLENT
Endurance: EXCELLENT
Bleeds that tick 1xx and are stacked every 3sec to 4sec
Spider Venom: Right before they heal
Devourer Venom: On CD pretty much
D/D: Heartseeker SPAM for lol’s
Edit: Sneak Attack (Pistol #1 from Stealth) is what P/D is about how often it hits small or large crits.
