Guild Wars 2

on high settings, definitely depends on light and day/night
(HotM night/wvw day)

really wish halo during night was bit shinier

only 27k?

i got hit for 31k lol

i honestly wish ppl would stop playing decap engis, 90% of them suck and can’t even get decap…they just feed far point and cause 3v4 in mid, so team loses mid too…

0 contribution to team

nobody went home (as always), was defending home/mid pretty much the entire game~
dat 20 kills lol

p.s. was 5v5, 5th guy left when match was over

moar sylvari

i wouldn’t make jokes about it

there is thread with thief nerf wish list made as a joke about constant nerfs to the class where players made demands for ridicilous nerfs with ridicilous reasoning….. devs took it serious and nerfed choking gas…

and then you forget the fact that
- thief has to go full glass to do any meaningful dmg
- thief doesn’t have any stability, protection, blocks etc.
- thief has lowest HP pool in game and no traits that support toughness builds
- thief doesn’t have many (if any) hard and long lasting CCs
- thief barely has any team utility
- thief is very combo depended class, if combo fails you might end up sitting at 0 ini unable to do anything but AA

Now if you take all that into account, please tell me how should thief compete with other classes? The king of 1v1 is mesmer, the best support is either ele or guard, in team fights necros and engis have probably bigger presense than a thief. Warriors are just god mode atm. The only reason why thief is taken in pvp atm is their z-axis moblity and single target burst potential.

If stealth broke on blocks, every thief would play evade spec which trust me is way more annoying than BS one since you can still hit the BS thieves, evade thieves are actually way harder to kill.

Same goes for BP+HS, if that was nerfed, everyone would play evade spec.

If your suggestions were implemented then it would be fair to ask that blocks/aegis/protection will be ignored if hit from behind, chain CC shouldn’t work on thief at least.

If you think that bs thieves are that OP, i dare you to make one and duel ppl in FC arena. Something tells me they will kitten on you pretty hard.

pretty sure the biggest offenders are bunkers (guard, engi, war) and warriors in generall

nobody ever complained about transformation…

actually BP on target would be a buff lol, i would need to aim it to land it on target anymore, still will be able to get HS combo too, BS will be even easier

BlackBeard.2873:

Aeroxe.8140:

Decap engis are also becoming smarter, using box of nails when blackpowder is dropped.

Its…Its…ITS ALIVE!!!! Seriously, this build needs to die a fiery death, and it is pathetic that it exists. I am sad that like every game has about 3-5 decap engies in it simply because of the strength it brings to a team-fight. Its funny, because they are pretty much useless on Khylo (just stand against the fence and do not give that position up).

Also, just to make everyone feel better that every scumbag in the game runs this, a small anecdote:

It made my night tonight fighting against a decap engie on point with my bunker-condi ele, when right before this player uses his Overcharged shot – Magnetic shield. It was hilarious watching this guy not only blow himself back once, but get hit by his own reflected bullet and go flying an additional 450. If only I could reflect even more.

i witnessed skyhammer engi pulling himself into hole due to reflect… was priceless

someone made suggestion, that as long as you stand on point you won’t get knocked back but knocked down, i do like that idea… that would kill decap engi all together

same should go for hammer platform, you should get knocked down but not pulled on those – suddenly skyhammer is playable wat?

Eyia Hellhide.7320:

In my opinion it’s not the professions what’s broken. It’s the matchmaking. More than 2 players from 1 profession shouldn’t be allowed to be in 1 team. Having 1-2 warriors in the team is okay. Having 4 or 5 is not. But the same is with necros and mesmers. Teams made by 5 MM necros or 5 Mesmers are a nightmare.

Yesterday we were running 5 guardians team just for fun. We won 4 of 5 games, the lost one was very close. We were fighting good teams and 2 of our guardians was playing the class for a first time in PvP. It was really fun. But only for us.

5 thieves team would never win….i wonder why since they are so “op”~

ironically i actually did win vs 5 wars team but mostly because 3 wars on that team had 0 map awarness and were simply bad

honestly, i can kind of deal with class imbalance (yes, warriors need some nerf plz), i can deal with class stacking (eff that 5 engi match), but what i don’t ever want to be forced to do is 4v5 and skyhammer…sadly it happens too frequent :/

Juan Ignacio.8903:

valentin r u a troll or some kind of inbred monster? cant figure it out yet

Valentin is a ranger that cried about thieves in wvw because apprently he can kill them easily but they somehow manage to beat 3 ppl when Valentin is part of that group (ik, confusing). To prove his skill, he made this video as well as posting screenshot of his amazing pvp archives. I did offer him to make a thief and fight me (using any other common meta class/build) but he refused.

Yes, this guy is serious, yes he believes he is good player and doesn’t need keybinds. Also, according to him, people who invest some time learning how to play class and counter other as well as proper keybinding, are geeks.

I expect a lot of good from this thread.

As far as engi goes, devs did say that they are looking at how to deal with decap engi so i hope something will happen. I was unlucky enough to face Grouch “trying out” decap engi in yoloq the other day.

this guys would like to agree heh

Mirta.5029:

Cynz.9437:

no love for sylvari :/
1. texture clipping with own set pants in back area
2. oversized boots model, making legs look ridicilously fat and clipping with backpiece

The light version aligns just fine. What version is the clipping one?

medium

they won’t change Spirit Watch

LS is more important… GW2 will share same fate as CoH, say ty to NCSOFT

no love for sylvari :/
1. texture clipping with own set pants in back area
2. oversized boots model, making legs look ridicilously fat and clipping with backpiece

GIVE US kittenG READY BUTTON OMFGFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

is this supposed to be fun and fair ????!!!! and then you wonder why pvp community is so small? LOOK AT THIS CRAP, this is second 4v5 in a row…

pro cursor aiming

pvp/wvw is flooded with condi tanks and warriors… crit dmg is already getting nerfed with ferocity change…

there is thing like weakness that already makes direct dmg worthless + direct dmg gets affected by toughness while condi dmg isn’t

it doesn’t look like direct dmg is doing so great atm in comparison anyway…. more nerfs is just uncalled for

i had 4 skyhammer in a row today, then spirit watch, skyhammer, spirit watch, 2 forest, skyhammer…..

lkhjnlkytnhlsklzjmJLJMDÖUK;MÖLDfgWG, i am close to uninstalling this game

let us blacklist it at least, pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

i do it sometimes, because i am sick at tired of 1v3 enemy and my team can’t win 4v2 somwhere else nor cap any points…

they simply want everyone to run condi tanks apprently….oh well, we do have a choice either to join the zombie army of condi tanks or quit game heh

Can someone explain me why i can’t use cannon on point A due to “out of range” but enemy can?

ah i have this moments sometimes when i am too tired
i keep killing everyone, keep capping and yet we are losing wthhhh????—-wait, we won?…oh

don’t go cannon and die to undodgable dmg ok

that thread is from few days ago and got bumped after i made this one

Grimreaper.5370:

Cynz.9437:

Stogzlol.4795:

Sure, ele is going to get some extra healing and condi clear and still die in .5 seconds to thief.

you can do exactly same to a thief with d/f ele…=.=

Not a good theif…

eehhh…it depends… who gets the surprise effect hehe

..make it at least that you are invulnerable for sec while using portal. Mes sits on cannon, you get pulled into hole before you even loaded on the plaform…. 0 chance to dodge unless you used stability before entering portal.

Can’t dodge cannon.

Can’t use any gap closers over glass plaforms.

Randomly drop into hole when you are close to edge but not on the plaform.

Randomly get pulled under the map and never be able to come back unless relog.

Cannon is apprently an object and gives you revealed debuff if you use attack somewhere nearbly, same goes for side points.

How the kitten is it even fair?

Morderger.6298:

you can tell none of them play ele. The one that did jumped ship awhile ago.

just for you

Frenk.5917:

Jerry Attrick.5963:

Do we need to put our PvP armor in our locker on 3/17 so it can get “converted” or can we leave it on our characters?

This. Please, answer to this

^^this

+ is there posibility to transfer glory into karma maybe?
+ will we be able to use our backpices from pve in pvp?

Stogzlol.4795:

Sure, ele is going to get some extra healing and condi clear and still die in .5 seconds to thief.

you can do exactly same to a thief with d/f ele…=.=

I was always wondering how multiple ppl can’t stop one thief from going stealth via BP…. and finally after certain ranger crying about stealth posted his gameplay, it hit me…like a comet…how couldn’t i have through about it!!? Many players are clickers. It takes a while for a person to realize what happens + there is server delay + not many (outside of pvp) know you can interrupt BP + HS… now under all this conditions how can a clicker click the right spell fast enough lol?

don’t stand in BP….

powerr plays staff ele

idk who this warrior guy is tho

at least you don’t have fat legs like my sylvari and all other boots have same “fat” issue as well -_-

Yay, another 4v5 because 5th guy was afk and eventually got kicked by system from match for afk.

WTB ready button.

Chuck Zitto.2367:

Thief meta seems to be might stacking from singets atm. I been running this recently with 4 singets. 5 stacks of might per singet and 2 stacks from going stealth so 22 total might stacks. can get all 25 if you blinding powder and heartseeker through it twice and steal/stealth to your enemy. Singets all have pretty short cooldowns so you can burst somebody down again less than a minute later.

wat….

i didn’t see signet thief in spvp (or in wvw for that matter) in ages…

it shows more because of downed state but i died in 1 fear basically

it was dhumfire necro obviosly

my stunbreak is on 1 min cd…

Dee Jay.2460:

Juan Ignacio.8903:

how can u say that any class in this game is hard? -_-

Because many come from a LoL/DotA background where managing 4 skills is hard. Not everyone is used to WoW generation games with managing 50 skills.

i come from wow and mained rogue, i think i had something like 60+ keybinds on her and ironically i find playing thief in this game is actually harder…

yes, this game doesn’t have piano like spells bars but it can be a downside too

in wow classes relied more on passive survivability, including rogues (50% evasion, cloak of shadows = immuity to magic, combat readiness = kind of like pain sup etc), in this game you have very active defense, at least on thieves, where your positioning matters way more since you literary have no defense but stealth and dodge on thief and there is no holy trinity so you can’t rely on pocket healer like in wow

secondly, due to lack of spells you can do only so much in certain situations… my rogue in wow had many tools to keep enemy CCd or ways to dps or defend themself, in gw2 thief has only so much, it is more on reaction based than wow is imo

also, wow didn’t have such thing like combo fields/projectiles etc., in gw2 you have to be more aware of your enviroment imo

LoL is a bit different story, yes you have very few spells there but game is not based around playing one champion, as you decent player you should know how to play well many champions to be able to fill any role and counter enemy, so at the end you are once again sitting at 60 different spells

i have played wow, LoL and some other game and personally i don’t think that thieves are THAT easy to play as people claim and there IS certain depth to class simply due to gw2 combat and class mechanics

the most braindead thing i tried out so far in gw2 was hambow warrior tho… the build is so kitten one dimensional idk how people can enjoy playing it

and that is why we see multiple warriors at high end arena….mkay

this was done in 3 sec, gl dodging all that aoe while being feared non stop

condis can burst as fast as direct dmg if not faster

worse, the amount of condi comming from some AA (hello scepter necros) is simply absurd; i rolled that build for funzies on my necro, i killed ppl with AA alone….skill yo

i actually made hambow build on my war as backup for soloq… so…forgiving to play

idk how this is still allowed after so many months…

get pushed into portal on skyhammer on top of bombs, enjoy awkward camera and cluster kitten on screen

i am honestly rather curious how does 4v5 even happen…i had plenty of games where 5th person never appeared from begin with….

how is it possible?

outside of few nerfs here and there not much changed for thief really, still gotta run glass to do dmg, still end up dead if you make a mistake hehe

dueling they are pretty decent i would say, althrough certain builds/classes like PU mesmers are better

roaming still one of the best classes thanks to moblity

team wise, not much changed there really, nuke target, decap points, refuge rez, rez interrupt etc.

builds: s/d got nerfed so most people either run s/p for port -> PW spam or d/p trickery

d/d is only viable in wvw and HJ due to lack of utility and heavy reliance on CnD, but it is my opnion

there is full nerf and buff list on thief forums if you wanna see what changed

overall, thief in vaccum is ok, meta did shift to more AI and condi tanky build + hambow wars so picking targets while being spammed by endless condi aoe is bit harder now ._.

it is still fun class to play and does have it’s spot in team pvp, however pretty unforgiving so certain dedication/time investment is expected~

… your house is being rained with bombs dropped from military plane. Goverment handles you a fork for defense and tells you “Deal with it”.

You house: point on Skyhammer map
Goverment: Anet
Bomber: engi on hammer

I love being forced to play horse crap…

Remove it from soloQ or give us option to blacklist it, please. I will even pay 1800 gems for such option.

fix my sylvari legs plz

if only not the fat legs….

the fact that skyhammer is still in ranked just shows how much anet cares about our opinion…

skyhammer: you will crap and you will enjoy it :/

Amazing yet another set plagued by “fat legs” issue for sylvari characters :/

It looks terrible and boots are clipping with set itself :/

selan.8354:

Cynz.9437:

anyone who chose to play a lazy class that relies on computer doing the job for you, gotta deal with consequences

if it was up to me i would make them more of utility thing than main dmg source (like it is in many cases atm)

what the hell? that is the dumbest thing i ever heard! i played this class since launch and no class is a lazy class. plus memser had a lot non ai builds before all the nerfs destroyed that.id rather have less ai. so u are saying that everyone should play war then?or do u want just punish people for choosing a class they like?seriously take your hate speech somewhere else!

That is just rude… it is fine if you disagree but you don’t have to be so offensive.

AI makes up for mistakes of bad players ( you can CC player, but pet still is attacking you; you go in stealth to get better position but pet still gives you out; you actually down the player but pet can eventually kill you too and if you both are in downed state, ai class will win etc.) but it is indeed burden for good players since AI can do only so much hence why i said pets should be more of utility than source of main dmg like it is for some classes/builds atm.