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Patch Feedback [merged]

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patch notes =

Hey we are Anet we care so much about the players what we mainly thought about making new OP stuff to make you farm during somes weeks an shut up, and we included very expensive only skin item in the cash shop to make you use a LOT of money.

Otherwise smart class balance is not so important.

I sincerly hope you are excited like me to see GW2 becoming a gear treadmill game.

Blizzard team. ( ops, Anet*)

EDIT :

There are >500 skills in this game, 480 traits, and 2 designers working on this. Even then often we are bottle necked by other issues. I’m not going to say we are not working on these things, nor can I say there are things we could have changed but just ran out of time on, but this was a patch that contained ranger improvements and it will not be the last one that does so. Maybe you want more than honesty but that is what I currently have to offer.

Jon

GW1 had at least 2000 skills ( without counting all pve skills )…. now ONLY 500 skills in total, and you cant make your job correctly ? LOL

Only 2 of you ? wait GW1 didnt really had higher dev number for the skill balance right ? ( even if you are still making, like for GW1 a really not good job at balance, sorry to be rude, but its the truth )

loliloltrololo.

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Mesmer nerfs :(

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For god…. SINCE 2005 ! With GW1 Anet still didnt learn to make smart skill balance, instead they still totaly kill a skill, or make it OP…

I can understand why they changed the fantasm spawn because of the Wv3, but seriously, the ability to fire the berserker even if my char wasnt seeing the mob in pve was just pretty usefull…

Crap skill update as Anet as the secret since 2005….

I have a suggestion for Anet, delete the mesmer ? no ? tsss…

or totaly rework the mesmer to make it closer to what he is in GW1, like that no more clône and fantasme.

Anet you definitely s**** like hell.

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Thoughts on Ascended Gear? [Merged threads]

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I dont understand, many mmo create gear treadmill for hardcore players ( like WoW who lost more than 3millions players with a extension, or StarWars and many others )
But, a large majority dont like that and quit the game, result ? they just loose a lot of customer, so loose money, and as many game who only give gear treadmill as only occupation finish pretty fast in the garbage.

So, i guess Anet dev are not so idiot to ignore that, but, why the hell are they doing that instead of creating somes more interesting gameplay content !?

Did they really think its gonna be different because its “GW2” and not another mmo ? are they really so full of themself to think that doing the same thing who make other mmo fail will work because its GW2 ?

Or their goal is to keep a little hardcore players database and ignore all others, and fill them with gear treadmill because its the easyest thing to do ?
Lets wait the days they are going to merge de differents servers. ahah.

Enjoy your geartreadmill Anet.

The very nice skill of yours artists and level designer will really not save your game btw.

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Mike Obrien
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For the benefit of anyone just watching this thread:
There’s another official ANet response on the German forums. I try to summarize it here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/ANet-post-about-Ascended-items-German-forums/first
with some help from a German speaker (not me)

You may want to look here, someone on reddit already took care of it.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/139a4j/official_post_ascended_items_on_german_forums/

Well, Anet clearly want to do a World of GuildCraft game…

They should rename their game into that, and quit the “Guild Wars” name.

Seriously.

VERY desapointing.

Also they knew a majority of the player would be desapointed, but they still do gear treadmill ?
I mean, game dev isnt supposed to make customer happy !?

I dont get it.

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No matter how everyone who “like” treadmill gear tend to proove that the ascended stat boost, and worse, the legendary stat boost in not a gear treadmill.

The fact IS

“Here’s what we believe: If someone wants to play for a thousand hours to get an item that is so rare that other players can’t realistically acquire it,
that rare item should be differentiated by its visual appearance and rarity alone, not by being more powerful than everything else in the game.

Otherwise, your MMO becomes all about grinding to get the best gear. We don’t make grindy games — we leave the grind to other MMOs.”
-Mike Obrien, President of Arenanet.

No matter how you are saying that.

Ascended stat boost compare to exotic + legendary stat over boost = gear treadmill.

Ascended armor SHOULD NOT have better stats. legendary SHOULD NOT have better stats than exotic.

Even if its not 90% against the treadmill, its at least 80% without a lot of doubt.
Did Anet prefer listen the 15-20% of “hardcore stat gear farmer” of the 80-85% of the player who bought GW2 BECAUSE of not gear treadmill ?

OR.

To make everyone happy, Anet should do like in GW1
Create a merchant, who sell item with ascended stat, and legendary stats very cheap, but with a basic skin.
Like that hardcore farmer could farm during 1years their own overpowered-ascended-legendary item with the fancy skin
And thoses who HATE the gear farming like me could still have easyly the best stat in game, and not have to worry about the mandatory of this annoying gear farming.

Like in GW1 where we had the lvl 20 armor with stat max for 1k ( it would be like 30-40silver ) and the same lvl 20 armor stat BUT with a really better skin way more expensive.

It will still make the exotic totaly useless, but since Anet want to throw exotic at bin…

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What is a Gear Treadmill?

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Anyway rant aside, a “gear treadmill” in an MMO is inevitable as its what these games are built around.

Inevitable you say? I’m pretty sure there’s an extremely relevant counterexample that disproves that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guild_Wars

LOL man did you even play GW1? there was a very clear defined treadmill in that game, there was ways of obtaining much better gear and HEROES in my opinion actually broke the game… it may not have been as cookie cutter as “GRIND THIS RAID” until the piece you want drops from a certain boss, but for example my buddie had over 1 million gold, much better gear then me, and was way more powerful. This happened cause he had the treadmill on max speed and chose to sprint along on it, while i chose to get off lol

In GW1 they were just alot more inventive, I.E. when FoW and UW first popped up and they were insanely difficult and none one could even beat them for a while… and the gear they provided was only minimal upgrades but it felt like you accomplished something mainly because of the sheer difficulty.

The FoW / UW armor DID NOT provide ANY BETTER stat than the lvl20 ( max lvl ) 1k armor.
It was the SAME STAT. Just a skin really really hard to get. That’s all.

And that was perfect. Thoses who love farm for a rare skin could perfectly do it. Thoses who hate farm for anything didnt had to do it because it was just a skin, and you could have the better stat was more easyly than the GW2 exotic ones.

GW1 didnt have gear treadmill.

Gear treadmill is when the stat keep growing. and ALL ( really ALL ) lvl 20 armor have the SAMES stats, no matter if its vabbian / UW / FoW…

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Can This get a sticky? Please.

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No gear treadmill since 2007 with GW1.

They explicitly said NO gear treadmill in GW2 too.

“Here’s what we believe: If someone wants to play for a thousand hours to get an item that is so rare that other players can’t realistically acquire it,
that rare item should be differentiated by its visual appearance and rarity alone, not by being more powerful than everything else in the game.
Otherwise, your MMO becomes all about grinding to get the best gear. We don’t make grindy games — we leave the grind to other MMOs.”
Mike Obrien, President of Arenanet

Guess its clear.

What are they doing with ascended stuff and boosting legendary who had the same stats as the exotic one ?

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I personally is looking forward to a new dungeon. And the new gear. Cant see what the fuzz is all about if people dont want to grind DONT do it. Stop kittening and whining like little kids lol.

The problem here is that someone with a full set of ascended will have quite higher stats. For example 1000+ hp, 5%+ crit chance, 30%+ crit damage. Those are examples but over all each piece will give you 8% more stats. When some items are over 100 stats already that 8% is massive in power boost. This is what people dont realize. In order to stay useful you will have to grind.

Well, the fact of the matter is that you can’t know that. I’m not saying that it’s impossible that we will have to grind, but I’m saying that it’s possible that we don’t have to grind. I mean everyone here says that GW2 is about enjoying the journey, playing for fun and all that. What if the recipes for the ascended gear will only require things you get from having fun playing the game? I mean exotic gear right now is pretty much grindy, and people expect a new gear tier to be more of the same. What if this new gear tier is the developers way of remedying for their mistakes with the grind involved in the acquisition of exotic gear?

There are multiple ways of approach to this new patch; either you assume the worst, assume the best, or you wait and see what the developers have in mind.

This new tier is being put in so gear grinders have something to grind. According to how they have covered it this new gear is going to take time. More so than exotic’s, and less than legendary’s in order to try to hold off the content locust. So by that we can assume its infact not easy to get this gear, and will infact be time consuming in order to grind it out.

They stated that the tier is between exotic’s and legendaries, correct. But you must remember that there’s a big difference in the acquisition of legendaries and exotics. For legendaries, you need to grind every part of the game. For exotics, you need to grind one part of the game. Their goal could very well be to eliminate the grind that exotics require by spreading it out across all aspects of the game (like legendaries).

Which forces me to grind content i do not want to do. Any way you look at it is a massive time sink into content you may not like. I have dabbled in about everything out there. I personally do have area’s i will not touch ever again. If it forces me into these area’s i will leave. Thing is im not alown here. A large core of players will do the same thing.

But the main selling point of GW2 end game was that the entire game was the end game. Isn’t it logical then that the rewards for experiencing the end game covers all of it? And I know that you will say that the reward for experiencing the end game is fun, but the previous reward was actually exotic gear, but the acquisition of exotic gear is flawed since it didn’t cover the entire end game. And I have to ask another thing, is doing a dungeon once considered grinding?

Actually the main selling points was no gear grind. Top end gear available from every area of the game. You could do any part of the game but were not forced into any part of it. It was always known that highest stat gear would be easy to get as thats not the reward. The reward was the hard to get skins. Frankly hard to get skins are still exactly that. Thats why not everyone is in t3 culture gear and wielding legendary’s.

This, but we need a real answer to the question: is ascended gear the final tier?

But think about it, they (Anet) explicitly said that they wont make gear treadmill like any others mmo ( legendary weapons have the same stat as exotic )
Now they come here to say : we fill the gap between exotic and legendary…
Exotic and legendary = same stat, now ascended have higher stat, so that mean they are going to boost legendary to make them higher than ascended…. wth !?

It just make, in the first place no sence at all since its a 100% gear treadmill

Second, now, how can you really believe them, when they said that they are not going to start again every 3months adding new tiers more powerfull. And each time boost the legendary !?

In 3 months its gonna be what ? :" Hey folks we have a so cool idea, we want to fill gap between ascended and legendary, we making aviable the super-ascended via a dungeons twice more painfull as the fractal one was.. "

etc etc.

No No No.

Its a bit like a drug addict who quit taking drug. All know, if he take drug once he is going to fall down again into that kitten.
Gear treadmill, is the same thing. Start once and its over….

“we leave the grind to other MMOs.”
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Phrases you'll never hear in GW2:

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“you have a total control over your skill build creation”

“we leave the grind to other MMOs.”
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More skills more builds.

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Hello.

I played GW1 since 2007 ( with serval pause i admit it )
I just loved having 200skills per class, and having the total control of my build creation. ( without speaking of the multi-class ability ). That gave a very huge pool of various possible builds, and different gameplay.
Personaly i never get bored a single second in GW1 because of that.

Actualy, i feel a bit frustrated with GW2, the class are not so satisfying to play with because everything is locked down. ( the GW2 stat / traits system / utility skills really dont offset this lost for me )
So the idea would be to add serval skills per weapons skill slot ( like 4-5 at least ), to be able to really create your own build like GW1 allowed to.

I would be curious to know who would like to have back a 100% control over his skill build management ?

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So what would you like to grind for

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agree for more skill BUT give serval other skills PER weapons skill slot to be able to change the actual “most of the time” default crap weapons builds.

I loved GW1 because you could do what EXACTLY you want of you 8 skills slot.

GW2 is a fail for that.

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This whole QQ thing is the most funniest thing Ive seen in any MMO to date and Ive played or atleast tried them all. I can’t believe how people are crying about getting new gear.
Never have I witnessed people so scared of other people wanting to progress and having different gear. Its almost like.. OMG he grinded so hard for a legendary hes an elitist! the game is broken now! c’mon people Man up, this is an MMO.

Since you didnt even try to think a single second, and didnt even read somes post to have the answer about the problem about the “new gear”

i will just do a copy and paste.

http://www.arena.net/blog/is-it-fun-colin-johanson-on-how-arenanet-measures-success#more-8572

“Fun impacts loot collection. The rarest items in the game are not more powerful than other items, so you don’t need them to be the best.
The rarest items have unique looks to help your character feel that sense of accomplishment, but it’s not required to play the game.
We don’t need to make mandatory gear treadmills, we make all of it optional, so those who find it fun to chase this prestigious gear can do so,
but those who don’t are just as powerful and get to have fun too.”

– Colin Johanson

So far, getting exotic gear is not really a option. It change quiet a lot the possible damage. Like in WvW if you want do something else than just follow a bus, you have to get the lastest exotic gear.

And the Ascended gear is mandatory to be able to do their new dungeon with their stupid agony stuff.

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The thing you’re failing to realize is for every person who hates this, there’s a person who loves it.

Starting for this thread people who hate gear grindfest are far more superior. Its more obvious because, even ppl who didnt event know a piece of GW1 came to GW2 because they said that there arent going to have any gear treadmill.

you can also find ppl who dont use their brain to not beeing able to understand what imply this kind of update.
Plus, many said “its only one ring”, i would say, learn to read, they said in december they want had a tons of ascended item…. ( weapons / armor.. etc ).

I Also suppose they start with only one ring to see how people react, a test to see if they can go one with gear treadmill….
In this way, they are “smart” since the stat increase dont look huge at the first look and people forget that many other powered stuff coming out later.

Anet really fail this move.

I’am also really happy to see so many people not liking this.

“we leave the grind to other MMOs.”
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God you people will complain about anything. So they’re adding a new “slightly” better tier of equipment after 3 months. Did you REALLY expect them to not add any additional sets/armors/weapons/etc. to the game EVER? It’s not like this armor is even going to be that much better than what you already have. Chill the kitten out and enjoy the game.

http://www.arena.net/blog/is-it-fun-colin-johanson-on-how-arenanet-measures-success#more-8572

“Fun impacts loot collection. The rarest items in the game are not more powerful than other items, so you don’t need them to be the best.
The rarest items have unique looks to help your character feel that sense of accomplishment, but it’s not required to play the game.
We don’t need to make mandatory gear treadmills, we make all of it optional, so those who find it fun to chase this prestigious gear can do so,
but those who don’t are just as powerful and get to have fun too.”
– Colin Johanson

Also, adding MANY different armor /weapons skin like GW1 work really better.
The farmer will farm the rare weapons skins, thoses who hate like me farm many hours for gear treadmill will not have to do it.

And it’s still the same interest since you are going to farm for something rare. And the look in a mmo is really important too.

Stating from GW1 / mabinogi without gear treadmill and a tons of differents skill, it work perfectly, and everyone is happy.

But well, the game requier to offer a really interesting gameplay, and saddly, compare to GW1, GW2 do not offer that.

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Mike Obrien
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We need a word from an ArenaNet dev on this topic. We need some explanation as to their thoughts with Ascended gear and their future goals. We need clarification on this topic. You have an almost 100 page thread and we’re not making any progress until ArenaNet engages with us in this conversation. Please.

Lol, they are too afraid to answer since they clearly want to turn GW2 into a gear grind game. Even if they annonced that like a freaking snake. And everyone ( except somes .. ) clearly understood that.

“we leave the grind to other MMOs.”
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More powerful items are asked by those players who have a lot of time to spend farming an equip they need to compensate their lack of skill

but even if you are the smartest player in the world, if you fight a full exotic stuff with the poor stuff, you will loose.

grind gear game = poor gameplay like GW2 =/= GW1

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I don’t understand you people. What is the difference of grinding FOR A SKIN vs. grinding for a minimal stat increase? It probably isn’t going to be more than a 1 point stat difference like crafted vs. dungeon. Get over yourselves. You will grind for a legendary for 1 more point stat, but not armour? Oh well, to the cry babies, goodbye and send me your stuff when you rage.

Grind for a stat is nearly mandatory to stay on “top” and competitive ( playing WvW make what i said clear enough. Go duel a lvl80 full exo with a lvl 80 white stuff, you will see if you succeed kill him. Its a 100% gear based fight, unless you have the same stuff to turn the fight in a skill based fight)
Farm for a skin is 100% optional.
So if you are happy with a basic skin and the best stat in the game, you can enjoy every content you want without having to worry about “did my weapons / armor is powerfull enough for this zone / dungeon”

Also, a gear grinding game reflect the poor ability to give a gameplay interesting enough to avoid having to busy h24 the player with a brainless gear farm, and keep him play the game.

Also, if the game ( who promise us to NOT make a gear treadmill like GW1 ) start, even with a small stat increase, after ONLY 3months, how its gonna be in 1years ?
we will have a stuff 50% more powerfull than the actual exotic ? and definitely force player to farm them ?
And in 2years ? 200% more powerfull.. etc etc

Its a bit like :
-all fight barehanded, its fine,
-make aviable a sword, everyone want the sword,
-make aviable a pistol, everyone want the pistol
-make aviable a machinegun, everyone want the machinegun
-make aviable a tank, everyone want the tank..
etc….

And its even worse when you want run a dungeon or anything else who FORCE you to have a tank when you only have a sword.
bascily, you cant enjoy the game anymore if you dont farm to get the tank.

Understand how the gear grinding is terrible ?

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So far, GW1 keeped player for 7 years pretty easyly, why ? because tons of skills ( 200skills per class + multiclass ), tons of differents possible builds. It mean ALWAYS change your gameplay.
And the only farm was 100% cosmetic. It worked perfectly.

it work too for Mabinogi ( VERY old mmo ) why ? also a skill based game with no class, you can learn and play everything ( melee / ranged / magic / alchemy /..etc )
But you have to rank skill to make them more powerfull ( painfull grind part, but with a faraway more interesting goal ), and the rock – paper – scissor game style is just very interesting.
But you have nearly 0 gear grind, except for the skin too.

This game work like a charm since 2004, and 2008-2009 in NA.

Its a skill based game. focused on the GAMEPLAY. like GW1 was.

But GW2 only have a real poor gameplay and choice to make build like all boring mmo. No real party gameplay, poor dungeon only based on dodge and not on skill like GW1.. etc.
It mean get bored really fast, so only way to keep player “forcing” play is the gear grinding.
Also, the pvp is far away less interesting than the GW1 one ( no arena, no GvG, no HoH )
Anet really fail his “GuildWars” 2 even if there is quiet a lot interesting idea.

So like many here i just hate the gear grinding, but at see the poor GW2 gameplay possibilities i’am not surprised that Anet choose this easyest way instead of take the hard way to improoved smartly the GW2 gameplay.

So fail.

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A history lesson

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But in GW1 the green weapons had the SAME stat as every lvl 20 stuff, the EXACT same stat. only the 20% chance of… was differents.

For the ascended stuff, its NOT anymore the case, many did the math, and the global power have something like a 10% increase compare to a exotic item.

Its NOT like in GW1 with the green stuff. It turn out into a gear grind, because ascended stuff will be MORE powerfull than exotic stuff…

Is that so hard to understand ?

Fail history lesson.

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So far, there isnt enough feedback all should ask to everyone they know in game to come here to say how bad this idea is, to make Anet remove this horror before it come out.

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wow did everyone suddenly turn into elites overnight? i don’t see what the problem is if there is slightly more powerful gear, hell for me it means more adventuring and stuff to pursue. since i’m a crafter i look forward to this, ’specially the weapons, my pearl blade aint exactly pretty ya know?

Its +5 today, then in 3months +10, then +15… it will never end, to end up with a MMO who only offer a gear grind as only occupation.

If you like that, i guess you have enough similar mmo, and korean f2p for that.

Its not the initial GW2 philosophy. THAT’s the problem.

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I find it funny how some people say the whiners are mistaken as the majority, but you believe your opinion against ascended gear is somehow a majority.

I’m personally happy with the change.

Somes people like you like gear grinding, its another way to play… I dont understand where the fun in doing 5343504time the same thing for just a poor item but why not after all, its your problem.

But, GW1 was one of the last barrier against all thoses none sense brainless grindfest game to really focus the gameplay on the SKILL ( and skill i mean the various possible build, various way to play your class, and smartness to play it ) not just "yeah i have a +50weapons and armor, you only have a +5, i beat you easy.

There is enough mmo like that everywhere, no one here wanted that for GW2.

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Do people seriously play games for endless progression? Am I the only person who found it tedious to level up and get exotics? Does anyone play games just for fun anymore? Is there a reason why I’m asking the forum-goers all these questions?

In most mmo, since there is nothing really interesting to do, the only goal is manage to get the lvl max, manage to get the highest gear. And when its done, generaly you are bored. So they make it hard to do, or VERY long, or constantly add new higher gear.

GW1 have a total different way to manage the play for fun. You end up at lvl max very quick and get the best stuff very very easy. So everyone is equal
But you have 200skill per class + multiclass. And you alway play as a 8player group.
So you can have 100 differents way to play a single class, and way more possibilies for a group.
So finaly you never end to make build test, and have to total different gameplay depending of the groupe.
That’s the real fun !
Never ever have to worry about the stupid +5435435 powered gear to be able to enjoy the last dungeon even if you have stop play the game during 2years. No need to spend month to farm the last +542353454 stuff.
Log and enjoy everything.

And the only farm was cosmetic ONLY.

GW2 just killed everything from GW1 to create a idiotistic MMO where execpt grind, and now grind another idiotistic better gear, you have nothing to do. Also, since you dont have anymore many ( real ) different way to play your class.. you get borred pretty fast ( like all mmo )

Also, since now there isnt anymore a real equality between the players because of the gear, to enjoy WvWvW you have to get the best gear. If you dont you can be the smartest player in the world you wont be able to kill someone because your foe will juste have a better stuff.

That’s the problem of GW2, and a bigger problem for thoses who loved GW1 and was expecting the same thing. And not a WoW clone.

“we leave the grind to other MMOs.”
Mike Obrien
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