If you want to make money in this game you have 2 choices. Farm cof p1 or play the trading post. Seeing as how a big part of endgame content in GW2 is grinding for skins which more often than not requires money, why are we SEVERELY limited in the ways we can make money. Im not asking for every monster to drop t6 mats, but just a little consideration for the players who want to log on, kill monsters for an hour and make a bit of money. You can’t always log on and do cof p1 runs because you’re at the mercy of the group and the groups pace. By allowing us to farm like regular mmo players we can kill monsters at our own pace and not feel restricted in our ways to make money.
Im not asking for everything to be made easier, for t6 mats to go down in price or trying to subtly imply that i need things handed to me on a silver platter. Im just saying, think of giving the players some variety. GW1 I could farm raptors,vaettirs,ToPk, 55 monk various locations (trolls, jade brotherhood, undead outside bergens), and many other things. GW2 I have all these enemies I can kill, but after 5 hours of doing so, I’ll be lucky to make a 2g profit.
inb4 just run cof p1 and shut up
inb4 but you dont need skins to play the game
inb4 people who might be borderline ree kitten come in and try to argue with baseless counter arguments
Because we are expected to buy gems with real money and trade for in-game gold.
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
A 1/5 chance at winning is not a gamble. It is a waste of money.
Moa races need more. It is incomplete. They are as much fun as flipping a coin, or rolling a single die, in other words BORING.
We need statistics. Some birds should be faster, but wear out sooner. Some birds need higher endurance, but lower top speed. Some birds need more sprinting, with longer cooldowns, while others need less sprinting. Etc…
These statics need to be shown before each race, and can be read by the gambler, so a decision can be made.
Of course there will always be a side of randomness, but people do not go bet at race tracks because they have a 1/10 chance. They bet at race tracks because they have information that might lead to a win. We currently have nothing, and it currently is a terrible game.
If Moa races remain how they currently are, I and thousands of other players will be extremely disappointed.
But they and I will still play it. {:þ
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
I’m lovin the Moa races, but, have to say that it would have been AWESOME if it were like the rollerbeatle races and we were transformed into the Moa’s that are in the race.
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
“Globs of Ectoplasm can now be salvaged into Piles of Crystalline Dust. This change should help Globs of Ectoplasm maintain a strong value in the economy and lower the cost of Crystalline Dust.”
Thank you. Now if we could have a solution for lodestones that would be awesome!
The dust solution was a quicker low hanging fruit change outside of the larger reward system overhauls, so we figured we’d get it out quickly based on all of your feedback.
As always, thanks again for feedback folks!
Where I do commend Anet for “trying” to solve this issue, its not really solved, the loot in your end game 80 zones is still no where to be seen, all you did here was move the attention away from 1 T6 mat for a few days, some weapons requires a lot of dust and ecto, but now we have to salvage the ecto to get the dust,
Why could you not just FIX THE LOOT in your level 80 end game zones, this is poor.
I agree the LvL80 zone loot tables need an overhaul. +1, but, TY ANET for what attention you do give the community.
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
Pretty sure this guy wins. Could make a thread almost identical, but being “What would you bring from gw2 to gw1” and i guarantee the answers would be:
jumping
dodging
wvwvw
jumping puzzles
and that’d be about it.
You forgot swimming
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
That sentence right there is more than likely why Arenanet makes us put up with such an absolutely restrictive DR system and why they keep nerfing every single good farming spot. The harder it is to make gold, the more likely it is someone will buy gems to resell for gold.
Which is why I do the complete opposite, I trade in game gold for gems if/when I want something from the scam store. I refuse to spend 1 penny more of my real money until things turn around.
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
I’m just laughing when Vayne thinks it’s just some people talking, because the way I see it are some in-game traders who bought bulk and started selling recently, and contributed at least 50% of the initial increase of prices. And the prices didn’t go up because everyone was at southsun, it was because anet announced the closure of union waypoint farm, and traders pushing it up.
The minority is king here, and the majority is exploited.
Where do you see that I said at least 50%. Your constant attacks on what I say, including putting in stuff I didn’t say make everything you say circumspect.
Vayne, please do as you have told others and re-read his post, nowhere is he saying you said anything regarding 50% of anything, what he said was, and I quote “the way I see it are some in-game traders who bought bulk and started selling recently, and contributed at least 50% of the initial increase of prices.” You’re welcome.
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
Sorry but your stuck with it numbers of other people have posted about this same thing almost verbatim. It does say unique which ANET expects everyone to know that it means only one can be used. There are others with same stats just one is defensive and one offensive.
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
Just think, if farming were like it is now back when the game started you would be one of the NCsoft fan bois in here QQin that you couldn’t get your precious legendary fast enough because the farmers can’t provide the mats needed on a timely basis. You can deny this but I’m sure the majority of the community would agree. Go figure.
Thank you for playing, but actually I’m not interested in actively pursuing a legendary. Maybe eventually I’ll start working towards one but none really excite me in the whole ‘must grind ’til my eyes start bleeding’ way.
And I’m sorry, where is your certification to speak for a ‘majority of the community’?
I too don’t have a Legendary for the same reasons. Look at my statement concerning the community closely please, I very well said, and I quote “I’m sure the majority of the community would agree.”. Notice the underlined portion? That’s an assumption not a definitive
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
Especially a repetitive do the same thing over and over spot – those ones really should get temp bans when exploited.
Sounds like a jelly troll who couldnt farm some nice spots in time :P dont worry, there are many yet ^^
Or you could notice what I’ve been saying since launch around here.
This game was meant to be played for the game, the actual content. The intrinsic rewards are what it is designed for.
If you want a progression based game where you need to gather all these shinies, go back to WoW where you belong.
Shinies are weapons and gear, I don’t farm that I farm mats which are needed for your ultimate shiny the legendary, the shinies that do get dropped is just an extra to toss at the merchant for coin to fund my WP expenses, never played WoW it was to cartoonish to me sorry.
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
There’s a difference between grinding and farming.
You killing the same set of creatures over and over is grinding, devs don’t like that.
Farming would be you killing those spiders 1 time then going and killing spiders somewhere else, devs are okay with that.
Yes, but why bother paying attention to the devs when you can QQ all over the forums?
Just think, if farming were like it is now back when the game started you would be one of the NCsoft fan bois in here QQin that you couldn’t get your precious legendary fast enough because the farmers can’t provide the mats needed on a timely basis. You can deny this but I’m sure the majority of the community would agree. Go figure.
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
As the title says, being an elitist has completely destroyed this game for me. My inner elitist drove me to learn strategies for each dungeon and boss, execute them flawlessly, become the self-declared best Guardian in Guild Wars 2, and create top-of-the-food chain-guides for Warrior and Ranger. After accomplishing feats like killing Lupicus in 46 seconds with my super group of guildies and clearing Arah path 4 in 30 minutes, I’ve realized something that really took me all too long: Guild Wars 2 is a casual’s game, and that isn’t going to change.
The last few patches have brought nothing but temporary content that has taken me no longer than a few hours to complete at most, and very little changes to dungeons, if any at all. Fractals are in a state of chaos and the only people that have motivation to do them are people that enjoy harming themselves or people caught in an infinite loop of grinding for a weapon skin that will most likely never drop for them. I cannot keep myself entertained with a game that offers no new challenge, and the little challenges that did exist were destroyed after discovering the trinity of Warrior, Guardian, and Mesmer. I can understand that someone with no desire to master dungeon content or someone that only wants to log on and do dailies would have trouble with this game, but Guild Wars 2 simply offers nothing for the hardcore player, and I don’t think that I’m alone in thinking this.
People that play casually don’t really bother me, they can do what they want and that’s fine. If the idea of Guild Wars 2 is to produce temporary content for someone to log on and see once a month and buy some minis from the gem store, then I don’t have a problem with that either; I just don’t feel I can be a part of it any longer. I’m quite disappointed, because I had fun playing this game for several months, whether it was hunting for Final Rest when it was hiding with Shadow Behemoth all along, or practicing Lupicus alone for hours so I could master his mechanics and teach them to other people. I’m not posting this thread to trash Anet or to make drama and cause people to quit the game, I’m posting it so people can read my thoughts on Guild Wars 2 and discuss them in hopes that maybe some day there will be some content that challenges hardcore players.
In closing, perhaps taking a casual approach to Guild Wars 2 is the best way to go about playing this game, but being an elitist and mastering the PvE content the game offers eradicated any sort of drive to continue playing a game that doesn’t seem to be targeted towards someone like me
I wouldn’t call myself elitist if I was after the rewards, I have been doing dungeons Solo/2-man/3-man/4-man I have challanged Champions I know have no specific chest reward, I do it becouse I wanna know how good I am and se if I can do it… The myself knowing “I soloed a champion” is more of a reward for me. (But that is just me)
I may have missed it totaly but…
If you would wan’t a change what would you wan’t, what reward would you wan’t for being “Elitist”?
Also it was said earlier in the post that games are made for Highscores, yes the old games was about highscores but then again did you get a reward for speedrunning or getting the highest score in Super Mario Bros. ? No? Oh… …
Wait! Yes, Metroid! You got a reward for compleating that game under a specific amount of time, you got Samus to remove her helmet and armor.
So is that an enough reward for “Elitists” to speedrun dungeons, just a few changes to your charecter or are you actually looking for some Bragging rights? Well I wouldn’t mind a Title for those so called “Elitists”.
Anyway I myself are against better stats and EQ so as long A-net not makes an ElitstsAscended gear I wouldn’t mind a little bragging rights for the “Elitists”.
Why am I against better gear? Well I like how this game is built atm, that the player behind the computer is the good one and not the gear and that is being the best is all about “To master the game”.
Thats what I want, for Dwayna and Lyssa to strip naked if you beat them solo. Now THAT’S L33T. {;þ
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
Oh come on, we’re not nerds that are afraid of social interaction, but social interaction is kinda bad in this game. I take myself as an example, I’ve been a big guild for months now, and we rarely talk, I don’t even say “hi” on guild chat, and most of other guildmates do the same.
Same goes for the open world PVE.
That means the social interaction is bad in your guild. I’m in a guild that doesn’t shut up. Depends on the guild. The bigger the guild, the more likely you’ll have less chatter.
I mean who can deal with a couple of hundred people all chatting in the same channel.
Also, many guilds employ voice chat servers, and a lot of the “chat” goes on there instead of guild chat in game.
Oh kitten. Here I go again agreeing with you, even had to give you a thumbs up. I have been with the guild I’m in for 6+ years coming from GW1 where we at one point had 1500+ members(think about 300+ on vent at the same time, chaotic). Here in GW2 we are trying to keep the numbers much lower and still at times the chatter in TS is so wild I must mute them so I could stop laughing long enough to concentrate on my farming escapades. Just an LOL moment.
EDIT: I had to reword part of sentence to remove the underline it was getting, for some reason it doesn’t like the + 1 so reworded to thumbs up.
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
1) You shouldn’t be farming to begin with.
2) Nothing was changed, your perception is just different.
3) Nobody cares.
4) If you aren’t having “fun” anymore, then quit.
I’ve come into this thread just to say I hate you and people like you.
The fact that there are things in this game that cost 500+ gold to make (volcanus comes to mind), not to mention stuff like infinite light, mjilnor (spelling is wrong, I know) and then legendaries means that farming is needed. Flat out. End of. You are wrong. This isn’t a debate. To get a high tier item one would like in a reasonable amount of time, farming is needed. Whether it be world bosses, mobs in Orr, dungeons of any kind, gathering every day, whatever. Farming is needed.
Also, perception is how we get results for the scientific method. To claim that his “perception changed” doesn’t mean he’s wrong, you blithering kitten.
The problem I have with your diatribe is the terms reasonable amount of time. Reasonable amount of time to whom?
In most games, if you don’t have certain gear, you can’t progress at all. You need X gear in order to enter Y raid. This game doesn’t do that to you, so the amount of time it takes to get the highest end gear is longer…intentionally so.
It’s not supposed to be fast to get the best looking (matter of opinion anyway) weapons in the game. They’re not giving you more power.
The problem is, you kids today have no patience. lol
Why do you keep going to the age argument? We get it man …. You are retired, and stuck at home, and play up to 10 hours or more a day since launch, as per your statement of having played 3000+ hours already. You playing this game is basically a full time job.
If I had 3000 hours in this game, I am sure I would have my legendary too, and I would be on here telling people to relax and take their time and high fiving you on your post, but I dont.
So when I come on, I farm.
1. Because I enjoy it after a long day at work to come home and do mindless nothings for a while.
2. Because I have a goal I would like to achieve in a reasonable amount of time, so that if something new does come out .. and it will, I will be able to spend my time working toward that goal as well.
Its really that simple. But I am sure you will have something to say along the lines of .. This game is not for me … or Gear progression does not exist, so with Exotics I will hit just as hard… When it has nothing to do with being powerful … I just want to kill people in WvW with a bow that shoots unicorns because its hilarious to me. Simple …
Though I don’t agree with 95% of what Vayne has to say this is one of those 5% times I do agree and I’m a hardcore farmer(not one of those static farmers either) also approaching 3000+ hours of game-play being disabled/retired, I also don’t have a legendary nor do I care to have one, I farm for my guilds needs as well as for myself.
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
I just love that ArenaNet puts in objectives that, to reach them, you have to farm for, and then goes and nerfs every possible way to farm. So where’s the logic in that?
And if you’re not supposed to farm, why the need for so many mats for a single item? How would you ever acquire it? By simply playing and then sometime in the distant future you have all the materials? Best delaying tactic ever. Not.
Buy Gems, trade them in for gold.
/thread
OMG! Are you an NCsoft employee?
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
1) You shouldn’t be farming to begin with.
2) Nothing was changed, your perception is just different.
3) Nobody cares.
4) If you aren’t having “fun” anymore, then quit.
1) Why shouldn’t we farm if/when we want?
2) Yes it was changed.
3) Evidently you cared because you responded.
4) His and many others fun factor only has diminished not ceased.
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
In other words, we are virtually going into negative supply flow at the rate it is being used than the rate it is being “created”, so to speak.
Not long ago, sell order supply was nearly 0 and now it’s nearly 5000 units. It’s also been said that the dust is used in many crafting/forge recipes, do you have data on how much is sold and how much is consumed each day? You seem to be making a lot of assumptions based on little evidence.
From what I see there has been some manipulation of the market by opportunists, plus a drop in the number of people gathering the dust which led to an increase in price. This in turn leads to the dumping of hoarded supplies by those same opportunists, and an increase in gathering by people who notice the higher price, which leads to an increase in supply.
In the words of one of recent history’s greatest philosophers, “Don’t Panic.”
EDIT: Stretching the graph back to February, 5k seems to be around the ‘sweet spot’. Comparing now to March/April, I’m wondering if/when the bubble goes pop.
And to throw on another anecdote, Cursed Shore was hoppin’ again last night on TC.
You know, they do the temples almost every several hours on my server to, and when I run with them there are always a few people who ask what happened to the loot, cause you leave Orr with almost nothing but the loot you get from the temple chests and some porous bones, might have a few heavy moldy bags, but you dont get much from just a few bags. All the events in Orr have been nerfed and all the mobs loot tables have been nerfed and anyone that tries to say differently is either an Anet employee or delusional.
Thanks for posting that Uruz. Maybe people will stop saying I don’t know what I’m talking about now. Less fun for me, but probably better overall for the forums. lol
That post proves nothing except how expensive T6 dust is. The only place to Acquire it is in Orr and if you go there and try and farm it from risen, all they pretty much drop is porous bones cause Anet has nerfed the crap out of the place and no one goes there anymore except to do Temples.
It proves the price has already started going down. It will continue to go down as more people go back to Orr. I’m not sure why a drop in price should be ignored, just because it doesn’t agree with your personal theory.
11 hours ago dust was at 38s 77c and it is at this time going for 39s 59c so prices are going up not down.
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
An evil thought came to me that what if(not that they would) ANET is keeping the supply of dust in the thousands(as a gold sink), after all it’s their game, they can create dust with the push of a button. Just a thought mind you(probably goes with the conspiracy theories).
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
Well, the price for T6 dust is over 40s on the TP, meaning it now costs over 100g for one stack. The funny thing is that there’s less than a stack of T6 blood available on the TP and it’s going for 26-27s, which I can only assume means ppl are hoarding it.
Crys. Dust is at 38s 77c and there is over 1000 on the TP.
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
I’m sorry that your vanity and this game do not mix.
I’m sure you’ll find something else down the line.
And the subject to this post should read “My elitism is ruining the game for me”, that would be most accurate.
Thanks for the advice.
I really couldn’t figure your post out as to whether you were concerned about the elitists were ruining the game or that there was no content for an elitist. Are you now confirming that you are one of those L33T people so many talk about?
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
they need to put “unique” reward in the game, not just rares…rares is like the new greens now, too easy to get.
Even the new rares/exotics that were introduced into the game are garbage, so, I wouldn’t anticipate on any unique item added to be much better if at all.
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
There’s nothing there for them, how does anyone expect them to get enough gold to actually get the runes/ sigils they need to play normally in PVE end game?
Let’s assume your being genuine when you say you’re concerned about new players. I doubt you are, but we’ll assume you are:
New players are players who aren’t level 80 and who aren’t going to be concerned with purchasing Superior Sigils/Runes of Whatever. The sigils/runes they’re going to be getting, if any, are minor and major. Most (all?) minor and major sigils/runes are very, very cheap. They’ll gain more than enough money to purchase them in the course of playing normally. And by the time they’re ready for Superior Sigils/Runes, they’ll no longer be new players and thus they can afford them the same way the rest of us do.
Just wait until they hit 80 and start going “oh kitten” where/how am I going to get the in game coin for this, that or the other, welcome to the next generation of posters coming here to vent their anger/frustration about the very same things your supporting now, it will be a never ending cycle of this until things change for the better or GW2 tanks.
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
Now, this COULD be an abberation because I don’t do it that often, but for my money, I’ve personally made more money farming the armored scales.
Some people say they can make 9g/h with skelk on another post.
I didn’t know you can make that much on armor scales. So how many scale you get an hour? like 30?
I don’t know. I got 10 in about 15 minutes…but it might just be an aberration.
Actually, this time Vayne is almost right.
I just got out from the shark spot near Crab Toss island with 5 armored scales in 15-20 minutes…
So he probably overexagerate to prove his point, but i can confirm that’s one got spot for farm.
Wich now will be nerfed to death because ANet want us all autoattacking dragons and behemoth in their “revolutionary” Dinamic Events…
Lol!
I tried this last evening, with only the 200% MF Southsun buff.
Got 2 armored scales in 15min. Tried it again around 2hrs later on a different toon, again 2 armored scales in 15min. These drop rates are what I would expect.
I didn’t ‘farm’ any longer because in my experience DR sets in after 15 min,
Sorry, but I don’t believe either of you
I did it with my wife last night. After a relatively disappointing afternoon I got another 10 in about 20 minutes of farming. She only got 2 in the same time period.
Whether you believe me or not I don’t care. RNG is RNG. I am many things, but I’m no liar.
The RNG gods definitely smile down upon you because I farmed that area last night on the BG server my home-world and after an hour or so only managed to acquire 3 “armored scales”, 10"large scales", a few whites, some blues, 4 greens and 1 yellow. Maybe it’s a server thing, maybe your on the RNG gods server.
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
Good luck, I really hope you get a transfer, I have a personal friend/guildy who has been trying for over a month to get onto Blackgate as he missed the ability to do so at the time transfers were offered due to being in another state at the time, he even purchased the gems to do so, but, every time he attempted this it was always full regardless of what time of day or night, he has since quit trying and has quit playing. Its ok NCsoft got his money.
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
I’m starting to think it might have been better for them to have just expanded on the original Guild Wars and its expansions with more expansions continuing the story there with more expansions opening new parts of the world and letting us age with the story to some point where we are at in the new age of Guild Wars. Just a thought.
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
Why would they nerf one of the worst farms in the game? Skelk had a better return ratio so they nerfed that, and it was barely even worth it. If instigator is worth farming it will be nerfed.
Why would they nerf Instigator now, it will be all over in 8 days.
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
Usually i like to run a quick cof for some tokens and coin before i go to bed as it is a swift run.
Tonight, al 5 of us where on different servers , all contested, 3 of us guested to 6 other servers , all contested….what gives?
11 servers contested. No one wants to do the event ,because quite frankly, i have done it soooo many times, it bores me to tears…
All i wanted was a quick cof, but alas tonight, a duneon run was denied from me.
IMHO i should be able to run dungeons whenever i choose to without participating in a silly event to " open the gates "….
If i want to run events, i go run events….
Please remove this silly event from cof, it wastes my time, it wastes the other 4 guys time, it wastes every single persons on the servers time…..
Now , without a doubt ill get the few that will come here and say " but i like doing the event, its part of the game "…..Sure it is, but it gets old, quick….
All i wanted to do was run a quick cof…just a quick ole run before bed…..
DENIED ACCESS……..
Feeling a tad entitled aren’t you? Just do the easy event for the extra loot then enter.
Blackgate Megaserver – [LaZy] Imperium of LaZy Nation
Mud Bone – Sylvari Ranger
