Guild Wars 2

JasmineLong.6514:

IvanTheGrey.2941:

My dearest Lilith, I understand where you’re coming from. I have, however, just come to the place in this game where all expectations of raising the bar in terms of gameplay and customer service are totally and completely gone. That way, anything that does change for the positive will be a wondrous surprise and all the incoming nerfs will just be par for the course.

This doesn’t mean that I won’t continue to enjoy the game, or keep teaching, or keep striving to be a better solo player, teammate, or guildee. It just means that I don’t hope that the game will get better. I have gotten far more than my money’s worth from the game and will continue to enjoy it.

I’ve just given up hope that the developers will do things to make me care again. That is all.

Oh you’ll care…you’ll care and you’ll like it!

I’ll ALWAYS care about you my friend!! If you can ever make that skip from Alphard to Brie without stealth

Brutal Augus.5917:

xallever.1874:

Brutal Augus.5917:

I just wish Anet would pay more attention to customer/player satisfaction. I’m tired of speed running the same paths every day. It gets so old.

I wonder who else feels this way… hmm. Oh! Everybody here…

You seem like a troll. Would you like fries with your troll burger?

He’s really not. He’s agreeing with you. We’re all agreeing with you. We’ve just had many months of neglect to hone our sarcasm to a razor’s edge.

My dearest Lilith, I understand where you’re coming from. I have, however, just come to the place in this game where all expectations of raising the bar in terms of gameplay and customer service are totally and completely gone. That way, anything that does change for the positive will be a wondrous surprise and all the incoming nerfs will just be par for the course.

This doesn’t mean that I won’t continue to enjoy the game, or keep teaching, or keep striving to be a better solo player, teammate, or guildee. It just means that I don’t hope that the game will get better. I have gotten far more than my money’s worth from the game and will continue to enjoy it.

I’ve just given up hope that the developers will do things to make me care again. That is all.

I understand why you think that my dear. I really do. It truly feels like that however. This is my first MMO, and my first PC game, as I have said many times, and I’ve come into it bright-eyed and bushy tailed. I don’t have the weight of WoW on my shoulders, literally nothing but decades playing Final Fantasy to compare it to. I thought it was awesome. I really did. I got yelled at at times, I got kicked, I got scammed, everything. It didn’t really affect me because I didn’t know what was going on. I’m a fairly intelligent man with a degree in criminal psychology, so I was sort-of equipped to deal with the kittens that we see on the internet, so it didn’t bother me that much, or when it did, I got over it.

Then I started getting INTO the game. Started really running dungeons and Arah. Came into this forum. Learned so much from all the crazy people here. Studied vids, read boards, did some theory crafting (kept it to myself), got pretty decent at the game.

Then the crit damage nerf came for no reason at all. Then we were ignored. How long was that thread that you posted about dungeon bugs? 4-5 pages? I don’t remember. Nothing. Miku (the purple one) posted a similar thing in the bugs forum. It got ignored. Brazil (I think it was Brazil) made a youtube vid of all the exploits in arah (I think it was arah) and sent it to them. Nothing. The slaying potion change was one of the big things that started making me mad. They didn’t do anything until something affected their living story. Then fractal reset (that didn’t affect me as much, but I know it really hurt a lot of my friends on here). They STILL haven’t fixed ranger auto attack. A dev posted in the sPvP forums about ANet’s balancing thought process.

skill changes between game type(WvW, PvE, and PvP) can be hard to understand and cause confusion to some players.
As a mock example, Lets say you play PvE with your awesome build that gives you 5 seconds of fury when you use a skill and your build relies on it being 5 seconds. However, we split that specific skill only in PvP and you go play and realize only after playing a few engagements that it only gives 3 seconds of fury. Then you go to WvW and realize that the skill is back to 5 seconds of Fury.
*How does that player feel?
*What questions is that player going to ask?

• Is this a bug?
• Why is it only different in PvP?
  *Who is going to answer those questions?
  *Are they going to try and seek out someone to answer these questions?
  *Is the person they (if they do ask) going to know the actual reason for this change?
  *Is that player going to stop playing PvP or GW2 all together?
  The simplest change can have a huge effect on a player in any game, and when you start splitting skills and causing inconsistencies on top of balancing multiple game modes it can get a bit crazy for players to keep up.

Anet truly thinks we have the collective intelligence of a 6 year old and are too lazy to balance 3 game modes separately (which they did in GW1 I am led to believe).

They don’t care about anything other than L.S. and PvP.
They don’t have a dungeon team.
They actively try to make classes weaker and weaker.
They balance around PvP no matter how it may affect other game modes.

Yeah, I am miffed about the warrior nerfs, solely because they didn’t make sense. Nerf 100b? Ok… fine. Whatever. Nerf whirlwind attack? Ok, fine. Whatever. We’ll deal. Buff arcing slice at the same time? This just means that they’re actively trying to get people to move away from efficient dungeon running. It just does.

Have I lost hope? Yeah. I think that it’s reasonable for me, someone who really cares about our little dungeon community, for me to have lost hope.

Will I stop playing? Nah. I like teaching too much, and hanging out w/ you guys, and I still have 1 big goal that I’m working towards.

dlonie.6547:

New feature pack for September announced.

Week 1: PvP/WvW
Week 2: pooooosssssssibly new content / polish on old content? Might be something we care about in there. But who’s holding their breath?
Week 3: Looser item bindings?

This is just going to be more nerfs, more L.S. bull crap, more PvP crap, color changing Doritos, more PvP crap. They’ve forgotten about dungeons. Period. The only reason that we got John Smith and Grouch in here is because someone outside of this subforum convinced them to come in. We honestly need to eliminate our expectations, accept the ANet colonoscopy and just enjoy what we’ve got, because let’s face it:

We’re not getting anything else.

Of course. It’ll just take longer. Meta won’t change, arcing slice won’t be used in PvE, and life will go on. ANet will continue to ignore dungeons. We’ll make due.

I wish you best of luck finding good, repeat customers.

Totally getting dagger skin for my ele!

Brutal Augus.5917:

I mean, why not. To be honest, speed running the same dungeons everyday is getting old. Why not add a new dungeon in the dry top area, since it is currently being developed and added on to. Thoughts?

It would be fantastic.
It would be fresh.
It would be new.
It will never be done.

I’m sorry to sound cynical, but the fact of the matter is that ANet has no dungeon team at all, and by the QQing of the player base about the last fight of the most recent LS patch, we’re not likely to get anything that would remotely come close to an Arah-type dungeon.

Sorry OP. Your, and our, requests fall upon deaf ears.

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

IvanTheGrey.2941:

If it doesn’t affect their precious living story or fledgling esports, they’ll do something about it next year. Or probably 2015.

Wait if next year isn’t 2015, in which year are we living then?

I meant 2016 :/ math fail

If it doesn’t affect their precious living story or fledgling esports, they’ll do something about it next year. Or probably 2015.

You guys realize that we most likely got Mr. Norfolk either fired, reprimanded, or ensured that his contract would not get renewed for breaking ANet’s “wall of silence”, right? That he more or less confirmed that ANet thinks its customers are complete idiots, right?

We’ll probably never hear from him again. Same thing happened with Hrouda.

Purple Miku.7032:

I know something that helped me a lot when getting used to Mai Trin at first was putting my graphics on absolute minimum settings. You wouldn’t believe it to make that much of a difference but try it and see for yourself.

You’ll mutter “holy sh__” outloud in surprise at how much easier it is to react on time when in groups, especially with those guardian animations blooming the hell out of the place.

Crap! Does that work on Archdiviner too? What a GREAT idea!!! Can’t wait to try it out! Having massive problems dodging said bosses on my full height and size norn guardian This would be a gift from the gods.

That, and I really like the most of the regulars on here. You guys are crazy, terrible people who are going straight to hell (not really. Except for you Swifty ;-P ), but you’re pretty cool. The youtubers and twitch streamers are funny as hell to watch (a huge thumbs up for Eugene), and it’s a great feeling to do something that I enjoy the hell out of with people who are having the same amount of fun that I am.

This is my first pc game, and MMO. To me, it’s still fun as hell. I love pugging (I know, what’s wrong w/ me) and helping people bring their skill levels up. I get excited teaching new people or helping newbies do things in arah that they fail repeatedly on. I get really pumped when I’m pugging and someone can’t make a skip, but when I offer how to do it, and they listen, they pass it like it was nothing. I am still in awe of colsey’s condi solos, Goku and Dub’s Lupi solos, DnT, Club, rT, SC, and our dungeon speed clear records.

I guess what keeps me coming back is this:

So, I’ve been through all Arah paths, but just followed at didn’t learn very much. Dying on trash mob run/skips and kinda sucking at Lupi gets me kicked more often than not. I really want to learn, but no one in my guild wants to even step into Arah, much less show me the ropes. I’ve been studying all of Strife’s Arah videos and know the theory to everything, but putting it in actual practice is another thing. Is there a guild or anywhere I can go to learn from people with more patience than a PuG? Happy to listen and change build/weapons/whatever.
Thanks!
tl;dr: I suck but want to learn Arah. Help!

That was me, 9 months ago. Iaharl helped me immensely later on that day (or week, can’t remember exacts) and I haven’t stopped going. I want to do for everyone what was done for me.

maha.7902:

robertul.3679:

“melee lupi” is an attempt to find decent players since it seems more reliable than “experienced”.

Hardly. 99% of the time it’s just bad players looking for a carry. The remainder is actual experienced players too lazy or unwilling to solo so they’re hoping and praying they don’t get players that suck.

^ This x1000

I saw a Spotter/Frost spirit/sword main-hand/pet kitty ranger in an AC PuG today. I couldn’t believe it. I was amazed..

J Eberle.9312:

They never appreciate my art.

Did they say why?

OP, what class do you main? I can work w/ you on soloing him if you want. Just pm me in game, and if I have time/energy, I’ll gladly help you out.

Or, you could do what Liahm and I did a couple months back: Put a math problem in the lfg. If they can’t solve it, kick ’em.

I wanna punch Zhaitan in the face w/ the pointy end of my sword. Make it happen. I don’t care if you make the party massive through magic. Just let me smash Zhaitan’s face to the floor.

Hugh Norfolk.2798:

Yoh.8469:

One a separate note, how dismissive are you? Saying that people would have to learn a 2nd set of numbers if you split skills. How stupid do you think people honestly are?
Your basically saying people are so stupid, so lazy that they can’t read a skills description, and can’t comprehend that they work differently in different game modes.

I’m not saying this is intentional on your part, but it’s sounds so ugly and dismissive of your player base. Personally it just sounds like a cop out, and excuse to put as little effort and resources into balancing your game as possible. And forget about new anything to professions, what a joke.

I don’t think that was Mr. Jonathan’s intention at all Yoh. I believe he was merely saying that skill changes between game type(WvW, PvE, and PvP) can be hard to understand and cause confusion to some players.

As a mock example, Lets say you play PvE with your awesome build that gives you 5 seconds of fury when you use a skill and your build relies on it being 5 seconds. However, we split that specific skill only in PvP and you go play and realize only after playing a few engagements that it only gives 3 seconds of fury. Then you go to WvW and realize that the skill is back to 5 seconds of Fury.

• How does that player feel?
• What questions is that player going to ask?
  * Is this a bug?
  * Why is it only different in PvP?
• Who is going to answer those questions?
• Are they going to try and seek out someone to answer these questions?
• Is the person they (if they do ask) going to know the actual reason for this change?
• Is that player going to stop playing PvP or GW2 all together?

The simplest change can have a huge effect on a player in any game, and when you start splitting skills and causing inconsistencies on top of balancing multiple game modes it can get a bit crazy for players to keep up. I hope this helps everyone understand what questions and thought process we go through as a team when deciding on splitting skills.

Mr. Norfolk, I’m coming to this discussion from a PvE perspective, and in the dungeon subforum, we NEVER get a dev, so it’s nice to see that someone reads at least some of the threads on this forum.

I’m going to have to agree with Yoh on this. I’m sorry, and not to be rude, but PvP and PvE are totally and completely different in every single aspect. What works well in PvE (I run a full Berserker warrior and run through content like it was made of wet paper) doesn’t work at all in PvP. I tried doing what I do in PvE in PvP when the patch hit in April, and I got totally and completely annihilated. The excuse of your mock example is, no personal offense intended, deplorable. They’re already totally and completely different. It would take a player all of 30 minutes (if they’re not used to playing games) to discover the difference, and it would not matter in the slightest. Look at Mass Effect for example. PvE (campaign mode) is balanced totally different that the (sorta) multiplayer included in that game. It took 10 minutes to adapt, and then it was awesome.

Split the balance. The overhead excuse doesn’t hold water, as you’ve got almost three times the employees that you had when the game launched, and there’s less of a player base to balance. The server excuse doesn’t hold water either. Just upgrade your servers. Not to sound dismissive, but if you need revenue, just have a game sale, or gem store sale, or something to that extent.

It can be done, and it would benefit your players, who would in turn, increase your bottom line.

And please, send a Dev over to the dungeon subforum sometime. We haven’t seen anyone there since Hrouda left.

Please allow us to turn off/limit spell effects. Can’t see Archdiviner/Alphard/Crusher when playing w/ a guardian or any other caster class/Twilight/Sunrise/Eternity.

J Eberle.9312:

People who are complaining about x are usually the people incapable of doing x.

Truth.

Guardian not being able to kill stuff?? Yeah, no. Here’s a great guardian guide by one of the best PvE guardians out there.

I’d suggest warrior, but I’m biased.

Yes, let’s strive to make mesmers totally and completely useless. I know, let’s make EVERYTHING be non-reflectable!! That’s A GREAT IDEA!!! (sorry sandy, but ANet hates you.).

Yay! First day was a great sucess! rainynoble.6531, Sins.4782, Exciton.8942, khani.4786 and myself went through all 4 paths of Arah. I personally had fun and I know everyone learned some stuff! Looking forward to running w/ crazy people tomorrow!!

synk.8762
Mon Sang.8753
Nettle.9025
and Joe ( you know who you are if just for p4)

I’m comin’ for you! I expect you to be loud and laugh at my bad jokes…..

I think that might be mandatory for these runs: Humor Dan when he says something you might believe to be funny.

Ok, so for tomorrow morning I’ve got:

rainynoble.6531
Sins.4782
Exciton.8942
khani.4786

For Sunday it looks like:

synk.8762
Mon Sang.8753
Nettle.9025
and Joe ( you know who you are if just for p4)

If/when people go, I’ll pick whoever’s next on the list

See you in the morning!!!

The Gates Assassin.9827:

IvanTheGrey.2941:

This is an interesting discussion. Can Anet just balance PvE and PvP separately?

This is an issue in PvE as well. Warriors simply leave themselves will a full bar of adrenaline and spam skills. Now they’re encouraged to use their bursts and make sure they hit. PvE just got a tiny bit more skillful, and that’s good. Warriors are still probably kings of PvE, but at least they aren’t Tyrants.

It’s really not an issue in PvE. If you use your burst skill as a DPS warrior, you’re an idiot. Bursts will always hit if you’re targeting something in PvE. Period. I’m sorry, but this (not your response) is pathetic. Fix Rush. FIX YOUR kitten GAME. This PvE nerf was neither wanted or needed.

This is an interesting discussion. Can Anet just balance PvE and PvP separately?

Goatroth.7813:

I’ve been attempting and failing to find good videos (recent ones, mind you, such as after the feature patch) that show off a GS warrior’s damage in PvE. Not dungeons, not fractals, just regular old open world PvE.

So, my question to all you warriors out there, is what kind of damage should I be seeing on a GS warrior? I just want to know if I’ve been doing it wrong or not, because I feel like some warriors can just wreck me in terms of their damage output when I see them out in the world.

That’s kind of an open question. It all depends on traits, armor, runes, sigils, buffs, weapon skills, armor on mob, etc. Would you mind saying an exact situation?

Here you go OP. This is 11 seconds slower than Abe’s vid. (Sorry Dub, I know you were faster, but I really like Goku’s music 2 steps from hell ftw!) Do you still consider there to be “something wrong”?

Sublimatio.6981:

am I the only one who hopes for Lupi to become extremely hard? XD

You want hard? I’ll give you hard. Here’s the scenario:

You find 4 sub 1k AP pugs (not some rT or SC player on their alts). Your group should be made up like so:
1. Bearbow Ranger
2. Staff Guardian
3. Rifle Warrior
4. Yourself
5. Staff Necro

Equip them all with Nomad’s armor and full defensive traits. Tell them to range it. The whole time.

That, sir, is hard mode on Lupi. Spoj is right. It’s hard for people who haven’t fought him hundreds of times.

I would say that I’m sensing a nerf to fgs coming in, but it doesn’t affect their precious PvP, so it’s probably not going to happen, or it’ll happen next year.

He’s stuck in a movement skill. If you kill him before he finishes the motion, he won’t phase. How do you know what Anet intended or not? It’s been 2 years. We’ve beaten him in every way possible. Literally every way possible. There have been videos of 7 second Lupi kills,10 second Lupi kills, and every denomination of time greater than that. Are you saying these are all exploits? If so, it’s been 2 years. These videos have been up for that long. Even when Hrouda was watching, there were all sorts of vids. They would’ve fixed them by now.

There is no exploit, other than clever gameplay and thousands of hours of practicing and theorycrafting. We’re bored. Boredom is not an exploit.

So, I’m becoming more and more critical of ANet as these “balance” patches come up. They seriously only balance for PvP, huh? What idiots. Learn to play your own game, and don’t make it into something that it’s not: an eSports game. Fix the bugs first idiots.

Really. Seriously. What’s the problem? That Lupi can be solo’d? That he can be reflected? That the reflects do that much damage? If it’s the last case, be careful what you ask for. ANet, in their infinite wisdom will make all his attacks unreflectable. Won’t matter to me, but all the other classes that rely on reflects QQ

It would be nice if they balanced for PvP and PvE separately. I’m sure these things are great for PvP players, but it kinda sucks for PvE, and there’s no real reason behind it.

GOSU.9574:

On the topic of Arah, but a bit off topic from your thread (sorry not meaning to derail it just seems an appropriate thread) does anyone ever do Story? I don’t see anything being advertised in LFG other than paid path runs.

Looking for someone to guide through Story, need it unlocked for pvp track.

If you feel I am infringing on your thread, just say so and I will remove. Thanks!

It’s ok. To be honest, I see those “story” lfgs all the time. Just put up your own and it’ll fill pretty quick. Or just duo it w/ a friend.

JasmineLong.6514:

Naughty naughty Lilly being mean to the important people :P

Self-important you mean

What’s the problem?

Lilith Ajit.6173:

JasmineLong.6514:

I have both accounts as well, it’s nice to have the range to do that. Although I mainly use my EU account, this one, to troll forums.

Who are you on NA? o.O

And yeah my EU account is my evil alter ego. She can farm 5 points in 2 posts and often has to sit out for weeks on end. Poor Lepton. So misunderstood.

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And there’s no arguing with mods anymore. The new guy treats me like a multiple offense criminal. He said I deserve the infractions because my posting history is colorful.

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Yeah, I think that’s the same mod that infracted me for explaining what “BA” meant using proper English. It got reversed. Pathetic.

Seriously???? This freaking forum bug!!!

Gothywench.7239:

I need to patch up. I’ve been busy lately and I’m off to a convention this weekend. Carp, it’s early still, maybe I’ll log in so I can EngineerFailz. I’m terrible at it. I AM LOVING MY RANGER THO. Still haven’t tamed a bear.

BRING ON THAT BEAR!!! I WILL WALLOW IN ITS FUZZINESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gothywench.7239:

I need to patch up. I’ve been busy lately and I’m off to a convention this weekend. Carp, it’s early still, maybe I’ll log in so I can EngineerFailz. I’m terrible at it. I AM LOVING MY RANGER THO. Still haven’t tamed a bear.

Joiiiiininnnnnnn meeeeeeeeee…… us.

HOLY CRAP YOU NEED TO JOIN MY ARAH RUN THIS WEEKEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’LL SING PUCCINI!!!!

That would honestly depend on the party comp. No might stacking classes/pugs that can’t stack might? Phalanx Strength. Otherwise, it depends on the dungeon. For example, I’d never take anything other that 65003 in arah. Ever. For pugs, you need to rely on your own dps. If you’re in a good guild group, EA might be worth a shot.

Yep! Noob comms! Will do Joe! Maybe bring you in just for that p2 skip to Brie. We both need the practice :’(

Hi again

I’m going to be doing an Arah tour (all paths) Saturday and Sunday morning, approx 0900 PST. I will take any and all comers (well, just 4 more I guess, as I can’t run 2 accounts at the same time). You can be whatever class you want provided you KNOW YOUR CLASS. I’m very well qualified to teach warriors, pretty decent with guardians, and have general knowledge of eles, mesmers, and thieves, but I don’t know much about engis, necros or rangers, so I will expect you to know how to adapt to a situation that is presented to you. This doesn’t mean that the cool kidz from the forums who know Arah inside and out can’t come though! I just wanna have fun, and if I can help people understand/learn more, all the better!

I expect you to have:
Melee weapons (unless you’re an engi, then I’ll leave it up to you what to bring)
Undead Slaying potions
Life-steal food (Candied dragon rolls are great) or another dps food
One ranged weapon for Melandru (haven’t gotten that melee spot down yet)
A really good attitude
Teamspeak (a microphone isn’t necessary, but I don’t want to have to type out all my instructions)

Additionally, I request that all my trainees, warrior or not, watch this video. Brazil did an amazing job showing exactly how to melee Lupicus (apply what he said to your class). We will not be ranging Lupi at all, so be prepared for melee.

If you want to join the fun, please put your name down here. This will be a first come, first serve basis. We will start with p4 and work our way backwards. You don’t need to stay for the whole thing, so if you just need p4 for you DM title, I don’t mind if you leave after one dungeon. I’d hope I’ll have more people waiting for someone to drop

See you Saturday!!!

Erector.1458:

Hey, I was told about coming here in case if I need to know about dungeons. I need help with conquering Arah, all paths. Every group I’ve been through the dungeon with hasn’t succeeded at these attempts. The only character I have is an engineer, and I need to know what role the engineer usually plays in dungeons. Also I need to know which professions I need in the group to have, I know ranged would have to be best. Finally, what skills should my engineer have for Arah? Also my character is Golden Nightshade if you need to know my character name. Also, if you have any other tips for facing Arah, feel free to tell me please.

Please let me know if you’re NA or EU.