Guild Wars 2

Burr,

tis the warrior forums, we flip tables every day here!

(?°?°??? ???)

dear fellow structured pvp players

from here,
http://www.dragonseason.com/activity/390/

Attribute Point Changes
• Attribute points on equipment have been increased by ~30%

lets assume worst case scenario and they just lazily decide to increase the stats of pvp amulets by ~30% just like that, leaving us to rot with no further mix and match of our stats, but let’s not all lose hope shall we? all is not in vain yet, since it is not 23 june 2015 yet, soon, but not yet.

so, from here:
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/PvP_Build

we take total stats points of normal amulets
(650 + 650 + 932) x 0.30 = 670

we get that, total increase of 30% would be around 670 stat points.

now, what if, we shift these 670 stat points into pvp runes instead?
at least we still get to mix and match around a bit.

for example,
Superior Rune of the Trooper
(1): +25 Vitality
(2): +35 Toughness
(3): +50 Vitality
(4): +65 Toughness
(5): +100 Vitality
(6): Shouts remove a condition from each affected ally.

total 175 vitality 100 toughness
it could be
600 vitality 345 toughness { 175 / 275 x [(175 + 100) + 670] }

just an example.

however, this means there would be a lot more work for them.
unfortunately, this may not happen.

they will just lazily update the pvp amulets.

sad.

anyway, discuss!

• Added an option to lock the ground target marker at maximum skill range, preventing the marker from being placed out of range.

just wanna say thanks for this

just distribute the stats between amulet and some jewels, say 50% amulet 25% jewel 25% jewel then we’re good.

NO.

IT WILL NOT CONFUSE NEW PLAYERS AT ALL.

they better introduce more pvp amulets options.

the current choices are very boring.

gg balanced builds with balanced stats.

BurrTheKing.8571:

Sooo…they potentially did what I said it should do a while ago and everyone yelled at me and called me stupid. -_-

why they call u stupid?

it is the way it should be.

good change.

pls explain quick breathing

nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu kittenuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

seems like i overreacted earlier.
i apologize for my previous actions.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/June-23-Specialization-Changes

Adept
Quick Breathing: Reduces recharge of warhorn skills by 20% and causes warhorn skills to convert 1 condition on affected allies to a boon.

what if, banner skill, Sprint recharge time is 5 seconds instead of 15 seconds ?

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Sprint

“Run forward with your banner, ignoring movement-impeding effects.”
Range: 600
Crippled Condition Effect Ignored
Chilled Condition Effect Ignored

since movement-impeding effects are gonna be ignored on leap skills, Sprint might as well get the same treatment.

discuss!

Pandeh.5248:

Why discuss, they wont give a dolyak anyway.

but its our rights to discuss!

well, at least the moderator who moderates these warrior forums gives a dolyak.
i was infracted earlier and had my original topic purged when i stated the facts.

dear fellow warriors,

what if, the very soon to be nerfed quick breathing removed 2 conditions instead of 1 as planned?

Quick Breathing – Reduce 20% recharge on warhorn skills. Warhorn skills remove 1 condition.

discuss!

dear fellow warriors,

what if, our defense line minor adept trait thick skin is to be

“Thick Skin: Gain 200 toughness while you are above 50% health.”

better?

discuss!

Nightmare Of Zg.6059:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

ah, i would be, very, very kittened, sad, disappointed if they poorly worded it.

I would not be surprised if it was just poorly worded after the tactics trait line fiasco

eh, what was the tactics trait line fiasco about?

Kagamiku.9731:

Looks like they did unless they poorly worded it.

ah, i would be, very, very kittened, sad, disappointed if they poorly worded it.

Thuggernaut.1250:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

did they made cleansing ire grand master ?

yep. and they didn’t separate out the “embrace the pain part.”

aye, its okay, i believe we’ll still take it anyway.

but did they restore it to what it was?
i.e.
“Remove a condition for every bar of adrenaline spent.”

from dulfy’s notes

“Cleansing Ire: Gain 1 adrenaline whenever you are hit. Remove 1 condition per bar of adrenaline spent when activating a burst skill.”

did they restore cleansing ire to what it was originally?
i.e.
“Remove a condition for every bar of adrenaline spent.”

did they made cleansing ire grand master ?

aye, thanks Ozzrel and Cygnus for the second feedback!

hmmm yeah Ozzrel, you are right.
well, being a warrior player myself, i am only used to 25% or 33% increased movement speed increase, i think thieves can have 50% movement speed while in stealth but i dun play thief often so i dunno how 50% feels like.

well i guess this topic has served its purpose and ran its course.
thanks everyone for participating!

by the way, Ozzrel, my reason would be “but … what if, it could be better?” which is not really a good reason anyway.

for example, the last example,

Warriors Sprint
“Run 100% faster wielding melee weapons while running toward foes. Movement skills break immobilize.”
Radius: 1500

would meant that the warrior loses the constant 25% movement speed, and only gains 100% movement speed when running toward foes from 1500 distance onwards.

if the warrior attempts to run away, he loses the 100% movement speed.

this is overpowered?

thanks for the feedback, everyone.

but, honestly, did everyone of you even read what i wrote in detail?
or ya all just saw the title and react to that only?

i dun see anyone quoting what i wrote in reply.

yet, selfish, greedy warrior haters continue to claim warriors are too powerful

dear fellow warriors,

the proposed new warriors sprint
“Run 25% faster wielding melee weapons. Movement skills break immobilize.”
does seems quite good, well, at least, better than what we have now.
but … what if, it could be better?

what if,
Warriors Sprint
“Run 25% faster wielding melee weapons. Run 50% faster wielding melee weapons while nearby foes. Movement skills break immobilize.”
Radius: 600

if too powerful, what about?

Warriors Sprint
“Run 50% faster wielding melee weapons while nearby foes. Movement skills break immobilize.”
Radius: 600

too weak?
then … ?

Warriors Sprint
“Run 100% faster wielding melee weapons while running toward foes. Movement skills break immobilize.”
Radius: 1500

discuss!

Archon.6480:

Just make them move slower and give them more skills to knockback, cripple etc… They should NOT be able to outrun everyone like little fairies…

now, now, please be reasonable would you?

if you made them any slower, they would never catch up with anyone to deal any melee damage.

i hope all 5 rampage weapon skills will be physical as well as -20% recharge time.

elite skills are supposed to be powerful.

of course.

warriors have received way too many unjustified negative adjustments, it is about time they received some positive ones.

3 or 4 is much better than what we have now.

make that 6 jewels.

we had way more customization options during 1st beta weekend 3 years ago.

i dun think that will happen because f2 is the new burst skill.

maybe f3.

warrior shout bow is balanced, stop spewing lies all of you.

Choppy.4183:

I believe they also said the numbers on gear would be increasing a bunch as well.

those would be primary stats (power, precision, vitality and toughness) which does not include non standard secondary stats (condition duration, boon duration) so yeah this is not acceptable.

clear cut builds are boring.

well Sigmoid, thanks for the feedback, i’ll just copy paste my reply from my other topic into here:

Sigmoid.7082:

This is happening to all classes since stats are removed from trait lines and into gear.

Think if you want condi or boon duration noe you have to spec for it since its no longer free from trait lines.

yes, and if we sit quiet and do not give any feedback, they will just shove the new changes down our throats violently.

removing stats such as vitality, power, toughness or precision may be fine to a certain extent, since they will be buffing the base stats somewhat, from 926 to 1000 and is just a 74 points increase in each stat, and a total of 296 increase.

really a pathetic amount if you ask me, since we get 300 points increase now by simply maxing out a trait line.

unless all the pvp amulets will get 600 points increased, we’re all getting nerfed hard in the stats.

unacceptable.

well, Juba, yes, we seems to be getting some good things for strength line, but why remove the +30% to condition duration?

it is okay if they add extra stuff, but to take away existing stuff, that is bad.

cannot accept.

Sigmoid.7082:

This is happening to all classes since stats are removed from trait lines and into gear.

Think if you want condi or boon duration noe you have to spec for it since its no longer free from trait lines.

yes, and if we sit quiet and do not give any feedback, they will just shove the new changes down our throats violently.

removing stats such as vitality, power, toughness or precision may be fine to a certain extent, since they will be buffing the base stats somewhat, from 926 to 1000 and is just a 74 points increase in each stat, and a total of 296 increase.

really a pathetic amount if you ask me, since we get 300 points increase now by simply maxing out a trait line.

unless all the pvp amulets will get 600 points increased, we’re all getting nerfed hard in the stats.

unacceptable.

the newly proposed Warriors Strength grandmaster minor trait “Stick and Move” seems to have gotten a 7% buff from 3% as it is now into the newly proposed 10% instead.

this is the proposed one:
“Stick and Move – Get a 10% damage bonus when endurance is not full.”

however, what happened to our +30% condition duration increase?
this is unacceptable!

it should be like this instead:
“Stick and Move – Get a 10% damage bonus when endurance is not full. Condition duration increased by 30%”

discuss!

Kamikazi.5380:

15% recharge is applied to baseline, Anet said during the core specialization stream that all classes are getting 15% recharge to their profession mechanic, the other 15% will be in traits, specifically the grandmaster minor trait of their original profession mechanic trait line.

So it’s a buff, not a nerf.

i see, thanks!

but then, warrior’s tactics trait line is definitely getting nerfed hard.
we have 30% boon duration increase now but they are gonna butcher it down to 10%.

lets discuss over there shall we, everyone?
thanks for the feedback everyone!

the newly proposed Warriors Tactics grandmaster minor trait “Inspiring Presence” should increase boon duration by 30% and not 10%.
also, the outgoing healing increased by 10% is not needed, should be removed.

currently, what they proposed:
“Inspiring Presence – Boon duration and outgoing healing increased by 10%.”

it should be like this instead:
“Inspiring Presence – Boon duration increased by 30%.”

discuss!

the newly proposed Versatile Power trait reads:
“Gain might on weapon swap. Burst skills recharge 15% faster.”
it should be 30% as it original is, as of now, not 15% as proposed for the future.

hence,
this should be proper.
“Gain might on weapon swap. Burst skills recharge 30% faster.”

discuss!

ncsoft does not approve, so, no.

ah, i see, so the core specialization + elite specialization were not ready yet.

thanks Elegie and Spartacus for the feedback!

hello, fellow warriors!

so, anyone played warrior in the closed beta ?

are the new traits system in place yet?

no?

:(

Teutos.8620:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

do you know that the treb kills archers and gate keepers in one shot?

Well, than the treb seems to be bugged. It only dealt about ~20% damage per hit last time I used it.

hmmm i am not sure, in my previous strong hold beta experience (not today) the treb seems to be one shot-ing archers and gate keepers.

did this got changed in this beta?

nicknamenick.2437:

Why issnt treb a ground targeting skill??

I find it really annoying to predict.. treb just feels clunky (all trebs!) dont like it.. gimme a skyhammer targeting skill or something..

I think the #1 problem with treb is > its just not fun to use it!

yeah i agree that the treb is not very fun to use.
or to put it in other words, the treb takes some skill to use,

Mizuira.8245:

I (and my team) never used the treb and won 90% of my match (12-13).

Treb can be powerful but 1 or 2 mate is enough to def your doors/lord most of the time with their own skills.

It’s more efficient to send players with skritts/archers in order to protect them and kill guards/players at the same time, than keeping one at treb.

well if the treb does indeed kills archers and gate keepers in one shot then it is worth using it.

show a big notice in the game to inform players that the treb kills archers and gate breakers with one shot.

i believe most of the complaints comes from players who
- do not use the treb
- do not know how to use the treb
- expect other team mates to use the treb
- does not realize the treb kills archers and gate keepers in one shot

to all of you who participated in the strong hold previously and now, tell us, did you use the treb?

do you know that the treb kills archers and gate keepers in one shot?

players needs to learn use the treb properly.
the treb one shot archers and gate breakers.

the problem is that most players do not use the treb.

Khenzy.9348:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Khenzy.9348:

Corviness.8139:

Must be… OFFHANDPISTOL! … wuum… wwwwuuuummm!!! daka daka wuuuuum!!!

Hey, hey, hear me now. What if Warriors are getting an offhand pistol but with a different take on it?
What if the new pistol offhand has an autoattack on its skill 4? Something like a chain autoattack that performs several barrage shots that generate a lot of adrenaline. With the skill 5 being something like a leap backwards, or a taunt shot of sorts, or maybe a CC like a blowout, I donno.
You could have melee pressure and ranged pressure all in a single weapon set.
Now with 3 autoattacks in total, and with the additional F2s weapon skills, it’s like if you had an additional weapon swap.

Wouldn’t that be really cool?

yeah, it would be very nice, if we have a mainhand melee auto attack plus offhand pistol auto attack on weapon skill 4.

just press 4 and watch the pistol go pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew

Right? Right?
Warrior should be the true pew pew pew class.

ya ya !!!

then when the fools gets close we can
- bleed them silly with sword
- chop them up into pieces with axe
- bash their heads in with mace

Khenzy.9348:

Corviness.8139:

Must be… OFFHANDPISTOL! … wuum… wwwwuuuummm!!! daka daka wuuuuum!!!

Hey, hey, hear me now. What if Warriors are getting an offhand pistol but with a different take on it?
What if the new pistol offhand has an autoattack on its skill 4? Something like a chain autoattack that performs several barrage shots that generate a lot of adrenaline. With the skill 5 being something like a leap backwards, or a taunt shot of sorts, or maybe a CC like a blowout, I donno.
You could have melee pressure and ranged pressure all in a single weapon set.
Now with 3 autoattacks in total, and with the additional F2s weapon skills, it’s like if you had an additional weapon swap.

Wouldn’t that be really cool?

yeah, it would be very nice, if we have a mainhand melee auto attack plus offhand pistol auto attack on weapon skill 4.

just press 4 and watch the pistol go pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew

Corviness.8139:

Must be… OFFHANDPISTOL! … wuum… wwwwuuuummm!!! daka daka wuuuuum!!!

offhand machine bolter pistol warhammer 40k style !!!!!

FOR THE EMPEROR!

i mean,
for queen jennah!
for the mother tree!
etc

Toxsa.2701:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Toxsa.2701:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

make “on my mark!” 25 seconds instead of 30 seconds.

discuss!

Make “On my Mark” not a shout, then you can make it 20 CD.

25 seconds is standard recharge time for warrior shouts.

That’s why I’m ahead of you.
Make it 20 CD and not a shout then the CD issue is compensated.
Otherwise nope.

why not?

Justine.6351:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Toxsa.2701:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

make “on my mark!” 25 seconds instead of 30 seconds.

discuss!

Make “On my Mark” not a shout, then you can make it 20 CD.

25 seconds is standard recharge time for warrior shouts.

“Fear Me!” is 60 though!

Maybe “On My Mark!” should be closer to 40 to balance it out so people don’t feel forced to choose all 3 low cd shouts?

but fear me is not a standard warrior shout.

no, on my mark is too weak to be 40 s recharge.
it is not worth 30 s as well.
25 s is just right.