Guild Wars 2

I’m running a basic i5 3570k, 8gb ram and a hd 7870 with a 1920×1080 display. It runs overall pretty well.

Karizee.8076:

Fernling.1729:

AesirValkyr.7418:

They just kicked off an event in a high level zone, everyone has dropped their alts and is out doing that. Last month’s event took place in low level zones and there were people everywhere.

If you are looking for a group, PM me and I’ll see if I round up some guildies and come over.

Speaking of this event in the shores, it actually upscales your level. I would suggest porting there from LA.

Don’t send a new person to his death!

Haha, as long as he hangs around others he should be fine.

AesirValkyr.7418:

They just kicked off an event in a high level zone, everyone has dropped their alts and is out doing that. Last month’s event took place in low level zones and there were people everywhere.

If you are looking for a group, PM me and I’ll see if I round up some guildies and come over.

Speaking of this event in the shores, it actually upscales your level. I would suggest porting there from LA.

You will see more when you level more and get to the big events.

Trinity, dueling and good PvP.

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There are some things in the game that still need some ironing out, but they’re hardly game breaking [/quote]

People are quitting the game left and right because of this. If that isn’t game breaking, what is?

Funny thing, I would likely buy some gear for a flat rate, I just hate the RNG crap. I learned my lesson very early on.

Vayne.8563:

So are fan boys necessarily wrong? Or can you be a fan boy and be right sometimes too?

Of course they can. Problem is that they typically don’t do anything but talk about the good the game offers. It is 95% pointless to go into the forum and talk about the good(IMO!!!) I would rather see the fanboys focus on making the game better. There are a few that act as if the game is perfect, like Lordkrall and Karizee. That is not benefiting the game in anyway, especially when they white knight in every negative game to defend the holy GW2.

Vayne.8563:

Yeah the TB quote wasn’t about Guild Wars 2 fans…it was against fan boys in general.

Would it surprise you though? I’m pretty sure I remember him being blown away by the attacks of the GW2 community for not praising the game 100% in his youtube videos. I’ve never seen him have to address a specific fanbase in that manner.

Sleepless.1906:

Fernling.1729:

Man, that TB quote means a lot to me. It’s sad, but true. GW2 is one of the more guilty ones too imo.

idk, the WoW forums are pretty awful for it. and you need to have an active sub to post there, so the bias is incredibly in favour of the game.

Honestly, just making a post about something you dislike about the game will usually result in about 20 people abusing you.

Its a terrible practice that alienates non-fanboy players of the game, and like TB says, ultimately prevents the game from improving.

I always avoided those forums.
GW2 fans attack people everywhere. I’ve never seen it so bad among various “gaming” forums, including the youtube comment section. Reddit is especially bad too, you are not allowed to post anything unless its a praise there. If you do, it will be down voted into the ground.

Man, that TB quote means a lot to me. It’s sad, but true. GW2 is one of the more guilty ones too imo.

They officially replied saying something along the lines of it costing them more money to have it track the conditions of individual players. Maybe a sub fee pays for something.

It reminds me of that chinese porn crap.

hamsteak.1368:

runescape and dayz has more viewers than gw2

this hurts me

at least we beat world of tanks

Problem is that this is a peak for GW2, while nothing special is happening with those other games.

Rerroll.9083:

No one got the irony ):

#believe in esports

I still don’t see the irony in your post.

WoW at its lowest has 10 times more viewers than gw2 at its highest and isn’t considered an esport by the majority. 1600 viewers is nothing in the esports world.

GankSinatra.2653:

You’d think that after 9 months they’d take the hint. But nah, they’re still making different flavors of icecream when all we want is waffles.

Perfect post, thank you.
seriously.

This was announced awhile ago.

Iceflarex.6840:

This is exactly whats needed. Community-driven tournaments. If this becomes a success we could maybe see a lot more of tournaments like this! Tournaments with each team buying in a slot could also be something that the better teams could be interested in.

I don’t agree that it is exactly what is needed, as Anet or some big mlg sponsored event would go a lot further.

If they charge more than a couple bucks a month, they really screwed up imo. These “servers” will only cost them a few cents a month, so there is no need for them to get greedy.

Really like this new dungeon. Although, the amount of mobs is beyond excessive. There really is no fun in having that many mobs to mow through. Overall though, I would rate this a solid 6/10.

JonathanSharp.7094:

We did test, but internal servers and external servers are not the same. Our internal tests were fine. This is why we beta!

Kind of bs that we beta test features on a game that is supposedly live. Why not open up a PTR where features can actually be tested instead of throwing us broken content.

Aeonblade.8709:

Fernling.1729:

These events in orr are very boring, which is why nobody does them.

They also lack significant reward for time and effort invested.

Believe it or not, but people will play games just for fun if they are good enough, Although, the rewards are some peoples definition of fun. For me, the DEs fail to do either one.

The Eternal Grace.3157:

Drew.1865:

Dante.1508:

Totally agree OP find a new game with things you enjoy, trying to convince people with blind faith in a product will never work.

As for the game dying not sure but from what i’ve seen its drastically declined in the past few months and so many players have taken breaks or moved on..

So each time i see Nerf this and Nerf that with very little content fillers and major mechanics overhauls i see massive groups leave, which doesn’t help the game..

Personally think you’re wasting you effort trying to explain to blind faith player that spend their whole lives on the forum defending a game and never playing it..

Agreed because if it was so wonderful they’d never be on the forums.

Thanks for supporting. These are kinda the views I’ve seen from a large number of players. I would consider myself a very large fan, and I still actively play, but I’m not afraid of admitting to the game’s downfalls and weaknesses.

I personally have no reason to make things up. If I thought the game was that good, I would be playing it right now.

Jski.6180:

Thrumdi.9216:

Xfire stats (for what they’re worth) as of April 29, 2013.

Total (xfire enabled) players:

 League of Legends 98,955
 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 55,148
 Call of Duty 2 30,310
 World of Warcraft  21,965
 World Of Tanks 9,730
 Guild Wars 2 9,545
 Minecraft 8,733
 Dota 2 8,570
 Battlefield 3 7,745
 Star Wars: The Old Republic 6,158

By any definition, that’s a hit. Right between World of Tanks and Minecraft.

Dam Minecraft and Dota 2 are that low odd they seem like wildly popular games.

Twitch is the popular site now.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Fernling.1729:

tolunart.2095:

The card game Magic: the Gathering was first published in 1993. People have been claiming the game is dying for 20 years. The folks at Wizards of the Coast laugh about it every time they cash their paychecks.

These threads are meaningless rumormongering.

Terrible example.

Not really terrible. Everyone I grew up playing the game with no longer do, and I certainly stopped playing. However, the game still is going with new crop of newbs to show off my Enduring Renewal Loop Deck to

He is basically saying that MTG had the will to survive 20 years even though people said it was dying and that means the same will happen with GW2. They just can’t be compared like that.

tolunart.2095:

The card game Magic: the Gathering was first published in 1993. People have been claiming the game is dying for 20 years. The folks at Wizards of the Coast laugh about it every time they cash their paychecks.

These threads are meaningless rumormongering.

Terrible example.

The games population has been declining since Nov-ish. Not a surprise considering thats the route most mmos take.

CobaltSixty.1542:

lol @ organised group using various strategies.

You’re right, GW2 is the game that requires strategy. I guess I was succeeding in all Gw2 content wrong.

nachtnebel.9168:

Fernling.1729:

These events in orr are very boring, which is why nobody does them.

Almost every raid in almost every other MMO is very boring too, the only thing that makes them interesting is Teamspeak.

I disagree. You actually have to be in an organized group that uses various strategies. In GW2 we can literally autoattack our way through the content.
If that was the case, t having people on teamspeak will miraculously populate the orr events!

These events in orr are very boring, which is why nobody does them.

You’re not the only one. The game just feels too shallow for my liking.

The game lacks too much for a monthly sub. I happily pay a sub for multiple other games, but wouldn’t pay one for this shallow game.

Krosslite.1950:

Above are all quotes from Arenanet.
In essence: doing DEs ARE the core of this game.
Fractal, sPvP, WvW, Dungeons are only a forth of this game, but still most everyone is focused on these instead of the rest of the game.
This has to change and it is not Anet that has to make these changes. It is the players themselves. Still they focus on old MMORPG models and do not see that this game is not them. It is its own game. That has it own challenges that they ignore daily.
As I have stated before with 26 zones of DEs mostly untouched by the player community it is sad to see them crying for the old ways instead of even making a effort to try the new way.
Please read and follow the suggestion I posted in the thread below and see how things can become different as they should be (btw I did name that thread the name it has.. an Anet employee gave it that name)

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/A-call-to-action-emergent-play-getting-the-most-out-of-GW2/first#post1842894

The DEs are just a bunch of boring and static events that lack any challenge at all. I coukd literally run through the world with auto attack on and beat 99% of the events. Maybe if the bosses moved around a little and actually required strategy it would work.

Siphaed.9235:

I’ve already reported this clearly trollish/complainant thread, but I’ll answer your question in a more direct way:

A.Net is made up of over 300 developers working on the game. Of those 300 people, they’re split into teams of 4, 10, 15, 20, and sometimes even 50 people working on different aspects of the game. Not every department or developer works on the same things. That is to say that the people that test the game and report the bugs are the QA guys, and they send it to the bug stomping programmers. Neither of those groups are the Live Team, which develop new content.

If an MMORPG stopped developing any new content just to assign 100% of it’s developers to “bug fixing/balancing”, then they’d never see new content ever!. That’s rediculous.

The problem is that we still have bugs that the game opened up with. We’re getting closer to a year that the game has been out and we are still dealing with the same bugs!
I think that the OP is merely stating that he believes Anet doesn’t have their priorities in order. Honestly, there is an enormous amount of people that believe the same thing too, just look at what they’ve done with SPvP for the last year.

ColinJohanson.2394:

We’ll be going through most of these in 2013 and looking at making them more fun and exciting encounters that better scale to support the huge armies of people who mob them.

And of course, we’re also looking into ways to make it so you can see more of those huge mobs of people as well.

Edited to add: This is a great place to throw out your ideas of what you’d like to see any of them do encounter wise to make them more exciting.

Wouldn’t it be better to try and get these “huge armies” of people to do other things instead of just zerging the few big events. I would personally like to see people doing something other than this. Perhaps make the little escort quest(all others too) actually appealing to people. As it stands, I’m unsure where everyone is when not participating in these big events.

JoopFOX.9510:

I don’t want to give too many spoilers, but it’s a good time to come back.

lol what? Its just as boring as ever.

ahuba.6430:

CA were announced to have a cost a long time ago, maybe if you hadnt been living under a rock you’d know it and wouldnt now come all with cheap indignation. CA beeing paid is a good thing, means money flowing in pvp->pvp becomes worth something to ncsoft.

So if you give a forewarning, it means it is no longer bad? Does this work with everything in life? I feel like you found the biggest life hack ever!

Juan Ignacio.8903:

i cant believe this how can u guys agree with this? paying for your own custom arena? this is so dumb!

In gw1 they were free, dota 1 and 2 free. sc 1 2 free, lol free and in how many games its free aswel?

I just dont even.

I don’t think it has sunk in for a lot of people. This is literally the only game I have seen that charges monthly to gain access to just customer arenas.

Talloc.6835:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Talloc.6835:

Sorry, Runescape claims the title of best MMO.

. . . if you tell the scam-spammers to stop emailing me about my nonexistant Runescape account being suspended/banned then I promise to try it.

How do you know that your account from the future hasn’t been compromised and now they have to send back emails to warn you?

I like the way you think.

There aren’t many “B2P” mmos out there, was just never a business model that most devs used.
As far as F2P games, I would check out SWTOR, DCUO and aion, which is a good deal fun for awhile.

Secret world is the only other mmos that I can think of that is currently B2P. That is like GW2 in the sense that it had potential, but just didn’t work out.

Tamaki Revolution.3548:

I paid $60, 8 months ago. I’ve enjoyed my time.

Not being happy with a feature or direction of a game is fine. I just find it funny when people complain about fluff or lack of content in a free game :P I’m winding down and am getting ready to quit soon, but I got my money’s worth.

I kitten and complain all the time, but I actually agreeing about having my moneys worth. If I get 20 hours out of a game, I feel like I got my moneys worth.
GW2 is a different beast altogether for me. I just feel like there was an abundant amount of potential and it was all flushed down the crap shoot.

ajm.2931:

you need gems to “host” an arena, playing in a custom arena won’t cost. (unless the host figures out some way to charge)

So you will have to pay to have a custom game? Or you are expected to spam chat hoping that someone will allow you to use the game that they purchased. Maybe they will charge a few gold a game or something. It really doesn’t help when they could just allow regular kitten dueling in the game, which would alleviate all of these issues.

Tamaki Revolution.3548:

PistolWhip.2697:

Yeah, kitten customers for demanding better service! We should just take what company’s give us and keep our mouths shut!

Free monthly updates? I demand they pay me to play these so called “updates”.

I paid $60 to get the game that was promised updates after release. So no, these updates are part of the initial purchase of the game.

Mindtrick.5190:

If wow is not a esport why would gw2

Wow kind of is an esport. There is a massive following of people that watch PvP just for the fun of it, along with a series of paid tournaments across many conventions/events. It might not be on the scale of games like LoL, but still an esport.

Gw2 is just not fun to watch(see twitch, where people watch games without spectator modes and custom games). These changed will do absolutely nothing for the game.
In short, we could say that the whole “esport” thing was just to bring in some extra box sales.

Don’t you have to pay gems to use a custom server? If so, this will not be a fix for people that are wanting duels.
They could add this option where you right click someones portrait(or /duel) and the person you did this to, could click accept and that will allow you to duel! It’s actually an amazing thought.

zallis.2138:

I have noticed that a large number of people on the forums talk about why they find this game boring (most people who arent bored spend their time actually playing the game). When they are saying things like “there is nothing to do at end game other than world bosses” etc, they seem to forget that you can do dungeons. Dungeons are a big part of this game. If you dont like dungeons, do PvP. If you don’t like either, why are you playing an MMO?

I find that there is plenty to do at endgame. Dungeons, Dailies, Fractals, PvP, WvW, exploration, achievements, events, world bosses, crafting. Why can’t other people find these activities? Or is it that they just don’t want to find them?

P.S, If you are one of the people who just doesn’t like the fact that there is no raids or higher tier dungeon, you are not one of the people i am talking about above.

I personally found all the dungeons to be boring after multiple runs through each. So yeah, they were decent fun for a few weeks. Although I found them to be less fun than most other mmos. I am a holy trinity guy.

JonPeters.5630:

As we have stated many times we have tried many modes and there is a reason we ended up where we did. This is not to say we will not introduce new modes at some point, however a few notes on death match.

1) You can obviously have it without a healer.
2) Even games people consider to be DM have tons of secondary objectives (Quake 3, counter strike, Starcraft, etc.)
3) Objective based games tend to be both more total noob friendly AND more esport observer friendly as players/watchers can go/look at where the action will likely be.

Deathmatch without other objectives lacks things like a reason to engage, a way to break stalemates, and a tie breaker. It also creates much wider blowouts when someone on your team doesn’t know what they are doing (does this ever happen to you that you get a clueless teammate? Heh)

Hopefully that clears up some of our reasoning for future discussions.

Jon

Well, hopefully you guys stray FAR away from the current conquest style mode you have. The game would be much funner with a better(see funner) match style.

$80 with gw2, much more if we are including gw1 purchases.