Guild Wars 2

Ryan.9387:

If you really think spirit Ranger is low skill then make one yourself and duel me.

Of course if you don’t like that idea, I encourage you to find a single spirit ranger in this game who can beat me in a duel reliably. If it is a low skill class then certainly you can find some other person who is capable of out preforming another ranger. Unless of course there is actually some depth and skill that differentiates players that you can’t put your finger on because you have absolutely no experience playing the class you comment on at a high level.

Why do people try to prove their superiority with group-oriented builds by dueling people 1v1?

data.4093:

The people arguing against dodging aren’t making any sense. If we say “mesmer don’t have a lot of damage if you can dodge it” then we could say the same for almost anything. “s/d thieves don’t have a lot of damage outside larc strike, make it undodgeable” “GS guards don’t have a lot of damage outside whirling wrath, make it 600 radius and undodgeable”. Why should any class get unavoidable skills?

Well,
Why do you believe it makes any sense that you should get two chances to dodge our attacks (At phantasm spawn and their actual attack) when we should only get one chance to dodge yours (When your damage occurs)?

You’re supposed to dodge the damage, not the setup.
It is that way with every profession.

selan.8354:

exactly. none of it is eve close to be true. i got crit for 13k by eviscerate and my spartial surge goes nowher even close there nore does any of my phantasms crit that high ever… just saying some random stuff, that isn’t even close to the truth, to get us nerfed with the next patch that why people come up with all this randomness right before patch.

You can get the staff phantasm to crit for higher than that in very, very optimal situations that are nearly impossible to recreate outside of zerged PvE champions with 25 vulnerability stacks and every condition in the game on them.

I feel there is a lot of false advertising going on in here

…
o;

JinDaVikk.7291:

I got a worse one lol every time I exit GW (alt tab windows key etc) when i change back my entire UI is gone. I have to change graphics settings twice to get them back. Worse yet I’ve had this happen in the middle of matches. Completely destroys me for 20-30 seconds.

I know this isn’t the thread topic,
But there’s a key to turn off your UI (For screenshots and such), did you do something silly and bind it to alt or something?

I think he’s actually talking about the game making multiple copies of skills when traited.

To use a single skill as an example, Blink:
When you trait for shorter manipulation CDs (Or is it ranged manipulations? Don’t remember, one of the manipulation traits), Blink doesn’t just get a shorter cooldown, but gets replaced with an entirely different skill identical in every way except the cd.

So sometimes when they patch skills they forget to patch every version of the skills and little relics get left behind. (Like, I assume, his examlpe with the necro skill)

MAGUUUUUMAAAAAA

I would say the hosting definitely needs to be upgraded, but I like the idea and I would love to actually get to see the site.

Myrmidian Eudoros.4671:

EnRohbi.2187:

I’d be in favour of them making it easier to mouse-target specific targets when things are stacked or really close together, but prioritizing players over pets for auto-target or tab targeting would kind of screw up the whole Mesmer clone thing. The idea is for you to not know immediately which one is the player. And having the player prioritized in targeting would make it a little too simple… no? o;

Also,
The difficulty in coding such a feature lies heavily in how their classes for Pets/NPCs and players are set up already. The algorithm for prioritizing players would have to be client side (Having the server decide who you target would be ridiculous), which means that the client would also have to know who’s a Pet/NPC enemy and who’s a player enemy, which is not necessarily the way it’s set up. (Having the client see all enemies as equal would be a good way to prevent hacking the client to auto-target the real mesmer, for example)
That’s just a brief, not-thought-out theory though.

I don’t think it makes the Mesmer clones too easy, the value of clones in higher level play is in the bodyblocking far moreso than the target avoidance aspect. Skilled players are able to identify the Mesmer very quickly anyway (under 1s in just about all instances). This is more a quality of life improvement for the lower skill level players.

Wherever the current auto-target routine resides this would simply be integrated into that portion of the pre-existing code. I mostly agree with your assessment of the coding aspect, and I am a bit disappointed in my choice of words, because I obviously over simplified for the purpose of brevity. Presumably the client side already “knows” (or better put can tell on sight) which objects are NPCs by the way that they are constructed. My suggestion is based on that assumption (which may be bad speculation), but it seems a logical way to program it at any rate, and is at least a coin-flip chance at being accurate. I do not have enough knowledge of the GW2 code structure to make claims about hours of coding involved, but relative to re-writing the entire auto-target feature prioritizing Players over NPCs would take little time (that does not mean it would be an insignificant time investment).

While I do not intend to turn this into any sort of debate about how important clones really are to Mesmers, deciphering which is the real Mesmer is part of the combat against players. Yes, good players figure it out nearly instantly and that’s part of the reason they’re good players. That doesn’t mean the game should do all the work for them, and for all the less-good players too.

While I don’t think the tab-targeting priorities are perfect as they are, I don’t think a straight “Prioritize Players over NPCs” is a great fix either. Once they get mouse targeting sorted out, that should be the preferred way to select specific targets out of groups anyway. It’ll always be more accurate than scrolling through tab-targets.

If I recall, Guild Wars 1 also did this fairly well. Where when many players were stacked, it would display the nameplates of every player separately (Not overlapped) so you could click the target you wanted.

There seems to be a lot of little mechanics that were in GW1 that were fantastic that never made the transition.

Myrmidian Eudoros.4671:

Perhaps a bit of constructivism would help this thread.

The minions, pets, spirits, even clones and phantasms are a very irritating issue in targeting. Perhaps it would be good to add a functionality to auto-targeting that would prioritize Players over NPC’s. It could be a simple toggle in the options or even the default functionality of auto-targeting and would take relatively little coding (since it would just be some kind of a Switch() or an If() added on to the existing auto-target code).

How would other players feel about adding this kind of a quality of life improvement for newer players? As far as I know most dedicated tPvP players don’t use auto-target anyway, so I don’t think it would bother them much.

I’d be in favour of them making it easier to mouse-target specific targets when things are stacked or really close together, but prioritizing players over pets for auto-target or tab targeting would kind of screw up the whole Mesmer clone thing. The idea is for you to not know immediately which one is the player. And having the player prioritized in targeting would make it a little too simple… no? o;

Also,
The difficulty in coding such a feature lies heavily in how their classes for Pets/NPCs and players are set up already. The algorithm for prioritizing players would have to be client side (Having the server decide who you target would be ridiculous), which means that the client would also have to know who’s a Pet/NPC enemy and who’s a player enemy, which is not necessarily the way it’s set up. (Having the client see all enemies as equal would be a good way to prevent hacking the client to auto-target the real mesmer, for example)
That’s just a brief, not-thought-out theory though.

+695 is nothing to brag about.
And I say this from a server with a high SEA presence who hits +695 fairly regularly. (I actually haven’t been paying much attention to the scores during SEA lately, so I could be wrong about that)
It’s not a big deal.
When you’re part of it a couple times and realize that how little defense is actually put up at certain times a day from servers who can’t field anyone, it loses a little bit of its jazz

WvW is for fights nowadays anyway, points have pretty much been a joke since randomized matchups started (This is also why I haven’t been watching the scores too closely). Maybe the experience is different elsewhere though :P

warsock.7830:

Achilles.2197:

ok ok.. so i’ve heard about the great DB sandwiches and beer… but I heard on the jq/fa/db thread that you guys are missing women? sounds like a sausage fest.

That’s odd because between NS rB and fire alone we could have an all women sexy zerg. How else would we always have such great sammichs?

So is that where all our women are?
I’ve been wondering…

Toxic.4320:

As I read this thread.. I wonder.. what happened to the DB I first met back when I was on TC? Since when did you get so many forum warriors?

I’m pretty sure every forum warrior we have has been around for ages.
They just got more vocal.

Maguuma rubs off on you, after so long.

Eviator.9746:

I suggest waiting. You’ll find a bunch of DB roamers (myself included) weekdays during EU primetime. It’s our lowest participation time slot, and there’s usually a zerg on only one, maybe two maps.

Yeah,
Most of my wvw playtime is during EU prime, and a lot of it is solo roaming.

Swing by DB BL in the mornings, I’ll be down south patrolling.
On a weekday, anyway.
Don’t do much on weekends.

Vashti.8179:

eithinan.9841:

Just needed to put this here. I would be embarrassed if this squishy got away from me on my thief.

I guess I don’t understand this post. Why did you “need” to put this here? To show that a CD invader couldn’t kill you? GG I guess. Like Jakob said, maybe the guy was trying out a new build, or perhaps the guy is running full PVT gear to go for a tanky build. Or yeah, maybe he’s just not that good. News flash: every server has some not-so-good players along with some really outstanding players. Pointing them all out on the forums though really doesn’t achieve anything. And no, before you ask or imply that this is me, I run a mesmer.

I just don’t understand the point of this post other than to troll for the sake of trolling. /shrug

Congratulations,
You’ve met eithinan now.

He trolls for the sake of trolling,
Then people like you get all defensive and passive aggressive and he levels up his Forum Warrior skills.

Laserbolt.6731:

In a well-matched SoloQ series of games, you will struggle to do much better than 50% wins. And most battles will be longer and a challenge to win. In most matches the score will be close all through the game. You won’t be sure you are going to win until the last moments.

Consequently, you will feel less powerful. So…for those who love to hotjoin-zerg with an overpowered team, it will feel like a letdown.

But for those who understand what is really going on, you will expect 50%, unless you and your team make some better-than-average decisions, and pull off some strategies in a better-than-average manner.

Just sayin’…be ready.

All of these things sound fantastic.
Competitive matches are far too few and far between.

saiyr.3071:

EnRohbi.2187:

saiyr.3071:

EnRohbi.2187:

saiyr.3071:

EnRohbi.2187:

saiyr.3071:

EnRohbi.2187:

saiyr.3071:

EnRohbi.2187:

Player Character.9467:

saiyr.3071:

EnRohbi.2187:

zKarp.6048:

Gotta pay the troll toll before you get into the boy’s hole

This isn’t my thread,
But this was a reference I’m happy about

I don’t know what the reference is but that sounds kinda gross

D: what did DB do to calvin?

Don’t talk to me about that poor fool

Poor fool? Don’t be silly, Calvin is the only DB that has seen the light (and joined DORP)

Then his spy plans are coming along excellently

Pretty sure the only intel he’s gained is how creepy we are in gchat!

I’ve been around the internet a long time,
I doubt your guild chat is anything noteworthy o;

Okay

:(
You hurt me with your curt replies.

<3

I’d be thrilled if like…
DE|RP and PYRO transferred to CD or something for the week so I could play with them

If only gold was limitless… …

Ewww, why would we want to go to CD?

I don’t know.
Personally, I like them better than SoS, I’d like to see CD get some love.

Maguuma!
I just checked the scores for the first time tonight,
You are doing fantastically!

saiyr.3071:

EnRohbi.2187:

saiyr.3071:

EnRohbi.2187:

saiyr.3071:

EnRohbi.2187:

saiyr.3071:

EnRohbi.2187:

Player Character.9467:

saiyr.3071:

EnRohbi.2187:

zKarp.6048:

Gotta pay the troll toll before you get into the boy’s hole

This isn’t my thread,
But this was a reference I’m happy about

I don’t know what the reference is but that sounds kinda gross

D: what did DB do to calvin?

Don’t talk to me about that poor fool

Poor fool? Don’t be silly, Calvin is the only DB that has seen the light (and joined DORP)

Then his spy plans are coming along excellently

Pretty sure the only intel he’s gained is how creepy we are in gchat!

I’ve been around the internet a long time,
I doubt your guild chat is anything noteworthy o;

Okay

:(
You hurt me with your curt replies.

<3

I’d be thrilled if like…
DE|RP and PYRO transferred to CD or something for the week so I could play with them

If only gold was limitless… …

saiyr.3071:

EnRohbi.2187:

saiyr.3071:

EnRohbi.2187:

saiyr.3071:

EnRohbi.2187:

Player Character.9467:

saiyr.3071:

EnRohbi.2187:

zKarp.6048:

Gotta pay the troll toll before you get into the boy’s hole

This isn’t my thread,
But this was a reference I’m happy about

I don’t know what the reference is but that sounds kinda gross

D: what did DB do to calvin?

Don’t talk to me about that poor fool

Poor fool? Don’t be silly, Calvin is the only DB that has seen the light (and joined DORP)

Then his spy plans are coming along excellently

Pretty sure the only intel he’s gained is how creepy we are in gchat!

I’ve been around the internet a long time,
I doubt your guild chat is anything noteworthy o;

Okay

:(
You hurt me with your curt replies.

I’ve been posting in Maguuma’s thread and haven’t posted here yet…

Hi guys ;D
Nice to see both CD and SoS again.
I wish our coverages were more on par, I miss truly competitive matches like all kitten.
And you’re two servers I’d love to have a real match with

saiyr.3071:

EnRohbi.2187:

saiyr.3071:

EnRohbi.2187:

Player Character.9467:

saiyr.3071:

EnRohbi.2187:

zKarp.6048:

Gotta pay the troll toll before you get into the boy’s hole

This isn’t my thread,
But this was a reference I’m happy about

I don’t know what the reference is but that sounds kinda gross

D: what did DB do to calvin?

Don’t talk to me about that poor fool

Poor fool? Don’t be silly, Calvin is the only DB that has seen the light (and joined DORP)

Then his spy plans are coming along excellently

Pretty sure the only intel he’s gained is how creepy we are in gchat!

I’ve been around the internet a long time,
I doubt your guild chat is anything noteworthy o;

saiyr.3071:

EnRohbi.2187:

Player Character.9467:

saiyr.3071:

EnRohbi.2187:

zKarp.6048:

Gotta pay the troll toll before you get into the boy’s hole

This isn’t my thread,
But this was a reference I’m happy about

I don’t know what the reference is but that sounds kinda gross

D: what did DB do to calvin?

Don’t talk to me about that poor fool

Poor fool? Don’t be silly, Calvin is the only DB that has seen the light (and joined DORP)

Then his spy plans are coming along excellently

Player Character.9467:

saiyr.3071:

EnRohbi.2187:

zKarp.6048:

Gotta pay the troll toll before you get into the boy’s hole

This isn’t my thread,
But this was a reference I’m happy about

I don’t know what the reference is but that sounds kinda gross

D: what did DB do to calvin?

Don’t talk to me about that poor fool

saiyr.3071:

EnRohbi.2187:

zKarp.6048:

Gotta pay the troll toll before you get into the boy’s hole

This isn’t my thread,
But this was a reference I’m happy about

I don’t know what the reference is but that sounds kinda gross

The immortal words of the great Danny DeVito

zKarp.6048:

Gotta pay the troll toll before you get into the boy’s hole

This isn’t my thread,
But this was a reference I’m happy about

The “tier 1” server isn’t actually going to spend this week boasting about beating two servers that can’t match their coverage by a long shot…. are they? <_<

With that said,
I’m happy the randomized matchups are finally giving us (DB) challenging matches for more than one week a month. I was kind of hoping for a revisit to DB/TC/FA, but this would have been my next choice. ;D

DB has been so left out of this matchup thread that it’s started trolling itself to cure the boredom

gebrechen.5643:

SykkoB.9465:

same could be said to thos who send messages harassing ppl. Everyone does wut they think is best for themselves and there friends/guild mates, harassing them for this is Sad.

They don’t harass them for leaving. It’s they way they left and they way they treated the community. And calling them toxic in that thread doesn’t make it really better.
You can go where ever you want as a guild, but blaming everyone else and taking that for a reason is disgusting
What did they expect to happen? JQ goes “hooray” for WARD/Aco leaving to the strongest NA in T1 without telling anyone?
That “toxic community” supported their pin and group in the bl on that thursday when everyone already knew they will leave.

good luck on SoR with best regards from that toxic community.

I’unno what you’re supposed to do,
But when DB guilds/members leave we all wish them well and goodluck, etc.

“Hooray” might be a little over the top.
But there’s a general civility and good sportsmanship that you can observe.

Doesn’t really matter why a guild chooses to leave or what they say about a server after they do. The best you accomplish by engaging in these forum wars with ex-servermates or whatever is that you make your own community come off as rather bitter.

Yeahyeah, OnePersonDoesn’tRepresentTheWholeServer, I know.
But people still take a server’s forum presence as an indication of the server’s overall community.

Neuromancer.2148:

covenn.7165:

eithinan.9841:

BG destroyed both servers when there was a lower tier server in the mix, but to show true superiority BG needs to become a King maker. BG needs to choose who becomes second place. Then they will truly put JQ and SOR in their place.

Dominating NA prime time on a NA server is what is actually required. Until that happens…… /shrug

We’re sorry they didn’t make servers for all the other timezones.

With the amount of times that Anet has very vocally, very clearly, and without ambiguity, come out and said “WvW is a 24 hour game and is about how well a server can maintain their score 24 hours a day for the match”, it absolutely baffles me how people on the most populous servers in the game are still deluded enough to argue that off-NA-Hours playtime is less valid than NA primetime play.

Avatar of Belle.9623:

EnRohbi.2187:

While people who do PROPER roaming are plenty valuable to their server,
The issue is that there are a lot of roamers out there who are not roaming because they want to help in WvW, they are roaming because all they want to do is gank uplevels and unsuspecting opponents (They call it “looking for good fights”) and feed their ego.

They don’t hit sentries, they don’t hit camps, they don’t hit yaks, they don’t build or repair. They idle around various parts of the BL and gank people 1v1. Those people are not valuable for anything other than very mildly trimming the opponent’s forces, probably of no actual consequence to the situation.

A lot of roamers are having fun the way they want to have fun. Not everyone cares about PPT or overall score. I highly recommend this attitude as it makes the game much more relaxing and fun.

I agree.
I’ll take plenty of breaks and have fun with enemy roamers at various times throughout any one sitting.

But this isn’t a thread about the most fun way to play WvW,
This is a thread about the actual score value that roamers contribute, or help contribute, to their server.

My post was simply outlining that there are many roamers who do not care about the score and have no desire to contribute points to their server. They make roaming seem more useless than it really is when utilized as a proper tactic. I would also remark that your recommendation to not care about the PPT further illustrates this.

Whether you consider this to be a positive or negative thing is entirely in your interpretation of how the game should be played.

I don’t understand all these complaints.

In the time I’ve been in WvW, rallying is one of the biggest tools I use as a small group. It benefits the people who know how to use the mechanic and punishes people who incorrectly regard Downed players as out of the battle.

When one of the enemies go down, focus on stomping them instead of downing more enemies. Get people out of the fight before you move on to someone else.

While people who do PROPER roaming are plenty valuable to their server,
The issue is that there are a lot of roamers out there who are not roaming because they want to help in WvW, they are roaming because all they want to do is gank uplevels and unsuspecting opponents (They call it “looking for good fights”) and feed their ego.

They don’t hit sentries, they don’t hit camps, they don’t hit yaks, they don’t build or repair. They idle around various parts of the BL and gank people 1v1. Those people are not valuable for anything other than very mildly trimming the opponent’s forces, probably of no actual consequence to the situation.

When did “I got loot bags from my opponent” turn into the insult of choice in WvW…?

Is that really the height of creativity in tier 1?

Sureshot.6725:

Can DB players please not even try to win this matchup? The near continuous skill lag is killing any enjoyment from the game. I log off as soon as my daily is complete because that is about all the torture I can stand.

I’m not even trying to win this matchup and I know many others are of the same frame of mind. I’m hoping to spread the word here so we can get far enough away from the top tier bandwagon servers and still have decent competition like we used to have.

Thank you for your support!

Winning or losing honestly won’t make much difference.
The random factor is enough to still throw these matches at us sometimes, unless we lost like 80% of our server’s coverage.

The skill lag is avoidable as long as you don’t play in zergs in EBG all day.
Otherwise, I like these matches a lot.

There’s kitten going on on all maps at just about all times. Can switch between roaming, small combat, and even big zerg fights if the idea tickles my fancy, all pretty much just by turning around and walking for 10 seconds. It’s a nice change of pace from the easier matches.

Took Duel out to run around DB BL tonight
Need to get ourselves a little more coordinated and we’ll be able to have lots of fun

Gellor.6497:

Lenador.1436:

Wonder if there is enough original old DB who still hold grudges to TSYM?

Probably not and if any did it got worked out when we fought SoS and they were still there before going to SoR

This is about where I stand.
I waited a long time to get a taste of TSYM again,
Had the match I wanted while they were on SoS, long over it now.
After transferring servers multiple times, it’s most likely that TSYM now is almost a completely different member base than TSYM a year ago.

Won’t say that I might not find myself choosing to attack TSYM tags over other guilds if I’m given the chance, but that’s more of an “Old habits die hard” thing than any grudge c:
I’m gonna wanna get my time in with SoR regardless

Did not realize there was another thread too.

Let me try to repeat my post without going to copy/paste it:

SoR!
Hello ;D

The DB/JQ/BG match a while ago was a blast, so I have a lot of high hopes for this one too.

SoR ;D
Hello!

The DB/BG/JQ match a little while ago was a blast, so I have high hopes for this one too

If nothing else, it’ll be nice to not hear about how we’re a big bad zerg server for a week. ;D

zastari.1730:

EnRohbi.2187:

saiyr.3071:

EnRohbi.2187:

zastari.1730:

This week tally of 1v1’s I had a bunch of wins 0 losses and 1 stalemate with a d/p thief with a worthless troll build that couldn’t kill a rabbit.

Offer still stands @ 20G for anyone who beats me 1v1 Best Of 5. No surprise that 0 people from Dragonbrand have made an attempt on this offer yet!

Has nothing to do with whether or not I think I’d beat you, but I don’t want to bother trying to “prove” myself to someone as arrogant and poor of a sport as you are.

I suspect other roamers on DB feel similarly, and don’t plan to stoop low enough to fuel what is nothing more than an ego boost on your part.

Doesn’t fueling ego imply that you’re going to lose? :v

It implies that that’s what he (I assume “he”. Probability) thinks would happen.

Which is probably true, as I’ve left my roaming build behind and work on a more 5v5 oriented build. I no longer do as well against people who are only built to fight players one on one. Because I know what game mode I’m playing in, and I am not playing in the “Run around and duel people” game mode.

If he wants to run around thinking he’s the king kitten because he can cheese 1v1 victories out of people, he’s more than welcome to go around doing that.

If I meet him on the field I will fight him gladly, but I’m not being part of some stupid spectacle 20g challenge match.

Fine next time we meet you can lose a 5v5 against us too. All I have to do is change one utility and magically my build is a group support build too. Crazy !!!!!!!!!!! Stupid 1v1 trash duelling builds……………….

Wiping a few times in WvW really doesn’t hit my pride as much as you appear to believe it does.
I’m not going to rage about losing any more than I would come to the forum and talk about how much trash you were if I won.

I don’t do a lot of WvWing for personal prestige or bragging rights, which seems to be a fundamental difference between the majority of the core players in our two servers.

saiyr.3071:

EnRohbi.2187:

zastari.1730:

This week tally of 1v1’s I had a bunch of wins 0 losses and 1 stalemate with a d/p thief with a worthless troll build that couldn’t kill a rabbit.

Offer still stands @ 20G for anyone who beats me 1v1 Best Of 5. No surprise that 0 people from Dragonbrand have made an attempt on this offer yet!

Has nothing to do with whether or not I think I’d beat you, but I don’t want to bother trying to “prove” myself to someone as arrogant and poor of a sport as you are.

I suspect other roamers on DB feel similarly, and don’t plan to stoop low enough to fuel what is nothing more than an ego boost on your part.

Doesn’t fueling ego imply that you’re going to lose? :v

It implies that that’s what he (I assume “he”. Probability) thinks would happen.

Which is probably true, as I’ve left my roaming build behind and work on a more 5v5 oriented build. I no longer do as well against people who are only built to fight players one on one. Because I know what game mode I’m playing in, and I am not playing in the “Run around and duel people” game mode.

If he wants to run around thinking he’s the king kitten because he can cheese 1v1 victories out of people, he’s more than welcome to go around doing that.

If I meet him on the field I will fight him gladly, but I’m not being part of some stupid spectacle 20g challenge match.

zastari.1730:

This week tally of 1v1’s I had a bunch of wins 0 losses and 1 stalemate with a d/p thief with a worthless troll build that couldn’t kill a rabbit.

Offer still stands @ 20G for anyone who beats me 1v1 Best Of 5. No surprise that 0 people from Dragonbrand have made an attempt on this offer yet!

Has nothing to do with whether or not I think I’d beat you, but I don’t want to bother trying to “prove” myself to someone as arrogant and poor of a sport as you are.

I suspect other roamers on DB feel similarly, and don’t plan to stoop low enough to fuel what is nothing more than an ego boost on your part.

koopatroopa.5360:

ElDudemeister.5108:

Nikkinella.8254:

Glad it’s not just me having these experiences with DB. On the rare occasions you can catch a few of them alone, they run to the nearest camp/tower/whatever and wait for their 80 man zerg to show up and save them. I usually roam around alone or with a group of 3 or 4 other people max trying to look for decent fights. We usually run into groups of 10 or so DB people roaming and try to fight them. EVERY SINGLE TIME, they run away from us and try to head to siege or guards and without fail, moments later a huge red blob comes to their rescue and we all get swarmed and then they laugh and dance. Is there anyone on DB who isn’t a total coward and is willing to actually fight without an army, and siege, and guards backing them up? I have yet to find any.

Yeah sorry, we were all busy playing, ya know, WvW.

You guys have more points than Yb and Mag combined. I think it’s safe for you guys to relax, move away from hitting doors and I dunno, have fun fighting people?

Or you guys could, I dunno, group up and fight us the way WvW is meant to be played?

Getting slack from other servers because our general focus in coordinated WvW is on group fights and guild raids instead of roaming and 1v1s all week is seriously one of the most pathetic things I’ve seen be a recurring theme on this forum.

And I say this as someone who spends almost his entire time in WvW roaming or with groups of 2~4 people (Including myself).
Unless I am only an Illusion, since the popular opinion seems to be that “DB roamers don’t exist”

Eviator.9746:

saiyr.3071:

Eviator.9746:

saiyr.3071:

I like how you left in the bottom line

Wasn’t an accident

Oh I know. DB does it too, just most people don’t bother to post about it vOv

And neither did I. I posted about the truly impressive numbers Mag could field during EU primetime.

Some people just can’t take a compliment

Eviator.9746:

Benjamin.6235:

Wick.1280:

Maguuma has a higher post count than WvW kills.

Hey, don’t knock it. At least threads with Maguuma are somewhat entertaining.

I don’t know, it seems kinda forced at this point. Look how hard Calvin is trying, for example.

Everyone’s trying too hard lately.
DB and Maguuma have fought each other too many times for any of our forum warriors to still be fresh.

Threads with Maguuma are just active now, they’re not as entertaining as they once were.

EDIT: Apparently I quoted the wrong post. Fixed.

wads.5730:

how do you have better coverage when you already have 24/7 coverage? does db’s asians not have the ability to queue up atleast 2-3 maps?

We don’t have 24/7 coverage.
We lose 85%~ of our force through EU Primetime after our SEA players go to bed, and from what I hear our Oceanic primetime is lackluster too.

EBG is the only map we have people in consistently.
And let’s not forget the fairweathers, that every server has, who are all out fighting for DB right now and won’t even bother to check the score on any week we face TC or old tier 1 servers.

Eddem.8421:

1)Prices for siege on the TP is stupidly low for any reasonable return.
2)Mystic toilet.. Enough said.
3)Don’t particularly want to grind another 80 for the sake of using them to kit it out.

Would just make more sense to me to invest them into upgraded siege instead of plonking all my skill points into upgrades.

1) If badges are otherwise worthless to you, then converting them into siege for gold is still both more money and less wasted bank spaces.
2) If you don’t like RNG, you are very, very, very much playing the wrong game. Anet loves their RNG and you should embrace it to become successful.
3) You being too lazy to level a character is not actual, legitimate grounds for complaints.

Levve.2716:

The only solution to get rid of these mega blobs would be deleting the commander tags.
No commanders in wvw will most likely reduce dem blobs, though it’s not the perfect solution because the pugs will not enjoy wvw anymore, (running around without a clue) and since pugs are the majority of wvw, Anet would lose alot of players.
But I really do understand you Jackie.1829

During the initial few weeks of GW2 there were significantly less Commanders running around WvW,
I assure you, people still knew how to blob without any trouble.

Rally doesn’t have to go anywhere.
I’m not saying the implementation is perfect, some tweaks could always help.

If you don’t want to learn to use the game mechanics of the game you’re playing, then you might have to expect that they get used against you.

Thieves are anything but boring.
They might be frustrating sometimes,
But when you find a good thief that actually wants to fight and not just cheese around the map all day, they are some of the better, more active fights I’ve had.