Guardians lack of damage and offensive buffs. Also they can’t inflict long duratiom conditions. Give a guardian perma fury, get critdmg into radiance and make them able to inflict conditions permanently – then they’d be as good as warriors. (InPvE!)
It’s pretty much all the same how i play my characters in pve.
Maximum damage, Energy Sigils, if possible vigor and evades.
As guardian i was using 20/25/0/25/0 but since i do arah much and want the reduced recharge on WoR i swapped over to 10/25/0/25/10. Equipment is all Berserker GS with Sigil of Energy, Sword with Sigil of Energy and Focus with Sigil of Bloodlust.
I dodge whenever the situation requires it (also to stay out of combat to skip faster) and usually follow it up with GS3. Oh and well, i have a set of Knight’s Trinkets to catch aggro and sometimes use 0/0/30/20/20 if the group is terribad and im lazy.
I probably wouldn’t take any of the sognets unless they’d give 500+ power/precision.
But yeah, Having a Signet increasing guardians condition damage, which is so poor that it wouldnt matter much if you have 0 Cond or 3000 Cond, was simply a stupid idea.
The problem in taking 10 out of Zeal is not loosing the 5% damage boost for the GS, it is the minor trait which makes symbols inflicting vulnerability. That 1 stack of vuln isnt important itself but its a condition, which will make me deal 10% more damage.
Problem with buildcraft is that it does not calculate all variables and traits, etc in.
Just wanted to try him with 10/25/0/25/10 now but apparently he had something against. He just continued sitting and didn’t turn hostile.
Yeah i thought doing that too but since lupicus has reduces condition duration im not sure if it wouldnt be better to take them out of the second tree. The second major trait is almost useless and 100 power>100 precision.
i don’t know much about guardians and now have the problem that i don’t know what traits i should use to get a sub 10 min Lupicus Solo.
I recently went over to 20/25/0/25/0 (10 min 10 seconds) from 0/0/30/20/20 (around 12 min) but im missing the 20% Consecration recharge. So where should i take out 10 points to get 10 in the last tree in?
I wish people would all be running berseeker gear and dodging at the right time. What i mostly get are people in PVT or Cleric Gear who try to fulfill a healer role. Sadly that makes them extremely useless.
I say I bet a thief team could do it and now 50 people are screaming at me to make vids and calling me dumb. People are awesome.
Yeah, i realized that when i told people that 7 min ac duo is possible.
Noone even comes to the idea that they just don’t have the knowledge to imagine it is, so everyone’s crying for videos to see how it can be done…
AC didn’t get “nerfed”. Also we are not willing to share tactics, not exploits. Probably you will consider the use of terrain to do more damage (fiery gs, everyone uses it) as exploit, i don’t. If you call me exploiting the burden of proving that is yours. The burrow part is now easier because scavengers no longer exist. And it took that long because i didn’t knew that fiery gs #4 can kill a burrow that time.
That was a solo and i did not edit any of the pictures i posted. Whats so strange about those times? As single person you can’t speed up hodgins and have to go back after collecting all scepter pieces. Also the damage i was dealing was extremely low since i had no chance to melee the boss with lightning hammer (i did not even knew about lightning hammer that time i must admit lol) and as before statet – was alone and had no other person also attacking the boss. All those screens were good for is showing that i solo’d AC Path 1 after the revamp. And unless i’m not able to perfectly edit out the group window avatar’s of other people (which i would not be) that’s clearly a proof. Because when i did the solo, the dungeon you launched would have been destroyed if all other people left or you left the party yourself.
About other things: i proved that duo’ing the burrow part in theory in less than 20 seconds is possible.
A video of duo’ing the burrow part pre-revamp can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGTMBV-xjB8
Note: That run was extremely bad, it was 4 month ago and i was using P/V/T Gear and a Condition-Based build. A somehow “better” run with blurred parts and a camera recording my screen can be seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH3t5joLOhY
Note: Our skill-level sucked that time and the run was still slow. We even did a 6 minute run that time.
gwscr.com accepts screenshots as proof. Noone is forced to share the tactics he used.
Not saying that you guys have to accept it, don’t believe it’s possible if you want. Even if it is a bit kitten since i provided screenshots and gave imformation about how it can be done.
There have been arguments “blabla is not possible”, which i all proved wrong.
And what does skipping bosses have to do with this? Kholer is optional, like the Bridge event im CoF. Or are you now telling me CoF farmers who skip that are not doing CoF p1?
With 3 Thieves using ambush and thieves guild and both mesmers havin 3 phantasms up, everyone standing under feedback, that could probably end in a phase 3 skip.
http://gwscr.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=6
You can see a full solo of me, a 7 minute duo of us (third run after 3 month of zero AC) and some other things there. Duo’ing the burrow part is about 20 seconds.
With 5 men you can split (some people waiting at scepter search while others do burrow part) and killing bosses doesn’t even take 5 seconds then.
Also, farming AC rewards me with way more money than CoF or even Arah.
What do you know, even on that forum, where you go by the name “Sylars” people have called you out on dubious claims. As far as anyone’s concerned, you haven’t provided the evidence needed to back up your claims. Besides, this isn’t at all what the OP was looking for in an answer, so kindly take your ego elsewhere, thanks.
What dubious claims are you talking about that i didn’t proove?
Same ones discussed in this thread (easily photoshoppable pictures), please don’t waste time if you already know the answer
Highly doubt that since screenshots are accepted as proof there.
I don’t need to proove anything here, though. I answered the OP’s question with the right answer. I didn’t say pugs are capable of farming AC quick, just that it is possible to do so. Believe it or not, we are doing runs in the time mentioned above.
http://gwscr.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=6
You can see a full solo of me, a 7 minute duo of us (third run after 3 month of zero AC) and some other things there. Duo’ing the burrow part is about 20 seconds.
With 5 men you can split (some people waiting at scepter search while others do burrow part) and killing bosses doesn’t even take 5 seconds then.
Also, farming AC rewards me with way more money than CoF or even Arah.
What do you know, even on that forum, where you go by the name “Sylars” people have called you out on dubious claims. As far as anyone’s concerned, you haven’t provided the evidence needed to back up your claims. Besides, this isn’t at all what the OP was looking for in an answer, so kindly take your ego elsewhere, thanks.
What dubious claims are you talking about that i didn’t proove?
That time you have been kicked out of the dungeon when you were in a party and all others left/you left. Of course, i could have faked the party window of every single screen.
I doubt it that you solo’d the burrows that quickly. With the knockdowns and how quickly gravelings spawn, I don’t see it being possible. Maybe before the revamp but not now.
No. I was talking about duo’ing the burrow part. When i did it solo it took me about 50-60 seconds.
Back to duo: you have to destroy 3 burrows, so you have a bit over 6 seconds for each burrow. Walking is pretty much non-existant on the eastern side and an ele has no need to walk to the first burrow, 1500 range+ (burrow hitbox is about 800 range, so you dont need to be within 1200 range, can also cast it slightly off a burrow and it will still destroy it) and 1200+ range on last burrow. First burrow takes 1 second cast, second 5 seconds and third 2 seconds. And moving in 600 range does not take 12 seconds.
Yes, pictures are incredibly easy to manipulate i guess. All you can do is trust in those who actually posted them. Same principe as in gw1. Trust me or not, you could see ingame with leeching a run (if you get lucky and catch me up doing ac runs), it doesn’t matter too much to me. The question was which dungeon is the fastest, and that is AC Path 1.
Seriously guys, use your brain. I’m not going to spread around the tactics we’ve worked out just because people are too lazy to do it themselves. Pictures proove that it happened, thats enough.
Oh. And duo’ing the burrow event in 20 seconds… cmon, it’s not even hard to imagine how that must work.
http://gwscr.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=6
You can see a full solo of me, a 7 minute duo of us (third run after 3 month of zero AC) and some other things there. Duo’ing the burrow part is about 20 seconds.
With 5 men you can split (some people waiting at scepter search while others do burrow part) and killing bosses doesn’t even take 5 seconds then.
Also, farming AC rewards me with way more money than CoF or even Arah.
Yep. Please. Especially Fiery GS and Lightning Hammer, the 10 additional charges should change into 20% faster recharge time. Spamming Rush every 8 seconds… insane
Pretty sure AC Path 1 is the fastest dungeon path in the game. Easily 7 Minutes as duo, easily 5 minutes as 5 men group.
From loading screen until reward.
Lupicus only uses bubble on either moving or downed targets. I barely even get one bubble when soloing him. The rapidfire is based on distance, when you are his target and stand too close, he won’t use it. Therefore the best way would be to step back a little, hope he doesn’t bubble you and then wait for the rapidfire, standing still.
I could have used retreat at phase 3 to give a slight increase in the warriors dps is what I could have done better but I was too focused on watching for a bubble to hit us or use wall for the aoe which unfortunately never came at phase 3 while feedback was on cooldown.
Wouldn’t have changed much since his projectiles remove aegis in melee :P
Yeah but i guess i already deleted it, wasn’t very well played of me tbh. Raging hard when all my bloodlust stacks are gone because of some stupid grenth’s mark ignoring dodges…
Maybe you could ride Moa birds and joust with Grenth as he rides a risen Dolyak. I’M LOOKING AT YOU, HROUDA. MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
YES, MAKE THIS HAPPEN ROBERT, PLEASE!
@whoever said that a 30min’ish run would be speed: after doing a 28 minute casual now whith heavily lacking dps and a group which wasn’t on teamspeak i can say: no, 30 minutes is a pretty realistic time as long as everyone is familiar with the dungeon, able to skip trash first try and at least maintains some quite well dps.
…You did path 4 in 28 minutes with a casual / low DPS group and no voice communication? Or maybe I’m misunderstanding you.
Hmm…. no, you understood me correctly. Actually it wasn’t a low DPS group, we’ve just been missing 2 warriors.
You’d have been kicken in phase 1 anyway without aegis, the dodge was too late.
You telling me I could’ve foreseen the future and should’ve changed my playstyle on that basis?
At least to not dodge when it has been too late anyway. How is it future though when he clearly aims 1 person with grub spawn or when you have a little aegis symbol in buff tray?
You’d have been kicken in phase 1 anyway without aegis, the dodge was too late. Also very few 100b’s, using it more you could increase your damage output by over 30%. Also the team should try to not dodge grubs when he aims on someone else. kitten good job @ obal, i see about nothing that could be done better.
