Guild Wars 2

It’ll be interesting to see what status all 4 of the servers in Quad get assigned in the coming weeks.

Servers like DH were locked out during the last pair because of this, and likely would’ve had the same restrictions this go around along with SF and possibly Ebay and CD. Good news for some, better news for others.

I only need 2 pieces of Stalwart and the track offers Obi and clovers \0/ win! Why no Heavy armor skins though? Not that I’m complaining, just noticed none of the 3 are for heavies.

Pair T2 with T1 next go around. Come on Anet do all of us dead tier servers a solid. Besides, that’s where the 75% that wanted pairs lives, do eet, they voted!

That’s a tough call. Rotating works, but 2/1 would be interesting. Unfortunately, 2/1 means if there’s a problem that needs fixing, everyone gets kicked for an unspecified amount of time.

We have 2 months of our current pairings/partners (SF/FC/GOM – roommates for 2 months). We have 1 week matches. Whether or not we get a new server in T4 depends on how badly the quad beats us, it could switch this week, it may not switch for 2 months.

After surviving HOD/Ebay prime time numbers, hoping and wishing for a new match soon, 3 days into soon, I have to say:
1) I miss HOD/Ebay
2) I’m glad 3 months didn’t win the poll
3) Dead tiers lolz

You get karma from those events, everyone needs more karma! Besides, it’s a daily sometimes, why take away an easy daily that brings in new people?

I know I couldn’t get supply from citadel when SF was paired with NSP, I just assumed when BL Razor went away, so did the supply, evendors though the stack was still there. I’ll try again now that SF is technically a host, but, even if it works and that’s the system, it’s broken. Regardless if you’re a guest, you should still be able to get supplies from your spawn, even if it’s not your named server spawn.

Given the right skills and another mes friend or 3, 5 mins isn’t that long.

Have any of the other tiers considered an end of the week peace treaty / going away celebration?

It doesnt matter, the host lineup will change Friday, and the partners will of course have to change, but T4 will still be the same locked match for the next 2 months.

Short of giving HOD a really low pop partner (if they even exist anymore), and the certainty that this new host and their former host are going to double team NSP nonstop, I don’t see see anything changing for T4 over the next 2 months except maybe NSP getting knocked out of host status and DH moving back up.

I had to hunt for it, but this list gave a pretty insightful picture of the rise and fall of this mode. No doubt it needs to be expanded to include the last 3 months https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/WvW-Timeline-Situation-Explained/first#post6085890

Come on! You want to trade up skirt shots and 4 outstretched char Paws falling off garri vista for gliding? There’s no comparison, falling is way better.

The rangers would be oiling their bows hourly and the provisioner would constantly be out of stock on regular ballis.

DBL is supposed to be coming back with the next relinking. So, you’ll have a map that alot of people don’t like and be paired with teamates that are probably enemies this week. It’s going to be interesting to say the least.

I still vote for an ability line that allows auto deploy stealth traps. You know, for those thieves that let you “walk away”. So in the process of walking away you can throw the trap anywhere rather than stopping to build it for 3 secs while the thief watches and knows exactly where not to step.

Some would say its questions like this that got 24 Servers reduced to 12, and as we learned, it really doesn’t matter what just anyone thinks, it only matters what 75% think. So, if 75% think wvw is too big, then I guess it is.

Orpheal.8263:

HazyDaisy.4107:

Did you know….before account wardrobe and salvage changes. you could salvage Rox’s Bow. Not too long ago, I had to buy invisible bags so my spare asc weapons wouldn’t show up as sellable when I visited a merchant.

Did you also know that if you happen to salvage Rox’s bow, the only way to get it back was to wait for it to be offered again on the TP.

Im not saying auto sell and auto salvage isn’t a good idea, I’m saying think about all the potential for customer error and the backlog of support tickets.

Do you always want a game to stop becoming better for the majority of players in regard of clearly adding useful mechanics that would massively reduce the clicking spam in this game, because of the stupidity of some single individuals that are too incompetent to look first what they do, before they do something /facepalm????

PS. also as it has been said, such functions can be easily designed to get programable in such a way, that they automaticalyl do somethign for you also only, when you have chosen specific things in the game first to be affected at al by the automatics, by simple activatign/deactivatign via check box, if somethign should get auto sold/salvaged for you, or not.

So if you just want to make sure that somethign doesnt get accidently auto salvaged/sol,d you simply must not check the box to activate the automatics for the items that you don#t want to see gettign auto sold/salvaged.

Add with this also a Reset Function in the Options menu that when you click it, automatically resets all your active automatics to deactive, so that you have to setup manually again first, which items should get specificly affected by the automatics.
This way would players have a quick way to make sure, that nothing gets automatically done without that the player wants it, when there is a way where the player can reset all automatics with 1 single click from the options menu.

:) I never said that I was the one that accidentally salvaged that item, I said it was possible to do it at one time and there was no recourse to the error, and with functionality like this, the “stupidy” of everyone could increase 10 fold.

Did you know….before account wardrobe and salvage changes. you could salvage Rox’s Bow. Not too long ago, I had to buy invisible bags so my spare asc weapons wouldn’t show up as sellable when I visited a merchant.

Did you also know that if you happen to salvage Rox’s bow, the only way to get it back was to wait for it to be offered again on the TP.

Im not saying auto sell and auto salvage isn’t a good idea, I’m saying think about all the potential for customer error and the backlog of support tickets.

I sat through 3 AB meta starts before I got mine. After the first hour, someone else came along, helped me kill the smokescales for about 10 mins and said they got the claw. 2 hours into it, my friend came and helped, he got the claw after the third kill.

This happened around January, I’m suprised the RNG is still that bad.

I accidently ended up with an extra frozen fish trophy item from a heart in Frostgorge Sound once. Since then, I’ve gone out of my way to get one on all my other characters only failing once. So when someone asks a question, I can ping [Frozen Fish]! My fiance even got in on it too and that 1 inventory space is well worth it

apharma.3741:

Bogomil.6180:

Well i dont say there arent players hit by this change. But most of the players complaining come frome pve and they have earned wvw badges only through ap chests. And when u have about 10k ap you only had to enter wvw to claim their gob. And for these players i dont feel pity, like they dont do for me having to do exploration/dungeons (before the reward tracks)

Well this is a wide sweeping generalization if ever I saw one.

I do PvE and WvW in varying amounts over the week, some nights I spend all evening in WvW, some nights I spend mostly in PvE. I’d say I’ve spent thousands of hours already in WvW and more than earned my gift of battle over the last 2.5 years.

For me I now have to do this reward track whenever I need the gift of battle rather than popping to the vendor and simply buying it. I have more than paid my dues and want to go play the game and get things on my terms, my schedule and when I want it rather than it being changed for no reason at all to a system that requires me to grind out a reward track. That’s without mentioning the other junk you get from the reward track you don’t want…

For reference I’m rank 1500+ not someone who does WvW just because I have to for the gift.

Edit: @HazyDaisy, there’s a difference between running a dungeon 5 times (each path takes maybe 15mins) and having to spend 4-5 hours doing something. Sure if dungeon paths were all like Arah P4 then your analogy would hold but they aren’t, they’re easily done in a fraction of the time.

I know alot of people see dungeons, raids and other PVE content as quick and easy, but understand alot of others don’t. It’s the same argument as a wvwer telling a pver how quick and easy reward tracks are.

As a wvw rank 1500+ myself (who bought 7 GoBs the DAY I read that obscure line in the notes and warned BL map chat several times that week to look into it), I was simply saying not all content is easy or fun for everyone. Sure, us wvwers could go the too bad, so sad route lIke “the pvers” have done before. But, as we’ve learned time and again, nothing lasts forever, and later in the year is actually 2 weeks from now, and none of this is kitten versus them issue. So, if Anet decided to make a minor change next week (like banishing the dungeon NPC to the end chest, forcing you to run the dungeon to be able to purchase dungeon stuff that you already have currecy for) there would be some that had no problem with it, but you better believe there’d be some miffed souls out there. Just something to think about.

Spiking is always preferable, but sometimes I’ll choose to beat someone to death if they irritate me. Like you were squirreling, warping and blinking all over the place before and after you were downed (mesmers, thieves and eles), you hit me with lightning when I went to spike you (rangers – warning: I may kill your pet first just for spite, and since pets and minion are combative, I believe they should have seperate kill points, maybe an achievement associated with them), and finally my personal favorite, you vengenced, ok, so I don’t have to beat you to death there, just take a few steps backwards and wait. But that’s just me.

I started trying to think about this issue from a If the shoe was on the other foot standpoint. Not that it hasn’t been on the other foot at times, but let’s think about it none the less.

You can now earn dungeon tokens via reward tracks in WvW to spend at the LA dungeon vendor right. What if there was no LA vendor? What if he only spawned at the end of a dungeon path?

So, there you are, you’ve gotten your tokens from wvw reward tracks, but you still have to do a dungeon to spend them. It’s pretty messed up when you think about it.

I don’t know why anyone that disliked wvw would sit on badges, especially if they had enough to purchase GoB, inventory space was brought up, but its not my call to say what they should have done.

All I know, is if after 3 years of almost completely ignoring dungeons because I didn’t like them, but managing to gather those tokens via the kindness of Anet anyway, then suddenly having my vendor taken away and being told I have to run the content anyway, I’d be a little peeved. I mean, it’s doable, but still a pain.

Now they need to add wvw exploration back as a requirement for world completion and our plot to take over the world will be complete.

I myself probably wouldn’t have seen it in those patch notes, but Dulfys summary was much better at making it pop out. I tried to spread the word in map chat, purchased a few for badges for future use and eventually forgot about it.

They mentioned at the start of beta that they would remove the gift of battle vendors and add it to the reward tracks once they were out of beta.

CMM.6712:

Engi is my main and I haven’t really had an issue. This thread reminds me of a Russian(?) singer with a song with no words.

I prefer horses with no names.

Zain.4987:

Heibi.4251:

I just don’t like the idea of an Admin for the whole kittening game using his/her Admin gained privileges to influence the outcome of the game. Like I have said, and apparently haven’t read a word of it, ANeT reps should remain impartial. And claiming objectives as an ANeT rep is not impartial.

What admin gained privileges are they using to influence matches? Anet claiming objectives like every other player/guild is able to, does not influence a mach at all. Not sure if you’ve noticed but Anet claiming things for NSP/SF hasn’t helped them much since they have come in second to HoD/Ebay 3 – 4 in a row now.

HoD has won every T4 match so far, in fact the only match they haven’t won since merger is their first one when they were in a T3 match. Having the biggest server campaign on the smallest servers complaint thread against the middle server may look heroic. But trying to complain about one claim from the middle server when the biggest server bum rushed the smallest servers T3 ebg keep last night and many nights before with 40+ really leaves the HoD campaign with no legs to stand on. Your whole pairing right now is match manipulation, because your partner isn’t ranked below 12th according to Anet. But yet somehow that’s fair, and Anet claiming a tower isnt? Give me a break!

Give me a break Anet guild has been claiming things everywhere for weeks now, no different than any other guild on any server, just that they don’t all play on the same server. The week before merge Anet claimed WC for BP (I have it on video), of course BP lost that week, ergo Anet claiming stuff for a server doesn’t make a bit of difference how the server does in the match.

It’s not unusual to have abysmal luck gathering those parts from pods, at least in my experience. Of the 6 I did, I opened atleast 40 pods every time trying for the part, luckily I did Glints shield and Yggdrasil, so I only had to gather 4 parts for those 6 weapons. Dark Harvest (my 1st collection) I believe was the one that cost me atleast 100 machetes and Glints (my last collection) was the cheapest as I happen to catch a squad from 1 map into what would turn out to be a successful map and got it from the final chest. Just out of curiousity, you say you’re going for Bo, are you using a thief to open the pods? I seemed to have better luck using the weapons intended class for gathering, it also seemed to be a better probability of drop when that was the only collection open and the only item I needed in the collection, meaning everything else was good to go (asc weapon collection wise and machine collection wise) and I’d get the asc weapon with the weapon part drop.

It’s weird, under the 24 server system a server was considered dead if they were in 22-24. Now, if the server is straddling Host/Guest status they are dead.

I remember DH folks complaining the server was dead at the beginning of this year when they were in 13th-14th place. Then practically the next week, they turned around and beat 2 T5 servers by 500k and broke the highest weekly score at that time. It was short lived, but that week pushed DH into T3. That week and weeks before (when you were dead) you guys tower sat/spawn camped, popped orange for 5 enemies all that bad stuff that is, some would say, getting repaid now. I mean who ever said there are no wvw grudges? I’m not saying I don’t feel for you, but I do understand why it’s being done. I also understand why DH was locked after pairs and NSP wasn’t and why (atleast for DH and NSP) T4 got the pairings they did. While NSP welcomed SF folks, apparently DH wasn’t as courteous to their guests. Let’s hope the toxic talk doesn’t remain when DH is a guest, because at that point it’d be only the ones that chose to stay, not the ones that were there when the label was assigned.

Spirit shards to get Bloodstone shard, spirit shards + Obi to forge clovers…..base amount of Obi needed to make the legendary. Start (if you haven’t already) looking at ways to gather Obi, because that IMO is far more tedious and has fewer ways to gain than spirit shards.

Vayne.8563:

It’s not as bad as when WvW was part of world complete

^^^ Imagine having to wait 2 months for an opportunity to get ONE last POI and Vista in Green Garri for Been There Done That. It happened and it was awful.

While I agree that the POI you’re referring to can be problematic, it’s not nearly as bad as the Hero Point Anet relocated because it interfered with peoples map completion. Even still, that POI is easier to obtain in some peoples eyes compared to the one you have to do like 7 chapters of the story to access (unless they nerfed that as well).

A little analysis for those still weighing the options. We are currently in the 8th week of pairings. 1-1/2 months, alittle over a one month pairing option, the half way mark of a 3 month pairing and a quarter of the way through a 6 month pairing option.

Think about your matchups thus far and vote.

Loosmaster.8263:

I don’t know if it’s possible but I feel this poll should have been restricted to the linked servers voting on their fate, not the host worlds. Just a thought.

+1 For the hamburger patties!

If relinking happened this week, and we kept the 12 server host system, we’d most likely see the first guest / host swap in DH and Ebay. Where by Ebay becomes a host and DH becomes a guest.

It seems (atleast for the time being) if your server is 13th, there’s a very good chance you’ll see some flipping between host and guest, IF you can maintain your position before re-pairing. As for the servers below 13th, it doesn’t look very likely anytime soon. But honestly, it’s anyone’s guess how it works until it actually happens the first time.

As far as how your server reaches 13th place? It was tough before, and seems to be 10xs as hard now.

Actual deletion incoming or relinking soon, we’ll see. Either way, thanks for opening up the servers that weren’t full.

If condition damage alone cant or isnt supposed crit what’s the point of adding precision in with any pure condi stats. Rabid is the real problem here, not dire, get rid of rabid. Give everyone the option of true dire trinkets, or instead of the +18 precision 4 Stat laurel ones, change it to +18 condi duration instead (ie trailblazers), that’ll fix the balance issue for those silly plex mesmers and give the power crowd something new to complain about.

JDjitsu.7895:

misterman.1530:

Yup. Am on NSP. Just can’t face off against HoD anymore. The blobfest is getting so, so dull. The SEA guilds kill us at night.

Yeah, as much as I like the ‘reward track’ I can’t see myself getting into WvW as much for the next while, or even onto GW2 at all.

Time for a break.

I’m guessing you don’t play NA timezone with your SEA comment and that you think HoD is the blobby server out of the three…NSP can pop 2 sets of OJs on a BL no problem. I see it every afternoon/night I play. I’m willing to bet you don’t see outnumbered buff on your BL and EB on reset? DH does. I’d kill for your numbers. NSP has legions of ppl compared to DH and a bit more than HoD. Scorewise you’d do better if your guilds didn’t voltron up and nuthug, you could cover more of the map(s).

This matchup is beyond boring for guilds looking to fight other solo guild groups. That’s mostly why DH has been hemorrhaging guilds and vets. My guild who raids with 15ish can’t find many fights with another guild without them popping OJs. I’ve seen only 1 guild group on NSP that doesn’t constantly nuthug([noob] guild I think it is). I guessing they’re the only guild with closed raids? Talk about boring matchups. YAWN. I’m definitely glad I bought Overwatch and have 2 other GW2 accts. PvP and WvW are dead in GW2. Most of the pros and streamers are off to Overwatch. It’s too bad really, because GW2 combat had sooooo much potential.

Nsp/SF has a bit more people than HoD/Ebay? What?

https://leaderboards.guildwars2.com/en/na/wvw
Check it out! Ebay in 12 place, last week and the week before they were ranked 11th. Meaning, pretty much the entirety of paired matches we’ve been fighting a pair of 2 hosts, one of which is still open to transfers right now! So, yeah, they’ve got more numbers than anyone in the T4 match.

Regardless of how the guests or the hosts felt about the initial linking, it’s over and done with, we lost/we won whatever side you’re on its done. But, its still seperate, and shuffling large groups of people according to whatever schedule Anet decides now is their right, but, it’s not right! People are going to eventually get tired of it, if they aren’t already.

I’d submitted to the reality that my server is now only represented with a + sign and a salt forum signature. I’ve also accepted the fact that most of the 12 guest servers will likely never be a host. But, how much more submitting is there for us guests? A little over a month in and still no stability! Those of us that are scheduled to be shuffled whenever and eventually those that have a named home will crack.

When you look at the cold, hard, facts, Anet did the right thing by cutting the amount of servers, we did not need 24 NA servers. What they failed to do was give us definitive answers about our future, they also cut too many servers. They’ve lumped former enemies together and let or forced (in some cases) for us to become friends – a team! Soon, they’ll split us apart again. How is that better for anyone? Hosts not knowing who they’re getting, guests not knowing where they’re going, a good portion of the population being moved around like bacon on a frying pan and really no incentive for the bacon to fight to build something they won’t be apart of in a few weeks.

Like I said, I’ve submitted to the fact that my server isn’t represented while I’m in wvw, and I’ll continue to fight as long as I can, without an apparent purpose. But, for those on the named servers that disagree with the “give us a name crowd”…think long and hard about putting them/us in our place now, we may be paired with you one day, and whether or not we fight with you all depends on you treat us throughout this process.

Blade Of Gandara.6738:

Aeolus.3615:

Blade Of Gandara.6738, blade how can a server with that many players rise once to 10 and then most of time spend on the last tiers before the linkage????

it was not the linkage, players just stop playing or moved to another server, and your server got relinked due low active population on WvW.

Blade Of Gandara.6738@ got to http://mos.millenium.org and just observ where your server spend most of time.

Just re-organize with the actual WvW you have… many servers did that.

we had thousands of players way before expansion came out… we got to rank 10 those times…
everyone started to leave and quit because everyone argueing to each other in TS or map chat.. so we fell down to last tier

we were rank 15 when world- link happened..
around this times we are very less but still enough to be called “thousands” having several guilds on 500 members 400 and 300 etc etc… (i know cause i use my 5 guild slots to join 5 Devonas guilds)
we gained new friends.. new allies to play with.. but the dream did not last long.. we had our chance again to get up to rank 10 again but anet said no…

like i said we were rising up… then anet decided to kill it and do this world link event…

To correct, DR was actually 17th that last week before pairs. I know that because I’m on the 15th place server that was fighting against you all that week. Because of the overwhelming (nay record breaking) victory the week before against 2 dead servers, DR did in fact move up…1 slot, from 18th to 17th, but didn’t beat SF (that didnt have thousands of players) that last week, so you stayed in 17th before pairs.

Long story short, if you had thousands of people that last week, and couldn’t win the match, it would’ve been a while before you would’ve been able to make it to, much less compete in the tiers that did actually have thousands of people as a stand alone server.

We just need a T5 for those that prefer smaller scale. I’m done with the server identy issue, truth is most of those deleted servers were more transfers than original members prior to merge anyway. That doesn’t mean they don’t deserve an identity but, if pairings are a done deal, moving half and in some cases more than half of a pairs pop every 3 months isn’t fair to guests or hosts at this point.

Merge them, rename them, create a new tier, reset the glicko and open transfers to all tiers, with high or very high status on those servers they know have high pops and close transfers on a weekly basis as necessary.

Just let us all try to rebuild from there.

Hennet.1530:

There needs to be punishment for spy/troll accounts in WvW. Though the only way to stop the spy accounts is IP banning till they use a proxies or change how free accounts work in WvW.

^^^

Just add a wvw rank line – 1 tier – tactivator use – 300 pts to max, with a log that shows who did what and be done with it.

You can’t IP ban. Too many households with 1 shared computer. Should Daddy get banned because little Billy took a stroll in an omega? Should the GF get banned because her BF tripped over a tactivator?

As the owner of 2 $10 accounts (that I upgraded to HOT), I find that insinuation insulting. Those sales happened way before HOT, tactvators and merging. It’s true, most sales accounts probably don’t see the wvw light of day much and they do hop servers often (that’s part of why they were offered to begin with), but it doesn’t mean they or all FTP accounts should automatically be labeled spy accounts and it doesn’t mean those people are the only ones abusing the system.

With all the free / alt accounts out there, you’re just as likely to get sniped by a Platinum masquerading as a pennystore major, so it doesn’t really matter either way.

What is profit? It’s something different to everyone right?

I’m getting stuff now I would’ve had to pay for or leave wvw to get 2 months ago. That’s pretty profitable for me imo.

Each track is personally profitable, it just matters what your idea of profit is.

Dude, congrats on resisting the easy zerg route. The game mode needs more people with that mindset. But, sadly, the days of testing your solo might, might be close to an end and there may not be many more chances to do it.

In the olden days, we looked at camp solo difficulty by the amount of supply it held at the time. 250 was the pinnacle for soloing a camp, but you couldnt see it until you got to it or if you had the RI map pulled up on your second monitor. Now a days, it’s the same concept but you can tell a camps upgrade level before you even get to it simply by looking at the number of stars it has above it on the game map or by looking at the amount of time it’s been held and you can do that right from the comfort of spawn or as you’re capping 1 camp and planning your next move.

If a camp has been held for 5 mins, it’s a base camp, free of RI and fairly easy pickins. 20 mins, alittle more difficult and 1 hour, it’s a 250. Just like the old days though, you’ll probably only find a 3 star 250 camp in green BL, most likely North camp.

As far as the amount of supply you can carry. 10 supply is rough, but it’s doable to set up seige on a tower solo, you just have to go about it right. Cats are easier for a number of reasons, but the main one is guards don’t patrol the back wall on a tower without fortify. Setting up a ram, with max 10 supply on even an unfortified tower can be just awful, because even if the guards don’t respawn, sometimes the archer can destroy your ram before you get back with the next load of supply, so go with cats, test spots that can hit, watch other people and steal their tactics for next time.

I’d really recommend asking in map for a havoc party (less than 10ish) to start your path to solo. Learn from them, then scale down your roaming squad til you get better or find 1 or 2 other trusted roaming buddies. It’s a blast doing things alone, but having atleast 1 other person there always helps.

Good luck!

I’m on SF, paired with NSP. I wasn’t thrilled about the pairs at first for a number of reasons. But, now, even after only a month, it feels natural.

The rumor was relink every 3 months, now I’m thinking, it took roughly 2 weeks for people from both sides to get comfortable and start building or trying to build a community together. Their enemies are our enemies, but their enemies may be our parent in 2 months. It’s not right man.