Guild Wars 2

jportell.2197:

Doomdesire.9365:

jportell.2197:

Doomdesire.9365:

Why would you spam stealth to get 10 stacks of might for a backstab? In that time you could just backstab twice for more overall damage and less initiative, lmfao.

ITs the might stacking ability OOC that makes it nice… It’s hard for other classes to do. (Ele/mes/etc) You can stack it up before you get to the first fight easy. And then do your two backstabs for more damage then well just 2 backstabs :P And it can stay up for awhile.

Stacking it out of combat can be tedious for most builds minus D/P, unless you want to waste a shadow refuge, of course. Either way having to CnD 5 times + having to wait 4s each time for 10 stacks of might(you can’t even reach 10 stacks of might with CnD chaining, so I don’t know where OP got his information from) and then catching up to the enemy is rather tedious. By the time I usually reach the enemy I have 2 stacks of might left if I’m lucky. It simply doesn’t work imo, and I don’t know why OP said that might stacking through CnD chaining is in any way OP. It’s very inefficient and simply cannot apply effectively in real world combat.

As for D/P, I don’t understand why someone would waste that much initiative for 10 stacks of might, especially since D/P itself takes up more initiative than CnD.

When you stack might runes once again you can have full initiative plus 20 stacks of might by the time you get into combat. D/P is a very ini heavy build to begin with so I imagine anyone running it has some might regen through sigils/traits.

The only might rune I can see are the ones that give 20% might duration, and when stacked with similar runes, 40%. That still doesn’t account for 20 stacks of might. Not nearly, and especially considering the time it takes you to reach your enemy after spamming stealth through D/P, most likely from a distance.

Even then, I would much rather have the critical damage runes, which should deal more dps than the 5-6 extra stacks of might given through might stacking for a few seconds.

Einlanzer.1627:

Doomdesire.9365:

The number 2 pistol skill is a joke. #3 is good in terms of damage and need no buff. #1 is great as is and is vital for P/D condition thieves.

They should outright remove the vulnerability from it and add boon stealing. Every #2 pistol shot steals a boon. Increase initiative cost to 4

No, try reading the above post again.

I’m sorry, I didn’t realize this was a dictatorship and we weren’t allowed to present our own opinion, your majesty.

Condition builds in general, not just thieves, are great because it allows for great sustained DPS through the use of conditions, while allowing you to be tanky. I would always run a condition build over a DPS build. If the thief you’re facing is pure glass, 5 stacks of bleed for 9s each ticking at 120 is enough to take out alot of his HP.

Basically what the others have said for the runes/sigils

But for weapons, use giver’s weapons. 10% bleed duration as a stat for it, and almost nobody knows about it.

If you have ten people place a stealth trap. Problem solved

BTW, being on a top ranked server says nothing about skill.

jportell.2197:

Doomdesire.9365:

Why would you spam stealth to get 10 stacks of might for a backstab? In that time you could just backstab twice for more overall damage and less initiative, lmfao.

ITs the might stacking ability OOC that makes it nice… It’s hard for other classes to do. (Ele/mes/etc) You can stack it up before you get to the first fight easy. And then do your two backstabs for more damage then well just 2 backstabs :P And it can stay up for awhile.

Stacking it out of combat can be tedious for most builds minus D/P, unless you want to waste a shadow refuge, of course. Either way having to CnD 5 times + having to wait 4s each time for 10 stacks of might(you can’t even reach 10 stacks of might with CnD chaining, so I don’t know where OP got his information from) and then catching up to the enemy is rather tedious. By the time I usually reach the enemy I have 2 stacks of might left if I’m lucky. It simply doesn’t work imo, and I don’t know why OP said that might stacking through CnD chaining is in any way OP. It’s very inefficient and simply cannot apply effectively in real world combat.

As for D/P, I don’t understand why someone would waste that much initiative for 10 stacks of might, especially since D/P itself takes up more initiative than CnD.

SonOfKrypton.4357:

The Obsidian Sanctum has always encouraged griefers…

I think that was the point when it was designed around log, spike, fire, arrow, boulder, and animal traps. If it wasn’t designed to ‘trap’ people and kill them, why are those traps there?

Additionally, it isn’t difficult to click the ‘Eternal Battlegrounds’ dropdown and go back to EB and ask for help.

Check out this little gem

BWHAHAHA that’s epic. Next up, Jumping Puzzle prisons.

SoR ticks so high during NA primetime because the enemy gave up. There is no resistance on many of the BLs anymore. I haven’t even seen certain BG/JQ guilds at all lately. Looks like a case of fairweather syndrome. That and when we wake up we actually have stuff, unlike before where SoR would be ticking near 0 before NA woke up.

SoR NA didn’t change. Events are still held with same numbers of guilds. I know FEAR has mandatory WvW attendence, TW is fielding the same, so is Choo and Tsym has done tons of recruiting lately.

Props to JQ for showing up during SEA time. You guys were rockin’ it.

Why would you spam stealth to get 10 stacks of might for a backstab? In that time you could just backstab twice for more overall damage and less initiative, lmfao.

The number 2 pistol skill is a joke. #3 is good in terms of damage and need no buff. #1 is great as is and is vital for P/D condition thieves.

They should outright remove the vulnerability from it and add boon stealing. Every #2 pistol shot steals a boon. Increase initiative cost to 4

Kids are too spoiled nowadays. Back in my days, we had real score updates, with real people, not just dull websites.

Cannot use Boons for 30s
Gain no adrenaline for 30s
Cannot swap atunements for 30s
Cannot create clones for 30s
Cannot use turrets for 30s
Cannot use pet for 30s
Cannot enter any external armor for 30s(plague form, ect)

This is the WvW Anet wants. WvW trap meta where traps kill classes and karma buys wins.

Mostly because X/D thieves can be countered by dodging CnD. D/P is the only stealth heavy build where the thief’s main stealth mechanic cannot be countered, and is really the only class mechanic(D/P, not stealth itself) in the game that cannot be countered. Whether I agree with that claim, I have to say I don’t disagree with D/P being too powerful, but I don’t think it’s gamebreaking.

Personally, I say always vitality if you had to choose, simply because conditions ignore toughness, and certain bleed/burning classes can absolutely destroy toughness stacking warriors. If it were up to me, however, I’d probably just use some PTV + zerker accessories/zerker traits. Mix and match is awesome.

Hurtappl.6405:

they already do that. whats your point? thief could stealth and dodge roll out of corner and not get hit! what was thief doing in corner anyway?

Thief is melee, must go near corner. Thief not melee, instantly gets wrecked by warrior rifle.

Glass warrior w/ GS & rifle

Stand in corner

spam 1 while thief in range, spam rifle when out of range

win

ATM it’s extremely laggy for practically everyone who enters it. My guild alone experienced massive disconnects every few minutes. This problem has been reported from Jade Quarry, Sanctum of Rall, and Blackgate. The other borderlands and Eternal Battlegrounds is fine, but this is really ruining the gameplay. Please fix whatever server is handling this borderland.

This is not a client side problem. This is a server sided problem that only Anet can fix

I’ve gotten up to 10K using heartseeker in sPvP, but only through the use of a signet build (activating signet gives you 5 stacks of might. I activate my healing signet, followed by my 3 utility signets) and the player must be <25% HP to deal that much damage. Either way it usually screws me over because I used my heal and all utilies + basilik venom elite.

Doomdesire.9365:

Liquid.9672:

Masamoon.3864:

I’m sure our 20 man group is as large as your 40.

This was taken at about 2:30am PST, on a Sunday night (Monday morning NA), shortly after BG had the outmanned buff on EBG.

20 man group. Yeah.

I counted ~40 SoR and ~30 green dots. This doesn’t include the commander on your map in the south who is likely to bring more.

Also, out of everyone, the last people I expect to complain about numbers and “PvD” is Blackgate, considering the massive point ticks you guys have gotten through the use of PvD the past weeks.

Liquid.9672:

Masamoon.3864:

I’m sure our 20 man group is as large as your 40.

This was taken at about 2:30am PST, on a Sunday night (Monday morning NA), shortly after BG had the outmanned buff on EBG.

20 man group. Yeah.

I counted ~40 SoR and ~30 green dots. This doesn’t include the commander on your map in the south who is likely to bring more.

Did you ever come across anyone that was bewildered as to why you were seemingly talking to yourself? :P

It’s pretty annoying when you’re trying to take a camp and there’s one guy there spamming stealth traps…

Was like that since reset. All three sides are DCing at all times. Not just one. It’s the server.

Your post doesn’t even explain anything. It just says map cap is too high and promotes mentalities?

Sharpoon.8197:

Doomdesire.9365:

Why are people acting as if SoR’s NA is “stacked” now? It’s always been like that. Nobody complained about it when BG was winning, nor JQ. It’s more like JQ/BG seems to be getting demoralized + we don’t lose everything overnight. Choo, FEAR, TW have been here from the start. Tysm joined quite a while ago in T1. These complaints are literally coming out of nowhere….

TW was in SoR from day 1?

Since rank 17. It’s not technically the start, but it was the beginning of SoR’s rise to T1. Prior to that, SoR was not a competitive WvW server. I still remember playing against them back in the old days of Sorrow’s Furnace (against SoR and FA).

Already hard enough as it is to 1v3. But when you finally down someone they get revived before you could finish….

Stars.8576:

2) Dragonbrand is climbing the ranks because of good players. You can have a full server and still lose a WvW match. Quality over Quanitity.

..You aren’t…serious, are you? The WvW score is coverage and coverage only. You can be as skilled as you want but as soon as you log off you lose everything. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that DB started rising as soon as they got transfers.

kingcragus.6810:

TallDan.6350:

LetoII.3782:

The complainers.
Definately

^This

The biggest problem with WvW is all the constant moaning.

^ This

The biggest problem with WvW is all the constant moaning.

I agree 100%

Skill lag could use some tweaking though….

Why are people acting as if SoR’s NA is “stacked” now? It’s always been like that. Nobody complained about it when BG was winning, nor JQ. It’s more like JQ/BG seems to be getting demoralized + we don’t lose everything overnight. Choo, FEAR, TW have been here from the start. Tysm joined quite a while ago in T1. These complaints are literally coming out of nowhere….

sostronk.8167:

Standard practice among SOR players and guilds. Its completely legit is far as they are concerned. Note I said as far as "they"are concerned. I personally consider it cheating.

I heard all of JQ uses speed hacks because I saw a JQ doing it tonight in EB.

Wow nice job JQ! Showin teh POWAH

If anyone would like to duel please whisper me

Jedbacca.6297:

Kytana.5079:

Cover Girl.2580:

Jedbacca is dead… may you rest in piece(s).

Since we had a community arranged marriage, does this mean I get all his stuff now? SF watch out!

I survived the crash

But jedbacca didn’t survive the crash so…

Cirus.5748:

I would like to congratulate Sanctum of Rall on their first tier 1 victory!

I remember back in October, after HoD collapsed, 2 super servers were brewing in the lower tiers. One was Sea of Sorrows, the other was Sanctum of Rall. They met in tier 3 for the first time, with both sides putting in amazing fights and the momentum of the match up constantly swinging with the other server trying to punch harder than the other. The best thing about this match up was not the scores, but the fights had on the field. A lot of people who were on SoS agree that SoR NA gave the best fights, were the most skilled and organized Americans of any server SoS ever faced. SoR were better than the servers in tier 1.

Sanctum of Rall has had to be consecutive runners up over a very long period of time. Yet their guilds have stayed loyal to the server, and stayed strong. Many of the guilds I saw all those months ago, are still on SoR today.

But it is not only the old guilds that have made SoR server, the new arrivals that have moved to SoR, have had the guts to join the underdog in order to balance the competition. These guilds must also be congratulated and have contributed just as much as anyone else on SoR!

Sanctum of Rall has a lot of skill and organization, WvW is based around coverage,. But SoR has not won tier 1 through coverage, they’ve won it through courage!

Congratulations to Sanctum of Rall!

You have my full respect for what you have achieved on the battlefield,

/salute and well done!

Enjoy the moment!

I’d just like to note that Roger “Oldroar” Rall’s birthday was two days ago. He would be proud. c:

Jahn.7019:

Just out of curiosity, would anyone’s server care to confirm how many guilds they are getting and what TZ?

We know JQ is getting PYRO (400 players, 15-20 Euro, 60-70 NA). We’ve heard they are also picking up another 40 man NA.
We’ve heard BG is picking up 2 Euro and 2 NA.

Anyone’s rep care to comment though? Give us all something to look forward to. Also, if we are transparent in our movements, maybe we can balance the tier by ourselves moving forward and not have a ridiculous overstacked server again.

Don’t know exactly what is happening with PYRO. I do know that they intended to transfer to SoR(full transfer 2 weeks from now) and already had many members here, but I do believe that they were told they may get stuck in queues, and it may be best for them to join JQ/BG unless they are fine with the queues. They also said they weren’t as active as they used to be.

i5-3450(k?)
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other stuff nobody cares about

KORGA THE MIGHTY KING OF ORRIAN GORRILLAS.

As seen in Arah P1.

Or crusader Hiroki. She’s pretty hot.

Rarity rise I see them pretty commonly. But I’d probably have to give the rarity reward to Mjolnir/Infinite Light. Only seen 2 infinite lights, and a mjolnir since the start of GW2. Almost made my own but I decided to toss 700G away(Thanks, forge!) like a total kitten

I heard jed went on a drinking binge and got so drunk that he multiplied into 15 jedbaccas and now they’re known as strike force.

P/D build is probably the most powerful. All it requires is patience. Reason is because it’s the ultimate kiting class. With a melee thief you always know where they are going to attack you from stealth…in melee range. So it’s easier to predict and reveal really hurts melee thieves. It’s not like that for P/D. You control the fights and the enemy through the use of kiting. Don’t be predictable or you will fail.

Bumbaducta.1608:

Voicer.8239:

sostronk.8167:

What kind of support did SOR give you?

The same support that BG did to the guilds that wanted to come over but couldnt withouth our community help.
Is not a big deal, and there’s nothing wrong with donate gold to help new friends.
I still wonder why they keep saying that “BG is buying guilds” and trying to give us a bad reputation for so long and then they go and do the same!
Im surprised no1 is trakittenalking SoR right now and….oh wait!
Call me crazy, but mb when OTHERS do it, is not so bad!!! Lets see..

BG donate gold to help ppl get in? How dare you??! Blackhole destroyer of guilds!! Shame on you!! Your reputation is the worst!

SoR donate gold to the same objective? Oh, this is a real community, tight and perfect!! You should all watch and learn!

The same logic applied on the “overtime” nonsense…think about it!

BG won? Overtime lifeless nerds!

SoR winning? Is just bc you’re so good! Again, we should all watch and learn!

Don’t know where you got the idea that SoR provided funds for another guild to join the server. I’m on SoR and I’ve never heard of it. Please keep yourself in the loop next time.

IRON originally showed up to SoR with ~30(I think) players. They asked for assistance getting the rest here. We don’t have a bank for this kind of stuff, so we helped farm during some of our free time and donated. It all added up and was donated to IRON. I think I donated about 3G myself gotten from a guild mission.

I fully expect BG’s midweek push to begin tomorrow. I also expect JQ to make a triumph return after a much needed break.

Pentalic.5409:

Anybody on Jade Quarry or Sanctum of Rall want to help test this out? I’m on Blackgate Eternal right now if anyone is interested…

Tomorrow!

If you are getting burned out, then stop playing, simple as that. I never understood the BG logic of pushing insanely hard to the point where they are burned out. Does that really help your server? Yeah you might get first place, so what? Long term is destroys the server. The point when WvW stops becoming fun and becoming a job is when you need to take it back a few steps, and relax. BG will still be there another day. Winning isn’t everything, and doesn’t always “help” the server.

I would much rather take it cool and lose while still having fun than making giant pushes that result in burnouts by everyone on our server. Just my opinion and feel free to disagree, but for the most part, we on SoR are happy. Never had a doubt of anyone or the PPT, regardless of loss or win.

I don’t know why anyone would ever allow these traps to be used in organized duels…

That’s like that one guy who dueled me and used GEARS back before they got removed xD

I know I just posted one but I couldn’t resist a 505 ppt

This is the highest we’ve ever ticked in T1

Stonemist finally gives way!

Still loooking for duels if anyone is interested

If anyone wants to 1v1 please whisper me in game

It was probably meant for veiling zergs. It works extremely well against that, BTW

Looking for 1v1s if anyone is interested!

Also, SoR will be green next week

IF

SoR can hold for the rest of the week. What will happen? Stay tuned to find out!