Guild Wars 2

It’s almost like Anet needs someone to ask the question, “what will Reddit think?”.

Reddit is the home to hive-mind fanboys for almost every online game. The power of that downboat button ensures that anything critical of a company or game will never be seen by large numbers of people, and the fanboys use it.

When Reddit goes ballistic it’s obvious that Houston didn’t know there is a problem, but needs to be told, and that has happened three times in recent weeks.

Commander tags for 300g?
Removing crossed sword indicators when a WvW objective is attacked?
Gem/Gold conversion changed, not for the better, with a lousy excuse?

Yeah, what will Reddit think?

By the way, I’m posting this here because if I posted this on Reddit it would downboated to the bottom of the lake, immediately.

They can’t. They’re addicted to RNG.

Conncept.7638:

pdavis.8031:

Would that make one super developer?

Knowing the mystic forge you’d probably ending up getting a wildstar developer out of it.

At least that would be a rare item

Offair.2563:

lordkrall.7241:

Oh, I don’t know. I played on Underworld for quite some time, even after many of the guilds left.

And while true that the same guild might not be able to have one person per tower/keep having one player (doesn’t have to be a guildie) standing in there or at least walking between them shouldn’t really be that hard for any server with some sort of organization.

If Anet going to remove the white swords, can you remove the white knighting?

That would be almost too good to be true.

morrolan.9608:

John Corpening.9847:

Removing white swords from objectives to give defenders a stronger role in alerting their team as well as giving attackers more of a chance to get through having their siege disabled.

This would be a mistake.

Seriously. As a defender, I don’t need a “stronger role”. The commanders already take me seriously. How about a few rewards for my role? Even I can only scout for so long before I want to go for a run too, but there is no one to take my place.

John Smith.4610:

Be careful saying things don’t make any sense, it’s very rare that’s true. Almost everything (I’m speaking generically) is done for some reason or purpose, that purpose isn’t always very clear at first.

Unfortunately there is a rather large information gap between what you know, and what we can see going on. Without knowing what you know, I think it’s fair for us to describe quite a few things as “not making sense”.

For what it’s worth I am familiar with Bayes. In the 1990’s I worked with a group to produce a learning system that individuals could use to build a spam filter according to their own definition of spam. These systems were known as Naive Bayes Spam Filters and we managed to build a proof of concept system with a really lousy UI.

As an interesting side note it turned out that learning systems for individual users was simply not necessary because spam is so generic that it fulfills the Supreme Court definition of pornography. You know it when you see it.

In Bayesian terms, between the Omerta policy here and the glacial pace of development on this game, we are not receiving the Bayes Tokens needed to update our data set, and the information gap remains.

Thanks for reading.

Gaile Gray.6029:

John Smith.4610:

JBDanger.2603:

John Smith.4610:

Sariel V.7024:

Any chance for a response on my question? I think you may have missed it.

I apologize, I can’t currently speak on that.

Anet’s famous response for everything!!!

This is a 14 page thread of me answering all I can; throw me a bone sometimes.

Seriously, guys, John’s an amazing forum contributor. Play nicely — we want him to keep up the good info as he’s able to give it!

He’s an amazing contributor, probably the best dev contributor on these forums, but it was a pretty good question from Sariel and well presented. For those of us interested in crafting it’s an issue.

At lot of the game developments recently just don’t make any sense. A good example is the krait collection reward, a recipe that no one in their right mind would ever make because it’s not worth to use t6 mats to get an extra 15 minutes of food effect. There are a lot of examples.

I can appreciate that everyone’s favorite economist can’t answer, and he’s probably not responsible for the decisions being made. So is there perhaps someone else Gaile who you could forward the question to?

SkyFallsInThunder.8257:

Farm cash, buy cores/lodestones.

Money makes the world go around, and John Smith makes certain the money keeps moving (by restricting drop rated and Diminishing Returns).

Decrypter.1785:

Not sure if bugged but collect all 37 dungeons skins from all 8 dungeons , for only 3 AP ? Serious ? or bugged ?

Serious. There is almost no reason to do these collections. Yet, here they are.

Draknar.5748:

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490:

Lets keep in mind though, that the punch line from a Beavis and Butthead joke is not a reason to report or destroy a guild, but it has happened.

So as long as the racist statement is a quote from TV, then you’re good to go?

…..I highly doubt that.

I was speaking about the guild formerly known as Brain Fart. That’s not racist at all.

Lets keep in mind though, that the punch line from a Beavis and Butthead joke is not a reason to report or destroy a guild, but it has happened.

Lalocat.6793:

It’s kind of horrifying. I mean, yes, I could play light classes all the time to get the best loot, but I don’t really want to.

Well, yeah that is pretty bad but what’s worse is that some righteous kitten is going to come along and tell us that you didn’t collect enough data for your post to be valid.

Lord Kuru.3685:

Honestly, if this CDI is anything like the last ones, we’ll get a new community manager in a couple months whose first words will be: “Please give us a bullet point list of your concerns with WvW.” … and the entire process starts over from the beginning.

Sad but true, and exactly the reason why I no longer participate in the CDI’s process.

Even when we do get a result, like colored commander tags, the actual result is not anything like what we players wanted or suggested and we wind up having to scream at them for the real deal.

Now then, about guild commander tags, for guild members only. I guess that would be too much work.

There are no Ita, Rus or Dutch client software, but yes the Ring of Fire has become something of an unofficial WvW server for Italian players. We have several Italian guilds who have some talented commanders, but most of them don’t speak English.

That doesn’t slow us down one little bit, because they are really good at basic map chat communication, while they lead their guild with TS.

Seriously. I just came back from vacation and I got this again. I was like, wtf? Why is this back? They fixed this a long time ago, because it seriously sucked.

Just like profession based drops. Something that we players did not ask for, don’t want, but Anet put it into the game anyway.

Anyone getting upset about languages needs to understand that…

the guy speaking that other language isn’t speaking to you.
the client filter and block function are there for you to use.
many people cannot speak any other language than their own.
and last, complaining in map chat about people using any other language will get you blocked and reported.

Anet have said repeatedly that no language is mandatory on any server.

lordkrall.7241:

Kronos.3695:

So, it’s been almost a month since they release the “feature patch”.
And still we have the same bugs going on on the only real feature introduced with it.

Let’s see if with the halloween patch they’ll be able to clean up all the mess.

Have you seen the code?
Or do you know what is causing these bugs and how to fix them?

Krall, for the last several hours you have added exactly nothing to this conversation.

One of these days Anet will figure that out.

Iason Evan.3806:

Would love to see this stuff fixed.

I would love to see this stuff made worthwhile to do. I did the Maguuma daily achieve today and out of pure coincidence I wound up among a bunch of krait mobs and got the scale drop that starts that collection.

Because I had a bunch of the skins already I went to the TP and bought the rest. That cost me about 3g. No big deal really, but the reward for that collection is a recipe for a supplement condition damage crystal that no one in their right mind is ever going to make because it requires T6 mats. The only bonus for making this item, as opposed to the item with the same effect, is 15 minutes more duration.

Really? Who is going to spend or use T6 mats worth 1g or more to make a food supplement that last 15 minutes longer than the original supplement with the same effects?

I really would like to know who decides on this stuff, and why don’t they ever talk to us here?

Another, and probably better question would be, does that designer who puts these things together actually think that this sort of thing is fun gaming? The rewards in this game have been such garbage, and continually such garbage that I’m not surprised so many players have moved on.

This is just another case where someone at Anet had a pet project and nobody could be bothered to actually consult with players, as usual. Profession based drops appears to be working as intended so we’ll continue to get the “talk to the hand” treatment, as usual.

For those who think that 25 to 30 drops per character is not enough data, you are more than welcome to disprove the theory from the OP. So far he’s done a great job of presenting a reasonable method to collect data, and share it. Y’all can argue all you want about magic find and which class is better at tagging mobs but as things stand right now, it’s pretty clear that 5/8 classes are losing out on valuable drops, just because someone at Anet had a pet project.

I would sure like to know who that was.

There is a dungeon sub-forum? Wow, who knew?

Wanze.8410:

Do you really expect someone from Anet to come here and say:
Wow, thats a great idea, we will implement this some time in the future?

That’ll be the day. This is the only sub-forum that gets less dev feedback than WvW.

I have no problem sleeping at night, and how Anet generates an income is not at all my concern. They will never get 10 cents more from me.

Interesting idea. MF boosts, or Karma would be cool.

DeWolfe.2174:

I don’t know what happened over at Anet but, the whole month of September they’ve been shooting themselves in the foot with a lot of players.

I’m a little older than most of you, and I’ve been gaming for a really long time. I’ve seen some gaming companies do some really stupid things over the years, but these guys look like they are actively trying to kitten us off (and it’s working).

Hackers? Is that even a word? I’ve never seen it here before.

You’re missing the point. They want you to log in, every single day.

This is actually your “reward” for doing so.

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silvermember.8941:

ARenanet NCSoft does what is beneficial to Arenanet NCSoft.

FTFY

It would make sense to bring in a new level of craftable dyes, but after that? Who knows.

Yamsandjams.3267:

It’s possible they’ll bring them back as a reward during some event in the future (i.e. maybe next time the crown pavilion is open)…

Players asked for these recipes again the last time we saw a Crown Pavilion event. We got the usual “talk to the hand” response. This leads you to believe it’s possible Anet will bring these rewards back?

They wont, because this “adds value” to crafting, even though it does not help the New Player Experience at all. As usual, many of these ideas come straight from the Daily Show. The ideas, are not fully thought through.

Scleameth.6809:

not really noticed, since spikes was my number one drop. To me a green drop is a rare occasion. I’m actually rather surprised I don’t get spikes in rank up chests.

Please don’t give them ideas like this. Two blues and a green is bad enough.

“List this item” is the default. Why?

Major runes that I get back from salvaging. I want to sell them outright, and the fewer clicks to do that, the better. I hope that is constructive.

This probably isn’t too constructive, but yeah, same… same here. I love what you guys did with the crafting UI, but not so much this TP UI.

I prefer quantity boxes that I fill in, rather than these up/down buttons. Maybe that’s constructive?

Wanze.8410

What makes you think those changes have an economic reason?

I think they don’t have an economic reason, that’s sort of why I’m asking.

They certainly have no good economic reason for players to do them. The cost of crafting for Alpha Crafter for example, and the reward? Those are the most expensive 5 ectos, ever.

A lot of the NPC’s have been removed. Just think of this as a plot by NCSoft to get us to buy more trading delivery guys.

Not so random question of the day please?

From the economic point of view, did this game really need new material and gold sinks, such as what these new collections really are?

Is there really so much gold floating around that you need all of us to go make 2 feast recipes?

Is there really so much Ascended crafting material floating around that you need all of us to go make 3 complete sets of armor? The return on that collection awards an Exotic item? Seriously?

Ok, the rewards on these collections are a different topic, and I’m sure everyone’s favorite economist didn’t design the collections either, but really, was there an economic need for them?

Mimir.4690:

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490:

…or just stay out of Dry Top? I can’t be bothered with the place.

Strangely enough this “feature” was requested by WvW players, for WvW players and from what I’ve seen so far, we’re having no issues with this rainbow.

Then let us disable it everywhere else, because it’s a pain.

Sounds good to me. Really though, Guild Commander Tags.

We’ve stopped asking for that.

…or just stay out of Dry Top? I can’t be bothered with the place.

Strangely enough this “feature” was requested by WvW players, for WvW players and from what I’ve seen so far, we’re having no issues with this rainbow.

Warchiefomega.2738:

So does this new update mean that I can now craft precursors???

Nope, and honestly? Don’t hold your breath waiting for it.

The jeweler tools require mats that a jeweler can’t actually make.

Bronze ingots, Iron ingots, Steel ingots and Darksteel ingots.

Q/A at its best. Sigh…..

I just made the cook back pack and it took maybe 5 minutes. Everything you need can be crafted on the fly by selecting what ingredients you also need to craft.

I’m not too impressed with the trading post UI, but crafting is just great.

Sariel V.7024:

eithinan.9841:

John Smith.4610:

Attempting to track people manually isn’t effective. If we suspect it’s getting unwieldy we have a numbers of options to make insider traders (and them only) lose large quantities of money. We’ve done this before to destabilize insider trading as an idea and will likely do it again.

My imagination is running wild based off this…

We’ve seen some of this before. Remember Gift of Wine? That may or may not have been an intentional sting, but there have been instances of price-driving information getting out that have turned out to be completely untrue.

It was pure market hype that fueled the trading in grapes before the Gift of Wine was actually available. I should know. I was one of the guys doing the hype and getting rich selling a lot of grapes.

All true…. in the mean time the WvW achieves and rewards are well beyond anything you could a finish in this life time. Seriously.

TL;DR and /15charsIhope.

There just isn’t much more to be said. We players have made all the suggestions we can make. Anet and Devon Carver in particular have said that there is nothing more in the works.

We can like it, lump it, or leave.

I can only agree here, and kitten make the drop rates reasonable enough that we can all get the recipes for these things. Enough with RNG already!

WTS Dusk, ad nauseum. No thanks.

John Smith.4610:

Good catch on the grammar error, I corrected my original post.

My inner editor will host a coming out party.

I’m sorry I can’t talk about the future of badges at the moment.

Fair enough. At least it’s a response. Better than what we get in the WvW or Crafting Forums.

Aidan Savage.2078:

Regarding badges, if you want to make money off them, buy siege equipment plans and upgrade them via the forge to superior versions. I did that quite a bit, and with enough badges, you can get 10-20g out of them.

That’s not a particularly good use for skill points.

Wanze.8410:

Minis are regularly eaten by the forge.

To get another mini in return? That makes even less sense than the precursor stupidity.

Vayne, my man. Can you help me out here, please? My mother has a great little Ebay business in trading collectible spoons and she’s looking to expand her business.

My mother would like to know if these collectible spoons are tradeable. You must be the man to ask because you seem to know everything that Anet intends, so please help us out here.

Please make my mother happy.

John Smith.4610:

papry.8096:

What do you think about the mini market in terms of supply and volatility ?

It’s not one of my favorite markets.

I actually know why this is. To date, there has been no “consumption” of minis. They just continue to flood the market from one side, while most people just don’t care about them, and most minis are stored in crafting storage slots up to a maximum of 250.

One of the latest “features” (I’ll use polite terms) will start to consume minis from the storage slots and trading post market, giving the remaining items and daily production some value.

John Smith.4610:

A surprising amount number of players never use food despite how powerful it is. While it is not the items primary purpose, I would like it if it taught people how great food is and more people became eaters.

How about a gift of food/boosts every level? Just a small selection.

That would introduce the topic, and reinforce the idea regularly.

Now, about Badges of Honor please?

Thank you Psientist, I understand what you’re saying about currencies produced by stable workloads but to use your own comparison of Karma and Badges of Honor, at least Karma is consumable and beneficial. To date, Badges mostly are not beneficial and since the start of EoTM that currency has been produced at a far greater rate, with still no benefit. Why?

Yes Wanze, I know he can’t talk about future possibilities. I would like to know how we got here. Oversight?

Dear John…. err, I’m not in the habit of writing Dear John letters… Can this be fixed?

Thank you