Something like this?
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The only build that can reliably break off from a necro if you build for it is a sword thief with shadow step (withdraw works as well actually). Nothing else can safely disengage, but you do have to build with this in mind.
GS Ranger, I dare you the necro you are talking about and your ENTIRE freaking zerg to catch me!
Indeed Terror is nice against d/d lee but on my Bunker Power Ranger Necro has no chance…On my Engineer P/P condi same thing, even when I play my P/D Thief which I suck at due to limited game time with it necro is by faaaaar the easiest matchup.
Having said all that in a group or zerg Necro is amazing, loot bag farming machine…Target the boon happy guardian, get a good amount of condi up then corrupt and epidemic into wells….crazy! As they try to rez a foe, staff 2,3,4,5 then Epidemic and thats fun…Solo though not so much fun unless its off hours in a casual tier server.
Roamer classes/builds see necro as free kill because all of them can disengage and reset the fight while you can not.
Solo, they are all hard if we assume the other guy knows how to spec/gear and play.
Unless you FRAP it people won’t take it seriously…Sorry :/
I guess most of us have gotten used to finishing downed foe with pet swap for quickness…Anet wanted to take that away?
As someone that consistently played LB/GS in top 1000 turney games I can say that LB autoattacking never really was a thing. You played it for the other 4 skills which are all really good but also took advantage of petswap QZ. I am really curious how that changed now.
What kind of build did you use for that? As a GS/SB power BM these change look like the end of the style of play I enjoy the most.
I always find my self +1,000 with SB because I play a power GS ranger with birds. My damage comes from setting up my pet with GS Block—>Knock Down foe—>Daze/Stun for the extra pet damage and Pet F2 to land with Maul then I Swoop away 1,100 and swap to SB and immediately hit SB Snare which causes all my pets attack to bleed the snared target…at this point I auto attack until I see foe animation to heal and I hit SB 5 to daze/stun and then SB poison as they try to heal again…All of this is being done at 1000 to 1200 range!
I drop back to GS and Swoop in and do it again!
If SB drops to 900 range I still need SB for this style of play as its all about setting up my pet but now my foe -who should know SB range is 900- simply turns around and runs in the other direction as I swoop! If I use Axe which is far superior at 900 or less range over SB its the same issue and now I have to figure out how to interrupt the next x2 heals!!!
It breaks SB for players like myself who run melee and need a ranged off hand in WvW. I use SB for the utility…My weapon of choice is Great Sword and without SB I doubt I can make it work as a main weapon in WvW!
That’s silly. I run greatsword with sword/warhorn so I certainly don’t think you’re required to use a ranged weapon in WvW. When I want a ranged weapon I trade my sword out for an axe anyway, not a shortbow.
Our best chase-down ranged weapon setup is probably axe/dagger because that gives you both chill and cripple from range. And a 900-range shortbow will probably still do most of the things you want from it if you consider the greatsword you main weapon.
Greatsword and longbow is already a workable setup as well and the longbow is being buffed.
0/10/30/0/30 GS main and SB off weapon as utility and a source of pet bleeds.
My damage comes from my pet, my role is to setup my pet…SB is what I use against runners and to kite hard hitting melee at the +1,000 range (Swoop is 1,100 range every 9.5 sec) and for the pet bleed with SB snare.
If SB drops to 900 then why would I ever use it over Axe? Axe gives chill, weakness and the #4 and #5 could be a number of other weapons with evades or buffs or situational conditions that SB have….
That is what is meant by 900 breaks SB as Axe+X is far superior for my build, a power BM than SB at the same range!
What is worse is SB fit nicely with GS Swoop as I can instantly turn around and fire after a Swoop, now I can not. Once players realize this, they just ignore me when I Swoop :/
If you tell me to use LB then its the same, SB broken for this build.
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be happy guys, P/P is in a great place with multiple builds and this patch will gibe you piercing bullets for 20 points instead of 30 which is HUGE! AND if you spend 10 more points you get 5% extra damage from the minor an 2% extra damage per condition for the master! That a crazy amount of damage in a group focusing a target with 3 or 4 conditions.
It breaks SB for players like myself who run melee and need a ranged off hand in WvW. I use SB for the utility…My weapon of choice is Great Sword and without SB I doubt I can make it work as a main weapon in WvW!
Dagger off hand #5 ability Cloak and Dagger ‘Stab your foe and vanish in stealth, leaving them vulnerable’ has a range of 130.
My issue is frequent misses with the ability, I understand this is a player side issue due to lag or PC performance or hand eye coordination -just to name a few- but I am wondering if others are also somewhat frustrated after many hours of trying and still failing nearly half the time?
I’d pay three grand if you would post your real image, the laugh is worth it.
Wild Bill uses Venoms in his build, others put 20 points in the the last trait line instead.
Hi,
Been a while since I played Thief, thought on P/D for WvW that does not use Venom?
Any other wishes, after all they ARE free? How about Marks triggering on walls and siege weapons? Or downed foe? What about underwater marks…err wait what? I know marks on PvE boss target that is not mobile!
Is there such a thing as a ranged warrior roamer? Or is ranged solely a glass cannon setup sniper of sorts?
For the WvW who enjoys playing ranged, can you recommend a build?
Looks like we will be seeing builds that revolve around ‘interrupting a foe.’
Pistol Range and Piercing, I guess you must miss them…Reason I ask is I like WvW and half the time I follow a zerg and the other half I go alone to supply camps and just can’t figure out the pros and cons between your current build and the one you stared with that had range and piercing.
Corrupt Boon Condition Terror build is really nice in WvW when in groups, but as a roamer it feels out of water…Granted I need more practice but what do others think?
Here is my current build:
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1) What build and setup would you use to solo a camp? Upgraded camp?
2) As a roamer what setup/build to counter HGH Engineer?
It doesn’t count the stats from your underwater helm…..
When you are underwater the game subs your normal head for the underwater mask, yes or no?
Indeed running the Knight setup any 2 good players and I have 0 chance, ele+thief for example or ele and burst guard and its all over in seconds.
I have to learn how to set up my pet, that Warrior did not get hit once with my birds F2…Normally I bait my foe and pop GS block so he gets knocked down, I use F2 and GS5 for the daze/stun then Maul…If that lands its over…But against good players they seem to know how to get my pet out of the fight….
Great feedback, I don’t think I have ever read so much positive replies about any build before!
For a guide on the builds:
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<3 Cempa dropping in my vids to represent the Power Bunker Plunker =D
glad you liked it!
Last night I had a strange encounter with a Warrior, Sword+Shield and this guy hit harder than anything I have ever seen. I was using SB+GS at the time because I was moving across map and GS is just phenomenally good at covering great distances. As soon as he gets into melee range my HP bar drops like crazy…I kited him for a long time until his friends showed up, GS—>get out of dodge -I was kiting zergs with GS lolo
The point being what kind of sword+shield warrior could that have been?
PS Yah love the build especially that Thief’s are a joke with this setup and I love it when they go stealth and on my screen I see BLOCK, BLOCK, BLOCK (GS) then 3 sec AFTER that I see the Thief :/ -though good ele is a really hard fight and they burst like crazy- but with GS I think I have the best mobility in the game or close to best.
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Use food that reduces condition duration by -40%. Use Hoelback Sigil thats another -20%.
If you want power then start with cleric and soldier…Weapons cleric for sure…Rune Dwyana or however you spell it.
Now remember, this is a start and you will want to add some damage after that…
Knight Armour is going to be what you want to sub in as you get comfortable with the build and want more damage.
Cleric / Soldier / Knight : at a mix that makes you happy but allow me to link a video of the best WvW pure Bow Power ranger I have seen..he has 3 clips and you can see how he started in cleric in video one and ended up in knight and cleric by the last video.
When judging Axe damage what is the best way to do so? It stacks Venerability poorly, Focus #4 is the Venerability stacker. After Axe #2 and #3 are on CD you might as well stop attacking unless you swap weapons.
But if we look at Axe #1 as something we do in between retaliation, then is that not a better way of judging it? In that light Axe #1 is a really good skill especially ‘Traited,’ correct or …?
He has 3 clips, this is the 3rd. He decided to play a pure Bow WvW Ranger back when the forums were filled with whine about how weak Ranger is in the game….
If 5 guys couldn’t catch a ranger then they were really, really bad players. The ranger is probably the easiest class to catch and pin down by far.
How so, just asking? I run GS+Bow and speed signet…How exactly can you pin me down if I want to run?
That’s just the thing, why should ranger be 2 professions in one with 2 separate learning curves without the reward?
My :
- Necro: same build and gear in all parts of the game, I change one utility and thats it.
- Guard: same build and gear for all parts of the game, change to shouts and ready to go
- Engineer: same build and gear in all parts of the game
- Memser; same build and gear in all parts of the game
Ranger: change how I play, utilities change just to keep the pet alive, change gear, change spec
It is a standard build and a good one, both power and condition work you need to decide really! You can go all out survival with health regeneration food, Signet, BM Trait and use healing runes and keep regeneration up and then go play! If you feel its too much mitigation keep adding damage until YOU feel comfortable.
I have rather not good opinion about survi of only-ranged-rangers, but there was some funny builds for lb/sb.
also there are some funny build with melee-only.
and there are phew funny builds with combo melee-ranged
and.. which dungeons are “high end” for You?
I thought they all are :/ Ive only done a a couple of dungeons and really don’t want to go in using a WvW or PvP build.
…build wise that is. I know solo play and WvW and the build I use is 0/10/30/0/30 Cleric+PVT SB+GS/LB…But that is no build to take into high end dungeons.
Can a ranger be all she can be ranged? melee? or need it be both?
Pops in and says “OH HI!”
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Hi to the king of Bow PvP rangers! Do you ever play dungeons?
If your target goes ‘down super fast’ they have low effective health as in low mitigation. The weapon used has stats on it and that contributes and some weapons are more defensive in nature but in general its your stats that make the mitigation. Above and beyond thakittens a function of timing dodge and utility abilities.
Now having said all that, in my opinion -random stranger opinion in the internet lol- the best survival build for this class is:
0/10/30/0/30 -you obviously can move some points around but you get my drift. Geared with a mix of cleric and soldier for power builds and its condition counter part for conditions.
Thanks, indeed an aggressive build that is played with the mentality of kill or be killed!
How about dungeons? Its not exactly what people expect when they invite a Guardian is it?
Hi,
I found a tournament build made by Silven (http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQRApf7dlUgSDHHyNEfIFRuArHBEh+DXw1DIGxGC-jExAEEYySgoCgF3ioxCA-w) but wanted to see what you guys thought of it for PvE and WvW? Also how would you gear for it?
Thanks
…build wise that is. I know solo play and WvW and the build I use is 0/10/30/0/30 Cleric+PVT SB+GS/LB…But that is no build to take into high end dungeons.
Can a ranger be all she can be ranged? melee? or need it be both?
0/10/30/0/30 P/V/T + Cleric and then use whatever weapon set you like. GS+SB is my choice…
While the game mechanic insists on being able to play both melee and ranged ‘roles’ people are not that way….Some like to play 100% ranged and some like to play 100% melee and some don’t mind a mix.
Design a class like ranger that is best when using both melee and ranged and people will have problems!
So its been relegated to low priority, as in cry and pout all you want it aint gonna happen folks!
Not sure if this is a bug or not but SB auto attack stops every time I dodge. Auto attack is toggled on, just each and every time I dodge I stop attacking completely :/
Asura
I use a intensity condition build that focuses on Terror with a mix of carrion and rabid, with +40% duration food Terror is 100% duration and it hurts! I keep chill up really well between staff and DS.
Pop your elite early, I like to use it right off the bat with 100% HP…
Don’t see the 1272 Toughness and think its little, I assure you it is not, I can take a beating in this build.
One thing I can share is when I see an ele coming, drop marks if you have time other wise make sure you are in DS -stability- as he charges you and do your thing. Usually, they run away…
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Is building for 100% chill duration worth it? Axe+Focus / Staff and Spectral Walk+Pull and Epidemic to spread Chill in a zerg every 15 sec (so perma Chill on 5).
Several players have posted they play a Chill build so I thought to take a closer look at it, not sure it has enough damage to kill though :/
So what will Ranger bring after the pet damage nurf?
the same thing he brought before, a dead pet.
lol
OK good to know!