It’s tedious as hell in the beginning, but dodging the attack that spawns spiders seems to be the easiest way of doing it. We’ve tried with reflection stuff but lots of attacks go through, and the Recluse enemies have melee as well. Here’s how we did it:
http://www.twitch.tv/awsmcelly/c/2687321
1: Kill incoming spiders, keep dodging
2: Keep going till there a little spiders left, start attacking the boss
3: keep going: if something spawns because of a failed dodge, kill it and attack boss again
Tedious, but it works.
O you’re the guys i tried to help in the twitch chat (roonan67 here :P), i had to go due to something coming up so I didn’t get to see if you guys finally managed to kill him or not with my suggestion. Im glad that you did, it shows its not impossible just very hard and annoying to do!
This is just an sitance for a group of party without pugs , i did it yesterday 4 Warriors ( Full zerk axe/mace and GS ), 1 guardian ( full zerk too ) . Oh … we had a pug lol Isn`t impossible but it is inconsistent that in a Arah p4 at the final boss you could go afk doing auto-hit and in TA u must work. Bah.
My most recent guild attempt didn’t have a PuG, and we completely destroyed the other paths no problem.
But our cavalier “for science” attitude lead us to rush in and try it without spending time looking it up on the wiki. We could have done it if we put up a wall, but by the time we realized, it was too late. The only solution at that point was to restart the entire instance.
We did not. For the guildies who don’t have that path done yet, they are willing to save it for last. Maybe it’ll get some sort of fix before then.
I heard of a way to recover from this situation, when he does his spider spawning animation if everyone in your party dodges twice you will get evades appear on you and no spiders will spawn. You can then keep killing the spiders left and dodging until none are left and then kill the boss. I have never done this or tried it, just read it somewhere recently
You had Wall of Reflect, no? You could have just used that when she went to spray poison. Also, achievement points and multiple legendary weapons don’t make you a skilled player.
Also, Axes on Warrior is more damage than GS.
I think just maybe this whole story isn’t actually real :o (no seriously it isnt, im like 90% he is trolling, and if your trolling by taking it seriously then i dont know what to believe )
and @OP, those people will never learn the true masterful ways of ranged combat, if ele was supposed to melee they would have a melee weapon obvs. And warrior not on GS? what a nub.
I think dungeons will reward depending on
No. of bosses
total hp of all the bosses
average damage each boss does per attack
variety of boss attacks
boss regeneration
bosses’ rate of attacking
difficulty of mobs
bosses’ area of attacks
average time taken to complete dungeon
maybe other stuff too that I missed, but I doubt it will be based on public opinion of each dungeon.
If they were using public opinion TA F/U would be a cash cow lol
Unfortunately now we are going to have organized groups with a rehearsed dungeon routine being the only ones making the best gold, leaving everyone else in the dust. Equipment requirement will be even more stringent, especially with ascended coming out, and anyone who isn’t a war with zerker ascended will get the shaft. A gold per path is too much imo.
Soo people who actually try and learn the path and spend more time on strategies/ organizing their build to work as a team will get better rewards then random PUGS who just roll in with random builds in dungeons? And this is a problem?
If the zerker warriors go from CoF p1 to other dungeons.. and actually learn how to dodge and stuff maybe the PUG community will start realizing that zerker can work in other places and PUGs will get better overall? Wishful thinking considering what PUGs are capable of (had a reddit argument about melee being more DPS then ranged, he was 100% sure ranged was better..) .. but could happen :p
They also had enough burst. They might not have the best might stacking abilities but they have enough burst for that low HP boss so they don’t need sustained damage. I mean, two timewarp, two tome of wrath for 10 more sec of quickness with the two guards.. if you can’t burst this down during the first wave of reflection you’re probably doing something terribly wrong like running gear that is not level appropriate (high lvl char suffer from downscaling, if you’re running anything but exotics your char will have much worse stats than a low lvl in green).
Or maybe they’re all using the wrong weapons. Like mace guardian, hammer warrior or something.
but but over 100% reflect uptime.. and they ran out.. i dont understand!
Just tried CoE. It was horrible. Got destroyed like 6 times, that subject alpha guy have a insane rate of spell/skill spam, everything one shot you, i can’t dodge every 3 seconds, even with specs for vigor and sigil of energy. Seriously, it was horrible.
I don’t know if was the group > 2 mesmers + 1 ranger + 1 engineer.
I won’t be able to acquire those kittening core and lodestones right?
Also, people hate newbies and LFG for this dungeon is a desert.
What path did you do? If it was 2 or 3, when you see the huge AOE circles count to 3 and THEN dodge, you should have enough endurance to dodge everytime you see the circles and you will never get it. If you dodge right when you see them you will run out and die
I also think it was because about 3-4 months ago (or a bit more?) there was this notion that 4 party members max out DPS, and one holds agro/tanks a bit. THe AH gives you personal healing to tank, and the guardian is a heavy class for more armor so it seemed to make sense. Warriors were put in the pure DPS group and stayed that way, but since the AH “tanky” guard was popularized back then, its still prevalent now since its not only easy to play, but offers good agro management. Or at least thats why i think the AH is still accepted somewhat.
I really would like to see a of video done with this using reflections on classes that aren’t guard or mes. That’s a genuine and not a sarcastic request. Or, a video that shows this supposed kiting technique – because my only experience with the boss is 3 second after the spiders spawn your pretty much dead to the poison cloud, no matter where your standing or dodge rolling. If it’s possible but just difficult, that’s actually fine. Most pug groups I run are willing to listen and try tactics. I’m just not sure that the reflect uptime with ele/thief/engi is going to be enough(without 3 warriors dpsing like crazy) and the kiting I can’t even imagine.
I think with engi/ele/theif ou should have enough uptime no?
Swirling winds
Traited magnetic Aura
Wall of relfection/smokescreen (engi)
Smokescreen
Dagger storm (if you can stack in it IDK)
Magnetic wave
Magnetic Shield (if you can stack in it)
That should be at least 70-80% uptime on reflects. Should be enough for a 1-2min fight no?
So many disillusioned people who think PUGs are capable of listening to directions or that these PUGs have alts with the optimal equipment and party makeup.
Please provide me with 1 reason why end game content should be easy for people who can’t follow directions and take bad builds, bad utilities, and bad party makeups. Then prove to me that this fight is at all hard, because it’s not.
Last time I was in that path (a few days ago), we tried the stack and melee technique without reflect (as we had no class with one). We, quite literally, died before anyone could even heal/cleanse. My health went from full to zero in seconds. I was in a PUG group who made it very easily to that point. I don’t remember what the party composition was, I know it was me (warrior), another warrior, an engie and I think a thief. Can’t remember for sure though, but the bottom line is it was impossible, for that particular party make up anyway. We wiped and it was over even though we tried many more times.
I don’t mind trying to beat this path with PUG’s over and over until I finally do it ( I am a few paths from Dungeon Master), but I can’t imagine the crazy amount of spiders spawning was ever intended.
Ummm you do realize the engi and the thief could have brought some reflect/projectile destruction? Thief can use his smoke screen. Thief uses his smoke screen (7sec) engi uses his elixir U toolbelt (wall of reflection or smoke screen) (9sec) that leaves 15sec till the theif can use his again, but im hoping the 5th party member can reflect/protect aswel.. Also not sure if you stand inside a theif dagger storm if that works aswell. But you certainly had some options.
Well, I don’t know enough about other classes to have known that. I guess I have just had bad luck with PUG groups and this path then, because I have gone through it three times now and every time the group I am in gets to the end, we spend about 20 minutes trying and end up quitting out.
I think the only classes that dont have AOE reflect/block for proectiles are warriors and necros. So if you only have 2 of those and the other 3 are either guard/theif/engi/mesmer/ranger/ele you should be fine, maybe 20% no reflect uptime if you get unlucky, but certainly not impossible.
EDIT: That actually makes me kind of mad now that you mentioned that. I specifically told the group before we went in that you need to stack and melee, use reflect/protect and I knew that because I have read 10 threads here on this forum about this path. Everyone was like “I have no reflect/protect skills”. Up until this path, I have had almost no issues with PUG groups. So sad…..
And this is why people dont like PUGS, some of them dont even know there class let alone the viable good strategies to execute! o well at least next time you see a thief or engi you can “remind” them that they can do things like this
So many disillusioned people who think PUGs are capable of listening to directions or that these PUGs have alts with the optimal equipment and party makeup.
Please provide me with 1 reason why end game content should be easy for people who can’t follow directions and take bad builds, bad utilities, and bad party makeups. Then prove to me that this fight is at all hard, because it’s not.
Last time I was in that path (a few days ago), we tried the stack and melee technique without reflect (as we had no class with one). We, quite literally, died before anyone could even heal/cleanse. My health went from full to zero in seconds. I was in a PUG group who made it very easily to that point. I don’t remember what the party composition was, I know it was me (warrior), another warrior, an engie and I think a thief. Can’t remember for sure though, but the bottom line is it was impossible, for that particular party make up anyway. We wiped and it was over even though we tried many more times.
I don’t mind trying to beat this path with PUG’s over and over until I finally do it ( I am a few paths from Dungeon Master), but I can’t imagine the crazy amount of spiders spawning was ever intended.
Ummm you do realize the engi and the thief could have brought some reflect/projectile destruction? Thief can use his smoke screen. Thief uses his smoke screen (7sec) engi uses his elixir U toolbelt (wall of reflection or smoke screen) (9sec) that leaves 15sec till the theif can use his again, but im hoping the 5th party member can reflect/protect aswel.. Also not sure if you stand inside a theif dagger storm if that works aswell. But you certainly had some options.
For the other 90% of the people who join PUG groups, it isn’t so easy to beat this particular boss because of the crazy amount of spider spawns.
Whoah, like… real content?
Please just leave this thread. You’re not helpful. You’re not constructive. You offer up no advice that is helpful.
The infinite amount of spiders that spawn are not intended. At least, anyone with a brain can discern this.
And to get it out of the way: I have 4 legendaries, 7 level 80s all decked in the best equipment, and have been playing for twice the amount of time you have. It’s easy to do this in my guild runs. It’s not even remotely feasible to do it with a bunch of PUGs.
This fight is not a L2P issue: it’s a bug. Deal with it and move on. Maybe you’ll have your first legendary by the time they patch F/U.
By the way all that you listed there means absolutely nothing in terms of player skill so its kinda irrelevant.. legendaries are just a gold sink and alts+armor sets can be kinda the same thing, just farm CoF to get them.
Anyways the only reason this boss sucks on pugs is because PUGS lack the coordination to tackle it and most pugs fear away from melee which is the “correct” way to do it (along with stacking reflects) so they try the ranged tactic, wipe and then when they attempt range/correct tactic the spiders have already spawned and it becomes a LOT harder.
And your credentials are? Nothing?
It wasn’t meant to demonstrate skill: it was meant to dispel the air of elitism that surely will present itself (as seen above) when the ‘special’ players enter the thread and state inane things such as:
“Oh, just get a guardian/mesmer”
“Oh, just melee him down (implying 3 warriors, a guardian, and a mesmer)”
“lolz all u ned 2 do iz kyte”
So many disillusioned people who think PUGs are capable of listening to directions or that these PUGs have alts with the optimal equipment and party makeup.
I like the boss’ difficulty only because it’s entertaining for me to solo it as a mesmer or engineer. That takes around 20 minutes. Surely not fun for the rest of my party who are sitting there dead watching me whittle away at the tree’s HP.
Does that mean I think it’s not bugged just because I can kill it? Not at all. Like I said: anyone with a brain can compare the situation before the change and the situation after the change to see that they went overboard, causing a buggy encounter.
For instance, I was in a group with a guardian, mesmer (me), warrior, necro, and thief. We tried just about every tactic. Kite them CW…CCW…stack and melee while reflecting projectiles. Killing spiders. Having two kite/kill spiders while the melee people whack at the tree.
Only thing that worked was me kiting indefinitely while they all remained dead. This is completely different compared to how they’ve designed other bosses, indicative of a bug.
“And your credentials are? Nothing?” Im sorry but i dont consider legendaries and alts as credentials… and why would i need any to talk about a boss which has very easy to counter mechanics? Just stack melee and reflects, its obviously not aimed at pugs so thats a none issue. The fact that you think the amount of spiders is a bug could be true, but wont be confirmed till anet says so. So until then just reflect and melee, and try and convince pugs to do so in hope that they will listen and make there lives 100x easier.
“Oh, just melee him down (implying 3 warriors, a guardian, and a mesmer)” Sure guardians and mesmers help for the high reflect uptime, but either in this thread or the other thread (way to many on this boss) a group did it with 3 war 2 necro. Which have 0 AOE reflects.. they just stacked melee and out healed/condition cleansed the damage. They used there classes abilities to win.. which means they were smart about it which is nice.
If Rangers have better DPS than warriors than a full ranger group will be faster than a full warrior group. This is demonstrably not the case.
@Winston My claim isn’t that “Brasil has proved that Rangers > Warriors”. My claim is that he(they) proved that Ranger’s aren’t as trash tier as was once believed.
O ya i understand that, just trying to understand the ranger dps discussion going on since i missed a couple pages and was to lazy to read, was just making sure that i didnt miss any new data showing rangers>warriors. But ya rangers are not as bad as everyone has thought it seems, not beast god mode next level killing machine. But not trash. :p
I have not completely read the thread yet, but did he prove rangers do more then warriors? since in the videos i have seen the ranger still does a bit less, unless im missing something. Genuinely curious.
No, he hasn’t personally proven anything. Brasil and DnT have been the ones providing evidence of a Ranger in practice, and from my understanding they think it’s on-par with a Warrior’s DPS at the least. Whether further testing will show improvements or w/e, who knows. I’m more so pointing out that even after there being proof of Rangers being (arguably) pretty good, people continue to act like Guang didn’t have any valid points and that Rangers are still as trash as people thought they were.
Alright, i looked at brazils vet giant kills on his ranger and from my really rough counts (youtube player estimates lol) it looked like 18sec kills, my axe warrior is around 18 aswell, but i need to dodge the KD. So warr is still a BIT higher from these very rough observations that should nto be taken as fact >_>.
EDIT: this is personal DPS, didnt take into account the frost spirit it can provide and spotter to add to team DPS
In the meantime, since 99% of rangers are absolute trash I’m not going to waste my time taking them on dungeon runs.
Would it really hurt you that much to accept he was right?
His claim wasn’t “rangers do comparable DPS to warriors when played near perfectly and they bring 2 unique party-wide buffs so you should consider replacing one and only one warrior with a ranger in your speed clear runs”.
It was “rangers [and engineers, don’t forget that one] do more DPS than warriors”.
Status: Bullkitten.
His claim was that a Ranger does more DPS than a Warrior. His team build had one Ranger in it. You’re exaggerating his claim(s) to make them look foolish because you (and others) can’t accept that he had valid points after trolling him.
Brasil and DnT have presented what a Ranger can do, yet you and others continue to ignore it and act like they’re trash with arguments like “oh.. but… PUG rangers aren’t good!”. Look at what’s been presented, stop being blinded by hatred for the class.
I have not completely read the thread yet, but did he prove rangers do more then warriors? since in the videos i have seen the ranger still does a bit less, unless im missing something. Genuinely curious.
For the other 90% of the people who join PUG groups, it isn’t so easy to beat this particular boss because of the crazy amount of spider spawns.
Whoah, like… real content?
Please just leave this thread. You’re not helpful. You’re not constructive. You offer up no advice that is helpful.
The infinite amount of spiders that spawn are not intended. At least, anyone with a brain can discern this.
And to get it out of the way: I have 4 legendaries, 7 level 80s all decked in the best equipment, and have been playing for twice the amount of time you have. It’s easy to do this in my guild runs. It’s not even remotely feasible to do it with a bunch of PUGs.
This fight is not a L2P issue: it’s a bug. Deal with it and move on. Maybe you’ll have your first legendary by the time they patch F/U.
By the way all that you listed there means absolutely nothing in terms of player skill so its kinda irrelevant.. legendaries are just a gold sink and alts+armor sets can be kinda the same thing, just farm CoF to get them.
Anyways the only reason this boss sucks on pugs is because PUGS lack the coordination to tackle it and most pugs fear away from melee which is the “correct” way to do it (along with stacking reflects) so they try the ranged tactic, wipe and then when they attempt range/correct tactic the spiders have already spawned and it becomes a LOT harder.
I’ll quote Hrouda as many times as you want since you seem to suffer from heavily impaired reading comprehension.
Of course when they stepped into explorable that was a different experience, since we built our explorable dungeons to directly challenge a coordinated 5 man group.
This is an explorable. It doesn’t need a billboard stating that this path is not for beginners. Story mode were intended for beginners.
You again miss the point. Your question is irrelevant (can pug do this path) because whether a random pug kitten group can complete something is not within the requirements for an explorable path. It is for story modes.
I think you’re a little too full of yourself to actually read the opinions of others…
Sigh, why do I bother?
TA is a fifty five level dungeon: this, I believe, is commmon knowledge.
What I’m asking is: is really TA forward/ up a level 55 exploring dungeon? Or is it a little more (or a lot more) challenging than this?
Not that this is bad: I would just like to know why, and share my experiences with this particular path. Why labels forward/up as a level 55 dungeon, when we know as a fact, that we need a fully level 80 team with level 80 gears, with tested teamwork, just to hope to complete it?
And why this abysmal difference with the other two paths? Why is it needed?
And your rudeness don’t promote your arguments more than exploiting Hrouda quotes: I refuse to believe you don’t know the difference between the coordination required to do the 3 different paths of TA, paths that are supposed to be doable in the same range of team, skills and level.
In a coordinated group you dont need to be all level 80’s and full exotic to complete the path, (as seen in the no armor boss kill video) so I think it can be done with 55’s. That means all the path requires is a coordinated group which is competent with there professions.. although some classes help more then others (guards mostly)
I legitimately have not seem a shout heal warrior in over a year, maybe I’m just lucky. However the pure ranged Guards, Thieves and Rangers are at least one in each PuG. Alternately I have a soft spot for staff Ele’s
Head on over to reddit or low level fractals, shout heal warriors at every turn. :p
Only problem I have with this.. is this. This is the destroyer. He’s rubbish easy. You can stand there without issue and whale on him while a guardian blocks his dragon’s tooth every so often. I find that melee’ing on ranger with the sword 1 chain to be alot more difficult in other situations, especially as glass cannon which leaves you like paper. 2 issues are this- 1 is that the auto chain can lock you in place, 2 is the pet which is gonna get destroyed in most fights so you can forget about that dps ( I’m looking @ u alpha).
The real problem I have with ranger is that it can be good dps, in select situations like the destroyer.. But these situations are few and far between. I’d like to be able to run ranger for every speedclear, and have it be viable for every part of a speedclear, not just the parts where it doesn’t matter what class you brought as long as it was glass. Also I’m interested to know where you’re placing frost spirit on Alpha, I always fantasized about having that extra 10% dmg buff.
I’m guessing a way around the crappy ( but high damage, yes) sword auto attack lock could be to pick up an ele weapon. He only really needs one hammer per alpha encounter anyways if you kill him fast enough.
My only problem with you saying that destroyer is rubbish easy is that through all of my coe runs with LOD never once did they clear it in 1 try without timewarp. So the ability for your members to predict the ease of encounters or the possible usefulness of some classes is rather funny to me.
What run have you been on? Ive always cleared it at least in a timewarp, even when the guard kittened up an aegis and we all got kd and ele died we still killed it in one go… you must have had some real kitten runs or something ._.
its hard to find a normal funn party.. the gold rushers, 4wars 1 mesmer runs are just messing it up for the regular player the ones whe onley there profi (non war or mesmer) those are just left behind. i do lfg, then ow no a thief kick from party only need warriors…kitteni hate warrior classe and mesmer so never gone make one, i just love my thief and my ele.
Just find a all class group or make your own group.. its takes literally less then 30sec to fill a “all classes welcome” group, stop complaining about an issue which doesn’t even exist….
doesnt exist? got kicked 10times in a row… people who ask for LF2M cof p1. “oh no not a warrior” BAM, kick. when i make an lfg no one is comming i’m still waiting on a party :o
its hard to find a normal funn party.. the gold rushers, 4wars 1 mesmer runs are just messing it up for the regular player the ones whe onley there profi (non war or mesmer) those are just left behind. i do lfg, then ow no a thief kick from party only need warriors…kitteni hate warrior classe and mesmer so never gone make one, i just love my thief and my ele.
Just find a all class group or make your own group.. its takes literally less then 30sec to fill a “all classes welcome” group, stop complaining about an issue which doesn’t even exist….
they should buff hard dungeon rewards, they should make lupi always give a rare, I mean, he’s harder than all of cof p1, not saying he’s hard, just saying that a good pug group with decent dps can take him down in 6-8 minutes, a good pug group can finish cof p1 in 6-8 minutes
Well.. The record is now on like 24 seconds or something. Lupi is a bit of a joke as well if you go full berserker group like.
Then again CoF is a joke if you go berserker as well. You spend more time walking/waiting then actually fighting lol.
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And this discrimination is easily remedied if you just roll a warrior or mesmer.
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Totally putting this in my signature, and quoting you.
Unless you are serious? Wait… this is a troll, right?
If you want to play basketball at the gym and it says “ATHLETIC SHOES REQUIRED” then you put on the your kittening sneakers and go play, you don’t post a million posts in the forums whining about how they won’t let you on the court in sandals
So if you’re designing a recreational facility for your clients and 75% of them only wear sandals, you create a gym that requires sneakers? Or wait, did I miss something and it says at character creation for any non-warrior, non-mesmer class: “NOT ALLOWED IN DUNGEONS”.
Mesmer is not that good outside of CoF. Id rather bring a dps guard…
Also you need to learn how to exploit the fights in the dungeons. The spider for example you can stack near the stairs, that trick makes the fight waay easier, even if your group die on the spider queen at least you will be able to kill all the mini spiders, making the fight with the boss easier (don’t forget to destroy those turrets first too).
That boss with oozes and traps is one of the most boring in this game, so that path is the least played from that dungeon, path 3 is easier, path 1 is the easiest if you group know how to deal with the burrow’s room where you need to defend Hodgins.
You don’t really need to stack on the stairs for the spider queen. The poison spray has a minimum distance so it should hit anyone in melee range. She raises her front legs before doing the web spitting attack so just don’t stand in front of her when she does that. That way should take almost no damage in the fight. The babies can be painful but a bit of LoSing can easily deal with them even without reflects.
Pretty sure stacking just makes it easier and things like WW and FGS (#4 and #3) become more effective for better kill times. Unless i dont actually know why we stack lol.
I think most people have a problem with CoF since it is not only the easiest path in the game but also the most rewarding. So the people that do a 40min arah p4 run feel cheated out of their money since they worked alot harder and longer then someone in CoF but achieved the saem amount of reward they did in 5min.
And it does affect everyone else due to inflation. If CoF was cut out of the game right now the gold income would fall quite a bit making gold more valuable and therefore the 40min arah p4 path would also be more rewarding since gold is worth more. CoF is just kittening everyone who doesnt run it due to inflation.
It is not going to kill someone to pay six silver. Smothering + accuracy is fine if you don’t want to pay for a night sigil, but smothering is the least I expect from a COF farmer, not freaking sigils of rage, sigils of battle or sigils of nullification.
Having night + smothering up is a whole 20%+ damage so that’s why I make a big deal about it.
“So that’s why I make a big deal about it.”
In other words, I’m guessing you’re one of those people who post those absurd requests which go something like “MUST HAVE SIGILS OR KICK” and “MUST HAVE CORRECT GEAR OR KICK”.
In my personal opinion, asking for all these are a bit overkill, and for what? Just to shave off a couple of minutes? I understand farming is farming, but requirements that strict make people unhappy
Correct me if I am wrong.
People do it since shaving off even 1 minute in a 1-2 hour session is effectively 1-2 more runs.. so about 1+ gold more! Its why people are so specific about class/build/sigil/whatever else farmers want.
I see your point. But it seems unfair that people who don’t have them aren’t even given a chance.
Normaly those groups say exactly what they want in the LFG description.. so dont join a group like that or form your own. it takes 30sec tops to form a “all classes welcome group”
It is not going to kill someone to pay six silver. Smothering + accuracy is fine if you don’t want to pay for a night sigil, but smothering is the least I expect from a COF farmer, not freaking sigils of rage, sigils of battle or sigils of nullification.
Having night + smothering up is a whole 20%+ damage so that’s why I make a big deal about it.
“So that’s why I make a big deal about it.”
In other words, I’m guessing you’re one of those people who post those absurd requests which go something like “MUST HAVE SIGILS OR KICK” and “MUST HAVE CORRECT GEAR OR KICK”.
In my personal opinion, asking for all these are a bit overkill, and for what? Just to shave off a couple of minutes? I understand farming is farming, but requirements that strict make people unhappy
Correct me if I am wrong.
People do it since shaving off even 1 minute in a 1-2 hour session is effectively 1-2 more runs.. so about 1+ gold more! Its why people are so specific about class/build/sigil/whatever else farmers want.
Six silver and a weapon that is now useless outside of CoF. So really, it’s the price of a whole new weapon, which is kind of counter productive if you’re not an ‘8 hour a day kitten $$$ farmer’.
Is it weird that i have multiple weapons with different slaying sigils on them just to be 10% better in dungeons? They dont really cost much if you run CoF/CoE alot.. so i find them worth it
But would you really want a greatsword with each of those or just 1 greatsword with night?
My main GS has night, but i have another with force and then another with bandit/undead slaying. Just so im ready for most situations… although i rarely use GS.. so doesn’t really matter to me.
Just saying colesy’s 2x smothering 1x night isn’t exactly a good suggestion for 3 sigils between a 2hander and 2 1handers.
Depends how much you care about min/max. Although i do think 2xnight 1xsmothering is better since.. night more flexible. So you are correct there.
Six silver and a weapon that is now useless outside of CoF. So really, it’s the price of a whole new weapon, which is kind of counter productive if you’re not an ‘8 hour a day kitten $$$ farmer’.
Is it weird that i have multiple weapons with different slaying sigils on them just to be 10% better in dungeons? They dont really cost much if you run CoF/CoE alot.. so i find them worth it
But would you really want a greatsword with each of those or just 1 greatsword with night?
My main GS has night, but i have another with force and then another with bandit/undead slaying. Just so im ready for most situations… although i rarely use GS.. so doesn’t really matter to me.
Six silver and a weapon that is now useless outside of CoF. So really, it’s the price of a whole new weapon, which is kind of counter productive if you’re not an ‘8 hour a day kitten $$$ farmer’.
Is it weird that i have multiple weapons with different slaying sigils on them just to be 10% better in dungeons? They dont really cost much if you run CoF/CoE alot.. so i find them worth it
I am using all my burst I can? Using Dolyak Signet, cheap food and not even using final thrust. I only used skills that do condition damage. But nice try, maybe next time.
Sure berserker build is obviously better at doing burst damage there is no doubting that, but these kinds of builds also do very well, also note my high HP which let me live longer
I might post a dungeon boss fight when I get the time, I’m mostly a WvW player that farms CS occasionally.
The gear I use is PVCd with 2x afflicted, 2x centaur, 2x krait runes. Corruption sigil for stacks with 5% rate on shield, bow has smoldering sigil. Back and amulet are PTV, rest is PVCd.
Traits are 10/30/0/30/0
In PvE high HP isnt all that important.. you should be dodging most attacks and therefore health is pretty irrelevant. And since most PvE content relies on heavy burst… front loded damage is much better then condi.
lol, thats a lot quicker then it takes for me to find zerker groups :p (might be my timezone though >>) Thanks for making this video… will prove useful for later threads I bet lol.
How long does it normally take you? Last time I bothered to grab pugs for cof p1 I had 5 join requests b4 I tabbed back…
Normally takes me 2-3min. No joke…im not sure if its my timezone or i always get unlucky :/
Well if you really want to keep doing CoF P1 I would suggest making a list of guildies/friends and running with them. Setup a voice chat, muscle memory the run and try to keep yourselves entertained.
Did the friends list thing for 4 months, got my 2 legendaries so no need now. I do a p1 run maybe once a week. So not needed anymore :P
