Guild Wars 2

draxynnic.3719:

As for things for the summit to decide… there are plenty of things to discuss:

1) Establishing how much ‘spare capacity’ each group has to turn towards the Mordremoth fight.

2) Getting everybody focused on the Mordremoth threat. Yes, the Pact has its own scientists and researchers… but if non-Pact groups are also on the problem, one of them might think of something the others miss.

3) Finding if there is anything the various groups can do in the meantime to help the others increase their spare capacity.

4) Forming protocols for Mordrem attacks in various locations, so relevant forces know what to do in the event of an attack (particularly if they’re not the ones under attack directly, but a neighbour is) rather than having to make it up as it happens and possibly making things worse.

5) Formation of a reserve to respond quickly to crisis spots (this is probably where the Pact and whatever airship fleet it still has comes in, but they can’t put garrisons everywhere).

6) Establishing protocols so that troop movements in response to 4 and 5 go smoothly – it’d really suck if, say, a Seraph army emerged from Ebonhawke to aid the charr against a mordrem attack, and was attacked by charr thinking that this was an invading army that had broken the truce.

7) Coming up with a unified strategy for securing Brisban Wildlands and exploring Dry Top and deeper into the Maguuma. There are already Seraph, Warden, and Peacekeeper forces in the area, so it makes sense that they should be part of the effort – from the sides of logistics and clearing the area from distractions (such as bandits, Nightmare Court and Inquest) if not actually serving as the ‘tip of the spear’ themselves.

8) Pressuring the Arcane Council representative to officially ban the Inquest from operating in the eastern Brisban and Dry Top area. This won’t stop them, but it will mean that Pact and allied forces won’t have to worry about legal ambiguities when they clear out any Inquest they find.

Annnd that’s just what I came up with in a few minutes of brainstorming.

I would like to welcome everyone to Guild Wars: Episode One- The Bureaucratic Menace.

While I might enjoy a lengthy text filled dialogue about the different nations arguing over the policies of this whole situation, I don’t think the good majority of the playerbase will as well.

Zomaarwat.3912:

I think if you hung out a poster in Hoelbrak that said “heroes wanted, fame, glory and fighting awaits” you ’d have most of the able-bodied Norn with you.

If they added free booze to that, that would get most of the population out there fighting.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

This comparison really doesn’t hold up. The player character isn’t a war hero. The player’s character is a high ranking commander still fighting THE SAME war. If you were one of the top ranking commanders in WWII, and WWII was still going on, and you said you wanted to call an emergency meeting for a threat that jeopardized the entire mission, you bet they’d instantly listen.

The player may still be a commander, but s/he also hasn’t been an active member of the Pact for nearly two years. So s/he couldn’t really pull out the “but I’m The Commander of the Pact” after such a long absence, since the player is basically semi-retired at this point.

Don’t get me wrong. The player has built up a lot of credibility and respect over the campaign against Zhaitan and the taking down of Scarlet Briar, but that still doesn’t give him/her the magical ability to summon up all the leaders of the free world to hold summit to go over a grave new threat.

People are always going to do what they believe is best, and that can differ greatly from what you may think. Not to mention there are motives going on in the background as well.

• Jennah recognizes the threat the EDs to everyone, so she easily accepted the invitation.
• Smodur does as well, but he has a lot of other constant threats and problems he has to deal with day by day, and that makes his time extremely valuable.
• Knut is the “leader” of a “nation” of individualist. Like Smodur, he has constant problems to deal with, but he can’t really force the Norn to do anything. He can tell them what is happening and hope they see the threat as well, but he can’t do much else.
• The Arcane Council is going to play politics the most. They understand the threat the EDs pose, but each member has their own agenda as well. The political power plays, on top of the bureaucracy itself, make it hard for them to come up with clear and decisive decisions.

Tyrians have been dealing with the Elder Dragons and outside forces trying to killing them all for centuries and longer. Death is still hard for them, but they have probably long excepted the fact that austerities happen constantly.

• Centaurs killing and enslaving villages.
• NC abducting and torturing their own brethren.
• SoS willingly working for and spreading the influence of the being that drove them all from their homes.
• A disgraced legion trying to kill their was back to the top.
• Being subject to the actions and experiments of a large group of sociopaths that have no scruples when it comes to expanding their knowledge.

Not even counting the Elder Dragons, everyday life in Tyria kinda sucks.

Plus, I don’t mind the jokes at all, because people do try to brighten up a dark situation with humor all the times. Even if it’s in poor taste. Life sucks for them, and if they allowed themselves to get effected by it, the entire cast would be filled with dark brooding Negative Nancys that don’t see a point to fighting at all since they are obviously all going to die anyway.

RedStar.4218:

How corrupted exactly was she remains the question that probably won’t ever get answered. And why she retained some sort of personality while every other minions lose it won’t probably get looked into either.

But Scarlet wasn’t a regular sylvari. Well before she was corrupted she was gifted. Mordremoth didn’t give her any kind of special ability to help her.

I have been wondering if they made a mistake with that or not. If i remember right, during Scarlet’s death cinematic, the veins going along the side of her face were yellow. The thing about Mordremoth though is that his color of energy/corruption seems to be purple. You can see it radiating off some of his larger vines, going up the vine bridge right before it gets destroyed for the Modrum event, and it’s even on the new back piece.

I’m a bit puzzled what to make of it. Mistake or not a mistake?

Mordremoth’s threat doesn’t really come from his power. It comes from just how far his reach is and the fact that he’s right on our doorstep NOW.

In several months, he was able to slowly expand his reach across most of Tyria. The vines, which are an extension of itself, are attracted to highly magical object and has shown themselves near highly populated areas. Given the numerous examples from the different events, Mordremoth is able to grow these vines to giant proportions to destroy structures and spawn his minions from them.

Though I doubt they will do it, it’s entirely possible for him to basically attack a huge portion of Tyria all at once. He may not be as strong as Zhaitan, Jormag (if the legends are true), or Kralk has been shown to be, but given that the vines are extensions of him, he could probably carry out an entire continental invasion all from the comfort of his couch/resting place.

Anmida.4058:

Of course I keep that in mind, but he was already planning to attack Lion’s Arch, and Hoelbrak several times for that matter. It still feels like he randomly turned around, went “Maybe later, I want a light snack.”, and just… yeah.

Given how they were described as apex predators a short while ago, it could be because they value keeping and protecting their own territory over most things. Lion’s Arch and Hoelbrak might be easy targets, but as long as they don’t pose a threat to him personally, they are beneath his notice…for now.

Plus, after they have woken up, they seem to get lazy and simply pull a queen bee act. and they just sit and eat while they work through their minions to get more food. This is most likely because of story and playability issues. If the Elder Dragons were active the entire time, given their power level, no one would stand a chance against them, and we would have all died a long time ago.

Anmida.4058:

I just really want to know why other dragons stop their advances at the convenient times of “we want to shift focus elsewhere”, it’s something that has been bugging me. Why does it take so long for dragons to do anything? Nevermind the fact that if the dragons themselves just swooped down and started exploding things they would get things done quicker; Just why randomly stop, is something I’d like them to address.

Because of different scales of time.

The Elder Dragons are seemingly immortal creatures, so what they would consider a reasonable amount of time would differ to what we would consider it. For creatures that can stay active for centuries to who knows how long at a time, a couple of decades of just leisurely expanding the corruption isn’t much time at all. Compare that to the mortal races, who only live around close to century (though a bit longer for Norn), a couple of decades is a good portion of our lives.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

I remain unconvinced that Mordremoth is a bigger threat than Primordus – who’s had 200 years to feast on 6 asuran cities of equality to Rata Sum, and for all we know search for ley lines himself given that both are underground (hell, it’s no wonder why he hasn’t surfaced, why should he when he could be moving from ley line hub to ley line hub snacking as he goes). Given all the plot devices the writing team has made to make Mordremoth the biggest bad of the current time, Primordus should be infinitely his greater.

Primordus, the Michael Bay of the Elder Dragons. Fire, death, destruction, and explosions everywhere!

Oh…. and the dwarves are now Transformers. Because, robots!

It also helps, if you have gotten stuck in a bad server, is to ask in the LFG channel for a taxi to a t4 or 5 server during a sandstorm. I did this yesterday morning when I needed a weapon recipe, and I left the group open so I could ferry people that needed it across. I was able to help around ten people, including myself, that way.

Wanderer.3248:

And your missing the point that Mordremoth has been sprung onto stage like an actor who hadn’t even learnt his lines yet (leaving the audience to consult their program to find out who this guy is, because he wasn’t even named until just now), and everyone, even the other actors, are just scratching their heads trying to figure out how to ad-lib without looking like idiots.

I get that Mordremoth is suddenly all over the place. That’s part of the problem, plot wise. What I don’t get is that the solution seems to be a summit of leaders, instead of a summit of axes and flaming oil.

How many world leaders does it take to say “Burn it; burn it now!”

That’s part of the reason why Mordremoth is just a big threat, because he wasn’t planned at all. Scarlet pulled him straight out of left field, and now he’s wondering around attacking different people left, right, and center, and they are all scrambling to come up with a plan to deal with him. After Zhaitan, we all thought we were going to be dealing with Jormag or Kralk. Now that Mordy has shown up, the Pact have to turn all their forces 180 degrees and face an unknown foe.

As for why they don’t just use fire and axes to deal with the problem, I would imagine it’s the same reason why they just don’t use fire magic and ice picks to deal with Jormag. It’s not that simple. Even if you cut down the small vines, their root, Mordremoth himself, is still very much down there, and the vines with probably just grow back like most plants do. Not to mention, cutting them away might provoke a counter response in kind, since you are disturbing it from an easy and filling food source.

I got t4 plenty of times yesterday. All it took was people calling out all the events as they see them. You just can’t roam around and expect to get it without at least a bit of coordination.

I think this thread would probably do better in the general discussion forum.

Kasmeer went to go get the Queen to agree to attend the summit, but she was never send to go talk to her. She herself admitted that would probably be impossible.

Kasmeer: I think our best shot is to talk to Countess Anise. If anyone can get the queen’s ear, it’s her. I just hope she has time to hear us out.
Player: So you don’t think the queen will talk to you?
Kasmeer: Even when my family was in good standing, it was tough to get an audience with her. And now? Well…she’s very busy, you know?

And as much as players like to think being Commander of the Pact gives them special status everywhere, it still don’t allow them to instantly gain audiences and access to the leadership of every nation. They can probably request a meeting, and possibly get priority given their rank, but they have to go through the channels like everyone else.

Depends on what points the different theories are using, since it differs from author to author. Some of the common examples used in the different theories can be disprove with ingame examples (i.e. Sylvari can’t be corrupted because they are already dragon minions) or they can’t be disproven due to lack of evidence because they are assumptions themselves (i.e. Pale Tree is a dragon minion/champion).

First example has counter evidence from CoE. They might have been born in a lab, but it’s a clear example of multi-corruption minion existence. The second can’t be disproven because of the lack of knowledge altogether on the subject. The only thing we really know is that the seed came from a cave filled with them, and it was guarded by plant monsters. That’s about it. Without more information on the matter, you can’t really make an argument either for or against it, since there is no facts to really back it up either way.

That would still make Mordremoth the greatest threat.

If it corrupts the Pale Tree and makes all the Sylvari his minions, all the horrible actions the Sylvari would commit are Mordremoth’s actions by extension, since they are all under his control.

lordkrall.7241:

“My theory is correct and the lore-writers doesn’t have a clue”-mentality quite a bit.

Not so much “doesn’t have a clue”. It’s more like, “They haven’t given us enough examples to show us otherwise.” Though, they have been giving us more examples the last month or so, much to are distaste, since we have been actively disproving it for the last two years.

lordkrall.7241:

^ Why not?
It would be rather interesting to get some more backstory about the Pale Tree.

Because it would make a lot of lore followers rage and/or quit for days/weeks/months, since we spent nearly two years disproving the “Sylvari are Mordremoth’s minions” theory.

In the name of cost efficacy, what will cost more?

A) Simply hiring a krewe to move a dead waypoint a couple of miles in either direction to see if it finds a leyline and starts to work again.

or

B) Getting together and funding a krewe too do some R&D. Once they have developed a prototype, they have to move all the equipment from area to area, said areas might contain hostiles which could damage the equipment, to do deep ground penetrating scans to test it.

Probably the same reason the Asuras never questioned why there was a giant dragon statue in the depths that radiated enough magic to power all their gates.

If they already got what they needed, what’s the point of asking the “whys” and the “hows”? It’s because they only really care about results in the end.

This vine, while appearing to be touched by Mordremoth, has been grown from seed under the good influence of a hero of Tyria.

“Appearing” is the key word. Present tense. The description doesn’t say it has been purified, only that it has been grown under a good influence. (Plus, the huge magical influence of all the scavenger hunt items if they are actually canon.) It is possible that the vine is still probably corrupted, hence it still retaining the purple color, but it might not be under Mordy’s influence anymore.

Glint rebelled, but I don’t recall anything saying she had somehow purified herself.

She rebelled, but that was only after she was captured by the Forgotten when she was still a champion of Kralk, and they used a ritual to sever and block Kralk’s control over her. She was neutral for awhile, but her telepathy allowed her to read the minds of the lesser races. After some time, she started to sympathize with their plight, and I’m sure she didn’t much care for her ex-master at all, and she decided to help the lesser races survive against the Elder Dragons.

RedStar.4218:

Yeah she only says that line to Sylvari, yet every other race also saw her at the center of the Eternal Alchemy and she isn’t protecting them.

That entire scene wasn’t too good. But the “(gasp) no !” is still priceless.

This was kinda answered in the “not Sylvari” dialogue…

Pale Tree: What dangers have you been toying with? Such things were not meant to be seen. They will crack your mind.
Player: I didn’t understand much of the vision, but you were at the center.
Pale Tree: If this was the device that Ceara used, then it must have maintained some of her touch upon it. But, I do not know what it could mean. Only you can know that.

It could be taken a number of ways, but I’m guessing it might just boil down to, “We might have seen a part of the Eternal Alchemy, but more importantly, we saw Scarlet’s version of it.”

Though, it does seem the Sylvari players got most of the good hints and info. And thank you to whoever put up all the dialogue on the wiki.

Pale Tree: Yes. In the past, my children have been immune. But Mordremoth’s corruption is powerful, and just as Zhaitan created the undead from so many creatures, so Mordremoth’s corruption can change you.

Something we already knew, but more proof that the Sylvari are more susceptible to Mordy’s corruption because they are plants.

Pale Tree: I believe she opened herself to it when she let down the wall of her mind. Mordremoth’s corruption seeps in through the cracks in our willpower. Do not follow in her footsteps.
Sylvari Player: I have no plan to do so, Mother. I’m strong willed.

More information regarding Mordy’s corruption style. Pale Tree acts as a shield against corruption, but hints that strong willed individuals might be able to resist it? Obvious mental aspect is obvious.

Possible connection to the Nightmare Court conversion style as well?

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Well that explains a lot. I guess that’s one more reason not to tie dynamic event chains to the personal story.

The same thing happened for me on the Bria chain, and I showed up at the Temple of Serenity one with only 30 seconds left for the event to finish.

Makes me feel so heroic when I walk up and loot a pile of rubble.

CureForLiving.5360:

From what we know of the EDs their awakening occurs when they’re hungry. They can be woken up sooner (although the means seems to vary) but for the most part they sleep until the magic tank is empty and then they wake up.

They wake up because they are hungry, but they are hungry because they exuded most of the magic back into Tyria. Those creating a magically rich environment.

Angel McCoy:

Magic is the lifeblood of Tyria. The entire world is infused with it, and it flows through everything via ley lines that criss-cross the planet.
The natural role of the dragons is to keep this magic balanced. From time to time, in the long history of the world, the dragons have awoken and begun to draw the world’s magic into themselves, reducing the level of magic flowing through the ley lines.

When the dragons have consumed enough and thus reduced the world to a low level of magic, they go back to sleep. From then on, the magic leaks from them, back into the world at a reasonable rate. Eventually, it builds up in the world again, and the dragons awaken again to tip the teeter-totter back in the other direction.

zwierz.9012:

Maybe she doesn’t like the writing she would be supposed to voice? :P

If she didn’t want to be a part of it anymore, they probably would have simply recast her. It’s most likely stuck in some sort of limbo atm. Felicia wants to stay on, Anet wants to keep her, but she can’t find the time to do it in her schedule, so they just keep pushing back her role more and more.

Sooner or later, it will get to a point where she either has to find time or Anet will have to cut her and move onto someone else. Either that or they do what they just did with Rytlock, and they write her out of the main storyline for an extended amount of time.

People actually thought they were going to get something like mounts in this LS episode? Shame on them. If they were ever actually going to add mounts to the game, they would advertise it before hand, and they would most likely be apart of a major feature patch.

The excepted theory is that it’s hard to schedule their VAs, especially Zojja’s (Felicia Day). I do believe, out of all the DE members, she’s the one that hasn’t shown up anywhere since the final PS mission.

Speaking of flavor text and back pieces, maybe we will so find out why Scarlet thought Tyria would need her one day as well, because words without explanation mean nothing in the end of the day.

Unless they give us alot more information on the matter in the next LS, I’m going to regard that backpack as only a gameplay item. After repeatedly making it clear that dragon corruption is irreversible (other than the Forgotten ritual), they can’t expect us to easily except something simple like the player’s “good vibrations” magically cured Mordremoth’s influence/corruption from the plant.

Indeed, if only gameplay and lore were one and the same…

Until such a thing happens, we don’t know if a gameplay item like a backpack that you craft during a fun lil’ scavenger hunt could be taken as an actual example in lore or not yet.

SpeedFiend.4521:

This vine, while appearing to be touched by Mordremoth, has been grown from seed under the good influence of a hero of Tyria.

Gee, I wonder if there’s some other thing that was grown from a seed under the good influence of a hero of Tyria that appears to have been touched by Mordremoth.

Because you know there wasn’t any huge amount of highly magical outside influence as well to go along with all of that as well. Stuff like: a huge amount of Bloodstone Dust, a highly magical flower pot, some Sacred Glacial Water, and finally a glob of Phantasmal Residue.

You know… Stuff everyone has lying around!

/sarcasm

Well… Rytlock is officially written out of the story now. For at least awhile anyway. He’s off to go on some wacky adventures in the Mists I guess.

As for the writing, I would definitely consider it a bit subpar, especially when judging it against the previous two episodes. I guess this has something to do with the different development teams they have working on the LS. The differences between the two groups, if that’s what happening, was a bit jarring to say the least.

My one huge critique of this episode was the seemingly total lack of urgency. The episode was about this huge threat to the entirety of Tyria slowly expanding over the land, and the dialogue, to me, didn’t really reflect that at all. That, as well as the events needed to complete the different parts, seemed to read more along the lines of “a calm stroll in the park” on the urgency scale.

• It’s nice for the Pale Tree to host the summit, even though she is obviously holding a lot secrets. Secrets that could have helped a lot of people if her actually put the information forward. I certainly hope she shared some of that information with at least Trahearne. You know, her trusted son, leader of the allied forces that deals with these sorts of things?

• Asuran bureaucracy I can understand, and its horribly sad that I have to agree with Phlunt of all people. Two weeks!? I know they are trying to sync it up with real time, but my character didn’t seem to bat an eyelash at that. Two weeks was enough time for Mordy to cross most of Tyria and ripe apart two forts, and add two weeks more, he seems to be doing a hostile invasion of the Iron Marches now. Two weeks is a long time, and my character should be deeply frustrated when hearing that.

• No human part at all.

• The Norn segment can probably be summed up with, “Let me and my son have an awkward off-screen family moment while you’re off to do a meta. It’s ok. There’s no rush.”
• The first part of the Charr segment read the same. Rytlock supposedly poured all this time into researching how to break the curse, yet he couldn’t seem to be bothered to finalize it by finding the last parts of the crown. While I didn’t mind going out to do the events, I don’t really think they belong as parts of the main story that way. Running up and looting a rubble pile, which I did for Bria’s part since it finished before I got there, isn’t all that heroic.

• I liked the second part, other than maybe the finale. Rytlock getting basically written off was foreseen by a couple people in the forums already, so it wasn’t that big of a surprise, but the acceptance on Rox and Smodur’s part was a bit off putting. Rytlock just flung himself who knows where into the Mists, and they just kinda accepted the whole situation without too many hard feelings. For all we know, he could have got dropped into a volcano fractual, getting torn apart by steam creatures, or maybe he got dropped into a reality where matter doesn’t exist. Because in the Mist, anything is possible!

In the end, my character has to twiddle his thumbs for two weeks canon time waiting for Taimi’s device and the summit to begin. All the while, Mordremoth is expanding at a fast rate, and it’s literally tearing up the countryside and killing who knows how many people…

On a side note, how many people want to bet Rytlock is somehow going to wind up in the Underworld? Because I can see them pulling Rurik’s ghost back to have a “touching” reunion with his father and possibly end the curse.

ryan.6217:

You do know the humans conquered the charr first… right? The charr just wanted what was rightfully theirs…. Not their fault Aderlburn went crazy and killed everyone. He should have just died like everyone else was supposed to

And how long does a group need to hold a piece of land before it could be considered “rightfully theirs”? Because humans held Ascalon for about a thousand years.

Be mindful of your answer though, because if it comes down to a “first come first serve” type of policy, the old races and the Elder Dragons would have the right to kill us all to take back their lands.

Xenon.4537:

That looks like a zodiac staff to me. Unfortunate…

Break my heart like that. And here I was hoping for a blue/white Foefire themed staff.

Is that a new unique npc by the Pale Tree? Also, that staff in the 4th pic… I want…

Obviously, Mr. E is Caudecus pulling an extended mindkitten on the players and Marjory and using them as catpaws to deal with problems aboard.

To be fair though, I’m only 90% joking on that.

JusticarArkiel.1564:

ViralVarda.2739:

If we ever actually fight Mord, he’ll only be harmed by “fire” type weapons, Ele in fire attunement, Ranger fire trap, and burning. The fight will last longer than Zhaitan’s “fight.”

doubt this’ll be the case, since this isn’t pokemon

A wild Mordremoth has appeared!

Mordremoth uses Vine Whip!
Player takes 100k damage.
Player has dropped 5 gold in a panic.
Player has blacked out!

draxynnic.3719:

A previous generation. We don’t need to resort to intelligent design here. There’s no need for any more complicated explanation than that Ronan basically raided a creche. Or an orphanage.

That could be possible. Some seeds need to meet all sorts of different conditions to be able to germinate. The Pale Tree seeds might need the same conditions the Elder Dragons need to be able to sprout/wake up. Aka, they need a magically rich environment.

A retcon is what they did mistakenly to the Sylvari timeline when they showed Scarlet’s birth year. An abrupt change of facts. While some people might view the changes to magic, Bloodstones, and the gods are retcons, the changes to the lore are explained when they expanded their backstory and added additional information and perspective on the subject.

Writers can change facts all the time in there works. What makes the difference between a retcon or not is usually just storytelling. Good writers can explain the changes in such a way that they are believable. Amateur writers sometimes have to use the ham handed retcon appoarch though.

Obsidian.1328:

Ugh…are players really that obtuse?

Some of them are, especially a portion of those that don’t really keep track of the lore at all. They have a habit of fixating on a single piece of information, blowing it out of proportions, and then crafting a theory around it. I’m sure we all remember one of the more “popular” theories about Scarlet last year. The one where she was obviously a time traveling Sylvari from an alternate reality.

Writers can give an inch on something, and you can bet money on a portion of the player base running a mile with it with either a tin foil hat, a doomsday banner, or their fingers in their ears going “LALALALALA!”.

With all the different directions s1 of the LS went, it’s a bit hard to get any totally accurate predictions for s2.

What I’m personally hoping for is some dragon minions interacting with one another. Given part of the recent lore interview discussing how the Elder Dragons are apex predators, and they are fine as long as they don’t really encounter one another, Mordy pulled a big no-no by possible crossing into both Jormag’s and Kralk’s territory.

It would be nice seeing some dragon minions trying to ripe each other apart. Or better yet, two dragon champions trying to kill one another.

Obsidian.1328:

Answers like that make me want to wring their skinny little necks. We aren’t asking what the Priory thinks about it, we’re asking what you, <RL ANet writer>, thinks about it. It’s almost like they think the lore is too precious a thing to talk about in an out-of-verse way.

And when they do that, we are left with about zero useful information when it comes to “intention”.

Mostly because their own words would probably be used against them at some point, or some people will mistakenly take the writer’s opinion as canon on the matter.

If some writer says their favorite race is [blank], and that writer goes onto write a story that centers around a character of said race, some people will say that the writer is playing favorites. The same can be said in reverse. Writer says he/she hates the Jotun, and they go onto write a negative Jotun story, people might say that their opinions on the race is effecting the story.

Or worse. What a Writer might say…
“I think the Elder Dragons might have a bit more emotional depth than what the players see. I hope we get around to exploring the subject more!”

What some players might see…
Breaking News! Writers say Elder Dragons are big ol’ softies, and they are just out to give everyone a hug!"

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Didn’t they confess they made a mistake in the presentation of what they had in mind? “Here’s what we thought happened, and we goofed up in getting that across”?

Which I commend them for, but it was still seemingly on the basis of our characters having knowledge that was never brought up or shown in-game. I can understand that when it comes to general stuff like one’s racial history, important figures, different abilities, and Asuran technobabble, but major plot points shouldn’t be done that way. If our characters are suppose to know it, they need to make sure it’s in-game somewhere, even if it’s a random little books all over the place.

Like they said though, they learned from this, and they are going to try and seed Tyria with lore bits and other items. Hopefully one of these days, we’ll all be crushed under mountains of information text. Whether they are about the large events that are happening or small little tidbits that give us a better look of everyday life.

Stephen.6312:

I think that members of the lore community have succinctly summed up my own thoughts on this subject: consistency within the Living Story is questionable.

I would have to agree, but I’m willing to let a lot of it slide because I understand people make mistakes, especially with how much they are cranking out with this season of the LS.

Though, if they do make mistakes, I would much rather they simply come out and say it, since that is understandable, and they can simply try and fix it later. Backpedalling and hand wave excuses hurts the player’s confidence in the writing much more in the long run.

HiddenNick.7206:

I’m suggesting that because it seems that those story instances had taken a lot of effort to make. And they aren’t replayable and do not give any meaningful rewards or encourage group play. And as such does not add anything to the game other then few additional hours of story.

Hmm….

Those story instances are repayable. You just have to reactivate that episode of the LS again, and they show up for replay as purple stars on the map.

What are you talking about? Dragon Bash has been happening for the last month or so. This year though, in a change to tradition, the Dragon is Bashing us instead.

Teofa Tsavo.9863:

The human in the Charr account. Why yes, he fits in the Charr account.

So I guess his entire role in the GoA book is a Charr account now?

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

I don’t know if it was stated here already (since I have no time to read up) but Woodenpotatoes mentioned in his latest Q&A that we, the player, learned the name of Mordremoth from a mail we got from E.

Did he?

The last letter we got from E was the one from the very first part of the first s2 episode wasn’kitten I thought it only mentions “dragons” in it.

Edit: Not sure if there is one after this one, but…

E
Strange Happenings

Character name,

I’m well aware of just how busy you are. However, you’ve heard the theories that Scarlet disturbed one of the dragons. I fear these theories have merit.

My eyes and ears in Brisban Wildlands are reporting mysterious incursions into previously quiet areas. Go see for yourself. I hope your curiosity will spur you to action.

—E

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Please add something. Even if it is just a book in the Priory library.

If they do add a book, I sincerely hope it is either a Inquest book taken from CoE, a report of all of Zojja’s finding from all the data she stole from there, or the Arcane Council’s brief summery of the additional knowledge they have gained about the Elder Dragons from Zojja’s report , and they sent a copy of it to the Pact, Orders, and/or race leaders as an act of “good faith”.

Because other then Scarlet, the Inquest are the only ones that really have any information on the subject.

sazberryftw.3809:

Dry Top is VERY good for dragonite atm.

It’s also a good way to farm Empyreal Fragments as well.

I don’t think I’ve ever gotten into a t4 server, but that might be because I play on off hours. Mostly people just milling around, and we would be lucky to ever see any blue doritos on map.