Guild Wars 2

If green team is winning, yes. WAI

The amount is due to the snowball effect, which is a different issue seperate from matchmaking.

Uh, just a hint

catapult is the least of your worry.

I put much better things behind doors that dont knock players that I am trying to kill away.

Yeah if you guys see [Ai] running around in your BL, were not there to attack you.

We danced with one of your guys last night, killed a ballista on a BP tower, and someone who jumped down. Had to kill one of your people because she was downed and didnt know how the heal ability in the down state worked (kept interrupting it to attack us seriously down state 4 is a channel). We did take one of your camps just before BP could take it so they could fight an invunerable guy for 5 minutes. BP had killed the NPC’s and was set to cap it, we wiped them out and capped it, then ran from an even larger BP zerg that went down there.

Then we camped your jumping puzzle from BP for about an hour before going to BP’s borderland and camping their jumping puzzle before capping redlake and making a meatgrinder out of it. (got like 80-100 kills in that fight, as well as destroying a siege golem, 3 trebs, and 2 catapults that you guys put down). A guild mate recorded the affair and should be editing it down.

We are Kaineng.

Best Queues
Best Server
Best Team

climhazzard.5897:

I recall there being random lightning strikes in the altar room.

That one, the quaggans cause it.

Storm does it, intended.

There is no truce.

The only thing :facepalm: is the claim that DR is ‘helping’ by holding pangloss and cutting supply to stonemist.

Please do not even pretend that is ‘helping’. Also, we would rather not have your help. You are free to choose where you attack, you are free to fight what you want to fight.

and then you go up and take pangloss and camp it with ballista.

weee. its a never ending fun cycle!

Although I do think we would of held stonemist if we coulda kept pangloss and ogrewatch. We simply ran out of supply to rebuild destroyed meatgrinders and to repair the gates.

With pangloss camped with ballista we mistakenly diverted too many forces to retake it, which cost us stonemist.

Fact is dr camping pangloss, hurt us bigtime.

Stop playing WvW to win points.

Start playing because its a video game. Points come as they may. They really dont mean anything to me.

No, it isnt unethical.

What ethical guideline are you breeching here? I dont see any. WvW is 24 hours. If you want to night cap on an american server go ahead and do so.

uh
it only costs like 8 silver to re-trait

How are you paying 2g?

You are seperate for ping reasons. Nothing else.

WvW is a 24 hour format, if you want to play on an american server you have to deal with cross atlantic pings. Thats all.

you can still click him and select report.

Yeah I dont want to lump all the DR guilds in one basket here, all I will say is that you guys are not all on the same page. Which is fine.

I have no problem with getting ganged up on from time to time. We are Kaineng.

And I also see the strategic sense to try to keep us in last place, instead of focusing on trying to get first place yourself. Thats totally fine.

We didnt consider DR our allies in that, considering we took the castle from them.

And then they backcapped us afterwords. So why would we consider you allies? Your server went into pangloss and camped it. I do not begrudge you for that but dont pretend we have any kind of alliance at this point when you guys are rightfully trying to sabatoge us. Its part of the game.

If you want us to treat you like allies, you need to act like allies. I did not see that last night at all, I saw DR playing to win and taking as much territory as possible. It is true from time to time we help each other, even last night after BP took stonemist back after several hours of us defending it, we intentionally attacked stonemist again with an attack we werent planning on succeeding with just to draw them away from your keep to the south. And it worked, they were forced to retreat and deal with our attack. The funny thing is we almost managed to take stonemist a second time, they got there just in time to stop us.

Its a 1v1v1 map. Someone is always going to fight someone, and its up to the last server to take the advantage of the situation.

If you were really our allies, you would not have taken and camped pangloss. But you are not, so its ok.

Not that I dont love you guys, I do. But you are not our allies.

I did some brainstorming on this issue.

Dolyak escort should be worth points if the dolyak route is deemed dangerous.

Essentially anet keeps track of how often a dolyak route is being attacked or killed by enemy players. If it is attacked on its route its +1 danger rating (dolyak takes damage from a player), killed +2. Every time a dolyak successfully completes its route, the danger rating goes down by 1. This allows anet to dynamically set the award for the route based on a probability the dolyak will get hit.

Dolyak escort rating for newly captured camps is 3, so the route will start out at danger rating 3.

Lets say you just took godsword and the dolyaks leave to resupply garrision. They would have a DR of 3, as you just took an enemy camp and thus it is probable that the route may be contested.

If it makes it to garrision uncontested, players are awarded at the level 3 spot, and the DR drops to 2.
If the enemy attacks it, but fails to kill it, players are awarded at the level 4 spot.
If it is attacked 3 times, but the enemy fails to kill it, players are awarded at the level 4 spot (as being attacked increase can only happen once per route)
If the dolyak is killed, defending players are awarded a fail at the level 5 spot. and the DR of the route is updated to 5.

Danger rating is a scale of 0-7. Any hits on the dolyak after it is at 7 doesnt increase the rating at all (that way a route cant rack up a very high DR because it was highly contested). Every successful uncontested delivery lowers the rating by 1. If you lose the supply camp and retake it, it is reset to 3.

Awards compared to previous system.
DR0: 0%
DR1: 20%
DR2: 40%
DR3: 60%
DR4: 80%
DR5-7: 100%

This way dolyaks that bots would ‘farm’ the ones that arnt ever attacked are not worth anything.

Obviously a system like this will take a while for arenanet to implement, but can be a solution to end the botting of the routes, and reward those willing to defend vunerable routes.

Arenanet can tweak the system so that consecutive uncontested deliveries lower the DR rating even faster, so by the second uncontested delivery it lowers the DR by an additional point.

50 is too much, thats more than stonemist is worth.

If anything swap outmanned and orb bonuses, and yes, make orbs worth some score.

A keep with an orb in it should have the same worth in points as stonemist (but not more).

Price isnt an issue for me, unless my server is being camped by megazergs then i see it as an issue. Its hard to get enough people together to begin wvw when a sizeable number wont get enough money back for repairs.

So I do see the issue.

Also keep in mind that WvWers dont want PvE’rs jumping into WvW just so they can save coin on repairs. IF WvW damage is to be repaired for free, or a lower rate than it should only repair damage obtained IN WvW.

However this can make the game more confusing because there will be two different types of damage.

So i’m on the fence about it. I see the reason for it, and I also see the problems meddling with it.

Well, find a group of friends to play with at the time you want to play.

Most people are sleeping on your server.

Anet cant do anything about peoples sleep cycles. There are people on your server that play at 3:30, i suggest you find them and, yanno group with them.

Hrm, i’m not feeling this personally, you playing in primetime for your server or off hours?

protip, build siege and fire back.

Whining on the forums about it is not pvp.

Wait what? Where did that come from. Doesnt sound like kaineng you are describing there. My group routinely fights larger groups, and can come out on top. Yes I do run when you send 15 against 2, who wouldnt.

Kaineng takes Stonemist, because we can. We have less numbers, but did it anyway.

And we held it against a relentless assault for a long time. They slowly chipped away at our kaineng meatgrinder, but not after we got at least 20 kills to a man.

NSP we gotcha garrision (when you had a full zerg on the map).

Kaineng is the best server, best queues, best team.

As far as i’m aware any dominating server that is currently controlling all the wvw area is seeing a lot of bots in the wvw zones.

The first orb attempt bugged.

What happened was I was carrying the orb, never dropped it and was running south to garrision. Somehow in the middle of this a random orb drops on the ground near me and a random picks it up and runs it back north. When he capped it the orb in my hand disappeared. Yes thats right, somehow there were 2 orb objects on the map at the same time.

So it was both a bug, and someone not listening in team and map chat.

Refuse to queue?

Kaineng players rarely get the option to queue. So I don’t know what you are talking about.

And no, we don’t have the numbers. And no, do not come and see for yourself we don’t want players like you.

Devona’s rest has managed a queue in every zone for WvW.
Kaineng has never managed a queue in every zone. If we get a queue, it is for Red Borderlands, or the ONE time we had a queue for EB (but RB didnt have a queue).

source: https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/6526/Devona_s_Rest.PNG 9/15/12 approx 2:50 A.M.
https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/6536/Kaineng.PNG look how we manage to get 133 into only one map at a time. Jeee.

You can destroy the siege equipment

Siege deployed in the invunerable zones are not flagged as invunerable. Although you may need a treb to kill a treb.

brandon.6735:

It’s funny b/c i have dirt on a player from Kaineng getting into a keep when they were attacking the gate.

OP..Just like i said every server has there bad blood. There no need to point fingers at the server for a few bad blood players.

Care to substantiate that?

Ive been in your keeps when you guys had the doors up because you forgot to check around after you repaired the door that we broke to get in.

As far as the op’s point, ive seen several NSP players do this so far, some even in prominate guilds. But this is arenanet’s job to fix. And the fix is simple on paper (i’m sure much harder code wise) but to keep the character logged in for 15-25 seconds if the player closes the client while in combat in WvW.

I dont know whats more funny.

The entitlement mentality of the original poster.
Or someone who plays pvp for the items, instead of the challenge of the match.

Mage, drop it. As you advance in the rankings you will get better and better rewards anyway, if you continue playing these ‘lost items’ will cease to matter completely as you will be flooded with duplicates.

Also this is not theft, theft would be an individual taking possession of something from someone without permission. In this case, arenanet owns your account, you just have access to it. As they cannot steal from themselves they cant be accused of theft.

Ran in to them farming in the water too.

We were puzzled that they didnt fight back at first.

Also without making it so that servers without queues get punished even more, last thing we need to be up against is 200+ man zergs at this point.

I support scoring based on population.

If you hold more with less people you should get more points, if you have the most people and cant hold things, then you deserve less points.

If you have a problem with that then you can switch servers to the one without a night crew to help even out the populations. Servers with even populations every point will be worth the same.

Basically handicap the scoring system dynamically based on overall fielded population (sum of all the zones) and night cap issues and servers that cannot field a sizable wvw force can compete.

Uh? What exactly is the problem here.

I’m also sure callout threads arent appropriate on the forums.

IKShadow, arenanet has no reason to add servers until the last servers they added start getting some serious wvw queue’s.

How is adding more servers that people arnt going to transfer to going to help at all?

Just too many people cry about their guild upgrades which you can get the important ones back in under a week, while having nonstop fun in wvw with no queues.

haha that battle for LV. My party only had 20 supply at the time and a random finished the ballista just in time to take out your catapults right before the wall fell. Wall had like 1% remaining.

Our server did a good job attempting to defend a keep from a zerg, but we have a lot of learning to do on seige placement for lord room defense. A megazerg will inevitably take a door down and we need to be better prepared for when it breaks.

Fubuki, failing to point out the guild responsible for actually taking out garrisions wall. Sure were not big, but we make a very big impact.

They need to swap the orb bonus with the outmanned bonus.

Outmanned should give 5-15% more health and 50-150 in all stats.
Orb bonus should give +MF +Karma +Exp%

Dear people that want your own cat/treb to damage your door

Please dont make any more suggestions like this. How do you stop a member of your own team that wants to grief and destroy your own teams doors then?

That suggestion is simply impossible without opening the doors to such issues. Please think of this before you make suggestions. Or would you like to deal with someone who transfers to your server, builds a catapult and attacks your own door endlessly, doing damage to it?

When you make a suggestion dont just write anything down, just because it might be ‘realistic’ realism has to be sacrificed for gameplay when appropriate, and you should check if your idea could hurt more than it help.

No, they have been published and edited on multiple dates.

You are just wrong.

We also feature nightly dancing on the beach.

Were still looking for guilds to transfer to kaineng.

We promise no queue times.

We managed to crack into EB today with a little coordination and pick up a keep.

Then I went and had a picnic at the beach in NSP territory for about an hour and a half till they zerged us with 30 people. (because we beat the 15 they sent before that with 6).

you cant take 12k backstabs with the protection boon unless you arnt wearing any armor. You will take about 9k

Its to the advantage of the second place server to attack the third place server if they have no hope of claiming first place.

It makes sure they stay in second place.

This is an unfortuneate reality is there is no reason to gang up on the leader if the leader is unstoppably ahead.

Click.5123:

So this was what happened when I fired up GW2 earlier today:

Logged in, queued up for WvW, waited over an hour and a half, logged off.

This is what your day could have been:

Logged in, queued for WvW, saw there was a queue, logged out to character select, transfered to Kaineng or Devona’s Rest, queued for WvW and got in instantly.

The solution is a bit simpler

make the wall/door have at least 10% health before it resumes being normal.

I’m sure mike has the numbers on what transfering is going on, Anet needs to do something by next patch about this, something that gives incentive for people to switch to disadvantaged servers.

This is just crazy.

I was thinking about it,

if you transfer to kaineng you earn 500% more influence, and guild build orders finish 400% faster for one week. That way most guilds will be able to rebuy all their upgrades very quickly. That would be an idea that would require the least amount of work.

I can see making influence global or having guild leaders ‘package up’ their guilds and moving them creating a lot of potential big time bugs if arenanet does that quickly.

Its about kitting up in a way that allows you to get in and out.

I tooled my warrior for high mobility and can get in and out of fights easily and fight in zergfights without dying for the most part. Also, never attack the center alone. There is plenty of room for some fast in and out on the flanks, unless you have an organized strategy of putting at least 20-30 all with melee weapons in the center of an enemy zerg dont just run in there.

It only seems slightly better micron because its the weekend.

Were losing numbers now. Saturday morning we were fighting and holding things well to 5 a.m. This morning? We lost everything by 1 am except one bugged fort that cant be taken. (bug error in your favor?).

The greedy whiny people on high queue servers refused to transfer to a server with no queues. So now were left with the result, a terrible wvw matchup.

Its actually wuvwuv
Which started on penny arcade and is spreading. Even ArenaNet picked it up. Look at the url to this thread:

forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/