Guild Wars 2

Yasha.5963:

What is this sudden dislike of dodging/evasion? Its one of the best mechanics in the game and is largely what separates it from tab-targeting mmos.

Yes but some classes and builds have way to much of this like thief s/d. It allows them to build for damage and not having any draw backs for building for damage.

Daecollo.9578:

ensoriki.5789:

So if I spam more nukes now I’ll still deal damage on top of that?
Perfect.

It would allow nukes/one shot mechanics to be drastically lowered in damage.

Hmm i really like this idea. Maybe first dodge is an evade second dodge is a glance. You can only get another evade when your endurance fully recharges.

Stealth.9324:

kitten s.7421:

Seazen.7415:

Arenanet is a BUSINESS….. NOT YOUR mom. They make these games to make MONEY.

Normally, if a business line doesn’t profit, it will be phased out. Would they rather please 80% of the paying population in PVE or the whining 20% in PVP.

YOUR RIGHT! Arenanet is a business! AS soon as i bought this game and gave them my money i became part of that business too. We have every kittening right to complain about a game WE PAYED FOR. Who the kitten are you to tell us we have no right to complain?

White Knights :P and go back to PvE, where you belong. Also, he has no idea what us feedback either obviously.

No joke. At least we know they are reading this thread I had 5 of my posts removed from this thread last night =P.

Already showed one person the true power of ele last night. I couldn’t even show him i had to message him the rotations how to play it and all that. He picked it up fast and is loving it. Anyone else curious and wants to learn go ahead send me a pm. I am on NA but i can also explain it to those on EU.

Seazen.7415:

Arenanet is a BUSINESS….. NOT YOUR mom. They make these games to make MONEY.

Normally, if a business line doesn’t profit, it will be phased out. Would they rather please 80% of the paying population in PVE or the whining 20% in PVP.

YOUR RIGHT! Arenanet is a business! AS soon as i bought this game and gave them my money i became part of that business too. We have every kittening right to complain about a game WE PAYED FOR. Who the kitten are you to tell us we have no right to complain?

Lol idk why my name is filtered either. We need to get the comp back together lol. For a shatter mesmer, power necro, fresh air ele, spirit ranger and I think a pistol whip thief, we owned lol.

I once ask Evan Lesh what he thought about Longbow and he said " I don’t have a kitten between my legs. I have a massive two handed weapon and i plan i using it."

fugazi.5139:

Never heard of him.

Thats because he feels you are not worthy to know who he is

I’ll send you a pm

Log on now Fortus we are both on

Requiem.8769:

kitten s.7421:

Zetus.1476:

Please fix this ASAP.

A single person shouldn’t have the power to kittening ruin 9 other people’s experience.

You mean 4 people’s experience. When i notice my team is full of rank 1s and preform a blood sacrifice and pray that the other team has an afker.

Apparently it’s working. You must play a lot of PvP.

You don’t want to know what i have to sacrifice on a pentagram to not get skyhammer.

Fortus.6175:

kitten s.7421:

Fortus.6175:

You know what? I will. This week is complicated for me because work and studies but on the weekend Im free. I want to see this “pro ele” you are so proud off, I want him to consistently beat me, I do not know how to uploa videos (nor I think my computer can handle it) but lets settle this once and for all; if he can burst me 100-0 in more than 5 and still survive after the burst fails for any reason then I will stop, f not you will stop trolling ele threads. Do we have a deal?

I am not trolling ele threads…… The class is far better then how most people make it out to be and judging from the past aka necros underpowered buff them. The samething will happen to eles. If you want to fight him sure. Hes a really nice guy and a great player we would love to help.

Please drop the condescending tone. I have agreed to the duel, after that we will decide the outcome.

I am in all seriousness not trying to be condescending at all. Add my in game and send me a mail. Saying your characters name so i know who you are and the day you want to duel him/learn/improve. Add me Dr Professor Evil. Or kitten s.7421 kitten it my name turns into kitten. just look at my name its red and in the corner.

Zetus.1476:

Please fix this ASAP.

A single person shouldn’t have the power to kittening ruin 9 other people’s experience.

You mean 4 peoples experience. When i notice my team is full of rank 1s and preform a blood sacrifice and pray that the other team has an afker.

Stealth.9324:

kitten s.7421:

Stealth.9324:

“Fear me!!!I am justice! I am the law..Roarrrr…”

Ha ha ha.. Judge Redd. Nice :p. Thank you, I laugh so hard

Dredd* glad you enjoyed it. Threads like these need to be diffused with humor.

Fortus.6175:

You know what? I will. This week is complicated for me because work and studies but on the weekend Im free. I want to see this “pro ele” you are so proud off, I want him to consistently beat me, I do not know how to uploa videos (nor I think my computer can handle it) but lets settle this once and for all; if he can burst me 100-0 in more than 5 and still survive after the burst fails for any reason then I will stop, f not you will stop trolling ele threads. Do we have a deal?

I am not trolling ele threads…… The class is far better then how most people make it out to be and judging from the past aka necros underpowered buff them. The samething will happen to eles. If you want to fight him sure. Hes a really nice guy and a great player we would love to help.

This is me whenever i do underwater combat. You have to look the part

Fortus.6175:

kitten s.7421:

-idjiotic post

sigh, the troll arrived.

Anyways, instead of talking so much, why dont you play the class and show all of us poor 1 handed blind deaf and mentally challenged eles who picked up the class 2 days ago how to play instead of watching your “friend” magically burst someone every now and then?

Because that post is making you look bad, like really dude, Im starting to feel sorrow for you :/

Sure i’d love to show you. My friend and I love to help eles who are having trouble with the class. Add me ingame.

You can ask Darnis. I play with one of best eles. He showed me how to play I had my doubts about the class but i was shown how to really play it. If you want help send me pm. You are the definition of a qlqmentalist if you ignore the help i am offering.

I just found his IRL picture.

1. S/d
2. 0/30/0/10/30
3. Learn the burst combos
4. Practice the burst combos a lot
5. understand the class
6. Play safe
7. Stay back doing ranged harass until their is a proper opening
8. Go in using a massive burst combo and leave.
9. Ride the lightning and Lightning flash are better positioning and defensive spells then offense spells
10. Know your classes limit
11. Stay out of cleave
12 When you see a downed player that is the perfect opportunity to burst because their will be tons of people trying to stomp/rez said person.
13. PRACTICE

their follow this and now you are good ele. For now on i dub this class qlqmentalists. So now we have wqrrqirs and qlqmentalists. Whats next?

Arheundel.6451:

kitten s.7421:

Ill start.
1. S/d
2. 0/30/0/10/30
3. Learn the burst combos
4. Practice the burst combos a lot
5. understand the class
6. Play safe
7. Stay back doing ranged harass until their is a proper opening
8. Go in using a massive burst combo and leave.
9. Ride the lightning and Lightning flash are better positioning and defensive spells then offense spells
10. Know your classes limit
11. Stay out of cleave
12 When you see a downed player that is the perfect opportunity to burst because their will be tons of people trying to stomp/rez said person.
13. PRACTICE

Can you pls stop making a fool out of you?
You’ve just described the way to play a burst role …in pretty much every MMO out there, you really believe to be super smart don’t you?

Yes i just i did. Now how about you go play this way and you will see that ele fills this role really well.

Stealth.9324:

“Fear me!!!I am justice! I am the law..Roarrrr…”

Arheundel.6451:

kitten s.7421:

The whole reason complain and make lists like these and complain and qq is because they care about the game. If they didn’t care about want the game to get better they would just quit.
I agree with your list on everything but the engi healing turret.
This game has amazing potential. This game can become esports or extremely popular but the way anet is taking it. This game will dead in another year unless anet does some sweeping changes.

You’re the last person who should talk..or even dare to say of caring about the game.
Somebody who talk like this : Noob! l2p scrub! uninstall, the class too hard for you! etc etc
You, @lordrosicky and @Mrbig do not care about the game, you’re just people with an over inflated ego.

Alright when you are an ele complaining about burst damage and wanting the class changed so it can be easier for you to play. I am going to call you out. But seriously I care about this game and I want it to succeed that is why every thread on the forums are ideas and ways to change the game. Since all the posts are opinions they appear right the the person and other people who agree. If i wanted this game to fail I would just stop playing it. Everyone gets frustrated when they want a game to succeed but it keeps on making mistakes.

HUZZAH! I have arrived! Don’t fear my fair maiden, Guild wars of 2 I have come to protect you! You are so perfect and everyone else is to dumb to see it! Please anet pay me for protecting you!

Ill start.
1. S/d
2. 0/30/0/10/30
3. Learn the burst combos
4. Practice the burst combos a lot
5. understand the class
6. Play safe
7. Stay back doing ranged harass until their is a proper opening
8. Go in using a massive burst combo and leave.
9. Ride the lightning and Lightning flash are better positioning and defensive spells then offense spells
10. Know your classes limit
11. Stay out of cleave
12 When you see a downed player that is the perfect opportunity to burst because their will be tons of people trying to stomp/rez said person.
13. PRACTICE

hey Darnis remember that ele we ran with Lord Earle that really amazing ele who proved that eles are fine as long as the person understands the class? We need to have him teach Fortus.6175 how to play ele.

The whole reason complain and make lists like these and complain and qq is because they care about the game. If they didn’t care about want the game to get better they would just quit.
I agree with your list on everything but the engi healing turret.
This game has amazing potential. This game can become esports or extremely popular but the way anet is taking it. This game will dead in another year unless anet does some sweeping changes.

How much did arena net pay you to post these things? Can you get me on board? Because trolling the entire pvp population in this game and getting paid to do it sounds amazing.

Darnis.4056:

Let’s clear things up; your post history still exists. YOU came into this forum and started OFF with your rating score.

Xom: in GVG thread which was removed from PVP forums.

You are arguing with people that are just not very good at the game. I doubt any of them are even on the top of the leader boards if they were they would know warrior is a powerhouse.

@ all the PvPers that think they are elite

GvGers are on your leader boards killing your dudes. Conquest mode promotes poor play and cheese gimmicks this is clear as you see how low the skill level is of the best pvper when put against the skill level of the best GvGers.

I challenged you To fight; You dodged and then challenged me to 8v8 hotjoin.

Oh and then Deleted that post; and a lot of other kittenposts; Cowardice at it’s finest.
You and your buddy wyrog should just stay in your pve forums if all you’re going to do is talk big and then shy away when challenged.

We need to get kitten group going again that was fun. Next time try not to d/c xD <3 jk

Daecollo.9578:

kitten s.7421:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJgOgVxVDO8

Yah this looks really balanced….

Horrible players are horrible.

They looked like new players who just started the game, they weren’t even using any sort of spec and the clones just stood there auto-attacking instead of using them to shatter or anything.

In fact.. they were just standing AROUND while you snuck up on them, it looks like they were partly afk before the match even started.

They both failed as mesmers.

My necromancer could destroy 4-5 of these guys probably.

These mesmers are HORRIBLE!
1 They move around and run away so you know exactly which ones are which.
2 They are both using old builds, not running shatter.
3 They are not using staff to disengage.
4 They are not abusing stealth to confuse their opponent.
5 They are just bad players.
6 Your playing SoloQ in a match that is more then 5v5 fighting against randomly ranked players.

If you play your class safe and refuse to pressure the Warrior, then your NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER going to ever beat him.

Yes lets pressure the wqrrqir because as soon as go to attack them we are going to get stunned and crted for 3-4k. Seriously wqrrqirs complains about thieves damage. Hammer hits stunned targets for ridiculous damage.

Scoobaniec.9561:

I don’t know whats so great in hammer+lb.. Im eating them alive with hammer+mace/shield..

More aoe better condi cleanse better damage due to might stacks has a ranged option its more tpvp orientated.

The bs op build that beats everyone is 0/10/30/0/30 Hammer Longbow

Yah this looks really balanced….

sorrow.2364:

BurrTheKing.8571:

Your post oozes of ignorance. Spamming stuns on CD is a great way to miss them.

You sure?
Because as far as I know, the stun cooldowns are so low that you can afford to spam them mindlessly. I even use Earthshaker on enemy I’m sure they have stability on, because I just don’t care. 8s later I’ll have ES back on.

AND it will remove 3 condis

sorrow.2364:

kitten s.7421:

Play power necro and call that brain dead

Yeah, he should.
He should also try to play condition Necro without Dhuumfire.

Its sad that easy one to play is significantly better because its easy. Power necro would be viable if the meta was all spam condis

Razor.6392:

Warrior stunlock build and any necro build.

Most braindead classes in the game atm

Play power necro and call that brain dead

Hammer Longbow = God mode

Lol eles can 1v5 underwater with Whirlpool

Daecollo.9578:

kitten s.7421:

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Did you edit that to make it bigger?

Yah lol I only had one u so you really couldn’t see it.

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starlesskc.4987:

My team – Coffee and Cigarettes [CC]
We usually play nights and our roster varies from time to time, but were always out and about. I see Blacklisted [ENVY] still playing too.

I think my friend Lord Earle and I played against you guys.

Condi necros will generally beat engis. MM necros are usually power and bomb kit will destroy them.

Knote.2904:

kitten s.7421:

jportell.2197:

Knote.2904:

jportell.2197:

I am actually talking about an ele running 0/30/0/10/30 and yes he is still using cantrips but his burst hits like a truck since my entire team can stack 25 stacks of might easy peasy.

25 stacks of might makes anyone hit like a truck.

Okay it hits like a rocket ship then… Not too mention eles have better team support through better blasts and combo fields.
Blast Finisher=Team friendly
Leap Finisher=selfish….

Dude don’t even try. These eles just want to sit around qq because they are having trouble. I have even offered to show them the power of ele, but all they want to do is sit around and whine and hope their class gets a buff so its easier to play.

People with big ego’s like this are part of the problem, keep holding back a poorly designed class so you can feel pro, it’s really sad.

I’ve played Ele since beta, I was doing Staff bunker 1v3-5 BS IN BETA, before it even started becoming popular, blah blah blah, I’m not a noob, the challenge and constantly swapping is why I rolled Ele, it’s not rewarding despite all the effort however, not to mention clunky.

Instead anyone who likes the challenge of a class like Ele should just go play LoL where high skill champs like Anivia/Syndra, etc are actually rewarded for their efforts, this game utterly fails at it, which is funny considering how much it desperately tries to be like LoL.

So far Engy is a better replacement, same sort of high skill, jack of all trades class but isn’t utter fail, I’ll go enjoy my 0 cooldown kits lol, have fun inflating your ego.

Go play engi then lol. You are a qlqmentalist

Ryld.1340:

kitten s.7421:

Air training, blasting staff (never take it actually hurts more then helps), and Persisting flames are all kitten traits. They need to be changed or flat out removed.

How is Blasting Staff bad?
Also, Persisting Flames gives perma-fury to your party.

At first it seems good taht increases the size of your aoes. But it increases the size of meteor storm and taht means since the range is longer the targets have less chance to be hit by the meteors. Its the same for static field. It makes it bigger and it gives your targets room t breath if they get trapped. In the long run its really not worth it.

Air training, blasting staff (never take it actually hurts more then helps), and Persisting flames are all kitten traits. They need to be changed or flat out removed.

I for once agree with you Daecollo.9578. A large part of this game comes from reading animation since their are no cast bars in this. Asura are small so that means all of their animations are A LOT smaller. An easy fix would be just give people cast bars. Or we can normalize models in pvp. This is a serious issue and honestly i wonder why anet put in a very small sized class in a game based off of reading animation.

jportell.2197:

Knote.2904:

jportell.2197:

I am actually talking about an ele running 0/30/0/10/30 and yes he is still using cantrips but his burst hits like a truck since my entire team can stack 25 stacks of might easy peasy.

25 stacks of might makes anyone hit like a truck.

Okay it hits like a rocket ship then… Not too mention eles have better team support through better blasts and combo fields.
Blast Finisher=Team friendly
Leap Finisher=selfish….

Dude don’t even try. These eles just want to sit around qq because they are having trouble. I have even offered to show them the power of ele, but all they want to do is sit around and whine and hope their class gets a buff so its easier to play.

BurrTheKing.8571:

kitten s.7421:

BurrTheKing.8571:

Poxxia.1547:

BurrTheKing.8571:

I can see Thief or Mesmer glass cannons becoming good. As a Warrior I can say that they can shut me down really fast if I can’t lock them down quickly. In team fights they can be a nightmare.

While I can easily see the issue you have with thieves, I am really curious what viable mesmer-build is causing you trouble as warrior?
I find warriors with all their cleansing and regen to be almost unkillable in the viable builds. I have 1 build, that fairs pretty well vs warriors (if they mess up nicely), but that build does suffer in terms in viability. Warriors don’t have to do these kind of compromises, and that is imho what is so wrong about them in their current state.

They have high hp, high toughness (or something else that ensure that they can both survive and/or escape), high burst (on stunned targets), low cd on key abilities (CC fx), and ofc very nice cleansing.
Compare to other classes, and tell me you have to make compromises (see fx mesmers)?

Mesmers have access to enough teleports and stun breaks that hitting a full combo with a Hammer 1v1 or a Skull Crack + 100b is pretty much impossible. Even if you focus on using longbow a smart Mesmer will spread their clones out so that you can’t take them all out. It can be a long fight but unless they screw up they can pretty much avoid fighting putting themselves in danger, if you do catch them they can just pop Distortion. Stuns are pretty much a joke to a Mesmer that’s built right.

I can actually beat even Evade Spam Thieves if I just use the longbow and stand in the combustion shot. Hit them with a few Arching Shots and a Pin Down and they’re done. They can’t stay in the Combustive Shot and if they fall back you’ll just heal up so they either have to be aggressive and risk me switching to Hammer or they play passive and I’ll keep them back with my bow.

Yes stuns are a joke against a mesmer. But you land your longbow 5 and predict bursts you will win.

We’re not talking 1v1 mind you. In a team fight, I as a Warrior would be focusing the condition guys while the Thief or Mesmer focuses me. Warriors will maybe have to have somebody watching their back as well. I really think buffing Mesmers in any significant manor isn’t necessary.

They may need a bit more active condition removal but even then that may make Warrior obsolete considering that they’re pretty darn strong it’s just that conditions eat them up. Now that things are changing a bit that may not be such big issue.

Oh. Yah i completely agree with you. Mesmer don’t need any buffs at all. Its fine to be countered by something. The only reason you don’t see mesmers anymore is all the condi and aoe spam. When the meta changes everything will be fine again

BurrTheKing.8571:

Poxxia.1547:

BurrTheKing.8571:

I can see Thief or Mesmer glass cannons becoming good. As a Warrior I can say that they can shut me down really fast if I can’t lock them down quickly. In team fights they can be a nightmare.

While I can easily see the issue you have with thieves, I am really curious what viable mesmer-build is causing you trouble as warrior?
I find warriors with all their cleansing and regen to be almost unkillable in the viable builds. I have 1 build, that fairs pretty well vs warriors (if they mess up nicely), but that build does suffer in terms in viability. Warriors don’t have to do these kind of compromises, and that is imho what is so wrong about them in their current state.

They have high hp, high toughness (or something else that ensure that they can both survive and/or escape), high burst (on stunned targets), low cd on key abilities (CC fx), and ofc very nice cleansing.
Compare to other classes, and tell me you have to make compromises (see fx mesmers)?

Mesmers have access to enough teleports and stun breaks that hitting a full combo with a Hammer 1v1 or a Skull Crack + 100b is pretty much impossible. Even if you focus on using longbow a smart Mesmer will spread their clones out so that you can’t take them all out. It can be a long fight but unless they screw up they can pretty much avoid fighting putting themselves in danger, if you do catch them they can just pop Distortion. Stuns are pretty much a joke to a Mesmer that’s built right.

I can actually beat even Evade Spam Thieves if I just use the longbow and stand in the combustion shot. Hit them with a few Arching Shots and a Pin Down and they’re done. They can’t stay in the Combustive Shot and if they fall back you’ll just heal up so they either have to be aggressive and risk me switching to Hammer or they play passive and I’ll keep them back with my bow.

Yes stuns are a joke against a mesmer. But you land your longbow 5 and predict bursts you will win.

lol not at all. I am just tired seeing people qq about ele. Some of the qq is justified but most of it isnt. If you honestly want to see the full potential of ele add me. My friend and i would love to help you destroy as this class.