Guild Wars 2

Jayne.9251:

But a good scout often runs counter to where teammates are on map so they can monitor what’s going on. Much like you guys will split to distract (it’s something I do myself on enemy maps), scouts will divide and watch and evaluate the greater threat to direct map alerts for response. They will often engage a group solo while typing out info in map chat at the same time. And even if they die, those precious minutes they were making you run around a bit to kill them is often enough time to have the team come in and wipe the enemy. Which we did..

If some of my mate on JS could understand this it would be fantastic. Scouts are needed but most of the player seem to act selfishly, and don’t give intel when they die.

BTW, this afternoon was pretty calm on BB BL. How do you like the way I kept Bluebriar? I think I destroyed 3 trebs and 9 cata, Keeping my tower from 17h00 to 20h40. (Don’t know how they are doing since then but hope they do a good job) . When [INC] inc Bluebriar and started to destroy our inner wall I admit that I panicked a little. Good thing that one of my mate build an AC on the lord room.
And at 19h15 someone claimed : “They will come at you! They will build trebs! Lot of trebs! This tower is to easy to take!”. Seem like he was wrong.

Dawdler.8521:

kursk.4890:

I win, the title is “the blob”, soon in all cinemas !!!!

http://es-es.twitch.tv/chemsorly/b/429985864 2:30 h of full time piken blob, but golden moment in 32:05, They are nominated for an Oscar.

where I collect my prize? nobody can better this!!! (on all bl’s equal).

Yes, that’s called attacking the most fortified position in the game, ie hills. Its more of a shock that you have no defenders – I’ve seen more enemies inside a tiny little keep.

Dadnir.5038:

BTW, I wonder if PS tactic this week is “Seize the south” on BB borderland cause your kitten annoying! Didn’t you saw that we got the outmanned buff from 16h00 to 20h30? And despite this we manage to keep Bay against the two of you.

I seem to recall being on BB this evening and we only held our side of the map with most commanders (3 of them at one time I believe) working the center and north. If you think that was “sieze the south” with random small man teams that barely saw any action (I was rather bored)… Its been nothing compared to the massive battles we usually to have covering the entire island, lol.

Like I said, each server play the way they want to play. Now, if you want to know what was on BB yesterday, I can give you a pretty good picture of it :
- Guild [Sprta] + few PuG -> 30+ (I don’t exactly remenber the sigle but “this is SPARTA”) and they were kitten tough!
- Guild [RunL] (seem they didn’t have any PuG) -> 20+ Interesting in team fight but [Sprta] can taugh you one or two thing. You lack a bit of CC.
- Guild [GoW] and [SU] -> 6 to 10 You really wanted Blueval right?
- Guild [EXE] -> 2 ;D

Yeah Scouting is boring but it give me a lot of time to count you guys ^^. And you seemed to like going on bay or blueval via bluebriar. I’m the bothering one that like to use AC #2 when you pass in front of me.

At a time you had nothing on JS BL, were extremely pressured on your Home Land but [Sprta] and [RunL] were already playing on BB together, I really don’t understand why one of this two guild didn’t try to go help on JS or PS. But, that’s what’s interesting, you are somewhat unpredictable and we have to adapt to that.

Well… what broke the balance ain’t Terror but Dhuumfire. Why don’t they just change this trait in something like “Do damage each time you chill a foe” It could open a chill build for powermancer which are the one in need for more chill on foes.

Well, i’m sorry Bogey but what you state ain’t true. As a JS Player, I’m used to play against Viz, SFR, Kodash, desolation or Elona (2nd week against BB) and I’d say, actually, your worst than them when it come to blob.

Last week, for exemple, against BB and Kodash we hadn’t this much lags… Well whatever, each server play the way they wanna play that none of our concern. BTW, I wonder if PS tactic this week is “Seize the south” on BB borderland cause your kitten annoying! Didn’t you saw that we got the outmanned buff from 16h00 to 20h30? And despite this we manage to keep Bay against the two of you.

Oh! And your fight on shaddaran seemed to be “Epic”. I hope one of you recorded it, I’d really like to know what happened here.

Well, your right about PvE, we are a very High pop server when it come to PvE but for WvW, we don’t.
You can have all the people you can imagine on one server but that doesn’t mean they play in WvW.
During prime time, our WvW maps ain’t full (some are but not all). BTW, that’s one of the reasons it’s pleasant to play on JS.

Luna.9640:

Piken is a medium Pop. Server while Baruch and Jade Sea are Very High Pop. yet ppl still pull the – Piken Blop joke lol.

Pathetic.

Jade sea? Very High pop? That’s the real joke. But thanks, maybe that’s a compliment that you think so.
Anyway, I was on BB BL yesterday and FD seem to be a pretty big Guild. You never let us rest with your 50+ raid guild.

Wompage.4586:

Cheeky bit of footage from Kodash borderland last night courtesy of Second Law

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSa1jzYuYl4

Really impressive! You really did a great job here, it’s almost frightening to see how tough you guys are. And Kodash played really well to, keeping there tower.

Just : Bravo.

It’s the end of our match-up. Gratz all and see ya!

ronpierce.2760:

Weakness is one of the best boons in the game, and this trait is offensive. And defensive. The class needs more class-mechanic defenses, not mandatory trait defenses.

Take your elementalist, give hin a staff, sit in earth attunement and enjoy ennemi perma weakened.

Weakness ain’t this mandatory nor this trait. WS was already a good trait even with the CD before. Most of the people complaint that condition are to easy too clean. Necromancer ain’t the best with the weakening condition.

Hakkology.3189:

There is only one thing that needs to be worked, fear itself.

Just not funny when your toon jumps down a cliff to escape a necro using fear :P.
Auto movement during fear should have some AI i believe, like not to jump down a cliff.

Otherwise everything looks to be in order.

Well I’d say that fear is more frustating then launch or push back but in the end it “come down” to the same.

And if you read the patch note :

Death Magic

Death Shiver: Vulnerability applied every 3 seconds while in Death Shroud has been increased to 3 stacks for 10 seconds (up from 1 stack).
Death Nova: Minions now deal damage when Death Nova is triggered.

I’ve only seen the first minute of the video and…

I’m a faaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnn! although… Where can I find some Quaggan brew?

I’d want to nominate this video for the most enterni… entraini… entertairning (well, hips… whatever the word is… hips) wvw video of the year!

The main issue of your screens Lepeon is that it only prove that you are 6 against 3…
(a Mesmer can’t count for 4 people)

Well whatever. See ya SFR and Viz… Not to soon :p

loseridoit.2756:

Errr…. condition removal is not evenly distributed among classes. If you want a quick explanation, then here it is.

Just… No.

All classes are equal in this regard. It’s right that some classes have to trait for while Necromancers have to trait for things that are a given for other classes. But that’s the way of this game. You have to adapt your build to cover your weakness. If you only boost your strenght you’ll just ended frustrated.
I play a vampiric power build and yeah, I’m really weak against condition damage. A P/D thief kill me in no time just like he will kill any other classes that don’t build against condition damage.

I’ve seen that you play a warrior. You’ve got tons of traits to prevent conditions. Adapt your build.

Batlav.6318:

nice post made my day

Me too…

It’s sad to see that I don’t even change my build that I had before patch. The only change that affect me is the major buff (Irony?) to vampiric that gain for me a whole 3 life point on hit. Well I was kicking butt and I still do. They change nothing on Consume condition that weren’t an issue before but seem to be one now. Why? I don’t know. Maybe we have new Necro that don’t even try our other heals. They change nothing on Minion to that are still the dumbest things in this game.

I don’t like the new spectral wall, I liked the previous more. Then what? I addapt and don’t complain. Dhummfire is… A GM trait. I’don’t give a kitten of it.

If you’re feeling Overpowered in a condition build, just know that with an Engi, a Ranger, a mesmer, a thief… all the other classes you can do a least the same, it’s just a matter of how you build your toon.

There a bad healskills and good skills in every classes.

Blood fiend is pretty good in a MM setup. Maybe you don’t like it (Hell I hate it) but some like this skill which is usefull for MM builds.

The same goes for Well of Blood. In fact Well of Blood is probably one of our best Healing skill because it’s a “Well” that’s tied to all the “Well” Traits. Plus, it’s a light combo zone which mean retaliation on explosion and cure condition on projectile/whirlwind.

Consume condition is good as an “Oh sh**t!” button that’s all. And I think it’s balance with the fact that we hurt ourselves with corruptions.

Truebanana.5936:

They did an advertisement video for their guild in the french gaming community few month ago, with really bloody hardcore from hell full mouse click. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gjMxoNBuZs
It only was one guy (found an other from one of their member, but it got deleted after we started to make fun of them) they aren’t really all mouse clicker, but it was funny to see a guild to try to recruit new members with that kind of video.

The thing i don’t understand with their logic, is they are against GvG when they are on the map, but they also did a few GvG. So does that mean that’s ok as long as it’s your guild ?

Amazing… Deso guys are 10-15 and they give them a hard time.

Erk I’m hitching for some WvW. But I gave up because I got 2 to 10s freezes every 20 seconds. 2 day ago I had a 1v1 against a SFR warrior that i almost down before a 10s lag. I barely manage to survive this thanks to a thief that was passing by. I’m a bit sorry for the warrior but I think he should try something else then GS. It’s to slow to kill someone with HB even if that someone is lagging like hell.

I think It’s all because of something awfully important in PvP :

Mobility.

I think Worst is the name of his/her toon ;p

Nop,

It’s most likely a 30/0/10/0/30
At lest 25 in spite because he gain might each time he is hit while below 25% health point.
10 point in death magic for greater mark
Stability on DS mean 30 point in soul reaping.
What i’m not sure is between blood magic and curse because he gain regen a few time and i’m not sure he have bleed on crit.

I think he use death embrace, pitefull spirit and close to death in Spite.
Greater mark is a must so 10 wasted point in Death magic
Soul reaping… feel like speed of shadow, Soul mark and foot in the grave.

He probably wear a knight or zerker gear.

Love your “pull down the cliff” part because as a necromancer I love to “fear down the cliff”.

Well actually it’s crit chance not crit damage though…

So what you’re saying is that when viz take something from us we carefully wait until you take it to attack and claim it.

You should try sometime to open a live map from millenium and watch the live event logger. You learn a lot from this thing about what each server do and don’t. Or you just open your map IG and see what happen for each server.

At the time I write this we have barely anything on our Homemap porbably destroyed by a massive golem rush from Viz, like yesterday and like the day before. We are pressed from the two side by Viz and SFR on EB and SFR just burn everything we try to claim on Viz border.

So what should we do? Just leave SFR BL where we got a least something because you don’t bother protecting? Just leave the game and don’t do anything in wvw for the rest of the week saying to you : “SFR, Viz, have fun together we on Jade we are going on holydays”.

It’s a pain but yeah we have a shortage on manpower because of the constant lag with “orange” since the 25/6 maj. So we are doing choice and that is mostly to try to keep what we got instead of fighting a dead end war where we are smashed after a long freeze.

Maybe you feel the same way we felt when we were against Viz and Deso. When a server has a shortage in manpower they choose what’s important and what’s not. Your BL defense is a bit weaker than Viz’s so yeah that’s where it’s easier to fight.

And, by the way a lot of Jade player don’t like golems attack. We are far from the level of Viz or Elona in this.

PS: “Orange” is our most common internet operator so yeah we are ton to have this ****ing lags.

Things is scepter is also fine on a power build. It has a decent damage base on #1, a pleasant attack speed and #3 can hit really hard. A snare is always welcome (thanks mister #2).
Dagger offhand to is Ok in a power build, especially in dungeons. The main theme for this weapon would be survivability. Range blind and condition transfert on #4 (Yes please!) + Weakness and a non negligible aoe damage (Your mate should thank you).

Horn is good when you’re really tanky and you have things you need to interrupt. I really like it in WvW. That’s where I think it shine the most especially when you’are using a Vampiric build. PvE wise WH damage are negligible and the interrupt ain’t essential.

Junkpile.7439:

Problem is that jade sea is kind of pointless server. They don’t fight against viz so why not transfer all their players in viz?

We don’t fight against viz? Do you even play?

Well I shouldn’t feed the troll.

Yeah I barely play in EB… So I don’t expect anything of EB ;p

Oh god…
- Blue again
- SFR… again
- Elo… oups Vizunah (feel like saying “again”)

So another match against the blind SFR thinking they never blob because they ain’t blobing they are doing raid in guild. Another match against VS that think they don’t have more people than any other server. Another match with tons of lootbags from Fleeing VS that prefer to jump from a cliff instead of fighting an even number of people. Another match against the super modest SFR.

It’s not a secret, JS have few small wvw guild. We’ve manage to reach this rank mostly with PuG. Just deal with it, we can’t play the way you think we should because we haven’t your several middle to large wvw Guild.
Just to be sure you understand. Last week, against SFR and Elona, the only time we used this so called mass blobing technique, was friday afternoon. Yeah! we manage to be, at our peak, 71 and we’ve moved from map to map. Seeing that Elona was keeping his map in touch, SFR runing maybe 20-30 pug on their home, 3 guild raids (20+) on JS BL (cough, cough I’m sure I just manage by some luck to see this 3 raids runing together, chasing 10 JS cough cough… Oh but no that impossible 60+ SFR couldn’t be caught doing this… I know, You were just doing a 3v10, 3 raids vs 10 JS. That must be this.) and a massive EB Blob (oups… no… You don’t blob that’s right… How will i describe the fact that you were 60+ runing together… Oh I know, you were training for some sport event, It was a Marathon). It appear that except your “Marathon”, I only came accross a 15-20 GD group from elona, that’s all (they are hard to deal with this GD Guys).

Feel like your raiding guild really enjoy JS BL, maybe you like us and you don’t know how to express this feeling. Maybe the weather is better on JS BL.

So… you got a close match against a mesmer and lose… That’s right?
So if you had stomp this mesmer before going down, the mesmer should have been on the Thief forum crying “Thief are OP!”…

Yeah! that’s right! Total nonsense.

Just admit you made a mistake there were Ogre hunter shooting a you and you didn’t bother with a stealthstomp or destroying the annoying fantasm killing you.

Edit: sorry after seeing it again I see that you rush (and that was your mistake) on the mesmer and actually tried a stealthstomp.

Just two words : Over Power.

Ranger got already buffs on weapon swap, with this you could probably stack fury an swiftness add nauseum.

Yep Covis, your totally and absolutely right, we are such badys on Jade, we can’t even compare to your holy greatness… Blablabla.

More seriously since the patch we have so much lags that the game is almost unplayable. I though they fixed this issue this night but freezes restart at 17h30. So yeah enjoy your lootbag, it’s free.

Envy.1679:

Dadnir.5038:

We still lack :
- Gap closer

deathshroud #2 bro

Miss 3 time out of 4. But yeah that’s one.

Batlav.6318:

yes but it last less and most ppl in the zerg usual runs with stability so it will not be as effective as we want it to be

True…
Overall after test, this patch don’t change anything for me as a necromancer. I’ll probably try some change and a DS power tank but nothing more. The change on spectral wall just bring it to be even with the gardian wall.
We still lack :
- Gap closer
- Reliable combo finisher
- Block or invul
- Endurance (No vigor, no mean to regen endurance = no dodge)
- sustain… Oh wait! Vampiric gain 6 more health point on hit for 1500 healing power. I must be bad mouthing.

So before patch, Necromancer where locked in and destroyed before could even do anything. Now, Necromancer are lock and destroy and they can’t do a thing about that.

clipnotdone.9634:

Illusionary Counter: This skill damage has been reduced to 50% of what it was. It now applies 5 stacks of torment for 8 seconds.
The leaked patch notes implied it was going to be 25%, so in comparison this isn’t to bad, but as a whole its not great. Overall the scepter is still in a not great place, from a condition standpoint, better, but worse overall.

Inspiration
Malicious Sorcery: This trait grants up to 200 condition damage while wielding a scepter (based on level), up from 50.
ANOTHER NEAT CHANGE, if only the Scepter was in a better place, since 150 more condi damage doesn’t fix its lack of reliable condi damage.

I have to disagree with you here. Even if scepter auto attack is reeeeaaally lame, this two thing are totally awesome in a scepter condi build. I tried a little for necromancer, thief and mesmer the new thing (torment) and i have to say that this condition synergize better with mesmer. Just confuse, block, swap staff and watch enemy die from a huge condition burst. Love it!

Overall, i think this patch is more a PvE buff than anything and i’m pretty please with it.

Ascii.9726:

with 200 healing power, my vampiric is doing:

28 damage, 27 healing.

and traited with 50% im doing;

42 damage, 41 healing.

Same here but with 300 HP. Overall i’m pretty please by the patch axe #3 is sweet with the boon strip.

Edit : Forgot to said that underwater DS#1 is totally hot now.

Seem like it will be almost the same, just less damage underwater…

land:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Tainted_Shackles

underwater:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Tainted_Shackles_%28underwater%29

There were some CoN on Jade BL yesterday Darkman maybe SFR was on queue at this time and they played some time on JS or maybe there is another guild with the same [].

I’ve got almost 40 witness of :
“What have we got on Woodhaven?
- Sfr, a [con]’s party!
- Chase them! No way woodhaven fall again today!”

And I know the difference between [CoN] and ZDs thanks . By the way, that was at a time where you had almost all SFR and ER BL secure while you got nothing on EB. And then ZDs entered in the dance and EB started again to be tainted in red before they really join the fight on JS.

Yeah I like to carefully watch how things turn for all maps while scouting a tower. That don’t change the fact that you were really strong yesterday, even without anything on EB.

Hi!

Nice fight today on our BL (Jade) against SFR. Mostly BOOM mixed with CoN. It’s a shame that I can’t scout dawn’s Eyrie and Woodhaven at the same times. But dawn’s Eyries needed some love and the Wood haven never said that he was leaving…
You only said “Hi!” once on Dawn… I’ve been so lonely this afternoon…… Almost no lootbags…

See ya!

Velron.3729:

If notes are real new meta = necros.

If Necro gain LF from spectral skills while in DS, that may be true. But a GC thief will destroy this easily. There is nothing else in theses note that could answers necro’s issue in the actual meta.

I to, do care about underwater fight. We already have DS4 underwater which is awfully bad.

On contrary DS2 is wonderfull and i don’t even use it with the chill trait.

Land DS and underwater DS are totally different things so I assume on contrary that DS5 underwater will be totally different from land DS5.

So I wanna know to. Will we have an underwater DS5 too or will this thing come in 8 or 9 month ^^.

The video is pretty old and the necro’s ennemi aren’t really lively. I don’t think what he did could be viable now. The meta is more focused on high paced fight with tons of cc to slow down your opponent and gain the upperhand with a higher pace. I was dying to see the necromancer using focus 5 to strip boon a little…
As a Necromancer I don’t think healing power will really help you in a D/D – A/F setup. When leveling (8 month ago already…) i tried Healing power but it’s not worse the investment. Not for solo player at least. And they never ever buff this aspect.

Thanks for targetting our tower wall before my treb SFR. Without it I’d had a tough job destroying your two trebs (even if i were worried that i won’t touch the farthest one).

I think It will be hard for us (MDJ) this week but it refreshing to see 2 really lively servers in front of us. I hope we will be a bit more this week to give you some good match to. Fighting against Viz last week was really tiring.

And yeah I wanna see this awesome 80 mans dolly escort to! I’d like to take some picture from foreign habits… Uh! But please… Refrain from doing it on MDJ BL!

Well true or not, I think the buff to companion’s might will negate the nerf to our pet’s damage.

I had hoped they add some base conditions damage to at least devourer but… Nevermind, anyway i don’t think my build will be really hurt by this patch except for the Short bow lost range, It will be a real pain in the a**.

I’m sorry for ya Desolation’s guys… really really sorry. You don’t deserve this, you must be cursed by Anet.

Well, Just axe mastery being downgrade from grandmaster trait to master trait is already satisfying.

I’d Just say : “At least!”

Near to death downed to master tier may be a little to much but i’d enjoyed it! A lot of what’s listed on trait change feel good for diversity. But will we have a DS5 to underwater DS to? That’s my new concern.

I’d really like to have a matchup against Deso but without Vizunah. It’s already the end of the match up and I don’t even really see ya from Deso. Not that you weren’t here, but I was to busy to try chasing vizuna out of our own BL to really see what you’re made of.

I hope for a nice match for all of us next week!

Homonavn.6348:

This will be fun!

1. Torment the enemy
2. Put down wells behind the enemy
3. Fear the enemy with terror trait
4. Laugh at the body of the enemy!

Great combo

That’s an ideal setup but most likely this condition will be “balanced” like confusion because of all the crys and tears that will follow the patch. Then in a pvp setup, torment will do (at maxed condition damage) 150dps on not moving foe and 300dps on moving foe. This probably won’t affect teleport skills and only walk/running.

Well… Sadly, i don’t see torment helping Necromancer at all. Seeing that thief will have it (actually leveling a thief and amazed by how easy it is to condition lock almost anything in PvE, yeah i’m only level 20 and with D/D you can bleed, cripple, poison, weakened, confuse, blind… almost at will) is already making me laughing.

I’m more interested in the trait change that they don’t talk about, because annoucing 2 new conditions for a class that is already Ok condition wise while not really Ok power wise it’s like giving water to someone that live on a boat and dream to step on earth.

PS.: I hope I’ll be wrong but do you think that we will have a DS5 on underwater DS to? If not, I’ll probably laugh to death (shroud)!

@mrmadhaze : I’m expecting the same things.

I main my ranger for Dungeons only (not fractal, because there a lot of jumping part where pets a totally useless since “guard” nerf).

I usually run a 0-20-5-15-30 with cleric stuff (wanna try apothicary later, I think it will give me more damage output). I’ve done all dungeons path with this build and it was, by far, my easiest experience in dungeons. Even against Simin, we passed it with 2 dps and my cat, while I was throwing tears. I know it’s counter intuitive but for dungeon i sacrifice some survavibility to pet’s damage and it end up to be pretty effective.

Well i’m not sure if my answer will fit you but, let’s try.

Firts of all, I aggre with you, Engeneer a really resilient. I play mostly a powermancer with vampiric focus (Yeah that’s not imba but it give me the survivability I need in most of the situation I encounter). The Engi you’re describing seem to be an HGH stereotype with load of boons and against boon there is only two ways to go :

- corrupt boons : mostly with our utility skill
- remove boons : focus skill 5 (this one is pretty effective against Engi)

And when they are down, condition transfert. Yes their down attack is a condition based damage skill. The elixir R heal should be reduce by applying poison effect. Oh and a last thing, flesh golem active skill on a down player bump him out of elixir R heal zone.

Atoss.1056:

Who would want a reward like this Even running as guild group is impossible.

on screen: there was more in the back, just the game doesnt show nameplates at that range x_x

Thats a pretty good screen of “Oh god! vizunah everywhere!” You’ve got here ^^

@Satkis: It’s sad but no server can have the whole picture in sight. Don’t worry we have our load of fight against Viz. Our homeland is always pretty lively with them (like yours maybe, but that’s another “Oh! god vizunah everywhere!” case ^^ )

And another day of “Oh god vizunah everywhere!”…
Hope we don’t face them next week (that don’t mean i want to face Elona…). We barely rebuilt what Viz destroyed on our HL before primetime. I Hope our guys manage to resist again the green machine. Well, I’m looking at live map and see that one of our tower has been downed lately… All this work destroyed again by the green machine…
We will keep the hard work!

PS.: You know, now, there aren’t tiers so all matter is ranking for server. That’s a way to reward lower rank when they gank against a higher ranked server.

Well, as a Necro, i don’t have any issues when it come to stay in a fight (untill I drop dead ). My major issues is to force my foe to stay in to. Most of the other classes are a pain to root/chill/cripple and being forced to use a trait (Again with the “I must have this trait”) to cope with our evade/mobility/invulnerability issue is a pain.

Don’t get me wrong, I love DS. I think it’s a wonderfull mechanism but most of the trait that’s related to DS feel “nerfed”. CD on “on use DS skill”, short boon duration… etc. There are a lot of way to improve Necromancer and maybe some will be done. I’m used to wait, so I’ll wait ^^.