Guild Wars 2

Hasek.6807:

attack swings and you are rooted.

You mean like pistol whip was?

Also, how am I trolling? I sincerely would like to improve my damage.

Metalize.5680:

It was done in some other games.

You “tag” enemies when you heal/buff someone who has those enemies tagged.

Simple as that, and would go a long way.

This is a good idea…

nachtnebel.9168:

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First of all, illusions are nothing like DoTs… with a DoT based class, you can start stacking DoT’s on another target immediately after your target is dead… Also, they usually have a lot of AoE DoT’s rolling on other targets while focusing on their main target…

With illusions however, it is the Mesmers MAIN source of damage and when a target dies, their phantasms are still on cooldown… Your point is not only invalid but it is misinformed and borderline insulting.

Pros: It would alleviate frustrations during trash pulls, event zergs, open world PvE and every other circumstance where mobs die quickly.

Cons: None.

There needs to be a way to reward loot drops in PvE and WvW based on player contribution and not solely on how much AoE damage you can dish out. A lot of players are being punished with less loot due to their choice on play-style and/or weaponset.

A support oriented character has a lot less loot available to them due to their inability to “tag” targets either because of insufficient damage or having an “inferior” AoE weaponset.

I really feel like this issue needs to be addressed.

Like for instance, does iWarlock damage increase based on the power/crit on your gear in tandem with the number of unique conditions on your target?

Also what about the vit and toughness… does it increase the survivability on your phantasms as well?

25k? Incredible! Do you know which build he was using? I’d like to use that build.

I still haven’t seen any suggestions on a better build. Just a few things to note… I don’t care about survivability or utility. I just want a lot of burst damage. I don’t care how gimmicky and situational it is.

I hate jump puzzles. But the completionist in me is forced to do them. I really really hate them though. Wish it didn’t count towards map completion to get those vistas.

coglin.1496:

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There are many competent theorycrafters/number-crunchers in the community. I don’t necessarily feel like I should limit the feedback I could get, solely to the Warrior forums.

Also… I’m not necessarily -demanding- more damage. I’m just wondering/hoping, that there is another build I could use that could “eek” out more damage than the build I posted above.

There is no reason to be so impassioned. I love high damage, and I love burst. I love my Warrior.

I’m looking for some honest feedback.

Please no trolling.

If you don’t have anything constructive to add to the conversation, please just move along to another thread.

I digress…

I was toying with the build from this link:

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I think 19k crits are a bit lacklustre… at least for my personal taste. I don’t care how “glass cannon” I need to be to accomplish this feat… I just need to get my damage higher.

MUCH higher.

I think of Warriors as the quintessence of damage in Guild Wars 2. Whichever profession holds second place in damage should be a very… very far second. I’m willing to make the sacrifice of disregarding any and all survivability to boost my damage. I want my Warrior to be a reckless, bloodthirsty exemplar of death.

I would greatly appreciate some feedback so I can get my damage higher than what my current hundred blades are doing. If anyone has any better damage builds than the one I linked above, please enlighten me. Thank you so much for the feedback.

Have a wonderful day.

Celestina.2894:

It’s the same thing that happens when you get a new shiny car.

Suddenly, EVERYONE is driving that new car.

People tend to notice more of something the moment they also have it.

That is why refusing to play something that does not appear “uncommon” or “unique” anymore is a horrible reason to not play it. You’ll simply never be happy and you are simply punishing yourself while everyone else is having fun.

This was worded pretty well. I’m not sure why he’s so angry.

I would sincerely like to see MORE waypoints added to the game. All you people who like to run everywhere, nobody is stopping you.

Does anyone know?

If they removed them, I would quit playing the game.

Quick Mouse.7635:

what I didnt like about the wolf is that it has 30sec uptime on a (3min?) cooldown. Sadface.

Hounds have the same cooldown and uptime though, so that’s a non issue.

This is actually the best MMO forum I’ve seen… well… ever.

For the people who don’t like fast travel, don’t use it. If I had to run everywhere, I wouldn’t have bought this game. I hate exploring. My biggest pet peeves about MMO’s is travelling long distances. It really annoys me.

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Mistfire Wolf:

The wolf applies Chilling and Burning to foes when attacking, has a short-range area of effect skill and charges distant foes knocking them down.

After using the aoe skill, the wolf gains Air Attunement, even if the summoner is not an Elementalist.

When unsummoned, the wolf gives life force to nearby Necromancers

At level 80 the wolf has about 10000 health and 2000 armor, its auto-attack deals approximately 900-1000 damage (about 1500 on criticals), plus 600 burning damage each second. The aoe skill has almost the same damage but does multiple hits, while the charge deals about 900-1200 damage on normal hits. Chilling and burning is applied with every attack.

Hounds of Balthazar:

The hounds cause burning to foes on every attack and use leap attack which hits enemies in the area of effect.

The leap attack counts as Leap Finisher.

At level 80, each hound has about 6000 health and 2000 armor, and their attacks deals approximately 450-500 damage (about 700 on critical hits), plus 750 burning damage each second. The leap attack deals about 1800-2000 damage.

I agree. We need a dungeon finder tool… badly. “The whole, Your message was suppressed due to excessive messaging” is annoying when you’re trying to find a group.

I’m a Thief, and I’ll say, Guardian needs a much better ranged weapon. I feel sorry for you guys.

No. I would quit the game if they reset.

Reihert.1509:

I cant see how that can be good.
Not only in pve groups there will be other sources of burning, making yours getting overide quite often, but also burning only gets 25% of your condition damage (spread towards its duration).
That said, you’ll get far more advante with power than condition dmg. Also, power affects secondary status and will affect retaliation.

On solo play, I can see it working, to some extent, but you are missing a lot of “defensive” needs to survive the solo aspect of this game at 80 (many, many mobs that hits hard)

I understand… what’s the highest viable damage build for explorable mode dungeons have you found? And what gear type, runes, sigils and dance moves do you use generally?

Yeah… true… they are fixing condition damage on objects though… so I’m assuming they are fixing all creatures “immune” to it as well. And mobs don’t generally get rid conditions either. This thread is more about PvE than anything else.

Draeka.5941:

Might be interesting to play around with in PvP/WvW, but I highly doubt it’ll be effective in PvE. Building that way just severely hampers your ability to multi-role in a dungeon, especially since other professions are already building towards multiple condition damages. Since burning will (I believe) apply the highest damaging burn first, if you’re constantly spamming Justice then you might not even be the “owner” of the burning condition on the enemy.

I’d say you’d be better off spec’ing for Power/Toughness for retaliation damage and to actually take a few hits for said retaliation, and let those around you whose classes are better suited to condition damage take up the charge.

TL,DR: Focus on surviving to spread burning potential to your allies, not the actual damage. Radiance is great for this.

Wow… I didn’t know that burn (along with other conditions) worked that way… so basically, if you have a group with 5 fire DoT elementalists, the condition damage will only be recognized by one of them… and the only other damage recognized by the mob is the initial hit from each spell?

Condition damage builds suck then… why did they make conditions work like that? Not worth it at all, even if this build did have superior condition damage.

I don’t think you understand what I’m saying… I don’t care about burn duration. Condition damage increases what each tick of the burn does. Therefore I’m wondering how viable this condition damage build is…

Does increasing the burn damage through condition damage with gear, traits etc… outweigh a power precision build… the theroycrafters on that noxxic site apparently thinks so.

I would really love to know the math behind their decisions though.

Schakal.6091:

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Condition damage increases the damage of the burn ticks though doesn’t it? So I’m assuming that this build is bolstering the burn DoTs instead of focusing on the white damage. I don’t think it has anything to do with the duration… or does it? I’m not sure anymore.

I checked out this build on Noxxic for Guardian damage… and I would love some feedback on the damage viability of this build.
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http://www.noxxic.com/gw2/guardian/damage/pve/stat-priority
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http://www.noxxic.com/gw2/guardian/damage/pve/core-build-and-traits
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Apparently it says the stat priority is:

Condition Damage > Condition Duration > Power = Precision = Critical Damage.
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I’m assuming then that I should gear with the Carrion Draconic set and get some condition damage runes… not sure what the suggesion would be for sigils… but, does anyone have the math behind these stat weights?

I always assumed that the burning was just to put up the debuff so my white attacks could hit harder and therefore gear for Pow/Precision/Crit… apparently I’m doing it all wrong?

Feedback is appreciated.

Tybalt hands down. I still have hope that he’s somehow alive…

Trahearne really annoys me, I hate him.

Also, in case you wondering I have Dyscalculia.

You know, you really didn’t have to respond to the thread. As a matter of fact, I would have preferred if you didn’t. Some people actually enjoy helping the mathematically impaired like myself.

If you are not one of them then you could have simply moved on and ignored this thread instead of coming in here and being rude and condescending.

Berserker’s = Power > Precision > Crit%
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I’m a Sword/Pistol Thief… if I switch out to a full set of Power/Toughness>Vitality gear… how will that affect my damage output? Does anyone have any ballpark figures on how much I would take a hit on my damage?

I LOVE IT! Are you serious about removing this? I LOVE LOVE LOVE those sounds my human makes when I’m dancing. It seriously makes me smile every time.

I actually hate Trahearne… and he’s the only one I hate. Literally the only one. I think the OP may be pulling our chains.

I wish I could increase the frequency. I love to hear them.

I’ve seen many “guides” online… including the one below claiming that Dagger/Dagger has the highest damage potential in the game for a Thief:

http://www.noxxic.com/gw2/thief/damage/pve/core-build-and-traits
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I’m not sure how legit that information is… Nevertheless, I was told by a good friend of mine that Sword/Pistol is where its at when it comes to damage… I’m not sure if any mathematicians out there could assist in bolstering this claim?

Regardless, I love the skillset on the S/P… how close is the damage between the D/D and the S/P?

I was also wondering, what’s the best possible option for Sword/Pistol when it comes to gear stat combos weights e.g. (45 Power/ +32 Toughness/ + 32 Vitality), Runes e.g. (1 Rune of Superior Divinity, +6 Runes of Superior Scholar) and Sigils e.g. (Mainhand: Superior Sigil of Air, Offhand: Superior Sigil of Force)?

I really appreciate your feedback… and remember… “Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face.” – Mike Tyson

I did AC explorable this morning with my friend, and we were like, “Hey let’s knock out all three paths back to back…” note we do not exploit during our runs
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So we did path one first… I got 60 tokens.
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Then we cleared path 2 and…

Currently a fast run with a good group doing everything flawlessly is between 20-25 mins… the average player doing explorable mode dungeons are doing them in a little over an hour… So let’s say that’s a 50 min difference… so that’s an hour and a half of someone stuck in a dungeon. Now equate wipes… That’s easily a 2 – 3 hour run trying to figure out mechanics.

Zagdul.1502:

JonPeters.5630:

rickets.1386:

JonPeters.5630:

Plain and simple this system is a safety net for stopping crazy farming when people find exploits that make each run super fast. We are also addressing those loopholes, but that takes time and new ones might always be discovered. If you and your group do the dungeons without skipping large sections and run different chains this system shoul(bugs aside) never impact you.

Addendum for clarity, super fast means < 30 minutes, and even then you must hit that speed multiple times in a row before you start seeing any impact.

Thanks for the reply Jon, and thanks for giving a time. However, my group just did a legit maggs run and a legit AC path 2 run in 25 minutes each. Of course with the bug we all got different rewards but i will post that in the proper forum with times.

They were not death free runs and we didn’t feel like we did them as fast as we could have, so when we bring our “A” game we will basically be waiting in front of the last boss room for 10 minutes to make sure we get full rewards….not fun. But, I guess if the system starts to work like you hope and it takes multiple sub 30 minute runs in a row we should be fine.

I will also be posting links to the 2 runs we just did(as soon as they are uploaded) to prove we did them legit.

Thanks and i hope a fix is on its way soon.

Thank you this is excellent info. We would like dungeons to be legit hard enough to take closer to 45 mins but if we can’t accomplish that goal we can look at the speed clear times from non exploiters and easily adjust the system. The goal is that hardcore farmers don’t even see this thing but only exploiters. We will keep working towards that goal.

Jon

Jon, I came up with an idea that rewards people of skill.

It works like this:

You start an explore dungeon with 360 possible tokens you can get for the run.

Each death = -5 tokens.

At the beginning of each dungeon, there is a dynamic event that starts. This represents the path you’ve chosen and the percentage of it’s completion dictates how much of the 360 tokens you get at the end of the dungeon.

So, if I skip trash I don’t fulfill the event to it’s completion, therefore I don’t get the full 360 tokens. If I die a lot, again, I lose my rewards as I go through.

When you get to a boss, lets say the first one and you’ve completed 15% of the dungeon with one death, you’d get the full 15% of your tokens -5 for the death. So this way, if people need to leave, they can and aren’t penalized for real life.

If you’re able to complete a dungeon without any deaths, 100% and within a time frame, you get an achievement. Completing all paths + story mode with this achievement would award you a weapon of choice for that dungeon.

See, you’re rewarded for being skilled.

You’re encouraged to repeat the content.

You’re penalized for skipping.

This would encourage class stacking. Not a good idea imho.

ref.8196:

Jasher.6580:

JonPeters.5630:

rickets.1386:

JonPeters.5630:

Plain and simple this system is a safety net for stopping crazy farming when people find exploits that make each run super fast. We are also addressing those loopholes, but that takes time and new ones might always be discovered. If you and your group do the dungeons without skipping large sections and run different chains this system shoul(bugs aside) never impact you.

Addendum for clarity, super fast means < 30 minutes, and even then you must hit that speed multiple times in a row before you start seeing any impact.

Thanks for the reply Jon, and thanks for giving a time. However, my group just did a legit maggs run and a legit AC path 2 run in 25 minutes each. Of course with the bug we all got different rewards but i will post that in the proper forum with times.

They were not death free runs and we didn’t feel like we did them as fast as we could have, so when we bring our “A” game we will basically be waiting in front of the last boss room for 10 minutes to make sure we get full rewards….not fun. But, I guess if the system starts to work like you hope and it takes multiple sub 30 minute runs in a row we should be fine.

I will also be posting links to the 2 runs we just did(as soon as they are uploaded) to prove we did them legit.

Thanks and i hope a fix is on its way soon.

Thank you this is excellent info. We would like dungeons to be legit hard enough to take closer to 45 mins but if we can’t accomplish that goal we can look at the speed clear times from non exploiters and easily adjust the system. The goal is that hardcore farmers don’t even see this thing but only exploiters. We will keep working towards that goal.

Jon

Wow, thank you. This is much better. I was beginning to worry there Jon. hugs I knew you guys would do the right thing. 30 mins was way too long. My guildies and I were talking about this very thing, because we don’t exploit and we can do sub 20 min clears.

And also… why would you goal be 45 mins? I really think 20-30 mins is the sweet spot in terms of the fun factor, at least for me and my guild mates.

45 mins seems perfect for me

45 mins for a perfect execution would amount to hours of frustration for the average gamer. People don’t have that much time to invest in structured (team) video game activity. That’s hours of neglecting the wife and kids. Or just hours of wiping and then people leaving because they refuse to neglect the wife and kids.

JonPeters.5630:

rickets.1386:

JonPeters.5630:

Plain and simple this system is a safety net for stopping crazy farming when people find exploits that make each run super fast. We are also addressing those loopholes, but that takes time and new ones might always be discovered. If you and your group do the dungeons without skipping large sections and run different chains this system shoul(bugs aside) never impact you.

Addendum for clarity, super fast means < 30 minutes, and even then you must hit that speed multiple times in a row before you start seeing any impact.

Thanks for the reply Jon, and thanks for giving a time. However, my group just did a legit maggs run and a legit AC path 2 run in 25 minutes each. Of course with the bug we all got different rewards but i will post that in the proper forum with times.

They were not death free runs and we didn’t feel like we did them as fast as we could have, so when we bring our “A” game we will basically be waiting in front of the last boss room for 10 minutes to make sure we get full rewards….not fun. But, I guess if the system starts to work like you hope and it takes multiple sub 30 minute runs in a row we should be fine.

I will also be posting links to the 2 runs we just did(as soon as they are uploaded) to prove we did them legit.

Thanks and i hope a fix is on its way soon.

Thank you this is excellent info. We would like dungeons to be legit hard enough to take closer to 45 mins but if we can’t accomplish that goal we can look at the speed clear times from non exploiters and easily adjust the system. The goal is that hardcore farmers don’t even see this thing but only exploiters. We will keep working towards that goal.

Jon

Wow, thank you. This is much better. I was beginning to worry there Jon. hugs I knew you guys would do the right thing. 30 mins was way too long. My guildies and I were talking about this very thing, because we don’t exploit and we can do sub 30 min clears.

And also… why would you goal be 45 mins? I really think 20-30 mins is the sweet spot in terms of the fun factor, at least for me and my guild mates.

Honestly… I really hate the idea of a DR system for speed runs. I think it’s a terrible idea. Please reconsider it. Thank you.

Long story short, they took them out of the game… and the majority of us say’s good riddance.

Buying any sub level 80 gear with tokens is a waste of tokens. If you had spent them you would be kicking yourself when you get to level 80. And about bag space… they stack, so they only should take up one slot per token. You can also put them in your bank…

It seemed harder to me actually…

At least reduce the diminished returns to 15 mins. That sounds way more reasonable than half an hour.

SinDantes.3417:

It wasn’t so much being skilled at the game that was letting people clear CoF Path 2 in 20 minutes. It was exploiting.

So because there is an exploitable loophole which they can’t seem to figure out how to “patch”… they lambaste you for being efficient? Right now, only the last chest drops tokens… I see no reason for them to keep this awful system of diminished returns on “speed clears”.

It’s an abominable system and it punishes good players which is short-sighted and pointless.

Why are you punishing players for being proficient at the game and “clearing things too quickly”… this is a very stupid thing to put in a video game.

“Hey bro, you’re too good at the game… I’m going to penalize you for that.”

… huh???
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I’m very disappointed in this decision.

“If you are experiencing Diminished Returns, it is due to clearing dungeons too quickly. If you feel you are unfairly being punished by our DR system, please post about it and we will review it when possible to see if the system is working as intended. The more info you give us the better.”
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Why are you punishing players for “clearing dungeons too quickly”? Please don’t turn this game into a joke.

Xazereth.4058:

ArenaNet, can you please release an official statement regarding your opinion of PvE’s current state, the specific plans you have to actually improve them, and the future of PvE in general? If this has already been done, can a link or quote be provided?

I have consistently been trying to force myself to believe that I have been in sub-par groups. I have tried making excuses like “my gear isn’t good enough”, “or maybe its my build”. No. I can’t take this anymore. I’ve been working very hard to establish a guild on my server – I’ve recruited over 115 members. I bought a Ventrilo server. I created a website. I organize and schedule events. But no longer can I do this – after running CoF (story) again (so that my friend could obtain some better gear), I want to quit this game for good. We were in there for over 2 hours trying to kill mobs with a ridiculous amount of HP. I probably died over 20 times. After all that hard work I get 13 silver (spent about 30 silver in repairs, and had to loan 50 silver to my friend because he ran out of money repairing) and 88k experience [lmao]. He did not get a single piece of gear that he could use. This game will go down in history as one of the worst MMO games ever created in the history of mankind.

It’s a known issue. They say they are going to fix it. What a lot of us are wondering is how this ATROCIOUS reward system actually made it to the live game. Give them another shot though, just wait and see how they decide to improve it. We’re all hoping it’s a complete overhaul… the difficulty is a non issue. If they want the game to be tough as nails, bang my head against the wall hard… that’s their prerogative. They need to increase the rewards by a million fold though.