Guild Wars 2

Osi.3504:

Flytrap.8075:

Osi.3504:

Flytrap.8075:

Osi.3504:

Flytrap.8075:

Osi.3504:

Flytrap.8075:

Osi.3504:

Writetyper.1985:

Liewec.2896:

with any luck they’ll review their data and see that noone is doing the daily anymore and revert the change.

With any luck you’ll realize that you only have to do 4 of the 8 achievements to get the daily. The original 4 are still there. Nothing is different.

If anything, it’s easier.

Read the thread, save yourself time. People that complete all achievements for the leaderboards are different and the REAL problem is the fact they just added 2-3+ more hours onto the current daily, it’s too time consuming. brain power please.

Then don’t do the extra dailies.

That is aside from the point, again you have your head in the sand. I’ve been doing all my dailies since launch, I’m not going to change unless ANET wants to take a kitten on everyone that completes achievements as they want some to do(leaderboards for a reason duh) by changing it from 3 or less hours to 6 or more which is obviously a flawed and failed 3 hour achievement implementation for 4 points that no lifers will do because they have 12 hours a day to play the game.

I understand not everyone is bright and doesn’t have the logic to comprehend the situation because most people on here are trolls or just don’t care and the reason for the stupid reponses. Move along and post where you can actually post some constructive critism than an arrogant response.

You’re going to be so upset when ANet adds in Dailies/Monthlies that are specific to other game-modes.

Not at all, I play all game modes actually and I do well in all. All I’m saying is I want to keep my daily in a reasonable time limit, not to suddenly be changed one day 15 months later after people have dedicated their time to take two or three times as long on a patch. That’s obviously a stupid decision and it’s not just a small population of the game that does achievements everyday. The last time they did this, it was reverted and this is why I’m amazed it happened AGAIN. The lack of common sense is disturbing. There are many many other ways to add achievements for sPvP players that do not take 3 hours.

The entire PvE daily can be done way faster than that and if they DID want “wins” to be added they could have made them 1 solo wins/1 tourny win at the least.

Btw your from [Bags], nuff said.

You’re*

I’m also glad that my guild’s reputation precedes me; obviously we’re doing something right.

Well I farm YOUR guild in WvW all the time when YER not all grouped up, I just hear in WvW chat how you troll YER own server all the time. I guess that’s something to be proud of and as I said “nuff said”.

May I ask what prestigious guild you call home?

I assume you meant server, I play on Yak’s Bend. Anyways back on topic. ^^

No, I asked you what guild you’re a part of.

yksdoris.2194:

Flytrap.8075:

[Bags] is issuing an emergency call for any trolls/golem-jumpers/forum warriors on SBI; we need you now more than ever! We simply can’t keep up with the superior PVF from Yak’s and Maguuma with our limited numbers and are clearly losing in WvW’s forum theater.

…which, as everyone knows, is the most important indicator of who really won the match. Points are for losers.

Exactly, we desperately need help.

Osi.3504:

Flytrap.8075:

Osi.3504:

Flytrap.8075:

Osi.3504:

Flytrap.8075:

Osi.3504:

Writetyper.1985:

Liewec.2896:

with any luck they’ll review their data and see that noone is doing the daily anymore and revert the change.

With any luck you’ll realize that you only have to do 4 of the 8 achievements to get the daily. The original 4 are still there. Nothing is different.

If anything, it’s easier.

Read the thread, save yourself time. People that complete all achievements for the leaderboards are different and the REAL problem is the fact they just added 2-3+ more hours onto the current daily, it’s too time consuming. brain power please.

Then don’t do the extra dailies.

That is aside from the point, again you have your head in the sand. I’ve been doing all my dailies since launch, I’m not going to change unless ANET wants to take a kitten on everyone that completes achievements as they want some to do(leaderboards for a reason duh) by changing it from 3 or less hours to 6 or more which is obviously a flawed and failed 3 hour achievement implementation for 4 points that no lifers will do because they have 12 hours a day to play the game.

I understand not everyone is bright and doesn’t have the logic to comprehend the situation because most people on here are trolls or just don’t care and the reason for the stupid reponses. Move along and post where you can actually post some constructive critism than an arrogant response.

You’re going to be so upset when ANet adds in Dailies/Monthlies that are specific to other game-modes.

Not at all, I play all game modes actually and I do well in all. All I’m saying is I want to keep my daily in a reasonable time limit, not to suddenly be changed one day 15 months later after people have dedicated their time to take two or three times as long on a patch. That’s obviously a stupid decision and it’s not just a small population of the game that does achievements everyday. The last time they did this, it was reverted and this is why I’m amazed it happened AGAIN. The lack of common sense is disturbing. There are many many other ways to add achievements for sPvP players that do not take 3 hours.

The entire PvE daily can be done way faster than that and if they DID want “wins” to be added they could have made them 1 solo wins/1 tourny win at the least.

Btw your from [Bags], nuff said.

You’re*

I’m also glad that my guild’s reputation precedes me; obviously we’re doing something right.

Well I farm YOUR guild in WvW all the time when YER not all grouped up, I just hear in WvW chat how you troll YER own server all the time. I guess that’s something to be proud of and as I said “nuff said”.

May I ask what prestigious guild you call home?

[Bags] is issuing an emergency call for any trolls/golem-jumpers/forum warriors on SBI; we need you now more than ever! We simply can’t keep up with the superior PVF from Yak’s and Maguuma with our limited numbers and are clearly losing in WvW’s forum theater.

If you’re interested in letting people know how terrible they are at this game and making everyone hate you , please message Beth!

Osi.3504:

Flytrap.8075:

Osi.3504:

Flytrap.8075:

Osi.3504:

Writetyper.1985:

Liewec.2896:

with any luck they’ll review their data and see that noone is doing the daily anymore and revert the change.

With any luck you’ll realize that you only have to do 4 of the 8 achievements to get the daily. The original 4 are still there. Nothing is different.

If anything, it’s easier.

Read the thread, save yourself time. People that complete all achievements for the leaderboards are different and the REAL problem is the fact they just added 2-3+ more hours onto the current daily, it’s too time consuming. brain power please.

Then don’t do the extra dailies.

That is aside from the point, again you have your head in the sand. I’ve been doing all my dailies since launch, I’m not going to change unless ANET wants to take a kitten on everyone that completes achievements as they want some to do(leaderboards for a reason duh) by changing it from 3 or less hours to 6 or more which is obviously a flawed and failed 3 hour achievement implementation for 4 points that no lifers will do because they have 12 hours a day to play the game.

I understand not everyone is bright and doesn’t have the logic to comprehend the situation because most people on here are trolls or just don’t care and the reason for the stupid reponses. Move along and post where you can actually post some constructive critism than an arrogant response.

You’re going to be so upset when ANet adds in Dailies/Monthlies that are specific to other game-modes.

Not at all, I play all game modes actually and I do well in all. All I’m saying is I want to keep my daily in a reasonable time limit, not to suddenly be changed one day 15 months later after people have dedicated their time to take two or three times as long on a patch. That’s obviously a stupid decision and it’s not just a small population of the game that does achievements everyday. The last time they did this, it was reverted and this is why I’m amazed it happened AGAIN. The lack of common sense is disturbing. There are many many other ways to add achievements for sPvP players that do not take 3 hours.

The entire PvE daily can be done way faster than that and if they DID want “wins” to be added they could have made them 1 solo wins/1 tourny win at the least.

Btw your from [Bags], nuff said.

You’re*

I’m also glad that my guild’s reputation precedes me; obviously we’re doing something right.

Osi.3504:

Flytrap.8075:

Osi.3504:

Writetyper.1985:

Liewec.2896:

with any luck they’ll review their data and see that noone is doing the daily anymore and revert the change.

With any luck you’ll realize that you only have to do 4 of the 8 achievements to get the daily. The original 4 are still there. Nothing is different.

If anything, it’s easier.

Read the thread, save yourself time. People that complete all achievements for the leaderboards are different and the REAL problem is the fact they just added 2-3+ more hours onto the current daily, it’s too time consuming. brain power please.

Then don’t do the extra dailies.

That is aside from the point, again you have your head in the sand. I’ve been doing all my dailies since launch, I’m not going to change unless ANET wants to take a kitten on everyone that completes achievements as they want some to do(leaderboards for a reason duh) by changing it from 3 or less hours to 6 or more which is obviously a flawed and failed 3 hour achievement implementation for 4 points that no lifers will do because they have 12 hours a day to play the game.

I understand not everyone is bright and doesn’t have the logic to comprehend the situation because most people on here are trolls or just don’t care and the reason for the stupid reponses. Move along and post where you can actually post some constructive critism than an arrogant response.

You’re going to be so upset when ANet adds in Dailies/Monthlies that are specific to other game-modes.

Osi.3504:

Writetyper.1985:

Liewec.2896:

with any luck they’ll review their data and see that noone is doing the daily anymore and revert the change.

With any luck you’ll realize that you only have to do 4 of the 8 achievements to get the daily. The original 4 are still there. Nothing is different.

If anything, it’s easier.

Read the thread, save yourself time. People that complete all achievements for the leaderboards are different and the REAL problem is the fact they just added 2-3+ more hours onto the current daily, it’s too time consuming. brain power please.

Then don’t do the extra dailies.

Shakki.3219:

And again a useless post above me.

Why can’t people realize that the Achievement people want to do EVERY daily category for the AP you can get, is it that hard?

And people are complaining because they’re not able to without spending alot of time especially now with the Win tpvp kitten….

The daily is broken anyways, it should be like: choose 5 pve dailies, 4 pvp dailies and thats it, no more AP after these if you complete any. This makes it truly choosable for every kind of player.

If people wish to complain the others, add some silver or karma to that.

Your complaints are ridiculous. No one besides yourself is making you do these extra daily achievements. The people who ONLY play sPvP are grateful for the fact that they can stay in Heart of the Mists while playing and still complete their daily, yet here you are selfishly asking ANet to take them away because you don’t want to put in the time to stay on your precious leaderboard.

Ranger is FANTASTIC in sPvP and small-man WvW roaming.

If you’re looking to do anything besides that, however, go Engineer.

Luthan.5236:

Awe.1096:

Yes, I know you dont care. And I dont care that you dont care. At least one slot on leaderboards will open up for people who care about it. So at least someone will end up happy, right? Right?

You are right. Nobody cares if someone at the bottom of leaderboards who does not even know about PvP and only plays to get AP leaves the game.

Q ho.3514:

Yes pls force us to do even more stuff if we don’t want to lose any more AP coz of studid daily system , and what even worse add dailes that we can fail coz of other ppl in our team and not our performance

You don’t lose AP. You just decide not to get a few 1 AP daily achievements because you don’t want to do them. If you really are one of these people that do all the achievements only to get that 1 AP… then I think you need help.

There is tons of more stuff like living story where you constantly can get some easy 50-100 AP with each release.

Dailies you do because you like to play the game and maybe for the nice little reward chest. Not for 1 AP… lol

ahuba.6430:

You still got the old dailies, why are you freaking out?

I’m sorry this is ridiculous. The nerve of you ap farmers to think that you SHOULD be able to get ALL possible daily APs, and that anet should cater to your farming needs, instead of also giving pvp players means to get aps (tell me how much aps are there to get in pve vs in pvp?). I know pvp players are a minority, but there are people that don’t touch pve at all and that deserve the achievement points chests too.

Yeah that’s fun. For me it would really have a bad impact on quality of life if I myself had to get all AP and play everyday only to get every single 1 AP from each daily. I think there are also other fun games and stuff you can do in GW2 besides the AP and a lot of ways to still earn enough AP so you don’t need to get all of them.

The need to get all of them… it really seems like a compulsive disorder. I think people would have more fun with the game and with their life if they somehow managed to take it less seriously and play it only for fun and not forcing themselves to get every single AP while missing some other stuff they could have done in that time(which is more fun).

Glad I stopped that early. To be honest: At the beginning I thought I also wanted to get all the stuff. But with the first minis and expensive stuff which was limited in store(I don’t want to farm hours for gold or pay tons of real money) I learned it fast and was able to get away from the “I need everything”. Since then much more fun and less trouble on my mind.

Basically exactly what this guy said.

These daily “collectors” are going to have a heart attack when ANet releases versions that are specifically tuned towards dungeons and WvW.

There’s too much transient fluff and not enough substantial, permanent content.

StealthSnake.9134:

Apparently failing at taking sm is more important than Yaks getting wp’s on SBI bl.

Gj olaf and supr.

Are you saying that Stonemist is a huge waste of time and resources and is largely considered to be a noobtrap?

Madness.

Belzebu.3912:

Mesmers in WvW isn’t all that good either, but they have a couple skills that are useful, but in dungeons mesmers have many really useful skills like feedback and time warp.

Are we playing the same game?

Mesmers are pretty crucial in zergs and small-group combat, and they make fantastic roamers. You might not want a lot of them, but every group wants at least one Mesmer for clutch Portals, Veils, Mass Invisibility, etc.

To answer your question OP, Rangers have a handful of problems that make them frowned upon in most aspects of this game. Their damage isn’t super spectacular, quite a few of their weapon sets are clunky, their defining class mechanic is riddled with bugs and just isn’t very great to begin with, and everything Rangers can do, another class can do better. A lot of dungeon groups refuse to allow Rangers to join, and in WvW, Rangers are really only good at roaming and small-group combat. However, Rangers are fantastic in sPvP.

That being said, Mesmers have a spot in every aspect of the game. It is well known that their leveling can be lackluster and a bit difficult in the beginning phases of the game, but they’re very rewarding once you get to 80.

Tibstrike.2974:

It was worth it because I didn’t have to deal with a non-WvW server anymore.

You think that IoJ was a non-WvW server?

Oh, my sweet summer child. You should have spent some time on Devona’s Rest

NargofWoV.4267:

Flytrap.8075:

I’m grateful for the Tomes of Knowledge, personally.

Less time wasted leveling my new Elementalist, more time in WvW.

A lot of my guildies already have all their slots filled with level 80’s what good is a tome? I don’t plan to every make another 80 in this game, so a tome is useless to me. Personally speaking.

I don’t know what you expected to get. An ascended weapon?

I mean, giving out a huge reward like that would only further encourage griefing, double-teaming, etc. simply to receive uber mega leet super awesome rewards. I don’t know about you, but my guild and I play WvW for fun; any associated reward is just the cherry on top.

I’m grateful for the Tomes of Knowledge, personally.

Less time wasted leveling my new Elementalist, more time in WvW.

Black Scoutsman.5830:

Mek.2947:

Why are Yak’s talking smack in this thread? I mean…it’s not like anyone takes you seriously. You can’t handle a challenging match-up without putting on the Pampers and getting help from another server.

Because you keep reminding us of how sore you were when we derailed your ktrain server. We do so love the taste of tears.

Enjoy your awesome 2nd place rewards

We’re so jelly over here of your extra green.

warbreaker.8154:

I will be so happy if this is what gets reskinned for the new Flamekissed armor, at least for the female version.

/crosses fingers.

I’d be ok with this.

RyuDragnier.9476:

Flytrap.8075:

Bombsaway.7198:

I would have thought the passive ability should be a condition removal. Remember it has an internal cool down of 10 seconds and the enemy can kill a spirit.

So 2 conditions removed. ICD 10 seconds. 70% on chance to hit.

Remember, you can’t exactly pick WHEN the conditions get removed. It would be 2 because you it is 5 allies after all.

The active (on a 20 second timer) would still be the heal.

Would make rangers have some very important group utility.

That would be way too broken.

I’d say Staff Guardians already have broken down for condition removal. Staff #4, nuff said.

What does Staff 4 have to do with Condition removal…?

Bombsaway.7198:

I would have thought the passive ability should be a condition removal. Remember it has an internal cool down of 10 seconds and the enemy can kill a spirit.

So 2 conditions removed. ICD 10 seconds. 70% on chance to hit.

Remember, you can’t exactly pick WHEN the conditions get removed. It would be 2 because you it is 5 allies after all.

The active (on a 20 second timer) would still be the heal.

Would make rangers have some very important group utility.

That would be way too broken.

Exxcalibur.6203:

Players will also gravitate towards these kinds of simple mindless loot opportunities when they are in the game.

Unfortunately, this leaves many other engaging group events in the world untouched and other zones desolate.

While I applaud the players resilience for staying with such a dull manifestation of the game, I feel Anet should take an approach akin to paternalism* and remove the Queens zerg, in order to force change and diversity.

This may upset some players, who feel they should be able to play how they want to play, but sometimes the world demands an authority or organization to guide us gently towards perfection.

Who is with me?

NB:

**"Paternalism" comes from the Latin pater, meaning to act like a father, or to treat another person like a child, limiting some person or group’s liberty or autonomy for their own good.

I’m all for this idea, but the rage that would follow if this ever happens scares me; it probably scares ANet as well, which is why the Queensdale train is still alive and well.

I was honestly expecting to have class-specific finishers when the game went live.

Ascended crafting is the most boring and grindiest thing to ever hit this game.

Celestina.2894:

Flytrap.8075:

Hopefully new Elite skills will follow soon.

Three unique elites per class is far too few, especially when compared to how many options there were in GW1.

To be fair, GW1’s larger skill pool led to a lot more useless and redundant skills.

People seem to forget that whenever they compare GW1 and GW2 however.

No, I did not forget.

The redundancies in skill choice were largely due to Factions and Nightfall. The fact still remains that the original Guild Wars offered a much larger diversity of skill options, especially when it came to Elite skills.

Raven.9603:

etrigan.4213:

No one knows who BAGS is. Nor did you link the video.

Everyone who wvw’s on a regular basis knows who Bags is.

etrigan.4213:

Learn to count I see at best 30vs30.

Learn to read the post. I cannot fit all 50 of your bads in a single screenshot, as they were cowering on the opposing cliff deciding if they should jump in and die with their bad friends. dont be mad.

Raven, obviously Fort Aspenwood is the superior server. They can beat us 5v300 while cooking spaghetti blindfolded with one hand tied behind their back.

Nevermind the fact that they threw matches to join the Silver League, and ignore how close the matchup has been thus far despite their superior off-time coverage. We must admit defeat.

etrigan.4213:

Flytrap.8075:

etrigan.4213:

Prove it SBI show us your 10-15 man wiping our 50.

Make a video.

You can make up stories but can’t seem to make a video.

Bags already posted a video of this happening

No one knows who BAGS is. Nor did you link the video.

And what prestigious guild do you call home?

etrigan.4213:

Prove it SBI show us your 10-15 man wiping our 50.

Make a video.

You can make up stories but can’t seem to make a video.

Bags already posted a video of this happening

John Corpening.9847:

Hey All,

Thank you very much for your participation. I’ve just spent the past couple of hours reading through every post on this thread. There is a ton of great discussion going on.

The point of the CDI is not for us to talk about specifics about what we are working on but to open discussion with and between all of you. That said there are some pretty big misconceptions that are going around that I’d like to clear up.

First off, on Dec. 10th we are adding a new vendor that sells items for both glory and gold. Players will not be able to simply buy all the rewards with gold but will also need to use glory which amounts to time spent in PvP. This vendor is temporary until the next phase rolls out. It will be there so you can spend your glory before the new system comes into play. The new system inherently factors in time. We will discuss that system more when we are ready. As soon as we are able, we will let you know when the glory vendor will be removed.

Regarding new skills, PvP will continue to have all existing skills unlocked for players. Only new skills will require unlocks. The number of skills currently in the game can be intimidating for new players. We would like to allow them some time to learn the base set while they work towards unlocking the new skills.

Regarding gold rate, the rates chosen are based on what players can expect from average play in other areas of the game, not on farming rates. It is not our intent to make PvP a better place to farm but to make it about on par with what a typical player can expect in other areas of the game. Some of you have correctly noted that time spent in PvP doesn’t contain many of the gold sinks that PvE players experience and this has been factored in. We do want to encourage players who haven’t tried PvP to come give it a shot because they will continue to earn the rewards they get in other parts of the game. We don’t want people to feel this is where they must to go to maximize their rewards. We will adjust rates if we feel it is necessary.

Regarding exclusivity of skins. Since skins will be shared across the game PvP will be getting exclusive skins that require participation in PvP to obtain. These will be able to be carried over into all other areas of the game. I think this was a little unclear in the blog post.

There was some confusion about the achievement rebalancing. We split up some of the pools of points into additional tiers and we added more tiers on top of that. This is to allow players to get more regular achievement rewards. Your total achievement points may go up, they won’t go down and you should hit tiers more frequently than before.

This has been a great discussion thus far, thanks a bunch for your feedback. By far the most discussed topic on this thread has been the plan to remove ranks. So here are some questions for you.

Would you keep rank acquisition the same as it is now?

If not, what would you do to improve rank acquisition?

Thanks again!

John

Fantastic post. I think that quite a few of the naysayers are going to feel a lot better after reading what you just said

Hopefully new Elite skills will follow soon.

Three unique elites per class is far too few, especially when compared to how many options there were in GW1.

Josh Davis.6015:

From the blog:

Of course, rewards is just one aspect of the projects we’re working on over on the PvP team. We’ll go into detail with other projects like new game types as we get closer to having those further along in production.

The projects listed in the blog are not exhaustive – we’re working on other things simultaneously. As John mentioned, we’re still working on game modes and new maps. As Justin has mentioned in another post, we’re also looking at ways to drastically improve the quality of matchmaking. This includes harsher penalties for afk players and leavers.

You have to understand that it’s different from our perspective; you’re always “working” on upcoming features and content, yet it hardly turns out as advertised or gets released in a timely fashion.

Morrigan.2809:

you all seem to be referring to the December 10 update- I know it is Tuesday but just check your calendar
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-_-

ANet should take a page out of the GW1 Ranger’s book and make pets optional.

I mean, the Ranger’s class mechanic has been a big issue since the game was released, and it still is to this day. On top of having a lousy gimmick when compared to the other classes, they also have some subpar weapon sets and utility skills. When it’s all said and done, there are very limited scenarios where someone would say “I WANT A RANGER FOR THIS!” instead of any other class.

I personally love the flavor and the general idea behind the Ranger class, but it’s hard for me to commit the time needed to get mine to 80 since they’re really only successful in WvW as roamers and in sPvP. What I really want is for ANet to bite the bullet and admit that there is a major problem with one of their eight classes instead of pretending like everything is ok; the Ranger needs some hefty overhauls, and the new skills/traits that are supposed to come out in the near future might help, but that remains to be seen.

Proven.2854:

Honestly, this wouldn’t even be a problem if we had skins a bunch more skins that were exclusive to each PvP and PvE. Instead of having two paths to the same thing and people grinding their way through the path of least resistance, you’d instead have people using their special armor or weapon as a trophy for conquering a certain objective in a certain mode. Same issue with WvW and the fact that it needs something exclusive to it other than the Invader set.

The recent issue with the Flamekissed gem armor comes to mind.

A thousand times this.

gesho.9468:

i dont care that much about healing skill. but creating a viable healer build – that would be big.

No thanks.

Justin ODell.9517:

Proven.2854:

Honestly, this wouldn’t even be a problem if we had skins a bunch more skins that were exclusive to each PvP and PvE. Instead of having two paths to the same thing and people grinding their way through the path of least resistance, you’d instead have people using their special armor or weapon as a trophy for conquering a certain objective in a certain mode. Same issue with WvW and the fact that it needs something exclusive to it other than the Invader set.

The recent issue with the Flamekissed gem armor comes to mind.

If you want exclusive PvP gear then please, please, please, post that in the rewards discussion.

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We want exclusive PvP gear. Throw in more WvW sets while you’re at it.

What are you looking to do?

Zerg support? Commander build? Roaming?

I think a spirit weapon is the most likely to happen.

Dosvidaniya.3260:

I don’t understand where you guys are going.

I’m really concerned with the change to gold as pvp currency. Gold as a pvp reward is nice. Gold as the only pvp currency seems illogical. You have enough currencies in pve to bring down a pack mule and you think one is too many for pvp? With a shift to gold, you get the following.

• Anyone can buy levels. Is this intended? If so, I get it. But, I really am curious if you’re okay with it.
• A pvper has to spend gold to get new skills. (You must buy levels to get the skill points. IE: Antitoxin Spray would cost 25 levels). Seriously? If you’re going to make pvp’ers need XP. You’d better add it as a passive to the match. I don’t understand why pve gets xp for free and you make pvp exchange their rewards for it. If you want to leave us an option to buy them to power level an alt, I’m okay with that. That’s what people do with crafting anyways.
• Anyone can buy the pvp stuff. When you shift to gold, you’ve essentially opened it to everyone. You guys are even removing ranks so that you can’t even require people to play some matches first.

Rank removal.

• I like ranks. I know others don’t. Disregarding the farming debacles, ranks show an investment in pvp. I think they should be removed from the scoreboard. But, I think they should stick around. They give you something that lasts. WvW XP lasts. AP and luck bonuses last. Fractal levels last. Why get rid of the one lasting thing for pvp?

Lastly, can we get clarification of the following.

With this change, we will not only reward winning in PvP more than losing, but formats where the competition is higher will receive greater rewards.

Does this mean that higher placed leaderboard matches will scale rewards? Or is this some marketing speak saying “these changes will make rewards better for formats where the competition is higher!**”

Disclaimer: These changes may or may not happen. They are subject to change. Batteries not included. Some assembly required. Warranty void…

This guy knows what’s up.

By subbing glory out for gold, one can’t help but think that you’re just trying to monetize the sPvP scene. I personally think that any sPvP rewards should be earned solely through playing sPvP; I mean, I can’t WvW all day and then spend my tokens on dungeon armor, so why should PvE players be able to farm Living Story content and then come into Heart of the Mists and simply buy whatever they want? It just doesn’t seem right.

I also think that completely removing Ranks is a big mistake. As already mentioned, it’s a larger goal that you’re always working for; reaching that next Rank tier might not be in your immediate future, but it’s always awesome when you finally do get to it. I understand that you’re adding ladders in, but couldn’t Ranks stay as some sort of meta-achievement?

Tyrion.5764:

Someone its mad ^^ reality hurts right ? hahaha ^^ gogo SBI try harder please and stop the QQ

Sum won dusnt speek engrish vary goodly.

But how else would ANet make you pay through the nose?

SBI put up a good fight with an old-fashioned free for all.

Silas.8630:

Flytrap.8075:

Your posts are becoming ridiculous and don’t add anything to the discussion; you’re simply arguing for the sake of arguing.

Stormbluff Isle | [Bags]

Oh my. Mark your calendars ladies and gentlemen, the day a member of [Bags] accused someone else of trolling too hard ;-)

Adorable.

Who’s the one trolling now?

MisterEction.9382:

Silas.8630:

MisterEction.9382:

Your actual point is incorrect

There were three aspects to my original point, which you claim is “incorrect,” so we’ll address them each in turn.

Part 1: Anet can rollback the armors.
This one really isn’t open for debate. It’s technologically possible for them to reset the entire server to its previous state, to simply delete the armor from all players’ inventories, or take any of a myriad of measures that would all result in a game world without the new armor. To claim otherwise demonstrates a remarkable lack of understanding of the fundamental functions of electronic storage mediums and data manipulation in the modern era.

Part 2: Anet should rollback the armors.
This is a subjective opinion, and as such can be neither correct nor incorrect.

Part 3: Anet won’t rollback the armors.
This is perhaps the only third of my argument for which you might have a leg to stand on with regards to its validity. Although I can’t claim to know definitively what Anet will and will not do, I can employ a bit of abductive reasoning. Given what I know about the frequency with which people complain on the forums about patch changes (often) and the frequency with which Anet apologizes and reverses those changes (not often) I can hypothesize that the pattern will continue to hold true for this case. Anet may be able to prove me wrong here, but you certainly can’t and the fact that they have yet to make any public statement of intent and the armor is still available for purchase would seem to indicate that I’ve got the lead here as well.

MisterEction.9382:

and your attempt to mischaracterize your failure to include both aspects of the original poster’s intent (to adequately compensate those who purchased the flamekissed armor and roll back the armor itself) in your argument as some difficulty I had comprehending your argument is in bad taste.

I assume you’re referring to me addressing only the feasibility of rolling back the armor, rather than the issue of compensation. I didn’t feel the need to comment further on the finer points of a solution since you had already summarily dismissed the possibility that a solution even existed. I felt the basic premise of the argument was a more suitable place to start, rather than waste time on details that hinged on first disproving your initial statement. Care to rhetoric further?

Your argument is flawed and dishonest because you’re creating an artificial separation between two parts of the original poster’s thread. In order to be a valid point within the context of this thread, you need to address both compensating people who purchased the skin fairly and rolling back the armor. You aren’t doing both because you want to somehow win the thread rather than address the original post in a meaningful way. You’ve got the “lead” after all.

I’m engaging in honest discourse, what you’re doing, deliberately working outside the context of the original post and making indirect ad hominem attacks, is the kind of rhetoric you’re trying to assign to my posts. You’re attempting to use language to influence people in a way that isn’t honest or reasonable.

Your posts are becoming ridiculous and don’t add anything to the discussion; you’re simply arguing for the sake of arguing.

To stay on topic, I was initially shocked that ArenaNet would offer a skin that is essentially T3 Cultural armor in the gem store. I did end up buying said skin for my Human Mesmer, but I still feel conflicted on the issue in general. On one hand, it’s kind of cool that they’re being less restrictive on armor skins, but on the other, they’re destroying the very thing that makes Cultural Armor what it is.

I feel bad for the people who spent their time and gold farming up their T3 set only to have an equal-or-better alternative available in the Gem Store; I know I’d be irked if they made Norn cultural armor available to everyone.

There’s a fine line to walk on this issue, and I think that ArenaNet may have overstepped it…. I’m interested to see how they handle this issue, if at all. That being said, I still bought the skin and I intend on using it.

This is why everyone abandoned ship in August.

Devona’s Rest has been sinking for a long time now.

nikkistar.1409:

Maladon.5760:

I didn’t realize my statement had anything to do with YB.

Look, I know you guys are trying really hard to convince yourselves that you’re pulling this off without help. I understand the need for validation that you’re feeling. It’s just coming off a little defensive is all. Just take a step back, maybe get Ebay to fix you a snack and tuck you in for a nice refreshing nap and you’ll feel just fine when you wake up

And this is a prime example of why I respect EB a lot more than you guys.

The excuses are strong with this one. I know reading comprehension is not your strongest trait, but let me dumb it down a little for you. The excuses you have come up with, effect ALL servers, not just your own. I can agree that EB and YB are strategically ganging up on SBI. It’s happening. But all the other excuses, are just that, excuses. I guess you fail to understand that.

So, since it’s obvious from the umadbro statement here, you need more bacon in your life.

Affect.

TLDR: My server is better than your server.

GabGar.4962:

Radioactive.1248:

I actually don’t mind YB players being happy about their performance this week, but I’d like them to keep in mind that it’s not a result of anything they are doing internally but rather what they are doing via map politics with Ebay. Map politics and 2v1s are part of the game, and if you want to do them to win it’s completely understandable. If you guys got the organization to pull off a consistent 2v1 you should do it and you’ve done it well, but don’t pat yourselves on the back for beating us and saying how much your server has improved when at the end of the day you are just a bunch of 2v1 tower huggers, and when you dare to come out of your tower it’s in blobs of 50-60 “guild groups” (I’m looking at you [One]/]SE]).

Says the server specialized in 1 blob zerg in every map and nothing else… Oh the irony…

I just spent the whole night following and then commanding in EBG, we are winning because our dedication and organization to beat the kitten out of SBI, period.

Every server blobs; it’s just ridiculous when other servers act as if they only run havoc teams and small roaming parties.

I’ve been pretty much exclusively zerg-busting the past few days, and let me tell you, EB and YB zergs are not in short supply.

This happened to me once earlier today in WvW for a few seconds, and just now while doing a Champion train.

Tibstrike.2974:

Flytrap.8075:

Tibstrike.2974:

mariemystar.8296:

is there a problem with 20v20 or 25v25?

Most guilds GvG 15v15/20v20 on GW2GvG.com but I’ve seen matches of 25v25 posted up there too.

I don’t see what the deal is.

Don’t let the hate get to you. BAGS just likes the trolling. They prefer 10v10s or 5v5s because they have no friends.

Not sure how what I said can be perceived as trolling, but alright. As already mentioned, most SBI guilds would have a hard time fielding 20 people.

Regardless, I can see that you’re still upset over your loss to Bags/DDLG. Don’t worry, time heals all wounds and practice makes perfect

Nah, it was a good learning experience. I was just being trolly. Our GvG just taught us that when you expect to fight one guild, sometimes another guild will take their place. Is DDLG around anymore? Cuz I miss their stun fields and choke points.

Yes and no.

DDLG still exists, but basically every Bags member quit.

Tibstrike.2974:

mariemystar.8296:

is there a problem with 20v20 or 25v25?

Most guilds GvG 15v15/20v20 on GW2GvG.com but I’ve seen matches of 25v25 posted up there too.

I don’t see what the deal is.

Don’t let the hate get to you. BAGS just likes the trolling. They prefer 10v10s or 5v5s because they have no friends.

Not sure how what I said can be perceived as trolling, but alright. As already mentioned, most SBI guilds would have a hard time fielding 20 people.

Regardless, I can see that you’re still upset over your loss to Bags/DDLG. Don’t worry, time heals all wounds and practice makes perfect