You should get an i5 over an i7 for gaming in general, but especially for GW2. You won’t see any improvement in framerate going for an i7 over an i5; drop the extra 100 Euros on an SSD or a better GPU, you’ll get more out of it
The benefit of supersampling is that it makes the game less blurry (which is a huge problem, the game is pretty bad normally) but you can correct that for a much smaller performance hit with sweetfx pretty easily
If you have a guild it could still be worth doing the dungeon, or at least paths 1+3 which are super easy. Even using LFG for a group while you run around and do dailies or whatever would probably get you a group in a reasonable amount of time
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Rpv8Lk
No idea if that PSU is any good but w/e
If you’re willing to drop up to $500 on a monitor, why not spring for two decent 1080P monitors? It doesn’t seem like you’ll be able to drive games at exceptionally high framerates (at least not in GW2) so 144Hz might not be worth it, but you can get decent 23-24" IPS monitors at around $150-170 each.
Oh, just read that you did consider it. Your GPU should be fine to drive 2 monitors unless there’s something strange I’m not aware of; it’s standard on GPUs these days. What brand/model 750ti is it?
Personally I use an Asus VS239H-P and I’d definitely recommend it; the stand is crap but the monitor is nice. I paid $160 but it looks like they’re $132 at Newegg. My mom also has a 24" Asus 1080P IPS panel and it’s just as nice; definitely something worth considering. I’ve also got a second monitor and it’s well worth the investment, especially if you get matching monitors; mine are different and it’s slightly annoying.
Some laptop for $300-400 then build a desktop with the rest
Enjoy it! You can also add sweetfx on top if you want the game to look even better
GW2 doesn’t seem to benefit though from anything over 60 fps. I mean from my experience in WvW and in PvE content. Maybe there is an advantage in true PvP, in sPvP maps.
That’s why I didn’t mention GW2
Depends on the game you play and how high end you go for your GPU. I had a BenQ XL2430T for a bit (144Hz TN panel) and, while the 144Hz was nice in the games that took advantage of it, the colors were just awful compared to my Asus VS239H-P so I sold it and just use the Asus.
If you play a lot of Counterstrike, League, TF2, games that run at 144+ FPS easily it can be worth it but if you want nicer pictures IPS is the way to go
My bad, I meant QHD, like I mentioned it before.
No idea why I wrote 2K instead xD
Meh. Even in that case 1440P is much more clear.
And I would suggest that man to buy GPU first, and after that if he have some money left, he can just buy new MB and CPU.
But right now if he wants to increase FPS, he should just buy new GPU.You can have i3/5/7 but it still won’t help you if you have R7 GPU.
Not necessarily. It depends on where you’re bottlenecking; I saw nice gains going from i3-3220->i5-3570k@4.6GHz with my 7850, especially in world boss events or the like. If he’s got a 260x getting an i5 would be the best way to spend money, especially for town/world boss framerates.
If it isn’t a 260x, it’ll probably be a good idea to just upgrade everything at once or it would really depend on where he wants higher framerates, fractals/dungeons and the open world or cities and wold bosses
Also you said that he probbably have 270X or below, but that’s not true. best R7 is 260X, after that it’s R9. Difference between R9 270X and his R7 260X is 50% at least.
You’re right, I always completely forget that anything is labeled R7 xxx…
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Your CPU shouldn’t be throttling at 65C, that’s not even hot…
Well, that’s AMD/ATI for you, they don’t identify the actual model when asked but the family. You have to look at the number of SPs and the like and then wiki it for an actual model number.
At least they fixed this for the 300 series. And there should be a sticker on the card if you pop open the case (if it doesn’t say on the card itself), so it shouldn’t be too hard to figure out what it is.
For upgrades, definitely get an unlocked i5 and a matching motherboard. Personally I would go with a 4690k (much cheaper then a Skylake chip and you only lose a very small amount of performance, especially since you can reuse your ram). Depending on your current CPU cooler it might be wise to upgrade that as well; if it’s stock, get a 212 Evo or something like a Noctua NH-D15 (depending on your budget).
As for your GPU, 2GB indicates that it’s 270x level or below so you’ll probably want to upgrade that if you’re going to 1440P. I’m honest not sure what you’d need but I’d think that something 290 level or better would be a safe bet.
With those settings you can run on 60 FPS with R9 270X on 2K resolution that you have.
I’m running it on 1920×1080 because when I go on 2K, GPU usage will go to 90% or even more. It will still work on 60FPS but I don’t wanna stress my GPU too much :P
What, exactly is 2k? 1440P? Not only does that not make any sense but it’s entirely unclear. Just use the actual number (1440P/1080P/etc), please
Generally a set of headphones+a separate mic are the way to go but without a budget mentioned get a pair of HyperX Clouds. They’re incredibly comfortable, have great build quality, good audio quality (they’re rebranded Takstar Pro80s, which are a pretty well recommended entry level headphone), and are priced well.
What CPU do you have, exactly?
that ram at only 1600
You really don’t get anything from ram above 1600MHz, though
A 380 should more then suffice. A 390 might be a good idea if you’re looking to play new AAA titles on maxed settings for the next couple of years or you want to go for higher resolution gaming in general but at 1080P a 380 is plenty for GW2 and at least high settings on anything out today
GW2 actually requires more than 2 cores if you want high-res textures
Actually, you can turn on high-res textures when you’re playing on an i3 just fine; it’s hyperthreaded so the game registers it as a quad core CPU. An i3 will actually do pretty solidly at GW2 except in super zergy scenarios or LA. That being said, I’d go with something like this:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QsmT6h
An i5-6500/6600 vs i5-4690 really comes down to what’s cheaper. Since that motherboard supports DDR3 you end up at the same price as you’d be at to get a 4690 so you might as well go Skylake. You can also grab a 6600 for another $15 or $20 but you only get another 3% performance so it’s your call as to whether or not it’s worth it
A 390 for sure. Even the power draw difference is pretty much negligible in actual dollar terms
In general a 390 is a better choice imo. It’s generally a bit better in terms of price:performance, will be better at higher resolutions if you upgrade your monitor in the future, and I personally think it’ll have more support going into the future
What CPU do you have?
As for a GPU, get whatever is cheaper between a 960 or a 380 unless you’re wanting to completely max new AAA titles, in which case get a 390 (over a 970)
Hyper 212 Evo (which is actually what I use) if you’re on a budget, Noctua NH-D15 if you’re not
i5. i7 is over kill, unless you plan on going in to multi tasking in a big way.
Speaking of multi tasking, what if you use 2 or 3 monitors, and have GW2 on one screen, Netflix or a movie playing on another screen, and say the GW2 wiki up as well. Would an i7 give a noticible improvement over an i5 in that situation?
Not trying to hijack the OP’s thread, but I’m looking at upgrading soon, and your comment got me thinking more about an i7.
I noticed no difference between an i5 and an i7 for doing that. Both at the same clockspeed
It may be your video card do you know if it is factory over clocked if it is GuildWars 2 does not do well with over clocked video cards.
GW2 is fine with overclocked GPUs
But GW2 pretty much isn’t going to get a constant 60 FPS. There’s not much you can do about it
We already have accurate 3rd party DPS meter addons, all we need is anet to say that it’s all right to use them
Your best bet is to build a computer. With no idea what your budget is, the general “new computer” I’d suggest would be something like this:
The i7 won’t increase your FPS at all, especially in GW2. For a gaming computer an i5 is the way to go these days
And why do you need 60fps? As long as it stays above 24-30fps the game is still completely playable.
Yeah, but it’s stuttery and inputs feel laggy, especially down to 24. ~30 is all right in heavy zerg situations but outside of that it’s awful.
As long as you do not see stuttering then you don’t need to OC. Only a persons need to say they are getting 60fps requires overclocking.
Yeah, except stuttering is obvious at 30FPS. Even 45 is pretty bad because of the different frame times causing a jump when a frame is held for 2 refreshes.
I can play the game in all content, and do not get noticeable frame drops anywhere. No matter what I’m doing, be it world boss or massive WvW zurg blobs. And that’s with the settings maxed.
You can get 24fps in world boss zergs with character density on highest and reflections on all?
So I stick to what I said, if you need to overclock your system, your are doing something wrong.
That would have to depend on your standards. I can’t stand to
If you need to OC your system, then you are doing something wrong.
Overclocking is pretty much mandatory if you want 60FPS or to get close in all situations. Even at 4.5GHz I only get ~45 in LA and it drops down to ~50 in the new maps in places
Really your only choice is to save a bit and try to get something else. You can’t do much of anything to improve the performance of a laptop
If you’re mostly playing games an i5-3570k is a better buy them an i7, especially if you mostly play GW2. Most games aren’t multithreaded enough to take advantage of the i7 and an i5 should be much much cheaper then an i7 (~$130, $185-200 if you also need a motherboard. If you don’t have a Z77 motherboard it mount be worth going work something newer then Ivy Bridge, though)
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Windows 10 is just the newer version of Windows. Get it off you want and if you don’t don’t like it you can just downgrade (which is what I did, I don’t like Win10 at all). It does have some improvements over windows 7 so in that sense is definitely worth trying.
Settings>General Options>Combat/movement section>Autotargeting, it’s the 6th one in the list
Yeah, that honestly sounds about right
I didn’t have any issues for the ~a month I was running Win10x64
Yeah, building your own is really the way to go. Otherwise wait for a sale on something good, there have actually been a few good HP prebuilts for sale recently.
Your computer just isn’t that powerful so your framerate is bad. It seems like it’s lower then it should be, though
Eh. It should be good enough to get to ~4.0 GHz, maybe a bit more. Intel heatsinks are pretty good for what they are.
As for how to do it, look it up online. There’s probably some guide out there that describes it much better then I could. Not that it’s really hard, though, honestly.
Lower the character limit and OC your CPU
Out of those choices, get option 2
GW2 requires high single core performance which an Xbox one severely lacks, so even if you could get it installed and booted the game would run incredibly poorly
A 940M will be the more powerful chip
Overkill much. I consider my PC to be good, yours is just blowing money into homeless people’s faces for a good laugh.
Realistically even yours is pretty overkill for like 99% of games out there unless you’re running high resolutions or framerates
Viper or Berserker depending on your class
The real question is, can it max Crysis?
Viper’s gear is obviously the best, followed by Sinister, but how does Rampager’s do? I blew all of my money on Bolt but I’ve got a spare medium Rampager set sitting around I’ve been thinking about using on my Engi.
What might be happening to you is you are moving your screen facing with a random choice of mouse button (left or right) and one changes your movement vector and the other only changes your camera direction, to allow panning your view while moving forward.
This is exactly it
You really like to argue for the point of arguing don’t you?
Not really. I just don’t like it when people try to pass off falsehoods as facts, for example this:
It has been said again and again, NVIDIA has better drivers than AMD. And again, games themselves are optimized to play on NVIDIA.
No matter how many times you say it doesn’t make it correct. Games are not “optimized to play on nVidia”; some games tend to favor nVidia, sure, but other games favor AMD. It’s basically a wash. Not to mention that trying to claim that AMD has bad drivers these days is like trying to claim that nVidia cards run hot because Fermi ran hot.
I really don’t see why you come back here just to argue AMD over Nvidia
Because people generally want to get the most out of their money?
and argue what a budget is.
That was sort of argument for the sake of argument, I guess.
It has been proven that “across the board” NVIDIA has won. R9 fury x, the top AMD card doesn’t beat 980 to and they are the same price.
This is why I continue to argue. It hasn’t been proven that nVidia wins across the board; benchmarks back up AMD winning in the majority of cases, with the 750ti and 980ti being the two notable exceptions and the 950 sometimes being competitive depending on the sale.
So let us keep the opinions to ourselves and help the poor thread owner who has to scroll past your massive quote walls and other massive amounts of texts to find his answers for his $1100 budget PC for guild wars and the like.
Sadly a lot of discussion can come into what the best pick for a PC is at a given price point
$350? My processor alone cost that much.
$350 can get you a computer that can match/beat the current gen consoles, actually. It’s not the greatest, but for $350 you can’t expect too much:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BjY2vK
My brother basically had this for a year or two and it was a pretty solid machine for the price. It should even run GW2 at Med/high/1080P/60FPS once you OC the CPU a bit.
$500-1000 is what I would consider a budget PC in today’s market. Granted, a $500 PC isn’t going to be much of a gaming rig, but it might handle a game like GW2 on low settings.
Again, you’d be surprised. $500 can do GW2 on high settings just fine. It could actually run most games out on high settings (no AA) and still get solid framerates:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7sHnP6
If you’re willing to buy used parts, $500 will go even further:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/swtN8d
Even just getting a used GPU can get you a lot more bang for your buck on a budget.
So yeah, $350-550 is budget PC range. Once you get into the $600+ range you’re pretty solidly at the midrange level (assuming all new parts) since you can get an i5+a solid GPU.
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You had a solid setup overall, a bit pricey imo (I don’t think Skylake is really worth the price increase, especially if you’re going for a locked CPU) but there are a couple of gripes I have:
-That SSD price; a 250 GB 850 Evo will run you $70-75 on sale pretty often these days.
-16 GB of ram is also excessive, 8 is fine, but if you use Chrome and want to have 3-4 tabs open 16 GB could be a solid choice.
-You can save on that PSU and still get a quality unit; for example, the PSU I have is in the $55-60 after MIR range. It’s not Seasonic, but it’s still high quality
-$50 1 TB WD Blue over a $120 2 TB WD Black
Edit: Oh, you addressed most of this already. I have no idea how I missed that but I’ll leave all of this in anyways
EDIT: I just re-read your requirements. You need a windows too and 90% running at 60fps of the time which means you will need an i7. i7 and a window will go way out of your budget.
For GW2 (and most games) you don’t need an i7 at all; you don’t really get any performance benefit over an equivalent i5 at the same clockspeed. You’re much better off investing in a better CPU cooler over spending the extra ~$100 for an i7.
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as for the budget… $1100 doesn’t even qualify as an “entry level” system. ask any enthusiast who spends triple that on custom water cooling parts alone. (forget about those $150 corsair water-cooling kits for high-end rigs) a serious competitor in the PC world buys motherboards that can handle cold bootups with LN2, which typically run 400$ and up. and they typically run 3 or more top-of-the-line video cards. which typically run $600 and up. a typical “high end” machine will run you a good $7000 minimum for the parts.
Are you serious? $1100 is well into the high-end gaming PC budget level. We’re not talking about kitten measuring machines, we’re talking about reasonable computers. Claiming that $1100 isn’t even “entry level” is absolutely laughable.
but of course, this isn’t about “high end” competitive rigs. this is about a budget $1100 gaming PC.
Budget PC level is like $350-550 lmao, $1100 is nowhere close to budget
A 970 and a 290 are both complete overkill. Either way you’ll be able to run the game at 1080P/60FPS. That CPU will hold either GPU back substantially, though. Get an i5-4690k, a cheap Z97 motherboard, and a Hyper 212 Evo.
Also, if you’re thinking about getting a 970 you should think about getting a 390. It’s an identical performing/slightly stronger card that should be a kitteneaper.
Their drivers have been bad since I had the 6950 at least. And this continued all the way until the end of the 390×. Even if their drivers are catching up with Nvidia, it wont help much. NVIDIA has hands in so many companies engines that they are all optimized purely for Nvidia and you’ll lose performance for not having Nvidia.
All right this is getting ridiculous but you’re just 100% wrong here on so many levels, especially when it comes to performance. Since you seem convinced of that I’m not going to keep going but the AMD’s performance is fine and beats nVidia at the same price point pretty much across the board, not to mention the fact that their drivers have been fine since the late 5000 series.
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