Elementalist Mesmer Ranger
Sea of Sorrows
Mesmers are not overpowered. Not everyone can make a mesmer, tome of knowledge it up to level 80, slap on some exotics and 1v3 with it. Those who can not only know mesmer, but know every other class via PvP.
I started off and remained the same all the way until 2014, because all I did was WvW roam with my full zerk mesmer yolo style. Then they introduced new changes to PvP and I went to give it a shot, and played straight PvP for 8 months straight, after that, I knew every class and every major spell, and all its counters, from the salty community and my experiences there.
Anyway, no its not op. I’m only an average engi, but I can still 1v1 zerk shatter mesmers.
Always have a dodge roll reserved for their mirror blade, when they do a greatsword throw animation, you must dodge it otherwise you’re gonna take 6k from the weapon alone, not including vul stacks, clone summoning, and might to the mesmer.
As far as thief goes, if the mesmer is PU zerk, just out stealth them. Wait for them to reveal themselves first then spike them, and repeat that process. Mesmers have a high stealth uptime, but its limitted. An SA thief can perma-stealth.
TBH, I say stuff metabattle.com. If you truly know mesmer, run what you like where you like. I run all sorts of weird kitten in PvE with my full Ascended scholar stuff and still do massive damage. In CoE, I even use scepter just because meteorlogicus looks awesome on my toon, but Confusing Images hits 15k sometimes and that’s more than Sword will ever do. After I use that I switch to my sword set and spam 1 and 2 all day.
Greatsword is fine also, just go 4,3,2,f1, and swap out. Apart from its bad auto, Greatsword has great cleave and I can defend bipass in CoE p1 fine with gs and sword rotations, if you ever take on the defender role use mantra of distraction, it buys you tons of time.
Specialise in Dueling, there’s multiple traits to make your clones inflict conditions, and lots of clone production. I as a well experienced Mesmer run this line regardless of my build.
Run Twilight Arbor up & forward once a day, that’ll get you a good amount of linen and cotten, salvage all your light-armor drops for easy silk, wool is the only kittene to get.
50k in 25 hits, wow. So that’s 2k on average just from one condition that’s meant to be short duration. Right. Nice anet.
Burn should not do more than double the damage of every single hit you take put together. Tone down its initial damage or at least the stacking capabilities, and then tone down how it scales from condi damage. 130 on zerk, 400-500 on carrion with a few might stacks. Per stack.
ya ppl we don’t want to hear any QQ about mesmers, when yall have your burn ele/guards and nade aid engi
The Zor PvP Glamour Support Build
Amulet: Cele
Rune: Traveler
Weapons: Staff / Greatsword
Sigils: Energy, Generosity / Energy, Doom
Traits:
Dueling: I, V, IX
Inspiration: I, V, IX
Illusions: I, VI, VIII
Skills Selected:
Ether Feast, Blink, Null Field, Feedback, Timewarp.
All rights reserved- Illusionary Zor 29/06/2015
Chaotic Transference is fine. It’s what makes PU rabid deadly.
Staff 4/4/6 is the way to go
3 problems which are well known but anet will never do anything about.
Me and mah friend play power PU and kick kitten coordinating our skills. We can 2v4 quite positively.
Use it right before you stomp like we all do.
Tier 1 been the same since 16 months ago. Pretty sad.
PvP is becoming corrupt with players all copying and pasting metabattle.com builds and that also includes turret engineers.
Ranked arena is chaos because of the terrible MMR, which lets terrible players make in on the first page. Furthermore, all the good players can’t see themselves shine because they’re dragged down with bad team mates.
Unranked is where most people now go because there’s no MMR there. However, people who soloQ there will be fighting at least 2 turret engineers every game.
I believe the salty community development comes from people fighting turret engineers who I believe do have the right to complain about it, then the engineers respond QQ or whatever and get full of themselves. It’s the same when people copy and paste metabattle.com builds and then beat people who don’t touch that site. Some people even tease people when they win 1v1 with their meta builds, that’s just pathetic play. This is all very minor but it happens every day, everywhere and it gradually is building up.
When you soloQ a game of unranked, expect 8 other people to be playing a direct metabattle.com build.
You should see my 500-500 games. That is what we call ‘close’.
Fix the +/- 40 or 36 to 20 and 18. Increase the +15% x duration to 25 or 30.
Turrets should scale on the player’s stars. Then in bunker mode they wont do kitten.
It’s also the insane engineer daily frequency, being there every 2 days. Funny how we get mesmer winner twice a month. Anet are absolutely kittened calling it balanced.
All of you people telling us you can counter it, just neck yourselves. Seriously.
While playing staff ele smashes them, thieves will kick your kitten especially since we get a thief daily 3 times a week.
Ranger is good but medi meta guards, thieves, and eles will kill you, especially since a daily for those three will be on every day.
PvP is getting worse, first they kitten up ranked arena so that scrubs are on the first page of the leaderboard and now we get aids engineers every game every day nearly and every team, even in unranked. A lot of the good players have given up on PvP because it’s nothing like it was 4 months ago. Fix your kitten up before ‘The Great PvP Depression’ gets out of hand.
this doesn’t show much, except that a few months ago the matchmaking wasn’t matching you properly?
(a “perfect” matchmaking will result in every player close to 50% win rate)
This so called current “Perfect” matchmaking is pretty kitten then, Leaderboards are meant to show who the true players are. The ones to look up to. Right now on the front page, we have people famous for being terrible in PvP. This new update to MMR is the rise of noobs and the fall of the pros. All the LB determines now is who plays the most, it has absolutely nothing about skill involved in it, the old way was much better.
Well skyhammer courtyard and kyhlo do suck. Spirit watch isn’t that good either unless you have rangers.
Have fun with all your turret engi days. 1/3 of the next month at least will be those days.
Reference: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Daily/Table
Glass staff elementalist player checking in. What is a turret engineer?…
Oh, that corpse down there? Those scattered bits of metal must have been their turrets.
…
Please, continue playing turret engineer and feeding me free wins.
All it takes is one thief to turn you into someone who spends more time waiting to respawn rather than being alive.
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Heres my experience of SoloQ from this week, and three months ago.
Enjoy the proof infront of your eyes.
Anet are wishing us all a happy easter with giving the noobs and pros all a 50-50 win ratio.
Its a kitten idea that those who train their kitten off have the same win ratio as kittened scrubs.
I had a 14 lose streak in ranked arena, and I’m a pretty decent player, win ratio was 66% in the previous LB reset. This new update has definitely changed things.
They have done something to MMR, all the experienced players are being put with absolute trash, and losing a lot of their games because it’s difficult to carry.
What’s worse is the leaderboard has some of the worst players on the top few spots, this isn’t fair for all the good players, and it gives all the inexperienced players easy runs. Fix this. We don’t want p/p thieves beating teams with Cele eles on it.
Confirmed. fifteencharacters
Just out of curiosity, do you guys deal with turret first or engi first? If turret first then which turret first, second, etc? Decent shatter is able to nuke a turret rather easily, so taking the right order seems quite important in draining the engi (though I understand mesmer will be exhausted doing so as well lol).
Turrets first, take out rocket Turret first always; it has highest dps and range but is squishy.
Skills that would be awesome on a shield, any of the dot points.
4 (Phantasmal)
5 (Anything)
Ideal trait: reduces recharge on shield skills by 20% and:
Any of these would invent the on-point hybrid mesmer, and provide resistance against the gay ranger meta.
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GM should be
Power block should be
Xii and Xi in Inspiration don’t work because in any shatter build, you run x/4/x/x/6, and don’t have enough points left to get it. Anet really need to make deceptive evasion an adept trait to open up so many builds, hell, if that were the case, I’d run 0/2/0/6/6, and get vigor from shatters and remove conditions, would be as good as ele dd cele.
Just loving how my MMR is so high i’m put with scrublords every game vs’ing a premade of 5, wow this system is kitten.
IMO:
Spinal Shivers is a tad strong, and life blast spam too. Lich can be Moa’d every time, or just use reflects.
Apart from that, its a L2P issue. If Lich is on the rampage, just run away. His attacks are pretty slow and easy to dodge.
Power Block should never have been nerfed to the bone. Mesmers are counted hard by thieves, and this gave mesmers the chance to fight back, but the QQ was real.
Clearly all these who QQ I advise you to see this piece of art.
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Stealth isn’t all that good in pvp. You can’t hold kitten or decap. Focus more on capping than killing.
Obviously ranger is slightly harder to play and is more vulnerable, but I still hate it nonetheless.
SLIGHTLY harder to play than turret engi? A berserker build with little or no condi removal is SLIGHTLY harder to play than turret engi?
You sit at 2000-2500 sniping 4k auto attack. Aids engis dont have that.
Most hated builds to me are
Aids engi
Cele Ele
Cele Engi
Pew Pew rangerAll are equally low skill high reward and kittenes to fight.
“You sit at 2000-2500 sniping 4k auto attack” are we playing the same spvp?
The 4k part may be an exaggeration, but you’ll hit 3k+ on anything zerker. The range is 2000-2500, thats confirmed. You gain additional range when you’re on a higher ground. Naturally its increased to at least 1800 from projectile arc alone on flat surface.
Would a D/D build be an easier beginner build?
Would I be tougher? Harder to kill? So far, the hardest thing I am finding is that I am so so soft. Ridiculously soft. A npc hits me for 1/5th of my health just running by.I leveled crafting just so I could craft ascended celestial gear. And you don’t use it.
I want to take camps solo. When you solo, do you do that?
It’s not hard, especially with D/D.
Run a 0/2/0/6/6 trait setup, or 0/0/2/6/6 if you require more sustain. Always use III, IX, XI in water and II, VIII and XI in arcana.
Have half of your gear celestial (All stats) and the Other half Knights or Clerics (Power toughness X).
Repeat this rotation in supply camps.
Fire -> Earth -> Water -> Air
Make the last skill you use while attuned to fire, Ring of Fire. Then switch to earth directly after that and dodge roll, and use magnetic grapple & leap. Switch to water and use Frozen Burst. This all will stack plenty of might as long as it is all done within the Ring of Fire. Be quick in water and Earth, so you can switch back quickly later to get your heal or protection boon. Spend most of your time in Air or Fire.
I can take on two people for ages with this, and kill them if they don’t immediatly res each other.
PM me for more info.
- Nerf gay ranger meta – Longbow channel through stealth & signet of stone
- Half the HP of engineer turrets
- Nerf warrior and ele signet for healing skill.
Obviously ranger is slightly harder to play and is more vulnerable, but I still hate it nonetheless.
SLIGHTLY harder to play than turret engi? A berserker build with little or no condi removal is SLIGHTLY harder to play than turret engi?
You sit at 2000-2500 sniping 4k auto attack. Aids engis dont have that.
Most hated builds to me are
Aids engi
Cele Ele
Cele Engi
Pew Pew ranger
All are equally low skill high reward and kittenes to fight.
what da kitten?!?!?!? mesmer is requiring MORE nerfs? Lol.
First of all, mesmers are probs in the bottum 3 i prefer on a team in tpvp. They’re very squishy, they can’t hold points for kitten, can’t carry orbs for kitten, and have no choice but to play double ranged shatter or double ranged lockdown because scepter is single target condi garbage, and sword has been nerfed to the bone.
Lol RIP. stupid anet made me lose points for that game lmao
It’s fine now, we can all log in. But thanks for ruining our games for no reason anet >.<
kitten just happened, I saw one person on the enemy team leave, then all of a sudden its 4v2 in our favour, then I get DC and can’t log in, what is going on? This was ranked arena.
Anet don’t give a rats kitten about this, but imo soloQ and teamQ were better than this, I hate having team full of soloQ against a five man premade; esp full of kitteny kittens.
Mesmer should get a transformation elite: phantasmal form; gain stability, protection and move faster, and gain all these fun 1-5 skills.
Dodge the mirror blade. Dodge into the clones when they or the Mesmer run towards you.
Mesmer needs blocks which function like Warrior sword 5 and ranger gs 4, just give retal shield ICD of 5s.
Anet is clearly kitten in the head.
Mh weps: 2
2h weps: 2
Off hand weps: 4
Oh and they give us another off hand…
What we want and have always wanted is a MH pistol. IT’S NOT HARD ANET JUST DO IT
Sword pistol gs power PU knight/zerk. Dominates all 1v1. Traveller runes for mobility.
Asura engi always
I think overcharged shot is a bit OP; if you watch the enemy for reflects and stability, you can surprise them for a 3.5s cc on a 15s cd. Let alone it also cures 3 conditions on that short cd. Definitely increase the cd, or add a cast time like Warrior kills hot. If a cast time is added, the self KB can be removed, and we can all be happy. Considering its a launch skill, it should still have a 20s cd at least, no other launch skills cds are that short.
Mesmer double ranged shatter vs
Necro: 8:2
Ele: 8:2
Other mesmer: 9:1
Thief d/p: 7:3
Thief s/d: 4:6
Ranger 8:2
Engi 7:3
Warrior: >8:2
Guardian 7:3
As fresh air ele
Mesmer: 7:3
Ranger 9:1
Thief dp: 6:4
Thief sd: 4:6
Other eles: 5:5 (all play dd._.)
Necro: 6:4
Engi: 6:4 (all are aids or cele rifle)
Warrior: 6:4
Guardian: 8:2
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Solution : don’t play ranked if you’re new.
Play lots of practise, then do unranked.
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