Guild Wars 2

RedCobra.7693:

umm with the majority of rangers who are kids that just want to use a longbow i find it rather amusing using reflet against them

While I agree with reflects being awesome, I don’t think we’ll see many longbows underwater. Brings up a good point that I think is very relevant though – how good are reflects underwater?

Mr Indigo.4621:

I completely agree with Agony. I run Sword/Focus and Staff with primarily power/precision/crit damage gear with 0/30/30/10/0 traits (sounds weird, but seriously, try it out. So dank). With sword training, warden’s feedback, and the trait that decreases the cd on staff skills, there isn’t really any time to be auto attacking with WoC. With these weapons and traits you have the bulk/utility to support 100% melee uptime, which means sword auto attack is much more useful.

I know this is a bit off topic, but I’m always checking out new build options. You mention warden’s feedback with your 0/30/30/10/0 build – how is that possible? I’m thinking you must have a typo – don’t you have to have 20 in Inspiration for Warden’s Feedback?

Would love to have you post your build somewhere (in a new topic maybe?), would be awesome to check it out!

If you’re roaming and being chased by a larger group, dropping the Portal Entre (with no intention of ever using it) will frequently make most of the chasers hover over the portal for the 60 seconds it takes for it to despawn. I’ve had quite a few times where just doing that has evened the odds enough for me to either get away or kill the pursuers.

Mesmer mind games ftw.

MrSilver.5269:

Which server is [FUN] on?

Fun is on every server. Bah dum dum.

(Have no idea where that tag is from)

Just wanted to say a quick thanks to CD’s [TDS] guild tonight for organizing the GvG for us. It was a baptism by fire for me (long time WvW player, never really had the urge to GvG though) and had a great time!

Oh, and also wanted to mention the two [LoR] quaggen guys running through our group from time to time – had a good time yanking you around occasionally. /cheer

Evalana.5480:

Kittens are so cute, cuddly and furry ♥ Unless they are hairless ones, then they look weird and stuff.

:)

I’m gonna go take a nap in Bay now ♥

How odd, I’m so confuzled. Did you transfer, Eva?

Jackums.3496:

Carighan.6758:

And you can’t not use that when facing a Ranger? It’s not like downing people is any difficult underwater.

Durzlla.6295:

You could always go ahead and do this amazing thing called bring sig of dom or mantra of distraction, or you know, not use that skill while fighting a ranger, i mean cmon, does it -need- to be used?

Thank you, Captain Obvious #1 and #2. I was obviously speaking in the context of not going into every underwater battle knowing what’s going to happen, especially considering you can’t control who attacks you.

You’re a bit rude and condescending, considering that YOU are the one that has difficulty with rangers, not everyone. You can try to prove people wrong, but it’s different for other players apparently. I don’t have a problem with rangers – at least, they can’t kill me and I can’t kill them underwater. They won’t “eventually kill me if they keep their pet on me.” I’ve 1v1’ed rangers – where else are they going to keep their pet other than attacking me? And yes, the result was the same for me – ranger in downed state, pet rezzing faster than I can kill him. Now, you can continue to go ahead and say I’m wrong and try to defend it, but somehow a statement of “your experience is incorrect, that ranger really did kill you and you’re not remembering it right” seems a bit silly.

ykyk.2740:

SoR is impossibly ahead of any other server in WvW. I’m sure Aurust is the main reason behind that, because otherwise the amount of emphasis and sheer dedication he shows in drilling this fact in everyone else would seem outright silly, wouldn’t it?

…wouldn’t it?

Downright silly indeed. Or outright silly.

Which leads to the question – what’s the difference between downright silly and outright silly?

Answer – it doesn’t matter, both apply to Aurust’s trolling.

Aurust.8961:

No need to get negative. Even though you are getting utterly destroyed when the previous week you thought you may have stood a chance against a tier 1 server, you should still come out and fight. Zombie Coast remember you never give up……. even though you are a paper EB territory away from zero ppt.

Ah, I’ve really missed our #1 groupie in this matchup thread. Welcome back!

Jackums.3496:

We’ll lose to a Ranger, but that’s about it.

I don’t necessarily agree with this, although it’s just my personal experience. Fighting rangers, I just can’t kill them (pet rez being OP), but they spend nearly the entire fight in downed state until one of us breaks off. xD

I call that a win in my book, even if they don’t die. lol

Sab.5291:

I think SOS packed it in for the week. All I see are SoR and TC comments.

SOS … —- …

SOR has been ignoring you so far this week!!! GET IN GAME!!!

SoS’s PPT is higher than ours is right now. Maybe we’re the ones that need to get in game. xD

I also don’t think they’ve packed it in, although I wasn’t in WvW last night. SoS never quit last week, and I doubt they’ll do it this week either. Great fights.

Calvin.5380:

This 2v1 crying should stop. Both JQ and BG are capable of capturing DB territory on their own. They don’t need to 2v1. Same thing happened with TC/FA…. just get over it.

Give ‘em hell, DB! Well, and BG and JQ too – since I’m peanut gallery’ing, might as well root for good fights from all of you.

Regarding the 2v1 in the TC/FA/DB matchup – that actually did happen. After so many 2v1 calls in the forums, we started breaking walls for FA to rush in and cap while we saluted… then all alt-tabbed to the forums to see how quickly it would be posted. xD

DB, just keep up the fight, fellas. The more outnumbered you are, the easier it is to find good fights. And with the new ranking system thing, PPT is out the window. Who cares about score? Just have fun and take it to ’em!

This has been an awesome matchup, really fun even if the score says otherwise. Tonight, watching SoR on TCBL treb/take down hills north wall, only to be sent out by ACs a few times, then split to break south gate, repulsed again, then north wall again, set up trebs on the west wall, take out siege, break inner wall, repulsed for a bit, then finally take it… very innovative, we countered some of your stuff well but you definitely deserved Hills. (Yes, I know that was a really long run-on sentence. Ha.)

Pretty impressed with your cohesion and whoever was commanding. GJ, and really fun fight!

neomccoy.2657:

Hi everyone, just want to shar [RE]’s first WvW night as members of TC family. We are having a blast so far.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S9E1W9dduk

I’ve missed the RE videos! Welcome aboard fellas, glad to have you with us!

Hickeroar.9734:

Yeah, we’ve seen some guild groups who are very strong/scary while others just melt. I think it just comes down to Guild’s goals in WvW. Some are there to provide an organized presence, others are there to be scary balls of torture. :-P

LOL @ “scary balls of torture”. You have a way with words, my friend. xD

+1 for folks looking into SoS. I saw SoS the first time during Kaineng’s rocket ride to T2, then transferred to TC, where we’ve “drawn” SoS as our opponents for two weeks in a row. Outmanned a lot of the time, they are always fighting, and fighting well.

Tons of respect for SoS as a server in WvW.

IXJac.4197:

TC really brought their A game tonight, and it definitely showed in SOR BL. That fight – campaign really – around Bay was epic, from TC battering at us from all directions until they took it, and then hammering us continually as we tried to retake it.

Didn’t know who EP and CERN were before, but I sure do now!

Sounds awesome, glad everyone on SoR BL had a great time! SoS BL was fun too, SoS really brings it. We had our three omegas porting all over that dang map trying to stay ahead of the SoS folks. Fun night tonight!

While I’d agree if we saw SoS and SoR engaged in an open field battle we’d likely try to leave (and have left) the SoS folks alone, I just can’t see any type of majority passing up the opportunity for a good fight, regardless of what server is represented. Winning the PPT game is nice when it happens, but the good fights are what it’s all about, for me anyway. SoS brings plenty of those good fights… so of course, we’re going to seek ’em out. ;-)

2v1 against SoR is a nice idea, just not one that I think we’ll see alot of.

Kjendar.6459:

I just want to say thanks to SOS/TC for staying to fight the open field battles rather than run in the towers and throw down AC’s like tier 1 has done since they got the buff. Hope everyone has fun this week.

Cheers! It really makes the decision easier when PPT makes absolutely no difference – who cares if we hold towers and whatnot? xD Glad you’re having a good time – most of us on TC are having a blast as well, especially when we aren’t worried about score, just the fights.

Holy cow, I just sounded like FA – no wonder they love WvW so much! LOL

Well, the matchup in terms of score might be lopsided, but there sure are some awesome fights to be had all the same! Our spawn camp on SoR BL was pretty fun a little bit ago, and when we took the NW tower and held it for awhile (until the SoR minions REALLY showed up in force anyway lol)… just a couple of awesome fights of the many that were had tonight.

Great time, awesome job by SoS and SoR both. Oh, and after catching up on the matchup thread… all I can say is wow. Hopefully the lack of trolling will continue throughout the week!

/salute

WyldKat.4712:

Niim.9260:

This pervasive view that everyone go defensive because we all stand in a giant ball is a crutch, so you do not have to learn to position, move, dodge or rely on the support of your team.

It’s awkward, but you can put a hurt on someone with a crutch if you try hard enough. Just sayin’.

Bloody brilliant. xD xD xD

That’ll get you a few pieces of the rare Invader stuff iirc. I’ll do some research when I get home – surfing the net on my phone isn’t the best. LOL

If you leveled from 1-80 in WvW, I’m thinking you probably have a nice stack of badges. Even the rare PVT stuff will make you pretty tough with this build. Plus, there are three PVT exotic armor pieces you can get from the temple karma merchants (don’t remember which off the top of my head, will edit this tonight when I can get in game).

Well, since this was WvW and it was a bit hectic, I can’t be entirely sure, but I was thinking that the other player may have been actively blocking (like our scepter #2 or sword #4), and just happened to have Aegis up on the boon bar.

Has anyone tested actively blocking Arcane Thievery? I see that Nretep mentioned the GW2 Wiki and unblockable, but I’m always a bit leery of trusting any info that comes from any Wiki site. LOL

Great job tonight – SoS BL, particularly Bay, was awesome just a little bit ago. SoS’ tenacity let them hold out against us in the Lord’s Room, followed by FA right behind us, then I was able to hide for a time and port us back in… and it’s still in SoS hands. Couldn’t hide a second time, you guys caught me. lol You guys are tenacious buggers. xD

/salute

While playing in WvW tonight, we noticed that Aegis blocks Arcane Thievery. AFAIK, Aegis is considered a boon, and I don’t think it’s considered an “attack”. So, shouldn’t Arcane Thievery steal Aegis, rather than be blocked by it?

Kinda curious whether this is intended or not.

Slashco.3927:

This has to be the most unbalanced matchup I’ve ever seen. The FA and TC folks that think it’s great to beat up on a T4 server… well, I don’t know what to say to you. I do know that ANET won’t be getting anymore GEM $ from me if things are like this. I want balanced North American fights, which SOS had until this last week.

ANet won’t have to worry, though, if they don’t get your gems – they get plenty from TC whenever they introduce the next “gosh that’s cool looking!” thing. xD

I’m seeing plenty of SoS “this is a fun matchup!” posts – you might want to talk to them, maybe they can help you see the light. It’s those folks who are getting tons of lootbags and carrying your server to a higher Glicko rating.

/salute to the SoS folks fighting the good fight. You guys rock.

Gellor.6497:

This current match is moronic at best. GL FA/TC

Keep it up, tho! You’re back in front of TC in Glicko, you stand a better chance at getting SoR, BG, or JQ next week. It’ll get better!

timidobserver.7925:

Ummm, don’t put TC in the some group of stupid that FA is in. TC protects their home yes, but they don’t do it to the point that it becomes a detriment like FA does. You could literally send a group of 20 people over to FA’s home BL, and just have that group to charge at the 60-80 man zerg that shows up to stop them while you take everything else they have on any other map.

Stop. Just stop.

Embarrassing.

Gellor.6497:

Who cares who won the tier….. We had fun or at least I did. I made some good friends on TC/FA and I’ll be talking to you soon

Agreed. Every week’s matchup resulted in great fights pretty much across the board. I know there may be some that are cringing that TC and FA are facing one another again this week, but personally, makes me happy. Can always count on FA to bring it.

Mayoken.9851:

Chest thumping always happens. Ours may be in forms of posting and TC throws cookies and toast at you. It’s the same thing. Yeah go ahead and look through my post history. I’m not saying nobody thumped chests. People pretend like DB is the only one that had server pride/arrogance.

In my opinion, TC, DB, BG, JQ, and SOR all have it too if you look throughout their threads. FA is humble.

Point taken. We’ve all likely bragged some at one point or another. Still, your challenge to get DB below 200 PPT that resulted in double digit DB PPT was classic! (And I mean this humorously, by the way – that challenge probably contributed the most to building respect and better relations between TC and FA than anything either server could have done lol).

Jayne.9251:

Rawr.5930:

Mayoken.9851:

So Dragonbrand was overall victorious?

NNK, TFV, AT, GA ftw.

But you hear nary a peep from them, classy as always.

You forgot AGG in that list. Always something pleasant to say or encouraging those guys.

Could also add FIRE and most of EA to that list as well, imo.

Mayoken.9851:

Perhaps you guys don’t understand sarcasm. Completely taking my statement out of proportion. TC won the Tier 2 match up. You guys and FA are both fierce opponents.

It AMAZES me how you guys LOVE to troll Dragonbrand. Love you guys

A quick look at posting history shows an amount of empty chest thumping on your part, dude – without much to back it up. To be honest, I doubt most on either TC or FA have anything against DB as a whole. It’s been almost exclusively the past arrogance of some of the new transfers that made DB look bad, of which you were certainly guilty.

Shouldn’t surprise you that people expect more arrogance from you and miss your “sarcasm”.

Seigfried.5938:

I am not being sarcastic. Fighting every week knowing your side is going to win by 80k became too stale. For the first time since we dropped to tier 4 we are being challenged. Thank you TC and FA for showing us how the pros do it.

Thanks for the shout out, appreciate it! And as for SoS, you taught me a bunch of stuff last night, usually with a spike through my head. lol

As for the matchup bring unbalanced (talking to the OP now), were you really having fun completely dominating T4? I bet most were not – coming from Kaineng originally, I have a bunch of experience with being crushed as well as completely crushing our opposition. In terms of fun and given those two choices, I’ll take the losing side any day. It’s easier to find fights. ;-)

Take your week off. Come back refreshed – but you won’t be getting any better, unlike your comrades on SoS who are showing spirit and earning tons of respect.

Great fights tonight – SoS, the folks you had defending inner Hills on FABL a few hours ago were tenacious as heck. Epic fight.

And of course, FA is bringing it like they always do.

Oh, and like Jayne said earlier – TC and FA have the most to lose here. Currently, SoS is in third place by a bit, but gaining like 37 Glicko points, while TC and FA are both losing points. Keep it up!

I mentioned this the last time this topic was discussed. My solution is simple and fixes ALL of the problems with mesmer downed state.

QUIT DYING.

wads.5730:

this has never been the case. you’re probably mistaking damage done by illusions themselves (shatter damage included) or inflight projectiles, rather than the attacks that illusions do.

the autoattacks that clones and phantasms do have never counted as your own damage.

The easy proof for this is to check your combat log. Illusion damage isn’t listed.

(Of course, that may only mean the combat log is broken, which wouldn’t really surprise me.)

Rawr.5930:

Arkanfel.8403:

Furiousbeard.7602:

Epic tier 2 battles of history!!!

TC vs FA vs DB!!!

Who won?
Who’s next?
TC decides!

Fixed that for ya ;p

Dont sell yourself short.

If DB can muster the same participation in the first 2 weeks of this matchup, if i were a betting man – my money would be on you.

This. DB has the same folks it had when it won T2 for the week. FA has shown that the loss of two WvW guilds has actually made them stronger.

T2, imo, is very much anyone’s game.

And Mr. Beard, you made me lawl hard enough to spit out coffee with your original post. Thanks. xD

WyldKat.4712:

You’d rather be killing bags and farming dragons? How would that even work?

Bags are fairly dangerous, especially when they’re wounded.

Furiousbeard.7602:

TC, is SOR your ex before FA came in to the picture?

They seem hostile…

SoR wants us back, but we’ve moved on to better things. Understandably, that stings somewhat – and tends to lead to lashing out randomly.

Jayne.9251:

Dhampyr.2104:

PS. This response was weaksauce. I thought you were more creative than that.

He’s not. And really should just be ignored.

Agreed – I’m just bored, drinking my coffee, and thought I’d play with the wildlife.

Back on topic for our matchup – was too tired last night to post, but really had fun constantly map hopping. SMC fights in particular were pretty good all night long, wore me out though!

Looks like we get one more week of the DB/FA/TC matchup – woohoo! Best Dub v. Dub in GW2!

Aurust.8961:

Dhampyr.2104:

Aurust.8961:

Man, DB taking third place has to be hard to take for certain people there. I guess we will see just how resilient DB’s wvw community is or if it will suffer the same fate as KN.

Everyone has accepted this in T2 quite some time ago. I wonder if SoR’s response time is this slow in game as well.

I think once SOR is ticking 600+ 24/7 vs TC u’ll find out. SOR knows very well how easy it is to crush the morale of TC’s PVE’rs…..

And no, its not necessarily about skill, our coverage will ensure that when your NA prime forces meet ours, SOR’s already dominant NA will already be inside waypointed tier 3 keeps. Good luck with that…..

Meh, I was on KN when the same thing happened to TC. TC has weathered it before. I’m sure we’ll be just fine. Thanks for the concern though! :-)

PS. This response was weaksauce. I thought you were more creative than that.

Aurust.8961:

Man, DB taking third place has to be hard to take for certain people there. I guess we will see just how resilient DB’s wvw community is or if it will suffer the same fate as KN.

Everyone has accepted this in T2 quite some time ago. I wonder if SoR’s response time is this slow in game as well.

Just for giggles, ran this build tonight in WvW… Definitely a convert. My guild group is melee heavy, so when we come across a group heavy with ranged, it used to be problematic. Not so much anymore. Great build, love it!

Thanks.

etrigan.4213:

In all seriousness, and despite all the crap talking I have done recently:

This has been a great matchup. Every week has been fun.

With the changes coming up, we could be seeing some different opponents…lets just remember how much better Tier 2 in its current state is right now as opposed to Tier 1.

Lets face it, we are better servers than them. They have coverage. Otherwise they are weak sauce.

+1. Fantastic matchup. And hey, without smack talking, it would all be less fun!

Niim.9260:

Dhampyr.2104:

The utter lack of understanding of WvW in the QQ of this thread is amazing, and I’ll leave it at that.

Don’t like WvW? Go do some PvE stuff and have some fun. It’ll save us from having to see the QQ in map chat. You’re happy and having fun, we’re happy and having fun. Win all the way around.

So says a zergling from a zerg guild.

Personally I do not mind the zergs nearly as much as I mind that the game seems to have set the skill cap one notch above ‘dreadfully easy’ and seem content to leave it there.

Some commanders yea they are using skill and tactics, no question. Some of the siege placement guru’s, yea they are using tactics as well. The map PPT strategists, I appreciate their skill. So if you have all those on a map at the same time that is what 5-10 people using skill and strategy while the rest follow them around like sheep spamming their tagging skill of choice?

This game is designed to be played on auto pilot while you watch TV. I cannot think of a game that has as low skill cap as this one, granted I haven’t played hello kitty island adventure.

Huh, have no clue who you are. We must have killed you a bunch or something, you’re kinda bitter.

Anyway, feel free to watch TV while we kill you some more – quit filling your loot bag with spikes though, it’d be nice if you’d drop some good loot.

Wow, that [Agg] death ball is impressive. I guess the only saving grace for us with you having that many folks in one place is that we can take a bunch of points at once, keeping our PPT nice and high.

Still, it’s always an oh kitten moment when that sea of red comes at you… xD

/salute

Godsend.3815:

Since you know what you’re looking for, may i suggest getting a dev to just close this thread and do what you need to do to make your final decision. This thread has went from servers selling themselves to servers discrediting servers. It’ll just continue to go downhill. While i wouldn’t go so far as to tell you not to listen to anyone, i will however, suggest to get past the trollage and take what’s been said with a grain of salt. In the end, you guys know better than anyone from any server what’s best for your guild.

Good luck and hope to see you on the battlefield in the future.

This is wisdom.

Also, I’d like to apologize to RE for my part of derailing your thread. Bad on me, and I hope you guys end up somewhere where you’re happy and the game is fun for you.

Three words – Public Test Realm.

It amazes me that sweeping changes are apparently made without playtesting.

Arkanfel.8403:

All the truth in this thread is just delicious :9

Fixed that for ya.

Edit – probably should clarify that all of the DB transfers haven’t been chest thumpers – Agg and FIRE are great examples of amazing fighters who earn respect, both on the battlefield and in the forums. There are just a couple of transfer smack talking guilds that generate quite a bit of drama.

If DB is chosen for RE, I’m positive you guys will fit right in the Agg and FIRE category.

OrigJoker.1870:

It’s funny….TC, FA, BG etc… have ALL gotten tons of transfers to help them be where they are and only DB is considered a “bandwagon”….Keep trolling.

I wouldn’t really consider it trolling for TC or FA. None of their transfers talked a bunch of crapola like the DB transfers did. The DB transfers did this to themselves, and it’s a shame the original, classy DB community takes the heat for it. There’s a difference between “transfers” and “bandwagon transfers”.

Back on topic – maybe RE should go to DB and show folks how it’s done right. Anywhere RE ends up will be better off for it.

Cygnus.6903:

I smell a thief…

No but seriously.. there are more cc skills with more or less instant cast time. Why target this one?

+1. I smell a thief that doesn’t want to be yanked out of his shadow refuge.