Guild Wars 2

Striker.9413:

The old list was clean, elegant, and easy to scan.

hmmm agree. but if we get new sets of living story achievements every month then it will become a very long list.

The additional categories were unnecessary. They only made the list 10 items longer and requires additional clicking to navigate to the category you want. Some categories only have a single sub-category anyways.

perhaps this mean there will be much more categories introduced in the future?

The individual achievement “list” is now a zigzag of icons. This makes it more difficult to scan and compare differences. The long progress bar also showed more detailed progression.

maybe we need some time to get used to it.

Finally, the icons only show the titles of the achievements, not what you need to do. You have hover over the icon. The old one showed the task to complete without an additional action.

hmmm a slight inconvenience. perhaps will need some time getting used to as well.

Overall, the interface requires far more actions from the user to get the same amount of information.

this, i agree. i hope it should save the last viewed category so i dun have to click so many times. time for a survey for that!

emikochan.8504:

If you really cared about “being competitive” on Achievement leaderboards you’d do whatever it takes.

hmmm yes, this too.

perhaps those people want to be competitive but refuse to put in those extra effort?

Sorin.4310:

I don’t see how trading complaints about the leaderboards for complaints about the removal of the leaderboards is a step in the right direction. Or a step at all.

hmmm you got me confused now. O_O

Jack of Tears.9458:

Alotta people just type “kitten” by themselves now, instead of waitin’ for the board to do it for them; it’s become something of an inside joke on the forums.

So get your raggedy kitten in here and enjoy the show. ;P

hmmm question.

Do not circumvent the word filter. The Support Forum, like the game, is filtered for appropriate language. Any attempt to circumvent this filter will not be tolerated including the use of “creative spelling” or of forum names or signatures that contain a word that is censored by the prohibited words filter.

if we type kitten ourselves, is it considered as “circumventing the word filter” ? O_O

holodoc.5748:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Lunar Sunset.8742:

2k achievement points would have been more fitting.

Btw, u jelly brah?

or even more!

those 30/50 or 50/50 is not easy to achieve !!!! hnnnngggh

And they all contributed to GW1 achievements which resulted in titles. HoM was just a way to easily follow game progression in GW1 but people started looking at it as something which was supposed to guarantee them a better start in GW2.

lul better start. them rewards are just some fancy skins and titles!

well, unless their “better start” means better looking armor then yeah … better start.

i still remember how “fugly” some of the starting armors are.
well, for me, that is.

Paulytnz.7619:

I think part of the reason they added the leaderboards was to try and stimulate usually competitive people into trying out more things in game that usually they didn’t bother with. Such as people who usually gave up after first failing a dungeon or jump puzzle.

I thought perhaps now these people who are usually competitive might retry and try other things in game to try and get them out there and doing them. So I never thought of the leaderboards as a bad thing with that regard.

But now we have these reward chests I guess that could fill that role. Problem is they have already created a few “I’m the top of the list elite”s now it might be tough to just simply remove.

hmmm. i think you are right.

what about drastically increasing the achievement points for achievements that are much harder and time consuming to achieve?

Lunar Sunset.8742:

2k achievement points would have been more fitting.

Btw, u jelly brah?

or even more!

those 30/50 or 50/50 is not easy to achieve !!!! hnnnngggh

Paulytnz.7619:

If you ask me there must have been a reason Anet added these leaderboards in the first place. They either thought there was a big enough playerbase who cares about it or wanted to try and create such a playerbase.

In either case I really doubt they would remove such a thing now or not respond to such issues when clearly there is going to be such a moan about it on the forums.

hmmm true. well, i have no idea why they introduced it though.
i have seen more complaints regarding achievement points ever since the achievement points leader boards were introduced.

Paulytnz.7619:

But you are asking for the removal of the leaderboards entirely which means you don’t care about them. My suggestion is that they ONLY remove our extra AP’s from GW from the LEADERBOARDS and NOT our in game rewards.

So really it should not bother you. Why remove something from the game that you don’t care about which clearly others do? That’s like saying “I don’t care for Jumping puzzles let’s remove them”.

hmmm. true, i dun care about the achievement points leader boards. to me, them achievement points leader boards brought more harm to the community than good.

though what you suggested may be a good alternative, to me, it sounds like too much work. outright removing it is much easier.

for the jumping puzzle example, well, jumping puzzles were originally part of the game, hence, should not be removed.

achievement points leader board is something added on later.

if it brings more harm then good then removing it is justified. from my point of view, that is.

Conncept.7638:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Paulytnz.7619:

No keep them, just remove any AP’s from GW1 out of them.

Let us keep our AP’s for the rewards sure no problem Anet can do that AND deduct them off the leaderboards. Not hard to do I should imagine.

For the record I have 300 points from GW1 and really don’t care about the leaderboards but it’s obvious many players who played GW2 ONLY do care.

hmmm. nah. i prefer to keep my extra achievement points from guild wars 1.

the way i see it, the bulk of the complaints comes from people whining about unable to “compete” in the achievement points leader board.

remove the achievement points leader board.

problem solved.

I’m sure the tens of players who actually care about the leaderboard are outraged.

sure they will definitely not be happy if they care.
but no worries it will die off very quickly and silently when more rewards are introduced etc.

people are very forgetful.

remove the achievement points leader board!

people will always complain!

Paulytnz.7619:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

it is fair. those hall of monument achievements takes a lot of time to achieve.

Yes but when we were doing them we were not doing them for AP’s now were we, in fact I bet 99% of us didn’t even know they would impact on AP’s or that AP’s even existed in GW2.

It was the shinies (skins) that most of us were after and titles.

yup! the skins!
i stopped at 31/50 though.

must find time to grind the remaining 19 points.
hnngggghhhh

Paulytnz.7619:

No keep them, just remove any AP’s from GW1 out of them.

Let us keep our AP’s for the rewards sure no problem Anet can do that AND deduct them off the leaderboards. Not hard to do I should imagine.

For the record I have 300 points from GW1 and really don’t care about the leaderboards but it’s obvious many players who played GW2 ONLY do care.

hmmm. nah. i prefer to keep my extra achievement points from guild wars 1.

the way i see it, the bulk of the complaints comes from people whining about unable to “compete” in the achievement points leader board.

remove the achievement points leader board.

problem solved.

Vayne.8563:

I wouldn’t mind seeing them gone…but then some people like them. I don’t really see the purpose of dailies and HoM rewards are counted though.

well, i don’t see any purpose for them not counting though.

do you want achievement points leaderboards removed?

yes? no? why?

for me, yes. please.
it would reduce a lot of complaints on the forums.

thank you!

it is fair.

well, i dare say 500 is not enough.

we deserve more.

it is fair. those hall of monument achievements takes a lot of time to achieve.

but the boosts are optional.

and does not guarantee a win.

Monsoon.2589:

If the Asura had a time machine then it would be much better used in revisiting the past and letting people explore GW1 with the gw2 engine. This would enable people to see what was GW1 without having to go back to those awful graphics (compared to GW2).

hmmm yes that would be nice, but it would take time to recreate guild wars 1 content in guild wars 2 engine.

in the mean time, lets hope for an asura time machine that allows people to revisit past living stories content.

that’s why we must have an asura time machine!

FlamingFoxx.1305:

^— Actually the majority of the patch notes have been released no more than an hour, and quite often after, the patch goes live.

They aren’t at work at the moment… So I think you kind of have to forgive them for not posting them.

dur.

well i still think it would not do much harm if they post the patch notes like 1 or 2 days earlier.

i support the node decay concept !!!

they always post patch notes few hours before patch goes live.

i just wish they post them up earlier.

patch notes please!

new patch is here soon.

please let us have the patch notes.

thanks!

i remember they said due to technical issues they cannot to item stacking for pvp locker armor weapons etc.

i.e. “we dun wanna waste precious database space”

new event month very soon.

i am sure they are people who would want to do the mini games together with their friends.

let their voices be heard!

do they bounce up all the time?

was it some kind of rare graphical glitch?

FlamingFoxx.1305:

But there is no reason for them to exist before we have access to the content. You can’t make use of the guide if you can’t enact the instructions, so waiting until the content was actually released before having such detailed instructions makes more sense..

hmmm well i can think up one reason at least ahah. that being:
1. know what to do and plan ahead perhaps?

though i can’t enact the instructions, i can read them up first in advance, and when the content is out, i can “blaze” through them “quickly” to “fill up the achievements bar” ASAP then get on with other things. :p

same mindset when i ask for patch notes to be released earlier so i can read them before the patch is live.

hmmm i think there is not much harm with reading things in advance.

everyone will get their rewards.

it is a matter of time.

just what is wrong with those people asking for resets? just ridiculous!

Lothirieth.3408:

Really boggles the mind that they’re doing this again.

they are very clear with their stance on this.

i guess the ones complaining will need to accept it and deal with it themselves.

i am not complaining.

i have somewhat limited time to casually play guild wars 2.

well, since the achievements are a limited time thing so i strive to complete all of them before the event is over.

i refer to dulfy ’s guild wars 2 guides to complete those achievements more efficiently and will have more time for myself.

i do not complain about not enough content etc.

JustTrogdor.7892:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

if they started selling these on the gem store, would people buy?

- blood effects pack
- death animations pack
- etc

No. Also please don’t start a “Survey:” thread about it.

haha relax even if i start a “survey” thread, it will die off quickly if there are neither positive or negative feedback for it. i.e. people ignore it completely.

if they started selling these on the gem store, would people buy?

- blood effects pack
- death animations pack
- etc

from here:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Structured_PvP#2-Team_Quick_Tournaments

The winner receives a Match Win Reward Chest, 200 rank points, and 200 glory, in addition to any rank points and glory gained during the match.

winning team only receives:
+200 rank points
+200 glory
x1 [Match Win Reward Chest]

losing team receives:
nothing!

lets increase that!
what about …

winning team receives:
+500 rank points
+500 glory
+ [final team score] rank points
+ [final team score] glory
x2 [match end bonus] glory
x2 [match end bonus] rank points
x1 [Match Win Reward Chest]

losing team receives:
+ [final team score] rank points
+ [final team score] glory
x2 [match end bonus] glory
x2 [match end bonus] rank points

for example, Red 500 vs Blue 400
red team members get
+1000 rank points
+1000 glory
x2 [match end bonus] glory
x2 [match end bonus] rank points
x1 [Match Win Reward Chest]

blue team members get
+400 rank points
+400 glory
x2 [match end bonus] glory
x2 [match end bonus] rank points

so … what does everyone else thinks?

lets take a look:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Structured_PvP#2-Team_Quick_Tournaments

The winner receives a Match Win Reward Chest, 200 rank points, and 200 glory, in addition to any rank points and glory gained during the match.

at the moment, there is only this:

winning team gets
+200 rank points
+200 glory

now, what if,

winning team gets
+500 rank points
+500 glory
x2 rank points bonus at end of match
x2 glory bonus at end of match

losing team gets:
+ match end team score rank points
+ match end team score glory points
x2 rank points bonus at end of match
x2 glory bonus at end of match

i.e. if lost the match 500 vs 499, losing team still gets +499 rank points, +499 glory etc. as well as double rank points and glory bonus from end of match.

so what does everyone else think?

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

Hotjoin should and can stay. It’s good for casuals or fun-play. But it shouldn’t be rewarded more than competitive play. There should be a point-limit per match (300 is too high). This is just generating Zerg-farming and favors grinding more than strategical play. I hope you can agree with me on this.

hmmm i do agree that non tournament casual 8 vs 8 sPvP should not have the potential to generate more rewards (glory, rank points) than tournament play.

instead of reducing, capping rewards (glory, rank points) in casual non tournament sPvP, what about increasing rewards in tournament?

and how would you define an act of griefing as?

DevO.9854:

I would not be denying them anything, everyone has the option to rent a server for whatever they wish to do with it, as I stated it is very cheap to do so.

by requesting for 8 vs 8 to be removed is denying them.
the 8 vs 8 are already readily available.

removing something that is readily available and then forcing people to pay up for something which was taken away from them.

this is not right.

ooo what was their reply? O_O

hmmm nah.

hot joins must remain.
hot joins is a true casual sPvP experience.

please don’t take that away.
now imagine if there is no hot join in team fortress 2.

choon.6308:

No, everybody is hanging outside the dungeon normally. I never use gw2lfg either. But it’s always empty and contested in this server.

I moved to US so I wanted to transfer to a NA server. I didn’t know this server was Oceanic.
I’m too depressed to talk about it now because my money has gone to trash

are you in a guild?

i think they are NA guilds inside Sea of Sorrows server too.

by the way,
i think it is very wrong to call people who PvP in PvP area griefers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griefer

A griefer is a player in a multiplayer video game who deliberately irritates and harasses other players within the game, using aspects of the game in unintended ways.

PvP inside PvP area is very much intended.

well, hot joins have more players.

up 16 players versus 10 players

of course the potential to earn more points is there.

more points, more glory, rank, etc.

Remove the word tournament from sPvP.
it is could be intimating for casual sPvP players.

rename and split into:
1. Random Arenas
2. Team Arenas

5 vs 5 and make it behave like they are in guild wars 1.

- if lost game, go back to lobby
- if won game, keep on going, until lost.
- if won 10 games straight in Random Arenas, fight Team Arena next

etc

with this setup, without the word “tournament” maybe can “encourage” more players to try out non 8 vs 8 hot join games.

google definition of arena:
https://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+arena&oq=define%3A+arena&aqs=chrome.0.57j58j59j62j61l2.4462j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

a·re·na
/??r?n?/
Noun
1. A level area surrounded by seats for spectators, in which public events are held.
2. A place or scene of activity, debate, or conflict.
Synonyms
ring – scene – lists

DevO.9854:

I generally believe Spvp is a bad thing and I’d much rather see it gone. Its not competitive or educational, on top of that it makes less people play in actual tournaments.

it is casual, and it is working as intended.

did it occur to you, that, people do not play tournament, because they did not want to?

they just want some casual sPvP.

and who are you, to deny them of their rights to play some casual sPvP?

well, i dun think capping rank points is good.
ranking up in sPvP already takes a very long time.

as for scaring away new players in hot join,

well, if they are so easily scared away just like that,
perhaps they do not belong in sPvP?

^^ aye, strength in numbers!

^ well, more guns work too!

people forget that guild wars 2 is a team game? -_- ;;;

^ aye, what Dawdler said too.

and i think many people prefer to do dungeons with a full guild party too.

^ aye, what Romek said.

perhaps the EST time zone players were not doing CoF as often when you were online that time.

anyway, why did you transfer over?