Guild Wars 2

Let’s buff condis more! Mash all buttons on cool down. Who ever had the most cleanses wins! Oh wait… We already are doing that.

I’ve defended this game for a very long time, but I can’t snymore. Power creep has ruined this game for me. I really want to stay, but every time I play I become more bitter.

I can’t wait to see what people come up with for s/d. With reveal becoming so abundant, it’s time to evade spam people to death.

quaniesan.8497:

Drennon.7190:

quaniesan.8497:

Drennon.7190:

You act like guardian will be unplayable now.

That’s your own conjecture. Mesmer or elem got buffed as if they are currently unplayable. So why not guardians?

Mesmer rarely sees top tier play and Ele is falling out because of shoutbow doing a better job. Can you name a time period where guardian wasn’t meta? Please inform me.

memers always one of the top tier. Don’t make kitten up. Elems have been complained previously for their DD build or variants that were always unkillable. And you know what funny? even shoutbow got buffed.

Mesmer always top tier…? Yeah you don’t know what your talking about. No need to continue correcting you.

quaniesan.8497:

Drennon.7190:

You act like guardian will be unplayable now.

That’s your own conjecture. Mesmer or elem got buffed as if they are currently unplayable. So why not guardians?

Mesmer rarely sees top tier play and Ele is falling out because of shoutbow doing a better job. Can you name a time period where guardian wasn’t meta? Please inform me.

This is comic gold. Oh the sky is falling right into the guardian forums apparently. You act like guardian will be unplayable now.

Random Weird Guy.3528:

You’re asking in the wrong place, perma stealth doesn’t exist in PvP.

But every nerf thief thread mentions it! It must exist! _ _ ?!?!?!

Teef your so good that no one wanted you in their team.

Hi frands,

Teefveedarksicky here! Best QQ’er universe here to chime in and remind you that anything that kills me is overpowered! Also this game is so bad that I must continuously post on these forums to remind you how bad I think it is. Let me read you something, “Dead gaem, customer always right”

Woo hoo! Bye frands!

Teef, your life is pretty sad if you need to constantly post on the forums for a game that you don’t like/play.

Zero, check out the guardian forum. Multiple threads are crying that thief is too strong against guardian..

Translation: " I died against the glass that I counter!!"

Great video. Crimson, you should post a video! Since you can do better, right?

Silhouette.5631:

It works just fine if you have the meditation traits.

Where? In hotjoin? Shelter is not only a solid heal, but you can cancel cast it and use the block for save stomps. Because in cause you haven’t noticed, cancel casting I’ll give you the full block duration.

It’s trash. Intentionally not gimping myself with a subpar heal doesn’t make me a sheep. It means I have an IQ greater than 70.

HoT wish:
A new game for teef, Vee wee, and darksyze to cry about.

Please don’t use litany of wrath.. Ever

I could get down with this. Smite monk was fun to play.

Arken.3725:

Drennon.7190:

QQ that class has something I don’t! Wahh! Get over it

That’s not the point. The point is to have to sacrifice something strong for something else. With this change, there’s none of that. Wahh, get over having zero constructive input.

Guardian is fine. Maybe if you would try to stop staff #1ing things to death, you would agree?

QQ that class has something I don’t! Wahh! Get over it

Inb4 pvp bads crying thief OP

Darksyze, I have a seriously unhealthy obsession with hating every word you say. Can you pitch it towards my shrink?

@darksyze can you Vee Wee, Teef, And Lordrosicky all move on to a new game? All you kitten do is cry on these forums.

T-H-I-E-V-E-S
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Hi Hugh,

Can any comment on giving stronghold it’s own queue when the expansion hits? Lack of build templates combined with conquest, tdm, and stronghold on the same queue will just lead to more frustration.

Arken.3725:

Zeal/Valor/DH….mark me woooords

Because we saw how well your lack of virtue stability and virtue Condi cleanse worker out.

zinkz.7045:

Drennon.7190:

Zord.6130:

Video overall is decent, but the build is too op, anyone dueling with that build shouldn’t be too proud of winning 1v1s…

Just think! Soon we can run the same build + panic strike + executioner!

And roaming in WvW will become even more dead than it already is…

Roaming is dead? Have you seen tier 2?

Blast finisher, poison field, infiltrators arrow.

WiggsMagee.7130:

And you always have posts of people complaining about the people complaining

God… PvP Forums are a universal constant

Soo this would be classified as complaining about people who complain about people who complain?

The following is a picture of the typical gw2 PvPer

Flugsau.2358:

NA T2 Yak’s Bend . I live in Europe but the lag was rarely that consistent , getting through a portal (Tower/Keep) takes several seconds , roughly 3~4, sometimes longer , which causes alot of deaths when zergs chase me . every skill also takes several seconds to activate, making it hard to use them efficiently . The lag occurs every few minutes and stays for a few then dissapears almost completly , making it hard to even try and adjust the gameplay to the lag itself .-. drivers up to date , bandwidth all unused . would be glad if this gets resolved anytime soon so WvW is less frustrating again .

NA playing on Yaksbend and experiencing the same issue. I’m having ~2 to ~3 second skill lag. Ping is around 90 and my FPS is about 45

Hello!
As many WvW players are aware, there are many WvW titles that are (realistically) unachievable. With a new expansion over the horizon, a new WvW map, and a potential influx of new players, I feel that this would be a great time to really get in Anet’s ear about this situation.

This isn’t a big change, as it should only require the programs the change the existing values.

Many players love to collect titles. It’s slowly become a staple of most MMOs on the market. If a new player, coming to Guild Wars, views the impossible titles, what image do you think that will give them?

Let’s take my favorite one and see how ridiculous it is. YakSlapper!

Yakslapper requires that a player kill 1,000,000 yaks! Let’s do some quick math. If I killed 1 Yak every 5 minutes, that would take me 9.5 YEARS of never logging off in order to obtain that achievement!!!

I assume that values like 1,000,000 were place holders, but how does that value still exist in a game that is almost 3 years old?

Any way, please spread awareness! The Devs seem to be more active on this forum these days. Let’s try for at least a reply!

Aeolus.3615:

Drennon.7190:

Aeolus.3615:

Drennon.7190:

@booms

I will agree with that. But I’m still sticking to my original point, guardian counters thief. In a 1v1 situation, if the guardian loses to the thief, they were outplayed.

Guard is only to strong against a thief that goes afk, mobility here is what will define the victor, and the p/d is the king of it, it migh strugle against guardian CC but if thief knows what he/she is doing will be just a matter of time, i could say if a p/d thief looses to a guard it is becouse he got outplayed.
Now for guardian that are non meditation they are far easy wins.

Show me one p/d thief that has success at a competitive level. Can’t do it?

define competitive level… they can do it on wvw, if ur talking the pvp tournaments i stopped following it at quite some time.
But like i said, the guard build a thief needs to be carefull is the medi guard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wNXuS-gc14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDwUDJ4FmnA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MyMxCPEuIM

Decided to watch you videos. You talk about “p/d” thief, yet only ONE of those videos was p/d thief. One video was a terrible guardian, who was keyboard turning, fighting Caed. Caed has been competitive since the launch of this game. This video proved nothing. Another video’s opener showed a D/P thief fighting a guardian running signet of restoration… do i even need to go into detail about why this is bad? Lastly was a p/d thief running dire gear. Dire gear is the issue here, not class balance.

Any way, I’m done posting in this thread. Ya’ll would rather live with your delusion that thief counters guardian. Instead of striving to be better and to learn, you would rather just shout OP.

@aeolus SPvP. WvW roaming is a terrible way to look at balance. I can one shot people on guardian/thief/ranger etc. This is do to the ridiculous stats that are achievable with food, guard stacks, sigils, runes that are unavailable to PvP. There is a reason that Dire/perplexity doesn’t exist in pvp. Gear/buff imbalance is what makes things like p/d successful in WvW. Not a class issue. With guard buffs, food, bloodlust, I have had 12k whirling wraths… Yet does anyone ever call whirling wrath OP? No.

Aeolus.3615:

Drennon.7190:

@booms

I will agree with that. But I’m still sticking to my original point, guardian counters thief. In a 1v1 situation, if the guardian loses to the thief, they were outplayed.

Guard is only to strong against a thief that goes afk, mobility here is what will define the victor, and the p/d is the king of it, it migh strugle against guardian CC but if thief knows what he/she is doing will be just a matter of time, i could say if a p/d thief looses to a guard it is becouse he got outplayed.
Now for guardian that are non meditation they are far easy wins.

Show me one p/d thief that has success at a competitive level. Can’t do it?

Zord.6130:

Video overall is decent, but the build is too op, anyone dueling with that build shouldn’t be too proud of winning 1v1s…

Just think! Soon we can run the same build + panic strike + executioner!

I can see where you’re coming from there. I made the assumption that we were talking two experienced players, on two different zerker classes, that understand how to properly counter the opposing class.

Svarty.8019:

Drennon.7190:

Ragnarox.9601:

Thieves win vs every class easy if you know to play it. (~70% winrate )
Guardians often die if they miss they burst or waste all of their CD’s.

Stahp with the arbitrary statistics. Guardian is the most forgiving zerker class.

What do you mean by most? >50%?

Irony!

How can you even add a percentage to that sentence? To say something is “better” does not necessarily apply a percentage to it. To place a numerical on that sentence is reallllyyy stretching.

@booms

I will agree with that. But I’m still sticking to my original point, guardian counters thief. In a 1v1 situation, if the guardian loses to the thief, they were outplayed.

SlayerSixx.5763:

Everyone should be toned down and should have one trait while everyone wields a greatstick that fires off at 1 range with infinite projectile speed. Some classes are designed to do better vs other classes, thats how stuff works.

@Drennon

The class with the lowest base HP (not mentioning highest armor because lets be honest, you’d need an upwards of 2.8-3k armor for you to notice an actual drop in damage taken) that survives purely off of blocks and small burst heals is an easy class? Thieves stealth and guards block. A thief that burns all of his initiative just to camp stealth eventually runs out and gets rolled. A guard that burns all of his blocks like a madman eventually runs out and gets rolled. I’ll admit, setting up guard DPS isn’t too hard, but guard was always about his active defenses. If a zerk guard doesn’t bait dodges and stun breaks, we’re reduced to auto attacking for another 20-30 seconds (don’t talk about the alternate weapon set, as that is simply a filler until the real burst is back up). Zerk guard is the most forgiving zerk class for a whole 10 seconds if you don’t manage your blocks.

Honestly, deal with it.

I have 1000 hours on guard and about 1200 matches on it. So I think I know where I’m coming from. I’m not saying that guardian is OP or needs toned down, but it is the easiest zerker class there is.. It’s so forgiving.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Should-any-other-traits-become-baseline

You’re welcome

Because I am so kittening tired of ONE ranger auto attack taking away almost half of my health. 3.5k Long Range shot + 1.5k lighting strike. No thanks.

Ragnarox.9601:

-snip-

If you’re losing to thieves on medi guard in sPvP, then you’re being greatly outplayed. You are the closest thing to a hard counter that there is. If you’re just mashing all of your CDs while a thief is poking at you, then you’re not applying proper counter pressure.

Edit: PS there is no such thing as infinite stealth. Also, If they’re stealthed their not doing damage.

Thanks for the quick reply. I wasn’t thinking about how much symbol damage is going up. Appreciate it.

Ragnarox.9601:

Thieves win vs every class easy if you know to play it. (~70% winrate )
Guardians often die if they miss they burst or waste all of their CD’s.

Stahp with the arbitrary statistics. Guardian is the most forgiving zerker class. Blocks, involn, and every single utility heals you if you’re medi…

“lol yeah but teef can run away!” Yeah you’re right. But if theyre running, you must be winning. Use this time to reset for yourself, keep up sustained pressure, get into a spot that is hard for them to escape, etc etc.

In an unbuffed situation (no food, stacks, etc), with equally skilled players, many classes can beat thief if they play with their brain.

The people who cry “teef OP!” Have playstyle issues. Guardian in perticular seems to attract people that want easy mode. I know so many guardians who have no idea how to LoS range, jump dodge, or bate interrupts. If any one tried to play thief with out using those tactics they would be dead.

In several posts, I have seen people state that HoT is going to really buff mace. I’m playing with the specialization calculator and I’m scratching my head. I see some things that will help it, but I think I’m missing something. Can anyone elaborate on what change or combination of changes will make Mace significantly better than it currently is?

Aktium.9506:

GrandHaven.1052:

You didn’t clear 14000 worth of burning damage(yes THOUSAND). LOL. That just invalidates your post.

Some VERY easily avoided skills that you should not have been hit by.
Prybar.
Rush.
8 hits of hundred blades, WTF. LOL
Not to mention most of these show you were heavily outnumbered most likely.

Choose your battles, that will help you manage your HP pool.

I’m not sure you’re qualified to lecture a guy who plays for oRNG.

It doesn’t take a super 1337 pro to realize that the 900dmg sigil proc isn’t what is killing him in these situations. Look at some of the attacks he took to the face. With out without the procs, he would have been dead.

1: Thieves
2: Please never use Signet of Shadow in pvp again.

A celestial user crying about sigils. Because cele ele is so skillful. Sit down.

As a SPvP player / solo roamer, I was super excited for longbow. Then I saw that the range is the same, the “root” has a long cool down, and it generally lacks defense.

Looks like I won’t be putting down my scepter/focus. It has the same range, short cooldown imob, and the focus block.