Guild Wars 2

No: except some instabilities, the difficulty is easier.

You all get it backwards. You get so few gold in order to keep the team together, because if you get like 5g for a run, you will see kicks happening and people selling fractal runs.

Not convincing? Ok, I tried. Maybe I’ll find a better reason next time.

Paradox.5498:

Talindra.4958:

Done it yesterday with 2 guards 2 warriors 1 ele. But only at lvl 31 or something. Its a good fix. but the respawn of dredge should be make slightly longer say 5 more secs

Oh the irony… 2 guards + 2 warriors survived it so it’s a good fix. Whatever happened to “bring the profession you want”?

They said “you can play with any profession you want”, not “you can succeed with any profession you want”.

Well, this thread has 17 pages and only 1 dev post saying “please stay calm”… Not really sure that they care about our issue either.

We have the most wonderful of compensation: we get to play 19 carebear levels. Isn’t this great?

haviz.1340:

Carighan.6758:

The “19 levels you lost” are not the same levels any more.
19 levels which you already ran are now inaccessible. Due to the Mistlock Instability, the new 19 levels aren’t quite comparable.

True, they are even more faceroll.

This time 1000 from what I read everywhere.

This is known amongst long-time fractal runners. Always kill the Maw after the second agony hit.

Kal Spiro.9745:

This is the definition of Equity

eq·ui·ty
/?ekwit?/
noun

noun: equity
1. the quality of being fair and impartial.
“equity of treatment”
synonyms: fairness, justness, impartiality, egalitarianism;
objectivity, balance, open-mindedness

•Law
a branch of law that developed alongside common law in order to remedy some of its defects in fairness and justice, formerly administered in special courts.

•(in the US, UK, and several other countries) a trade union to which most professional actors belong.

singular proper noun: Equity; noun: Equity
2. the value of the shares issued by a company.
“he owns 62% of the group’s equity”
synonyms: value, worth;
ownership, rights, proprietorship
“he owns 25% of the equity in the property”

•stocks and shares that carry no fixed interest.
plural noun: equities

3.the value of a mortgaged property after deduction of charges against it.

Which version of this corresponds to the apparent loss of Equity mentioned through this thread?

When we speak about equity, we refer to it as defined here: http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/RaminShokrizade/20130531/193353/The_Barrier_to_Big.php

Hey, some items in item_details.json return “Unknown” as their “consumable_type” or “unlock_type”.

Specifically, I mean the following two:
36518 (“Limited-Use Gift Finisher”, returns “Unknown” as “unlock_type”)
8472 (“Transmutation Splitter”, returns “Unknown” as “consumable”.“type”)

I don’t have time to extract all the other items right now, but could you see that they return an appropriate value?

We see on TP only if it has been put on the TP or in the bank. They already stated this in the past.

Faedrivin.5382:

In fact that on dulfy is just “max of +11” because no player yet crafted a better one.

Oh, my mistake then ^^

This kind of thread has been posted already several times.

I still sign it as it’s important!

According to the data mined, +11 is the current maximum.

http://dulfy.net/2013/11/26/gw2-chat-codes

Well, rT requires some strong demonstration of skills. Examples being soloing Lupi or mobs in high level fractals. When Sanderinoa will post, you’ll see the actual requirements in his sig

Granted the requirement is not being able to solo Lupicus, but I’d bet this is the most commonly met.

Yes they do exist.

Good to have this kind of thread. Thanks!

Yeah, so things that we don’t consider as bugs.

ArmoredVehicle.2849:

All ANet cares about is […] closing bugs.

Not really sure about that…

Yeah, I see the formula more like (2^n)-1 rather than whatever formula you used, Ignavia. I haven’t completely checked the maths, but Carighan seems really on the right track.

I think their current implementation is one of the few things they didn’t mess with in this patch.

The current implementation being, according to Dulfy,

• Fractal 1: Underwater, Swamp, Urban Battleground, Uncategorized
• Fractal 2: Uncategorized, Snowblind, Urban Battleground, Molten Furnace, Cliffside
• Fractal 3: Aetherblade, Grawl, Thaumanova Reactor, Dredge, Cliffside.
• Boss Fractal: Jade Maw, Molten Berserker & Dredge Firestorm, Mai Trin & Captain Horrik

Though I foresee that Uncategorized will be rerolled if seen as first.

You are sure to not get Grawl and Dredge! You can still get Cliffside and dredge or Cliffside and Grawl, but that’s about it. As I said, I can’t play currently, so I don’t know how the two new boss fractals are positioned on the difficulty scale, but I See this as an improvement already.

yeah, 30 didn’t have one. Making it 31 to get the first, making 49 to get the last one, making 50 without any (?)

Razor.6392:

How do you have a job?

Really? Do you know how it’s difficult to live without a job? You probably are still being cared for by being a teenage or by studying, not having to spend any dollar that you earned. Yes, I categorized you but I won’t judge you because hey, I know what it means to be cared for because I’ve been a teenage and I’ve been studying. I’ve also been workless and I’ve also been paying for things with money I earned working. So actually without judging you, I’m sad for you that you haven’t matured enough yet. I hope it will come soon so people won’t have to suffer from this kind of remarks from you. :-)

Only one of the thread says the whole fractal run is too long. The other two complain about individual fractals. Also, if you tell me to read, I invite you to read my initial reply so you can stop your nitpicking. Finally, one thread every X months isn’t a real problem. Unlike the TA F/U problem which laed the dungeon forum to be flooded of those, for instance.

So I repeat, it’s not a real problem. A very small amount of players want less than 4 fractals. A lot more of players want the dredge fractal shortened.

Zanshin, the quote you took is not about it being long, but about it being 3-4 in a row. All your references speak about the dredge fractal only.

Yeah, level 50. What about level 51 ?

People with 55 AR pre patch still have 55 AR (well, I assume, according to what I read, as I can’t play currently because of hardware issue)… They said they reduced AR required for 30-50…
Translation: you’re safe with 55 AR

Nick.6972:

Did they fix mesmer portal in Harpie/Asura fractal? Just wondering.

They fixed one of the several ways… So the correct answer is “no, they didn’t fix it”

few days? People are already playing 41-42.

It’s been like that for a whole year now and people actually like it (since it’s the first time I read this in about a year and people tend to repeat what they don’t like over time). So well, you seem quite isolated.

Regarding your issue itself, I understand it, but i don’t agree with it. Fractals are mini dungeons. Fractals don’t ask you to play a complete dungeon, but only a sequence of small dungeons.

I also understand that you want to play the fractal you want in the “tier”. If everybody would do that, no one would ever play dredge again. The current implementation is not a bad thing as it forces you to play some fractals no matter what. You don’t like it? Well, restart and hope for the better, but making sure that each fractal is played actually makes you better since you learn the new mechanics.

The dredge fractal and the volcano one are difficult fractals and I’m really happy they are in the game as I get challenge. If you played dredges in level 48 and got the bomb path, man… you’d understand the pain we were through… but also, we got experience from the 47 previous fractals we played.

So just bear with it and if you like fractals enough to play for one year, you’ll eventually appreciate the dredge fractal for what it is. Note that I didn’t say “like it”

Also, if you could choose all your levels, everybody would be playing something like:
- Swamp
- Snowblind/Ascalon
- Not Dredge!
- Maw
This would be ridiculously easy

Indeed, people are already at 40.

It will be online when more data has been gathered.

1. Scarlett did it
2. Fractals since the patch
3. Non-exclusive T3 cultural armor
4. Fractured
5. Exponential Agony Resistance acquisition

Wait what??? All those in this patch? There must be something wrong with it, isn’kitten

Wethospu.6437:

On topic, I still fail to see why we actually had to be reseted without any compensation.

Because LEADERBOARDS! Oh wait… they’re not here yet…

About compensation? You get the mossman to hunt you in fractals. Ain’t this cool?

Hey, they always said they were “gathering feedback”. They never said they’d
- read it
- use it
- act upon it
- reply to it

Armor: none, they were naked :p

This is actually te new soft cap, like maw’s huge agony pre patch.

Moshari.8570:

Fror.2163:

Taking the example for 39, how is exploding corpse relevant when we skip more than half the mobs on our paths? This will only force more people to skip more mobs.

You obviously haven’t done many fractals. Most mobs in fractals can’t be skipped. The vast majority you have to fight. Even in Ascalon, or Dredge, or Cliffside, you fight most of the mobs and skip maybe 10% if you are lucky. Youre thinking dungeons like COF and COE where you just run through all the mobs all the time and only fight the boss’s. Most fractals have mechanics to prevent you from doing that.

Hmmm… No. Simply no.

No because you are not in my head, you obviously cannot know what I think.
No also because I’m a dedicated fractal player as I’m currently level 49 for a few more hours and I play between 1 and 2 fractal runs a day (48 & 30+)

Did I say anywhere that we skip all the mobs? No again.

So please, could you understand what I wrote rather than obviously over-reading my post with its obvious (slight) exageration?

Thank you!

@EnemyCrusher: give him a break. English is not his main language and there’s no official support in Russian, so he does his best. Since your brain seems to be in off mode, here’s some help.

Forkada.8376:

The release will be broken anyways with 10,000 exploits in the fractals. So I don’t care about the excuse you give.

JMar.3254:

Romo.3709:

JMar.3254:

Yeah, I agree. Their response was pretty horrid.

“New instabilities start at 30 so we figured that was a good start” or something like that. Nothing even remotely apologetic or sympathetic.

My guess is the average developer fotm level is 20-30, so they choose 30.

You can get that from their responses. “Now keep in mind they’re at level 39 right now, so it’s actually really hard.” I was just laughing and crying at the same time…

Hahaha, Hey now! 39 is really hard if you’re a thief in mismatched gear (zerk thieves are 11k hp right? Not 13k hp) with one weapon set and no trinkets.

That delicious vitality will stop all those AR ticks /s

The dev had:
- 2273 power (buffed)
- 1650 prec => 39% crit chance
- 1108 toughness => 2098 armor
- 1108 vitality => 12725 hit points
- 199 healing power
- 15% steal recharge rate (meaning 15 in Trickery)
- 30% in condition duration (meaning probably 30 in Deadly Arts)
- 0% in Boon Duration (meaning 0 in Acrobatics)
- 945 condition damage (buffed)
- 75% crit damage

Now you can extrapolate his gear and likely build. I’d say it would have been something like 30/10+X/15-X/0/15 with a mix of damage and conditions with a few “survival” gear giving the extra toughness and vitality.

JMar.3254:

My guess is the average developer fotm level is 20-30, so they choose 30.

Did you mean “highest”?

Kresa.1859:

First of all (and thank god to it!) fractals got many boss fights that cant be meleed ( or cant be fully meleed) and there ranged dps classes become handy.

Which one?
Aquatic? meleed
Cliffside? meleed
Snowblind? meleed
Solid Ocean? tentacles and colossi are meleed, the rest of the time, we’re idle.
Swampland? meleed (I still have troubles with Mossman, but it’s ok)
Uncategorized? meleed
Underground Facility? meleed (but not with pugs)
Urban battleground? Granted, I still prefer to range it after the first agony burst.
Volcanic? meleed (but not with pugs)

I only mean the end fractal bosses. So I definitely wouldn’t say “many” bosses. If you want to include sub-bosses, every single one of them is meleed.

It’s because he had already 1000 agony on the rings and back. Look at the screenshot: 51 Agony Resistance with no accessories… So he had already all the AR he wanted and the stats aren’t really important. Everybody knows that.

lordkrall.7241:

Fror.2163:

The only instability we saw so far is a real joke. That is no challenge. It might be annoying in the dredge fractal because we kill so many and in cliffside because we’re forced to camp at some points, but challenging? Never.

It was also one of the first, so one can assume it is also one of the easiest.

One of the first? 1…9…19 It’s not one of the easiest, it should be of medium difficulty. This is not medium difficulty, this is easy. Plus this specific instability forces people to skip…

The only instability we saw so far is a real joke. That is no challenge. It might be annoying in the dredge fractal because we kill so many and in cliffside because we’re forced to camp at some points, but challenging? Never.

Taking the example for 39, how is exploding corpse relevant when we skip more than half the mobs on our paths? This will only force more people to skip more mobs.

There are the words and there is the spirit of the words. You didn’t focus on the latter at all.

Thanksgiving isn’t a holiday in Europe. Anywhere. Look at the WP entry.

Now this being said, there are not many NA guys on EU servers. But those are usually active because they have good reasons to be invested in the game in EU rather than in NA. And given the long Thanksgiving week-end in the US, the US guys will play more and there is a chance for them to make it to level 50 before European (or rest of the world).

I’m don’t even really care about leaderboards. I accept that it is present, but I’d find it ridiculous that because of the timing, the EU leaderboard would be thrusted by NA guys (because holidays because Thanksgiving).

Not sure if serious or trolling so I’ll assume serious.

EU or even non-American people have no Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving is purely an American celebration.

Asia Skyly.7198:

JMar.3254:

Starting at 31. 19 instabilities will mean the last one falls on 49.

Well that makes no sense. What do we do at 50??

You find the easiest instability above 45 and you spam that level for rewards.

Looks like I made some more connections than you in my head before posting this: EU has quite a number of US players on their servers, making this even more ironic than what you initially thought. EU leaderboard will be composed of US players!

Well, since it’s Thanksgiving, Europe is thanking you for installing this implementation of leaderboard right before Thanksgiving.