I’ve seen systems greater that yours that won’t reach those numbers, especially the Min FPS you claim.
If he was just walking around in the open world and was never in big groups it’s pretty reasonable
Looks a 1030 is a bit weaker then a 750ti or 7850 so I think it’d do all right at 1080P, medium settings
Even with my old (now secondary) IPS monitor I liked a pretty solid saturation boost, but the after pics in this are a bit much. When I got my current (TN) primary monitor I just kept using the same preset and got used to it after a couple days
Why would you want to lock it to 40?
Two possibilities come to mind for me:
Is your CPU hitting the correct clocks or is it sitting at some low idle clockspeed?
Does your computer use Optimus (where it switches between the integrated and dedicated GPUs depending on what’s happening)? If so, is it using the dedicated GPU or is it just running on integrated?
The game wouldn’t even run on the current generation consoles due to their garbage tier single threaded performance
It’s normal foe your CPU to have a relatively low amount of load. Maybe not 20% but I see 40-50% load a lot of the time.
Bomb, flamethrower, and toolkit all autoattack. Grenade kit and mortar kit don’t because the 1s are targetted
It’s a bit of everything. A better GPU would help but so would a better CPU and possibly faster RAM
The turret change feelsgoodman, just have to be more careful to not detonate a turret before the field animation is up. Still better than mercilessly mashing the button until it detonates.
This makes it feel way worse imo, instead of just being able to overcharge it instantly you have to sit and wait.
Especially at 1080P, both 6GB and 8GB of VRAM should be fine for the foreseeable future
To OP, both are excellent options, so choose the cheapest. For Gw2, they’re in fact overkill even at 1440p.
I agree with the first bit, but not so much the second bit. Especially with a 144Hz monitor my 390 (which is relatively close to a 480/580) is holding me back somewhat in non-CPU limited areas.
That being said, yeah, pretty much buy whatever is cheaper between a 580 and a 1060 6GB. Just don’t buy a 1060 3GB
I copied my install from my other computer. I’ve attached my in game settings.
Never copy files from one disk to another. Delete any track of the existing client and download normally.
Copying the gw2 install around is fine, especially if people have slow internet. Double especially if you just start the install then copy the gw2.dat over.
Especially if you’re just playing GW2, you’re going to be immensely better off with a Pentium G4560 instead of an Athlon CPU.
That being said, you can muddle by in GW2 with incredibly low specs but you will see massive performance increases by not buying absolute bottom-of-the-barrel stuff. Even with It’s especially obnoxious when you’re always recommending this stuff in threads where the OP is looking to spend a much larger amount of money.
It doesn’t matter if a build has the absolute most frames per dollar if it isn’t close to the tier of PC/level of performance that someone wants. And the double whammy is when the recommendation isn’t even the best in the price range.
but I am not sure of the worth of 4K gaming in general – and clearly a bit pointless where GW2 is concerned
Every game out there will benefit from a higher resolution if you have the hardware to drive it. GW2 is no different, although there are (apparently) issues with UI scaling above 1440P
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I can’t think of a single MMO, or RPG for that matter, I’ve ever played that didn’t have variable damage ranges. I can’t even really wrap my mind around how someone doesn’t understand after the multiple fully fleshed out explanations posted.
Flyff had static damage on normal hits but variable damage on crits and skills. Not super relevant to the discussion, though.
Best value for performance for GW2 atm:-
Fm2+ mobo
Athlon X4 860
Rx-460You’ll get 40 to 60 fps on near max settings for probably the next 3 years.
There is ofc a reason for the extremely low cost to performance ratios but if you’re only interested in GW2 you can save a lot of pennies/cents and buy lots of goodies in game.
This is terrible advice on numerous levels
https://help.guildwars2.com/hc/en-us
Go there and submit a ticket. From what I’ve heard they’ll generally refund you the difference
Yeah, just copy the whole folder over and update any shortcuts to point to the new directory.
Can’t comment on the registry thing but copying it works fine in general
My brother had an OC’d 290 and a 4.7GHz G3258 running on a CX430. Possibly not his wisest moment. He also had a microatx tower at the time with an H100i, so he just took the side panel off and sat the radiator on the ground since it wouldn’t fit in the case at all
In general PSU quality is more important, though. It just seems like a lot of people get fixated on wattage and grossly overestimate how much they need whic is why I brought it up. My 750W is complete and total overkill, it was just the best deal on a decent PSU at the time (and then I didn’t do the MIR so it wasn’t even a good deal. Oh well.)
500W minimum is a bit much. I could be fine with a decent 500W PSU. Hell, I measured my power draw at the wall while gaming and it was 400-420W for my tower+2 monitors. 400W would be excessive as well but is probably what I’d look for, especially since 400/430W PSUs are the minimum value you can find for a decent one
On the Nvidia side its GTX1050 (faster than the RX by a smaller margin) or the 1050Ti but its gonna be about £150 instead (I think that pricetag also matches the performance increase vs RX460).
I would personally say 1050Ti as a budget card.
What’s the price difference between a 470 and a 1050ti? Here in the US the 470 is only a little bit more so it’s generally not worth getting a 1050ti (unless you absolutely need a card with no power connectors)
Otherwise, yeah. A 460/470 or 1050/1050ti would all do fine
At 1080P the thing holding you back is your CPU, not your GPU. That being said, you really can’t max this game at 60FPS all the time because of how it’s coded. You could get better performance by getting an unlocked i5 and overclocking it but it’s probably not worth the cost
I had an i3-3220 before the i5 and it was all right. It’s hard to compare to the i5 since I upgraded my GPU and CPU At the same time, both of which had/would have had an impact at that point. Generally it should be fine though if you’re not watching videos or anything when you play, especially so if you do some overclocking
As a side note, is the i7-k processor really better than the i5-k processor for Gw2? I would imagine it runs into the same issue of those threads not being used. On my locked 4 thread i5-6500, I can never get Gw2 to use more than 75% so it seems that 3 cores is all that it really wants.
No one answered this, but the answer is no. You might see a slight increase because you can dedicate OS/other program resources to threads/cores not being used by GW2 but clock for clock an i5 and an i7 will get you the same performance in GW2.
I went from a 4.5GHz i5-3570k to my current 4.5GHz i7-3770k and there was 0 difference in GW2.
GW2’s performance at 1440P is fine. It’s often/generally CPU limited anyways
In terms of burning out the chip 70 is nowhere near the limit. Voltage is a bigger concern and as long as you’re <1.4V it’s all good.
Anyways none of this is really relevant to the thread, but OCing is definitely something to think about.
A better cooler would be like $20 (212 Evo, which is what I use. 4.5GHz@1.32V with good temps, ~70-72 tops in games). Overclocking would definitely help, and is the cheapest way to get better performance, but the end result still won’t be great. Just a bit better
thats bad temps for amd lol for intel i can not say
Meh. “Good” might be overstating it a bit but it’s not at a point where it’s worrisome/a problem
A better cooler would be like $20 (212 Evo, which is what I use. 4.5GHz@1.32V with good temps, ~70-72 tops in games). Overclocking would definitely help, and is the cheapest way to get better performance, but the end result still won’t be great. Just a bit better
I have a 27" 1440P monitor and don’t have any issues with the UI. It did feel small when the monitor arrived (Since I was used to a 23" 1080P monitor) but after a day or two I got used to it and now it’s great. Interface size is set to normal
The game is all right at 1440P if you have a beefy enough GPU. You’re CPU limited a lot of the time anyways, so the biggest time it will hold you back is in the open world. I usually sit at ~55-65FPS in the open world with reasonably high settings.
All of this being said, it would be worth looking at a 480 if you’re considering a 1060, which card is better pretty much comes down to which games you play
That’s about right. In LA and other super populated scenarios the limiting factor is your single threaded CPU performance, and there isn’t a CPU out there that can manage 60FPS in these scenarios. To make it better all you can really do is push your CPU a bit farther to 4.5GHz (if that’s reasonable, I have no idea how 6850ks overclock)
Also, “Dominator” for your ram is spelled wrong in your part list
There are no plans for it as far as we know.
On the technical side of things, the PS4/XB1 aren’t capable of running the game at an acceptable level in many scenarios, such as when there are a lot of people around
The shape and feel of Razer’s mice are fine, but they’re well known for having poor quality products, especially given the fact that they ask premium prices. The last decent line of stuff they had was the 2013 product line, after that it went hugely downhill. For the mice, double clicking problems are a big one to watch out for. They crop up after ~6 months for loads of people
Stay away from Razer, whatever you do. I’ve got a G502, which is great. Really just get a mouse from Logitech that fits what you want.
http://i.imgur.com/j0X2IIX.png
Get GPU-Z and see if the number in the blue box is PCI-E 3.0 16x or PCI-E 3.0 1×. This is different from the slot the card is in
It’s running PCI 16x you mean? If it’s running PCI 1x that’s bad, the card is being choked super hard
What one do you have? I’ve seen good deals on HP Envys but they’re always $900-1200, nothing that’s actually cheap
Get GPU-Z and make sure that your GPU is running PCI 16x instead of PCI 1×. If not reseat it and make sure it’s in the slot closest to your CPU
You can run it on anything, but running at medium/60FPS is beyond an integrated GPU so you’ll need a GPU on top
It seems like OP is somewhat price sensitive so getting a prebuilt+PSU+GPU or even prebuilt+1050 w/o connector is going to add some money, so building one and possibly saving $100-150 (or just making the dollar go a lot farther) could be worth it.
Especially if OP could reuse his windows key he could save some money
I’d get something like this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r2ZCqk
I wouldn’t get a prebuilt at your price range since it’s most likely going to be terrible for the price
an ASUS 2k TN monitor.
You mean 1440P? 2k and 2560×1440 are two different things
I know the game is older and the game coding is more cpu dependent, i’m just wondering if my FPS is normal for the 1080 gpu. My CPU is the i5-6600k.
If it’s a small bottle neck to GW2 only, then I wont upgrade the cpu. I just wanted to double confirm here on the forums to see if anyone else are having similar FPS on their 1080.
That seems about right. There isn’t another CPU that will be any better for GW2, so your best bet is to OC it as high as you can, which will eliminate the bottleneck as much as you can
i5-6600k or i5-7600k with z series motherboard, 8/16GB RAM (doesn’t matter, 8 is fine for a gaming PC these days), Hyper 212 Evo, whatever case you like, a quality 500W PSU, 250GB SSD+1TB HDD,
Then spend the rest on a GPU. Probably a 480
I’d get this:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/grBM6X
Or if your can reuse windows get a 1070 instead. There’s no reason to get an i7 over an i5 for gaming these days, you won’t get anything out of it
@Archon swap the HDD to a WD. Blue 1TB and grab the 620W Seasonic for $10 less and you’re good to go
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So that kind of throws Fractals and dungeons out of the question
That really shouldn’t keep you out of doing Fractals/dungeons; you can always just pug them. They’re also both great sources of money, especially if you can do T4 Fractals
The OP asked for advice and that is what I have provided.
Yes, and I provided relevant information about the quality of the advice.
Tom’s Hardware is a well established outfit, recognised and cited, industry wide. It’s comparison charts and building guides are accepted as some of the best around.
I can’t agree with “best around” but yes, Tom’s Hardware has a lot if good information available. That doesn’t mean that the list you posted isn’t flawed.
The other 8 companies I’ve cited, likewise, are equally accepted as legitimate and reliable.
Gpuboss and game-debate… Legitimate and reliable? They’re total jokes
I really don’t need an argument every time I post.
Them double check your information before you post it
so would be your amd support, I havent seen you linking evidence than amd is better.
I never said AMD was better though. I said your claim that they were less reliable was unfounded, and you never provided any evidence that your statement was true. You’re the one making the claim here, you’re the one who needs to back it up
I never said it was statistically accurate what I said. I had an AMD once, broke within in a year. a friend of mine had a similar effect of a completely different amd. in retrospect I also had a 660ti (thats a GTX) and one other (I think it was a 970) that both lasted over 5 years without ever showing signs of decay, I find that good quality
Those are still anecdotes.
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Presumably, the list was compiled by people with somewhat better experiences and resources.
Yet it still has gaping flaws
Both game-debate and gpuboss are worse then useless, and are you trying to say that the 1060 is a tier above the AMD equivalents? That’s far from the case.
+ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiYQqNiqQKU
The gpuboss link is the wrong GPU and the extremetech link has one game becnhmark and uses old AMD drivers
So yeah, maybe I should have said “compare good benchmarks”, but I figured that went without saying.
1060 a tier above the 390/390x/480? 1070 a tier above a 980ti/Fury X? GTX 960 a tier below a 7970/770/380? That’s a pretty seriously flawed list.
It is updated regularly and is generally taken as the standard reference for serious PC builders.
“Serious PC builders” look at cards within their price range and compare benchmarks, not use some random list.
AMD had less reliability though.
What is that even supposed to mean? Are you trying to say that AMD cards die faster? Because that’s a baseless statement.
As i said. Its personal experience. I could be an outlier on the graph. I just have horrible experiences with AMD and will never buy them again. But as I said. Its personal
So it’s an unsupported statement based on a single anecdote. All right.
AMD had less reliability though.
What is that even supposed to mean? Are you trying to say that AMD cards die faster? Because that’s a baseless statement.
GEE TEE EX ONE THOUSAND AND SIXTY!
that’s all I gotta say, that’s all I need to say
A 480 is a better buy. And either card is going to be excessive for the TC’s need
The only time I’ve had problems with AMD GPUs in GW2 (out of 5 GPUs- 4650M, 7850, 280x, 290, 390) was when I had an unstable overclock. I’m much more inclined to think that the OP’s card has an issue then any systemic problem with AMD cards, especially given the lack of complaints on this and other forums
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