Guild Wars 2

The only way condis are “bursting people” is because of bleed and burning. Nerf burnings overall damage and how condi power effects it. Nerf bleeding’s overall damage, how condi power effects it and nerf how it stacks in intensity. 6 stacks of bleeding on a target shouldnt be doing the insane amount of damage it is doing now. These 2 condis are the reason condi classes are destroying. Nerf them and balanced game.

Atherakhia.4086:

I’d much rather see them change stomp to a ranged stomp/leap type move to resolve the mobility issues and such as right now the main thing I miss about greatsword is the mobility.

As for greatsword in particular, there’s nothing wrong with anything but the burst skill. Make it a parry like the Ranger’s move. Give it a 1/3/5 second duration and if you parry a melee attack you do moderate damage and knock players back in a frontal arc that knocks back 200/400/600 yards.

Great idea actually. This would be very nice.

Zoid.2568:

No one really use the current GS burst skill. Need to be changed, so i agree, make 100b a burst skill and beef it up.

Turn the second skill into a teleport that will teleport you behind the target.

Saying things like that make me believe you don’t play a warrior

Red Raven.7824:

Here’s something useful.

Greatsword.

Because it’s fine the way it is.

^

Yah no. That would kitten up this game even more. The majority of people in this game have no sense about balance. Even in this thread we have someone calling warriors OP and almost unbeatable in 1v1s. While in the real world no team would ever dare run with a warrior. A public test server is a great idea that is why every other mmo out currently has one.

Hopefully that means they will actually make pvp in this game good!!!

I still believe spirit rangers come out on top of warriors or i have had just some horrible body blocking luck. Seriously the spirits slow motion jump infront of my attacks.
Jon hammer is good but it is extremely easy to dodge even more so then mace shield.

I wish i had those sunglasses in game kittening blinds man.

Nuka Cola.8520:

Okay okay i guess i’ll have to tell you why i think this build sucks… 1) you have Sword MH on both sets. 2) Since phantasm HP increase and sig of illusion significant HP decrease its not worth running EVEN in a pure phantasm build, take Veil for more stealth cheesing, Phatasmal Defender, Mantra of Resolve or even dat sig of domination for the 3sec stun so iDuelists can land all their bleeds/damage. It always depends against who you’re playing against so if its a condi engi/necro mantra of resolve is more useful, if its another mesmer i’d go with Veil and so on.

You have 15 points in Domination~ Dazzling has no use for a phantasm build (especially yours), 10 points is enough. Dueling~ Don’t have Phanta Fury in a build fully focused on phantasms and i also prefer having DE even in a phantasm build so ‘if’ my phantasms are dead from aoe (engi nades for example), i can always hide behind them as a shield for ranged/none piercing attacks, but this is just a preference, you do what you want. I always ran 25 in inspiration like a nab for dat 15% additional phantasm damage when running a phant build (before IC nerf) but its NOT worth it at all anymore. There’s also no point whatsoever to even invest points in Illusions because Illusionary Distribution is useless for what you try to achieve and Compounding Power is mainly for shatter builds.

Cool Have you tried the build? No? Well then. Guess who has been playing this build since launch and who has had amazing success 1v1 with it. Also i see you completed failed to read anything that i have posted. But its fine i will play my build and own and you can do wahtever you want.

Wombat.3510:

A spirit ranger with dead spirits is by far the weakest class in the game. Any other class with equal skill level can steamroll over them. Anyone who is above their skill level can destroy them in a matter of seconds. Their only chance for survival is hoping they can absorb enough damage to stay alive and not get interrupted during the 4.5 second recast time. If they are lucky enough to recast their spirits, they have to pray that they don’t die immediately, because then they have to find some way to stay alive for 60 seconds with little defense and no offense.

To me, the solution seems simple – spend a few seconds killing the 2 main spirits.

If it was that easy to kill them they wouldn’t be a must for tpvp teams.

I love when i break down a strat and assign people position and tell them the rotations then i realize that i am the only one typing in chat. Then the match starts and 4 people go home point and the other guy goes mid and instantly dies.

Wait theirs a team for class balance? /sarcasm

Sol.4310:

QQ some more about Spirit Ranger’s. If there so strong go roll one make video and show Anet how there so easy to play.

Please QQ more, this will be like POST 10000 about people who don’t play spirit ranger or ranger come to forums and QQ. QQQQQQQQQQQQ

Really? If i had a way to record i would. They are a very easy class to play and i do play one. It isn’t your mad skilllzzz that is making you win.

Nah they will just add a giant beetle that roams around doing 10k unblockable and undodgable damage and knocking you down. Then after words the beetle will say l2p nubzzz positioning? baddie.

Don’t argue with idiots because they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. —Greg King
Well i learned a a lesson today.

swiftpaw.6397:

Me- Why does my spirit ranger beat every other spirit ranger? If there’s no skill involved, shouldn’t they be able to beat me at least some of the time?

You- Because you are better at the game then they are or they are relatively new to the game.

You basically agreed to me right there. Let me rephrase it then I suppose. If it’s so easy to play, then how come people don’t wisen up after a few matches and beat me?

Are you trolling me?
Your not? Well then because the spec is overpowered..

swiftpaw.6397:

kitten s.7421:

swiftpaw.6397:

kitten s.7421:

swiftpaw.6397:

kitten s.7421:

swiftpaw.6397:

kitten s.7421:

swiftpaw.6397:

kitten s.7421:

The spec is extremely easy to play get over it. You can make a ranger and do 3 matches as a spirit ranger and be good at the spec.

Why does my spirit ranger beat every other spirit ranger? If there’s no skill involved, shouldn’t they be able to beat me at least some of the time?

Because you are better at the game then they are or they are relatively new to the game. The only skill that class involves is learning how to body block and learning how to time your evades thats about it. The rest is just easy condi spam with passive burning. I guess the self rez takes a little skill…

I think I would beat you too. >_>

Yes because the class is overpowered.

You are welcome to play spirit ranger in the way you just described. I’d beat you on it still.

I do a play ranger…… the spec is easy its not your mad skilllzzzzzz that are beating people. Its the fact that the spec isn’t balanced.

But if that’s the case, how come someone who runs the same spec as me loses? Ah kitten it we go around in circles now don’t we.

Are you mentally handicapped? Why are you automatically assuming that everyone who plays spirit ranger is on the same skill level? It is a easy spec with a low skill level. Players can still suck and be better then other players playing the same spec. Or they could just be better at the game? Better rotations quicker reactions better movement. I am sorry I am the one who had to tell this to you.

Well that was incredibly rude, but I suppose I’ll answer you anyway. I know alot of younger people play, (hopefully with parental guidance.) I’m not automatically assuming that everyone is on the same skill level. That is exactly my point. You said there is no skill required to play spirit ranger. There clearly is if one spirit ranger consistently beats another spirit ranger with the exact same spec.

Go back and point out where i said this class requires no skill.

kitten give me temple you can have my 6 skyhammer queues in a row.

The Boz.2038:

Fenrir.5493:

Defektive.7283:

Fenrir.5493:

Daecollo.9578:

Classes should not rely on CC to hit things, that is just bad design.

They designed the warrior that way, and i dont see that they are going to redisign it, so if they listen to all the patethic cryes of people that can no use a single stun break then the warrior will stay useless forever because they like i said not going to rework the class.

About the sigil of paralysation:

If you use 2 sigils of paralysation that is 3.90 seconds… where is the problem again?

It doesnt stack.

It stacks actually is like every other permanet sigil like 5% more damage and crit chance.

Those two don’t stack.

They only effect the weapon they are on. With the exception of the 5% crt sigil i’m pretty sure it effects only the weapon set.

swiftpaw.6397:

kitten s.7421:

swiftpaw.6397:

kitten s.7421:

swiftpaw.6397:

kitten s.7421:

The spec is extremely easy to play get over it. You can make a ranger and do 3 matches as a spirit ranger and be good at the spec.

Why does my spirit ranger beat every other spirit ranger? If there’s no skill involved, shouldn’t they be able to beat me at least some of the time?

Because you are better at the game then they are or they are relatively new to the game. The only skill that class involves is learning how to body block and learning how to time your evades thats about it. The rest is just easy condi spam with passive burning. I guess the self rez takes a little skill…

I think I would beat you too. >_>

Yes because the class is overpowered.

You are welcome to play spirit ranger in the way you just described. I’d beat you on it still.

I do a play ranger…… the spec is easy its not your mad skilllzzzzzz that are beating people. Its the fact that the spec isn’t balanced.

swiftpaw.6397:

kitten s.7421:

swiftpaw.6397:

kitten s.7421:

The spec is extremely easy to play get over it. You can make a ranger and do 3 matches as a spirit ranger and be good at the spec.

Why does my spirit ranger beat every other spirit ranger? If there’s no skill involved, shouldn’t they be able to beat me at least some of the time?

Because you are better at the game then they are or they are relatively new to the game. The only skill that class involves is learning how to body block and learning how to time your evades thats about it. The rest is just easy condi spam with passive burning. I guess the self rez takes a little skill…

I think I would beat you too. >_>

Yes because the spec is overpowered.

The sigil rounds up the warrior stun. I makes it i think i saw 3.74 then it just rounds it up to 4. I am pretty sure i saw this somewhere i could be completely wrong though.

swiftpaw.6397:

kitten s.7421:

The spec is extremely easy to play get over it. You can make a ranger and do 3 matches as a spirit ranger and be good at the spec.

Why does my spirit ranger beat every other spirit ranger? If there’s no skill involved, shouldn’t they be able to beat me at least some of the time?

Because you are better at the game then they are or they are relatively new to the game. The only skill that class involves is learning how to body block and learning how to time your evades thats about it. The rest is just easy condi spam with passive burning. I guess the self rez takes a little skill…

When you here the would balance and you feel a bit worried for your class that generally means you need a nerf.

Nuka Cola.8520:

looks like crap, phantasm 10/20/30/10/0 build would be much better for one v ones

Lol looks like crap? And its not i hit harder then that phantasm build. But whatever everyone has their own opinion. Been playing the same exact build since launch and have had amazing success with it. If you don’t like it don’t play it.

Aquilus.9423:

I’m curious as to why you’ve chosen Sword-Mainhand in both weapon sets. How do you deal with the shared CDs, and what do you do if you’re ever forced out of melee range? Also, with Sharper Images, wouldn’t iZerker do more dmg than iSwordsman simply due to bleed? Why the Dazzling minor in Dom? Is the vuln really good enough to justify not putting those 5 into Inspiration which gives a lot more utility?

1.The swords cd are low enough and it works actually completely fine.
2. No iSwordsman actually hits harder and crts harder
3. With this build you actually stack vul very fast plus the off hand sword daze and their really isn’t a better 5 point investment nothing else in inspiration is really good for phant builds.
4. Eh its personal preference

The spec is extremely easy to play get over it. You can make a ranger and do 3 matches as a spirit ranger and be good at the spec.

Red.3572:

How sad do you have to be to continually insult another person for not being amazing at a second language? At what point do you become utterly despicable trash? Discuss!

Edit, on topic:

The funniest thing is, Anet is only letting these builds persist because of a desire to retain consistency throughout a tournament. To feed some desire to be an e-sport.

Thing is, any potential new ‘competitive’ player (attracted by the tournament spectacle) that sees the game in it’s current kitten -poor rng, AOE Spam, AI dominated state, won’t even think about touching it in the first place. Irony much?

I wasn’t being serious lol. Don’t get your e panties in a bunch i was kidding and i thought he knew that.

The dead horse is now just a pile of glue.

feliscatus.1430:

kitten s.7421:

feliscatus.1430:

kitten s.7421:

Or it could be the person playing the mesmer who is at fault….
Check the mesmer forums i recently posted my build that i use in 1v1s and that i have been using since the first week of this game.

Okay Professor Literal Von Pedantic.
I still win almost all my 1v1’s. But I mark that up more to my thousands of games on the profession. In an actual team fight, as a back bunker, or a roamer, or any other role I might want to play, I’d rather take my warrior right now.

The ONLY exception to this right now for me is Skyhammer. And then all I really need is decoy and a focus for the hammer room.

Your build is fine, but it’s just zerker phantasm… I’m sure I could farm mad points in hotjoin with it, but it doesn’t address any of the issues with mesmer viability overall.

Take deeep breaths everything will be okay iiiiinnnnn and oooouuuuuttttt.
I was simply replying to the person who was complaining about mesmers losing 1v1s all the time. Also if you would rather take your warrior to tpvp over your mesmer i’d suggest actually playing a warrior. Also it’s Dr. Professor Literal Von Pedantic to you.

Well, the topic of the thread is mesmer viability. I’d rather take my mesmer to tpvp, but unfortunately that gimps my team. You’re basically saying it’s a L2P issue. It is not.

In a 1v1 scenario it is. Yes you are right this thread is about Mesmer viability and i was responding to how they are still fine in 1v1s. Mesmers still have some of the best utility the only reason they are not being used much now is because they have always been weak against condis. Lower the gun and calm down. You obviously do not play a warrior. If you played a warrior you would actually know what it feels like to kitten your team. You are forgetting their are still more mesmers in tpvp teams then warriors. Now relax.

feliscatus.1430:

kitten s.7421:

Or it could be the person playing the mesmer who is at fault….
Check the mesmer forums i recently posted my build that i use in 1v1s and that i have been using since the first week of this game.

Okay Professor Literal Von Pedantic.
I still win almost all my 1v1’s. But I mark that up more to my thousands of games on the profession. In an actual team fight, as a back bunker, or a roamer, or any other role I might want to play, I’d rather take my warrior right now.

The ONLY exception to this right now for me is Skyhammer. And then all I really need is decoy and a focus for the hammer room.

Your build is fine, but it’s just zerker phantasm… I’m sure I could farm mad points in hotjoin with it, but it doesn’t address any of the issues with mesmer viability overall.

Take deeep breaths everything will be okay iiiiinnnnn and oooouuuuuttttt.
I was simply replying to the person who was complaining about mesmers losing 1v1s all the time. Also if you would rather take your warrior to tpvp over your mesmer i’d suggest actually playing a warrior. Also it’s Dr. Professor Literal Von Pedantic to you.

jportell.2197:

Jasher.6580:

Mammoth.1975:

It strikes me that the phantasm build could almost be viable in the low organisation environment of solo queue. Out of curiousity, what does it lose to 1v1?

Necromancer, Spirit Ranger, Shout Ranger, Stun Lock Warrior, Zerker Longbow Warrior, Engineer, Burst Elementalist, SD Thief, DP Thief and Symbol Guardian.

And the random kitchen sink thrown in there for good measure.

Or it could be the person playing the mesmer who is at fault….
Check the mesmer forums i recently posted my build that i use in 1v1s and that i have been using since the first week of this game.

Well sometimes it gives me brain aneurysms. Wait no that’s just the players

Arganthium.5638:

Macro it to say “EAT MOAR CHIKEN”

You think this is some kind of joke?!
http://youtu.be/_iZDah_n2zY

This is a easy fix. Jsut remove downed stat from pvp…please!!!

TGSlasher.1458:

Raif.9507:

Yes the title and accompanying Jew comments were truly necessary to get youre quite excellent points across.

Don’t worry, I was thinking it too.

I hope no one reads my diary.

Rerroll.9083:

Tyler Chapman.1832:

This is unfortunately a bug right now but what I can say is that we have a fix we will get in as soon as we are able. For the time being you will have to have everyone exit your server so it can reset if your server gets stuck. Try to avoid using /gameend but you can still use /setscore

below your name it says “PvP Quality Assurance Embed”

You don’t work in the class balance, do you?

Apply cold water to the burn area!!!

I have been seeing a lot of mesmers lately complaining about losing 1v1 fights and being all emo and sad. So I have decided to share my build. I have been running this exactly set up since the launch of this game. It’s really funny actually through all the nerfs and the qq this build has always been strong and worked extremely well for me. Even i am quite surprised nothing has been changed with this build.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQRAsa8MlwzaoHTzomk4MDoHdUFwO5DqukCenbA-TgAg0CnI4SxljLDXSuscB
Their you go. Not the hardest build to play. You can swap the utilities for whatever you want. I constantly find myself switching them.
Its not the best in tpvp but when i occasionaly play this spec in tpvp i like to roam with it. Its really nice for blowing up bunkers. But other mesmer specs are a lot better for tpvp.
But this build really stands out 1v1 against well any class.
The only real advise i can give is time your Phantasm attacks with your blurred frenzy. It may be hard at first but you can pick up the timing and rhythm really fast. Enjoy
-Pres Mitt Romneny.

If you have the 50% crt on stun and frenzy and you too the 2 axe traits. The axe auto attack chain does way more damage. I posted the spec i use with it and it does WAY more damage then the mace shield gs. Let me find it and i will edit it in.

Edit

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQRApe3ZjcO1wxQqQMRCAkivyyoYogOFUSpAP3A-TwAg0CnIqRVjrGTNyas1MQYZxmgZIA
This is what i have been running and having great success with. You can swap the traits and talents around a bit for aginst condi classes.
1.Mace stun
2.Frenzy+weapon swap
3.Axe auto attack until stun wears off
4.Mace 5
5.auto attack more
6. Then if they still are alive stack vul and axe fi
I call it the Axe murderer build idk if someone already made it but its insane damage does way more then gs does. Give it a try <3

Arganthium.5638:

A serious post on the meta by Lordrosicky

HAHAHA OMFG THAT WAS KITTEN HILARIOUS, I loved that. Got any more jokes up your sleeve?

Do you like fish sticks?

Well they increase is awesomeness every 10 ranks and the sharks was already pretty sweet so dragon has to be insane.

pvp is 10% knowing your class and 90% knowing everyone else’s class.

Lopez.7369:

Asura have an unfair advantage, but you should probably get your eyes checked if you can’t tell what weapon an Asura is using.

One handed weapons are tough to see. Certain maces are extremely small same with swords and axes and off hand weapons.

Daecollo.9578:

Who.4651:

So, when are Asuras getting a 50% height/size increase in PVP ?

And an animation change in pvp.

If they do that, that means we will no longer have the fun and exciting game know as guess what weapon the asura is wielding now.

Or its the fact that you can instantly kill someone with a single push of a button or the fact their is a undodgeable massive aoe nuke that is also a knock down covers the entire point and hits between 5k and 8k damage.WOW what a neat and fun mechanic. But what is the most frustrating part is that some people in this games community actually think this map takes skill and is all about XxLEETxX positioning and mad skillzzzzz. When i fact i can get on my engi run over a panel use tool magnet pull and instantly kill them. Look at all that skill involved.

Zenith.7301:

D/D has much better sustained damage than S/D if the opponent mitigates the S/D burst. An air rotation alone won’t outdo the pressure of a d/d ele.

Your only semi decent form of sustained damage on scepter is air auto.

DD also took the aoe burst and sustained prize, but that was overshadowed by the superior cleave damage of warrior and engineer/necro.

Additionally, s/d is prominent because so many of the dominant specs at the moment completely bypas the ele’s main defenses (boons), so scepter allows the ele better lasting power by allowing him to dish out his pressure from a better position where he can’t be shut down.

The DD ele gets fully stripped by the s/d thief, condis ignore protection and both the engineer and necro can cover well enough to have high condi uptime on a 15k hp pool that gets easily pressured into the defensive.

DD ele is still strong against anything else that isn’t a condi engineer/necro+s/d thief. Warrior is probably a hard counter as well since nobody can toe to toe a warrior. Warrior demolishes even bunkers with their extremely high base damage, so ele doesn’t really stand a chance and he doesn’t have the range flexibility to wear down the warrior from range before going for the spike.

I am starting to think you are one of those “zomfg wqrriqr with mace shield is totes op narf plzzzzzz.”

Burr i would like to duel you. I will get on my ranger and duel you i really want to see this. Add me in game Dame Jill the Xlll or Xll i dont remember (those are “L”)

BurrTheKing.8571:

kitten s.7421:

Manijin.3428:

I would take Troll Unguent over Healing Signet any day of the freakin’ week. Heck, I’d take Healing Spring, too, with all the blast finishers warriors get. Don’t complain to me about healing. When warriors can bunker like a ranger, then you have my permission to QQ.

This gives DPS warriors a small amount of sustain in small fights, and a trivial amount of healing under concentrated burst in team fights. Tougher warriors finally have a heal that provides valuable heal-over-time when stacked with other warrior healing abilities. This is a good thing.

Listen to tellah. The build he just said heals way more then rangers. Also use banner of tatics with it you can get up to around 1,588 healing power. Also you get 3 passive heals adrenal healing the signet and regen. You are healing insanely with it

Banner regen builds mean not only is your DPS beyond laughable but you’re also nowhere near as good a bunker as a Guardian or Engi. Any amount of strong condition damage would destroy this, in fact a bit of poison wrecks it completely.

I know lol i was just pointing out. IF you take cleasning of ire zerkers stance and shake it off its a bit better. But still condi wrecks it. Was simply pointing out that it heals for then rangers.

I have several people arguing with me saying that in a 1v1 of equal skill a warrior will beat a spirit ranger? Is this true because personally i think this is bullkitten. Though i would love to be proven wrong. Because if this is true we may finally be a viable choice is tpvp

Jasher.6580:

kitten s.7421:

Jasher.6580:

kitten s.7421:

Jasher.6580:

kitten s.7421:

Did someone just say warriors hard counter spirit rangers…….

Yes, because they are.

Please for the love of god be joking. If your not may the gods have mercy on your senseless mind <3

I wouldn’t have been as curt if you didn’t respond like this ^.
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There is nothing worse that someone being condescending AND wrong on top of it. It’s one of my pet peeves.

God than you must really hate yourself huh?

Sigh

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