Guild Wars 2

I dislike p1 in PuGs… It’s that darn console hacking room. Someone always messes it up. Last time I had a PuG break at the last second because he was afraid that the defender couldn’t handle the bombs. :|

… joining CoE parties! o_o;

It’s obvious ANet needs to fix the problem by either renaming one of the two dungeons or by redesigning the English alphabet so that F and E look more different.

If we go with the first solution, I propose either:
Really Hot Cup of Eternity – RHCE
or
Citadel of Conflagaration – CoC

No, I’m not really upset about this, but the thought struck me as funny how often people hang out in fireheart while 4 of us are sitting in Crucible. You can at least mousover people’s party icons to see where they are…

Calx’s Hideout, and Conundrum Cubed possibly?

Look for places that have no POIs, hearts or Waypoints in them. Conundrum Cubed is a JP, but it’s tucked away pretty decently.

Edit: Also, if you did a lot of map completion early on, you may have missed some areas when they added in the Guild Puzzles, like Proxemics Lab.

There’s also Aurora’s Remains while you’re there too.

It’s unfortunate that you feel that way. I believe that elementalist has the potential to deal tremendous amounts of damage. If you go digging into the elementalist forums I’m sure you’ll find posts with builds that deal excellent damage. Survivability… that rests upon your ability to time skills and dodges.

zerotwo.4731:

The guy also tried to melee Bloomhunger…….. We picked him up after we killed it.

o_O; Do people not melee Bloomhunger? I find him a bit easier to fight in melee range.

Both are nice to have, but I’ve found that you can run into difficulties on the rare occasions that you have 3+ mesmers. You don’t run into that problem with guardian. Just… Practice being a really good guardian. o_o;

Broadicea.8294:

Sticking your head in the sand and yelling at anyone who tries to display the reality is a good way to ensure that they never get made any better.

It’s also a good way to get a mouthful of sand.

“we’ll overhaul our explorable dungeons to make them more exciting, update our reward systems, add new fractals, create new activities, and turn our world’s giant bosses into even more epic encounters.”

I look forward to what you choose to produce in regards to these points.
I’m especially curious about the new fractals. The 8(9) that we have now are all well and fun, but a new one or two or three sound nice.

What kind of behavior would you choose to say, “Well, this PUG had their chance, it’s kick time.”?

I was recently doing AR with my guildies, but we had 1 spot we needed filled, so we grabbed a PUG. He D/Cs before the end boss, so we eventually decide to pick up another PUG rather than four person the run. Picked up a guardian meaning that our group was Guard x3, warrior, elementalist.

We go in and myself, our other guardian and our warrior are meleeing Mai, trying to get the electric circles to pop up under us so we can pull the stacks off of her.

The PUG guardian is using his scepter and staying at range. Which is okay, just slightly annoying when the electric circles pop up under him and it becomes more difficult to get Mai to end up in one.

After the first 25%, when Mai jumps back down, the PUG says in chat, “lol why are you guys dpsing her?”
To which I reply, “We’re trying to get the electric fields on her, what are you doing?”
He says, “Better than you”

Now, this guy just jumps in at the last boss, is in a guild run, and the first thing he says is basically an insult. My first thought is to kick this guy then and there, but then I always hated the idea of just kicking a person and I try to avoid it. I know we could have 4 personed this fight. In the end we chose not to kick this PUG, but I know I put him on my block list. Would you guys have given him the boot? Do you feel it would have been justifiable?

On a side note, is meleeing Mai Trin really that odd?

It sounds like you had a bad time with this dungeon. While I can sympathize with that, I think that they’re showing improvement on their dungeon design and AR is a step in the right direction. Fight mechanics that tweak the normal rules of battle keep things intriguing.

If you didn’t enjoy these mechanics, what kind of mechanics do you like?

All I can think of right now is Malchor shouting, “DWAYNAAAAA~!”

Mirta.5029:

Really the only way to judge a person is to start the run with him and then adding the good pug people to your friends list for further runs.

Quoted for truth.

Did CoE and this elementalist was wiping left and right. One of the other members was like, “Um, I guess you’ve never done CoE before…”
To which the ele retorted, “I’ve got the Dungeon Master title equipped”

You can block the projectile before it explodes and knocks back everything.

You’ll shoot your eye out!

Please note that if you put anything soulbound by that character into your bank and then delete said character, you may have a devil of a time getting that piece of equipment out again.

Thank you for the video, it is very informative!

Interesting and almost as valuable advice as:

The best way to level…

Is to earn exp.

Getting the bombs up isn’t the problem. >.>

I’m just curious about how many times you have to do it. At lvl 30 it really feels like a bottomless chasm you’re just tossing those into.

tigirius.9014:

Love it when people are in denial. Gear locking is locking content from people who don’t have a certain score on gear or a certain tier of gear to see content.

I would agree. However, ArenaNet’s only hard coded form of “gear locking” would be fractals because of agony. You can do any other content. If someone doesn’t want to let you run it because your gear isn’t good enough, I think that’s a socially conditioned restriction and not “gear locking”.

tigirius.9014:

And don’t tell us the myth that all guilds are active and will accept anyone trying to do these things without the gear they need because the longer it takes for new players to get into the game the fewer people run the old content, it’s a known fact this happens in every mmo.

Agree and disagree. I agree that not all guilds are active, and that not all guilds are willing to accept people regardless of the quality of their gear. You as a player must take responsibility in finding a like-minded guild who you can run dungeons/fractals with.

I disagree that people won’t run older content. If you have a good guild, I don’t see why they wouldn’t be more than happy to help you out. Also, gw2lfg is a great way to run any of the dungeons, “old” or not.

tigirius.9014:

And then there’s the huge delay in Laurel grinding per character because there’s 1 daily per account.

I usually avoid arguing about this, but my stance is that I honestly don’t see a problem with this. So long as you keep decently active in the game, Laurels come to you. Seriously, are you desperate for laurels…?

tigirius.9014:

Dungeons can’t progress without agony resist

Patently false, but I’ll pretend you are talking about FotM. You can do FotM up to lvl 10 without agony. There are people that have gone to 30 without Agony, though you’ll die during Jade Maw.

tigirius.9014:

and we all know that people already ask for specifc classes what makes you people think they don’t ask for maxed gear as well? I don’t do dungeons and even I know that.

And there are people that don’t. Choose to avoid the people who don’t want your class, and work with people who are okay with playing with you. You’ll be happier for it.

However, I’m also of the belief that you should always strive to improve yourself. So if you feel you don’t have optimal gear, work for it.

Ayrilana.1396:

Every group I have been in treat it as a suicide run. We dash in with speed and stealth buff and just keep dropping bombs at door. When we wipe we just do it again.

Dulfy has a strategy for it but I have yet to be in a group that does it.

Thanks, I’ve just hit lvl 30. I’ll check out Dulfy’s site for further info. I’m curious what level and about how many times do you guys hurl your bodies at the door?

Interesting. I think some people enjoy leveling and gearing up alts. For some it wouldn’t be a grind at all.

I would say this. If you get your main to a decent level in FotM, chances are you’ve picked up enough pristine relics to equip at least one other alt with 2 rings. The longer you do FotM, the more surplus you’ll have of the materials such as regular fractal relics and pristines. It shouldn’t be too much of a hardship to equip an alt with the fotm gear needed to get it into the 20’s/30’s.

Interesting, Outlaw = Ascalon? Would Inquest = golems for uncategorized?

As I’ve been working my way up through the levels in FotM, I’ve noticed that on the dredge bomb room there’s many a time when we’ll go to plant the bombs, run back and find that none of the bombs have exploded.

I have observed the excavators picking up the bombs. I believe that they can only hold one bomb at a time. At level 30, 40 and 48, about how many runs with bombs would you guesstimate you’d have to do before all the excavators “fill up” with bombs?

Also, is there a decent way of getting the bombs to explode without having the dredge pick up the bombs? We tried having 2 guardians do sanctuary to try to bounce the dredge away, but they seem to be able to pick up the bombs regardless.

Thanks for your time everyone!

I applaud your efforts. I believe that if you believe in something, keep standing up for it.

I long ago used to be a forum posting frequenter.

The mood rarely strikes me now to debate with people. I just play online with my guild and enjoy myself.

If I was to ever make a macro, I’d probably have one that auto left clicks while I hold down the key. That way it would make opening karma jugs and droplets easier when I pop all the karma boosts.

Hmmm, possibly. I think I’m a bit more on the casual side of the spectrum, but fairly in the middle.

I think it’s important to know what satisfies your own personality. Some people play for the challenge, even if (or for some people especially if) it’s annoying and frustrating. Some people play for fun. I enjoy doing whatever satisfies my mood at the time I log in.

I don’t do a lot of everything. I do a bit of WvW, I haven’t really done sPvP except for when I’m messing around with my guildies (I die a lot cause I’m most used to using my warrior… and well warrior+sPvP…).

I’m more focused on working on a Legendary, but I’m not sweating the time to get it. I maybe make 2-3 runs a night in CoE for Charged Cores/Lodestones, but I enjoy it. I don’t farm CoF. I did like 4 runs in a row and then politely bowed out because it bored me to tears.

I do enjoy helping people. Guildies take priority, but if someone asks for help, I’m glad to lend a hand.

So yeah, I can’t say the playstyle is too far off. o_o)-b

Kingdarkshadow.3175:

I got hacked again today (3rd time) I run malwarebytes and superantyspyware and they didn’t detected nothing… anyone can help me with this? I aleady went to security to allow only my ip address and mobile authenticator

the good thing was the hacker didn’t steal nothing cause I don’t have great stuff

Find a different computer that you know is safe. Overhaul all your passwords. Look into strong passphrases. http://xkcd.com/936/

On your current computer (the one you’re scanning like crazy):

Look into rootkit scanners. Hitman Pro, Emisoft Emergency Kit, Malwarebytes Anti-Rootkit. Run these in Safe Mode. If you’ve picked up something that a regular anti-virus isn’t catching, then chances are it’s a rootkit. Anyways, since the info’s pretty general, this is only a suggestion and may or may not be the answer to your problem. You’ll only know when you try it

It’s the Order of Whispers chest piece.

You can get it from the Chantry of Secrets.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Armor_Requisitioner_Betje

If you’re willing to put some money down for Transmutation Crystals, you can use an alt (if you didn’t choose order of whispers for your ranger) to get the armor and move it to your Ranger.

Check out some online galleries to see if anything piques your interest.

http://gw2armorgallery.com/norn-medium.htm

I highly recommend mixing and matching armor sets. Once you’ve got a few pieces you think would be interesting, just /whisper the chat codes to yourself and preview it on your model.

(Chat links can usually be found on gw2db.com)

marnick.4305:

- if USA gets nuked, ftp server is unavailable but I still have my box at home,
- if home burns down, I still have FTP server,
- in case of zombie invasion, I flee with my car which has at least one key in the trunk,
- in case of war, at least one key is in the country I’ll be at the time.

o_o;

Well, in the event of US getting nuked, or Zombie invasion, it’s good to know you’ve got your bases covered and you can still get a few dungeon runs in on GW2.

:D

Problem is that during busytime it’ll be harder to get to a hologram to fight them. There will be more ppl going out in small groups to hunt them, I suspect.

Dragon Ball is fun, ShiningSquirrel. I’m sure once they patch it so that ppl can’t use food or any other open world item from inventory that it’ll be a blast to play.

I suspect that the amount of events we’ll come across (if the achievements page has anything to say about it) is not done yet. I would venture a guess that we might have the opportunity to get some chests or maybe even a jorbreaker from these events. But that’s just a guess. I got about 130 from an hours worth of running around, but I suspect that number will probably go down. It would be cool if the number of holograms spawned was like a dynamic event, where if more ppl are near when they’re spawned, the quantity of mobs increased.

Is that what was happening? I was sure I wakittenting this person, and their health just didn’t go down. I do hope that gets fixed.

chenria.2809:

I haven’t gotten any ingame mail yet But I hope I’ll get one, too. I bought gems in the past and would love to have some new pets as well <3

We just need to be patient. I’m sure they’re mailing it out to everyone who qualifies. They’re probably just being suppressed due to excessive messaging.

CMF.5461:

I have tried swinging 2 weapons at the same time in real life. See eskrima/arnis:

http://youtu.be/Mf8jWtCdFWI?t=50s

Or even fencing with a dagger off hand or a main gauche is a familiar European style of dual wielding combat.

Also there is the Japanese style of combat with 2 weapons: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miyamoto_Musakitten

hank you CMF, I was about to make this exact same post!

As a practitioner of martial arts for 14 years, I’ll say that it makes way more sense to alternate weapon strikes because the natural swinging of your body will carry one weapon into the other.

For heavier weapons, such as mace, it may not look as quick as certain dual swords, but there are dual weapon sets for things like Double Melon Hammers.

I also played FFXI – I have to say, I really enjoyed “raids” in that game. Dynamis was always a big one that I had a fun time doing. There were good strategies, but they were challenging to pull off, and as a Timed instance, you always felt under the gun to get to the next Time Extension mob.

Tbh, I wouldn’t mind if they implemented an instanced raid here. I think it’d be pretty cool to have an influence purchasable guild mission. Maybe make it like an instance of the WvW maps where you have to wrest control of certain camps, keeps or citadels. Have multiple bosses in each instance, but give you only time enough to be able to fight your way to one of them unless you strategically split up your raid. Iono, just off the cuff thinking, haha.

Not a ton of cleave/AoE going on, maybe? If things are going down a second or two slower, each wave gets a bit more overwhelming. Also, I notice as you get to like 80% there’s that big push of mobs that pops up.

Streps.9784:

DigitalKirin.9714:

What’s your crit chance sitting at right now? Given your descriptions, I can only guess it’s around 40%. Swapping 200 precision to 200 vit will drop your crit by 9.5%. While that might seem like a chunk, it’s really not the end of the world.

The nasty part is my best Prec comes from my magi gear that also gives me hp + healing if i drop my Bez gear my crit damage falls right out trust me i tried i actually loose 15-20% crit damage making me hit like a wet noodle with bad tank

Converting from Berserker to Valkyrie leaves your power and crit damage intact and swaps precision for vitality. Since 21 precision = 1% crit chance, 200 precision loss would be a ~9.5% crit chance reduction. Then again, it’s 4 am, so my math might be off. Anyone care to check me?

How much +healing power are you actually getting out of your Magi gear?

What’s your crit chance sitting at right now? Given your descriptions, I can only guess it’s around 40%. Swapping 200 precision to 200 vit will drop your crit by 9.5%. While that might seem like a chunk, it’s really not the end of the world.

Streps.9784:

all i want is 2k hp more so i can deal with conditions will all of my kitten is one cool down and still be able to hit someone for more then 200 damage

2k HP = 200 more vitality, btw.

Convert some zerker to valkyrie.

Streps.9784:

ok so now your saying i should get awesome if i drop my staff for a sword

Nope, I didn’t say that. I addressed your concerns. Guardian has many tools akittens disposal. A good guardian knows when to equip them. May I suggest that in addition to carrying a gswd and staff that you have a sword, shield, focus, scepter.

Can you equip them all at the same time? Of course not. Know when you need one and when you need another.

Streps.9784:

i get flashing blade now i have 1 tele every w/e its cool down

Ten seconds. And you get the nice bonus of Sword having really good single target DPS. Plus, if you have an offhand focus, you also can pop the shield on it.

Streps.9784:

since i have a bonus to 2 handed wep cool downs

This trait really could go either way, imo. I personally don’t use it (I use Empowering Might, but that’s just me). I can understand wanting to use it if you’re going Gswd/Staff. If you’re worried about leaping, what’s better, though? An 8 second leap, or a 10 second leap and a 10 second teleport?

Retreat Ok yeah that’s along swiftness with a nice huge cool down to match it even with the shout trait
Save your self i already use this if i use that in a group fight i get a pile of conditions and i bleed to death ok in 1v1 its probably the best utility skill i have ever had

List of swiftness boosts for cutting travel time. I also recommend Pure of Voice since you’re a shout build. Save Yourselves→ Retreat to scrub any pesky condition you might have on you.

Streps.9784:

Judge’s intervention Ok now i can use that but i have to drop a shout and since i have the shout cool down i guess i could swap it out for my 3ed utility now i no longer have retreat but a target tele that has a nice long cool down that seems like a good plan to me

Any good guardian will know when to use the proper tool at the proper time. Equip it before combat if you feel like you’ve been lagging behind. Everyone faces opportunity costs. How you learn to deal with it is what takes you from a normal player into an excellent player.

Streps.9784:

awesome plan now go look at how a warr moves around and see if you can keep up with all of his dash and leap skills or even a ele or even a thief

Again, you’re really trying to make the guardian something it’s not by asking for more tools to catch up in mobility with certain classes such as Ele and Thf. (who have to trade off certain things to gain that mobility, btw)

I seem to recall you wanting your Guardian to heal your allies and be able to chase off an enemy who might try to stomp an ally, not chase down some of the most mobile classes in wvw. If you want to do that, you’re going to need to sacrifice something for it. You can’t be good at everything all the time. The nice thing about Guardian is that you’ve got the option to be good as lots of things at different times with Minimal Gear/Utility swaps.

But that’s what the OP is trying to make… a damage guardian. And he’s asking for more HP to make it more viable.

The original question of the post is, “Is the amount of HP Guardians have fair?”

I believe it’s fair as it stands. My follow up posts were merely to attempt to help him round out his build to address the weakness he sees in it.

MidnightCorutin, since you suggest that Damage focused guardians are inherently worse than Tank/Healer focused guardian, then wouldn’t you agree that Guardian HP is therefore in a good place? Is it not fair?

Streps.9784:

this is not a thread about my spelling and grammar this is about the bad hp pool a guard has

It’s a friendly suggestion to help you express your ideas more effectively.

Streps.9784:

the rest is magi and rings and stuff

I would recommend leaving Magi gear behind. If you need vit, get Valkyrie. Or Soldier’s.

Streps.9784:

the traits are fine

You seem upset about conditions. This would suggest a weakness in your traits that you seem unsatisfied with.

Streps.9784:

since we have no leap/dash skills

Leap of Faith
Flashing Blade
Judge’s Intervention (And Merciful Intervention)

And just for good measure, We’ve got Swiftness on things like
Symbol of Swiftness
Retreat
Save Yourselves

Streps.9784:

people post all the traits u need for mass condition removal but in doing that u become a bunker and u have 0 damage and still a kittenty hp pool

Calm down. Breathe a second. Use some punctuation, friend.

30 points into Honor won’t kill your damage that badly. As I asked before, what’s your current Guardian setup?

How about doing Full zerk + ruby orbs for gear, or adding in knights or ruby where you feel like you might be lacking in defensive stats.

Then try 0/30/10/30/0 with Sword/Focus? For your Honor Traits, I’d go with Superior Aria, Empowering MIght, Pure of Voice.

Grab 3 shouts (Save Yourselves, Hold the Line, Retreat/Stand your Ground).

Renewed focus and your choice on Heal.

That’s not particularly bunkerish, don’t you think?

Streps.9784:

DigitalKirin.9714:

Streps.9784:

i burn off conditions faster then my guard so to me it sounds like ur doing something wrong

I burn off conditions equally as fast on my warrior as I do my guardian. They are both fully capable of doing so equally as fast. Guardian can potentially wipe conditions faster, I do believe, but it isn’t as optimal, in my humble opinion.

yes but to get the same condition burn i have to drop ALOT of damage making of no use in small gang fights i just become a slow low hp blob of armor trying to keep my friends alive

What’s your current build, and what build do you think of when you talk about a “slow low hp blob”?

I am curious if maybe we can help you create a better build.

Edit: I noticed that you said you geared your warrior dd but specced survivability. Is there something wrong with doing so with your Guardian?

Streps.9784:

i burn off conditions faster then my guard so to me it sounds like ur doing something wrong

I burn off conditions equally as fast on my warrior as I do my guardian. They are both fully capable of doing so equally as fast. Guardian can potentially wipe conditions faster, I do believe, but it isn’t as optimal, in my humble opinion.

Hmmm. Might need to compare what gear they have to see how much vit you’re getting from gear. Then also check which trait lines you’ve gone down. Did you do 30 in water? Did you do 30 in honor?

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Health#Base_Health_by_Profession

Wiki suggests that they have the same base.

The low hp pool is fair. Guardians have a tremendous amount of damage mitigation. A good guardian will know how and when to use Blind, Aegis and Protection to the best of their abilities.

If you feel you’re seriously lacking in condition removal, may I suggest looking at Pure of Voice?