Guild Wars 2

I think the coolest thing about this week is that we have soundly proven that any one of these servers can be the winner. Even if KN comes out ahead in the end, TC led them in total points for a -long- time yesterday.

KN has won the round a few times now. FA beat TC last week. TC beat FA the week before. This week it’s neck and neck between TC and KN.

This matchup is bloody brilliant…

I love all of you. <3

Shazbot.8906:

Chaba.5410:

Shazbot.8906:

So this is happening right now in FABL Garrison. Culling changes showing actual numbers scares me.

OMG I can’t wait! That’s so awesome. Hope I don’t need to nerf it…

Both of my settings are set to “low” so you shouldn’t have a problem. Lowest on quality just makes everyone (friendly and enemy) the low texture models. It’s like playing army soldiers!

Yeah, at Low/Low the models/numbers seems pretty much identical to pre-fix, except you get to see ALLthe nametags of all the other players. Honestly your eyes don’t even seem to notice that there’s no character under the empty tags unless you specifically look for it.

I guess we’re just attuned to looking for the red.

crystalpink.2487:

The titles….are just adding unnecessary clutters in the sea of red & green name tags…. :\

At 1080p I’m not really noticing them. At 720p they stuck out like a sore thumb…

Yeah, I was just about to report the same thing. You can’t queue for WvW anymore. It just tells you it’s full in a popup error message.

I hope that’s just a bug or a temporary problem…

Hexin.5603:

Squibbles.8724:

My question is, what’s KN doing? Like…I KNOW that there’s no KN/TC alliance or anything of the sort, but TC’s creeping up on them in points and FA’s still getting hammered really hard by KN. Whenever I’m in EB/BL it feels like we’re madly dashing from defending against KN and TC one after another, several times even them hitting Durios and Bravost simultaneously….Our kitten is paper, so I understand it’s easier to take, but kitten Meanwhile, Anz, arguably the most vulnerable tower in EB, has been fully upgraded all day. Is KN just that confident in their SEA guilds to pull away in the mornings?

We tried ANZ about 3 times, testing it, and pulling down the cannon/oil. But decided many times to skip over to mendon’s (it was paper)…

eventually we got ANZ, but it was srs business. I mean it was like the chalice of a target, which if we took, we knew we could push the rest of the map, but it was not easy, and definitely not vulnerable. Ask TC, they usually raced in and holed up about 10-15 folks on siege. It wasn’t an easy take, and we tried it about half dozen times across the night.

We did however take mendons a few times during that span, which resulted in WC being flipped, tried OW a few times, but it wasn’t happening last I logged off (2pm pst).

In any event it was a lot of fun, and thank you for the battles, and ty to the kain commanders … you guys were great.

I think the most memorable time imho of last night, would have to be the Durios guild room ninja when FA did all the work. The timing was just impressive. The battles in QL and WC were also lots of fun.

Many thanks, and enjoy the fight. I finally got to poke around with my ele alt last night.

~X [RE], Kaineng

Anz is insanely hard to defend and easy to attack. Nyari says it’s the most vulnerable tower in EB, and I’m inclined to believe her.

I really enjoy keeping it safe. It’s a real challenge, and a mini game of chess with the enemy. There’s something really rewarding about a successful defense of Anz.

Yeah, I really think FA just tired themselves out last week with all their hard work.

Meanwhile, TC came back refreshed this week, and is doing very well.

I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of the TC people burn themselves out this week. Guess we’ll have to wait and see what next week looks like!

DeadlyRush.1620:

We are not aiming to make a difference and blow our whistle to the world. We are just there to have competitive WvW. I think more then half of the people hear even haven’t heard of our guild as we like to keep things low key.

I think it is best we do not reveal our scouts, I do not want any people or server pulling an act(Burn out or all nighter) to prove a point and try to pull us to their server. We will go about this quietly as possible without causing any stress to any servers ^^.

When do you plan on making your decision? I think we’re all excited to see who you choose. :-)

Not only that, but they’re about to launch a massive update that took six months to prep…

That hardly sounds like WvW being neglected….

They rewrote most of the rendering engine for cripes sake…

Graybes.8251:

Hickeroar.9734:

Graybes.8251:

Taldek.6105:

I am sure that some people will hate it at first. Mainly the people who have adapted their entire strategy to take advantage of the current culling shortcoming. I especially look forward to this.

I’d say the first people to complain are the thieves who have been abusing culling. They will probably claim that they are now underpowered and that their stealth needs to be buffed.

They’d be laughed off the server….

They will probably try to claim that getting the best out of culling was skillful. And it took skill to master how to use the culling to it’s highest potential. Pretty much like in other games where people claim that using some exploits took skill because not everyone could do it well.

Now they can get the best out of “no culling.” :-P

Graybes.8251:

Taldek.6105:

I am sure that some people will hate it at first. Mainly the people who have adapted their entire strategy to take advantage of the current culling shortcoming. I especially look forward to this.

I’d say the first people to complain are the thieves who have been abusing culling. They will probably claim that they are now underpowered and that their stealth needs to be buffed.

They’d be laughed off the server….

I would like to know how much of a boost a lot of those things give. The ability to stick upgraded people on siege could be significant if the boost is any more than 1-2%

A few weeks ago I would have agreed with you.

This week, I’ve seen a breakout event get us started in a borderlands on two different occasions when we were significantly outmanned.

It’s also not THAT powerful. Three weeks ago Maguuma was spamming them on us and we defeated them 90% of the time.

Yeah, I don’t think people realize how much this is going to change the face of the game.

It’s a GREAT thing, but I bet it’s gonna be jarring at first.

EnemyCrusher.7324:

Honestly, if you get suppressed in team chat in WvW you probably are spamming. I command players in WvW team chat all the time and have never been suppressed.

That leads me to believe you probably don’t communicate with your zerg as much as typical commanders. Are you in VOIP with a significant portion of those who are following you?

Sifu.6527:

There you go. I narrowed it down to 3 servers; FA, TC, and SoR.

Funny, I came to the same conclusion, minus FA…because arch rivals!! :-P

SHAKA ZULU.3128:

Hickeroar.9734:

Kreaven.3172:

Man Kain, you guys HATE losing SM dont you lol. I had 58 bag slots open when we went to SM… I now have 4. We held it for 3 ticks under constant pressure. So proud of the TCers there. And a heads up to Kain you guys dont quit man

This has always blown my mind. If anyone takes SM, KN players show up in droves and they do not stop until SM is their again. I have to give them mad props. They LOVE that castle…

It keeps us in tip-top shape. Do you know how many yak forsaken stairs you have to climb to get to a normal vendor in that place?! We lose it and we’ll just get fat.

Ah! Maybe we should start drilling people up and down the overlook south stairs! MOVE SOLDIER!

chrisk.4320:

1. Don’t suppress commanders.
2. Immediately stop the purchase of commander with gold. Previous commanders may still be commander.
3. Once you achieve a very high World Rank, allow the purchase of commander with badges or karma.

That is an astoundingly good idea. :-O

World rank…I wouldn’t say “very high.” Maybe just “high.”

OutspokenAardvark.9781:

Can we get another score/map update please?

Someone just posted one on the TC community forum about 10 minutes ago

Chris goes Frontline.1853:

In GW1 enemy names were visible in all formats, never was a problem there. Even if some1 is pm ing you to grief, cry or whatever slap em on ignore. I really dont see the problem with applying this in gw2 :/

GW1 did not have WvW

Kreaven.3172:

Man Kain, you guys HATE losing SM dont you lol. I had 58 bag slots open when we went to SM… I now have 4. We held it for 3 ticks under constant pressure. So proud of the TCers there. And a heads up to Kain you guys dont quit man

This has always blown my mind. If anyone takes SM, KN players show up in droves and they do not stop until SM is their again. I have to give them mad props. They LOVE that castle…

I would love to see you on tarnished coast. We’re strong and getting stronger all the time.

(We’ll welcome you with hugs, kisses, love, and many huge smiles. No, but seriously, people will cheer for you every time they see you. We’re just that kinda group!)

Showing the name plate would allow instant recognition of commanders. It’d be like commanders in wartime putting up a big sign that says “Hey! I’m a commander!”

Sorta like the commanders riding the only horse on the battlefield in the wars of ye olde.

It should be easier to identify and report people though… Maybe keep them targetted and just grey out the health bar when they are out of range or something…

Due to the nature of zerging and group play, I don’t think any newbies will feel inadequate, or be unable to get the boosts.

I think the maps are pretty much perfect in size at the moment.

The only time I’m ever bored while running across one is when I’m solo… And when you’re solo, trying to get to a group, the last thing you want is more “natural” places to be ambushed along the way.

I’ve a feeling the patch will require smaller, more focused groups due to the fact that single, big zergs will be so easy to track.

Squads shouldn’t have a limit to size, and it should auto-add people to your squad when they come within a certain range of you. Range being like…1500 or something. Maybe even 2000 due to the tendency for PuG-heavy zergs to spread out while running.

If two commanders meet, it should keep people in the squads they’re already in, unless they break off from each other and then people can be automatically reassigned.

If someone intentionally joins a squad, they should remain in that squad until they leave, and then be auto-added per the normal rules.

That’s the only way squads could work, imho.

Luvpie.8350:

Honestly squad is useless. Other then supply info it doesn’t provide any utility/ease of use for the commander. I would say it would be 1000x better if all it did was add up the supply everyone has and put a total at top right next to personal supply but no. it doesn’t even do that. Doesn’t allow you to see status of the squad. Doesn’t have a unique color dot for the squad.

Just a 100g for a blue doritto icon that helps with pointing your location. That’s it.

/supplyinfo works on people not in your squad as well if you stack together.

Gismor.8407:

Musty.3148:

I would love to see the maps larger. EB is like urban warfare… towers, keeps, etc are WAY too close together. Even the BLs are pretty tight with the longest run to a keep going to be what? 30 seconds? Way too small.

30 seconds seems like forever when your Keep is being attacked by golems and lots of baddies.

Yeah, an 8 golem rush on a reinforced keep gate can take it down in under 30 seconds.

Habib Loew.6239:

I’m aware you are all posting about public chat but I just wanted to post a reminder that commanders are never suppressed in squad chat.

I appreciate the response, but very rarely do people join the commander’s squad. When you’re dealing with a zerg made up of 50-95% pugs, many of which who don’t even know what a squad is…you use /say.

/say is vital to commanding, and supressing it is very painful. :-(

If everyone knew to join a squad, they’re probably already in Mumble with the commander anyway.

I, myself, didn’t even know how to join a commander’s squad until I’d been playing WvW for well over a month.

The biggest problem with the way that it works is that if you are giving very common commands while commanding, such as “follow,” “build,” “don’t chase,” and many other simple one/two word things…those are exactly the kinds of things that get you suppressed the fastest.

OutspokenAardvark.9781:

The cap should be relaxed across the board for all players, imo. And then it should be relaxed further for players with tags on in WvW maps only.

Yeah, across the board would be good too. I have been suppressed SO many times while trying to RP…

I agree with the OP in theory, but there’d need to be a way to control this.

All someone would have to do is buy a commander tag and they’d be able to spam uncontrollably anywhere they wanted.

Blocking and reporting might be sufficient though.

I’ve been suppressed a few times myself, and I’ve only been commanding for a week.

azizul.8469:

here we go, as requested

Thank you!

Whitebeard.5172:

I have to say it was funny last night when Deyja stopped in Bay and said “food break”….“eat”. I have little doubt that most everyone did a quick fridge raid.
It’s all about taking the time to make sure the troops are fat and happy I guess.

Haha yeah. I’ve never seen a commander do that before. It was pretty great.

MrSilver.5269:

When I logged off yesterday afternoon TC had pushed to under 1,000 for 2nd. I took last night off to read World War Z, and woke up to a completely different landscape. Looks like TC stepped it up big time. Can someone give a recap of the evening festivities?

1)
We had pretty much complete control of our BL all night.

2)
A huge PiNK-led zerg (commanded by the glorious Deyja) caused a rather big mess in FA BL. I left the zerg for EB at about 9 or 10pm, but they were knocking on the gates of the FA garrison at the time with good control of the south. I’ve gotta say, the communication and cooperation in that group was excellent. A very fun and exciting time.

[Rise] was present from KN, and [RET] was present from FA. Had a ton of fun zerg-v-zerg action. I do not mean this as a jab, at all, but TC walked away from many of the zerg fights without having a single downed man. We didn’t lose a single zerg fight. It was very well done. Props to my server-mates. Props to the other guys for putting up a hell of a fight and making it a fun time.

3)
We controlled at least our third of EB, sometimes more.

Score Update @ 7:33AM CST

Digs.8435:

Hickeroar.9734:

Quenta.2978:

I just want you all to know that I RPd in WvW all night on Thursday. I did it and I am not ashamed.

<3 Now you just need to guest over and do it in LA or DR. :-P

The DR crowd can be kinda rough though…

IDK. I think it was all the TC blood that brought it on. Just so much of it he snapped! The man went ballistic!

Did he start talking like a pirate? If so, you might never get him back.

WyldKat.4712:

Chest thumping hurts. And there’s some turret thingie that gets thumpy on everybody. It hurts too. Am I supposed to be thumping other people’s chests or looting them? I’m confused again.

If you try to loot someone’s chest…that would be messy. Ewww.

Quenta.2978:

I just want you all to know that I RPd in WvW all night on Thursday. I did it and I am not ashamed.

<3 Now you just need to guest over and do it in LA or DR. :-P

The DR crowd can be kinda rough though…

Great job this week, FA. The attitudes of TC and FA, in-game and on the forums (excluding this last page….), have been greatly improved all around. Hopefully we get better and better!

FA deserved this win over TC, for sure. They played great, and had a few really coordinated guilds doing some very good work. I was impressed by what I saw.

Great job to KN as usual. Class acts, they are.

TC: We didn’t do AS hot this week due to lousy attendance (spring break related, I hope) and lack of coordination overall. Let’s bring it next week, and have a great time! <3 my toasters!

To the FA QQ guild: I was the Asura who guarded your six corpses against rezzing west of Mends the other day, bowing to you all. Thanks for reciprocating the gesture en-masse when your guildmates came back and killed me. It made me smile. <3

It’s not a bannable offense. If the guild gave you access to it, you have access to it. They won’t even ban players who outright scam other players during weapon sales outside of the TP.

You’d get kicked from the guild, for sure, and make a lot of enemies, as you should, but ANet isn’t going to do anything about it.

neomccoy.2657:

Trying to defend SE tower vs TC. Clips from last weeks match.
/salute

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A45G3s_24c

Haha, good video. I like the music track. Can’t say a disorganized group of…whatever they were…stood a chance against you guys. I love being on the “organized” side of those fights. Lots of fun!

If you transfer…come to tarnished coast.

That is all.

Auriken.6805:

IRSyKo.5843:

FA and TC are 2 extremely sexy servers

fixed.

:-D! <3

I played against a few of you RUN guys last night for a good while. You kept harassing Speld over and over. I think you had a thief/mes/eng group of three, and sometimes just a thief/mes….or something like that.

I was the little Asura Mesmer throwing confusion everywhere, trying to do yak runs for like two hours straight.

Zerath.9862:

Nobody cares about KN

I love KN! They’ve got class and skill!

KN! Don’t let the bad person make you think we don’t care!!!

Kingzook.1620:

its kind of funny, it seems that both TC and FA have left EB alone since getting pushed out, all they care about is each other :P

:-P Thanks for the score update!

JaironKalach.4938:

Hickeroar.9734:

JaironKalach.4938:

Hickeroar.9734:

JaironKalach.4938:

By the way, to all who have recommended Sun Tzu…. I’m laughing my head off going through this:

http://suntzusaid.com/

It’s becoming increasingly clear that Sun Tzu was a fan of Zerging and PvDoor. It’s good sound strategy, but….

I’m not sure where you got that idea. If anything he was quite the opposite. He favored deception and winning by smaller, smarter numbers over having a zerg anyday. He also favored not fighting at all if you could manage.

One of the big things he says is NEVER EVER go up against a walled city unless you have no other choice. Obviously that is incompatible with WvW though.

The only time he ever supported a direct attack on the enemy is if you had massive superiority in numbers, so I guess you could say that supports zerging, but you’re just missing the point…

Erm…. Here:

http://suntzusaid.com/book/6

Lines 13-19… Keep your own actions obscure so the enemy has to have a split defense, and you can send a concentrated force (zerg) against their weakest point.

Sure, but that makes perfect sense. The weakest link in the chain…

He’s not supporting zerging here. He’s supporting being smart.

Overall he avoids conflict any time he can, and says that numbers don’t really have all that much to do with winning if you play smart.

He even says that the ideal war is one in which there aren’t any battles… You win by deception, supply control, pressure, etc.

Hrm… At some point as a game wide community we must come to agreement on the definition of “zerging.” Sure, he doesn’t support mindless rushing, but he does support setting up fights where you can win via overwhelming odds. So

Yeah. I’d love to see what he’d say about WvW. A lot of the stuff he says can apply there, on a small scale. Protecting supply, deception, morale…

A lot of other stuff, discipline for instance, can’t apply. You can’t force your pugs to follow you. You might get the illusion of control with a guild group, but at the end of the day the worst you can do is kick them…and then they’re just another pug.

JaironKalach.4938:

Hickeroar.9734:

JaironKalach.4938:

By the way, to all who have recommended Sun Tzu…. I’m laughing my head off going through this:

http://suntzusaid.com/

It’s becoming increasingly clear that Sun Tzu was a fan of Zerging and PvDoor. It’s good sound strategy, but….

I’m not sure where you got that idea. If anything he was quite the opposite. He favored deception and winning by smaller, smarter numbers over having a zerg anyday. He also favored not fighting at all if you could manage.

One of the big things he says is NEVER EVER go up against a walled city unless you have no other choice. Obviously that is incompatible with WvW though.

The only time he ever supported a direct attack on the enemy is if you had massive superiority in numbers, so I guess you could say that supports zerging, but you’re just missing the point…

Erm…. Here:

http://suntzusaid.com/book/6

Lines 13-19… Keep your own actions obscure so the enemy has to have a split defense, and you can send a concentrated force (zerg) against their weakest point.

Sure, but that makes perfect sense. The weakest link in the chain…

He’s not supporting zerging here. He’s supporting being smart.

Overall he avoids conflict any time he can, and says that numbers don’t really have all that much to do with winning if you play smart.

He even says that the ideal war is one in which there aren’t any battles… You win by deception, supply control, pressure, etc.

Static.9841:

Massively dissapointed with the KN mesmer in KNBL who decided to teleport hack while downed several times across the map as 3 of us litterally chased your downed corpse from Heroes all the way to Redlake before we lost sight. Does a character death really mean that much to you to avoid it in such a cheap and grimey way?

Just report the incident to the guild and let it go. Screenshot it next time too, so they can identify who it was. Otherwise it’s just a baseless claim in the public forums. :-/

JaironKalach.4938:

By the way, to all who have recommended Sun Tzu…. I’m laughing my head off going through this:

http://suntzusaid.com/

It’s becoming increasingly clear that Sun Tzu was a fan of Zerging and PvDoor. It’s good sound strategy, but….

I’m not sure where you got that idea. If anything he was quite the opposite. He favored deception and winning by smaller, smarter numbers over having a zerg anyday. He also favored not fighting at all if you could manage.

One of the big things he says is NEVER EVER go up against a walled city unless you have no other choice. Obviously that is incompatible with WvW though.

The only time he ever supported a direct attack on the enemy is if you had massive superiority in numbers, so I guess you could say that supports zerging, but you’re just missing the point…

Detailed here: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Leg-Specialist-Arrow-Cart-Enemy-lockdown/first

This appears to be the only personal trait that applies its effect when you’re using siege.

It only requires two warriors to be on siege, properly traited, and they can wipe an entire zerg by locking them down.

Instead of all the moaning going on that thread, I thought I’d report it as a rather obvious bug.