Guild Wars 2

good work on the speedy update to let the community know what happened. also a good lesson to everyone to understand how important 2 factor authentication is

zxstanyxz.8769:

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Ramoth.9064:

yes, some people read patch notes.

ooo the new mini map pings are stated in the recent patch notes ?
well the patch notes are too long.
i only read the parts i am interested in.

but you were interested in the new mini map pings… so you must have read it… :p

on topic they are great, though so far very under-used but with any luck they will be used well once the new season starts to improve communication between players

concept i think is good. what i would change is, after you’ve used one, that stays your current click ping until you change it to something else.

for ex: i want to hit the warning yellow one on a node. but i think 1 ping isn’t enough, i need to spam that mami. but i have to keep shift click drag to the yellow to spam it.

if during my map pings, i get into an engagement, its tough enough to try and fight/live while throwing up some pings.

so just make it, last used = default for remainder of hte match, unless that tougher than just making it the current default.

Just a flesh wound.3589:

Please, put some fun back in the game instead of endless numbers games.

Now describe how to put fun back in the game in a way that replayable, and something that’s fun for a substantial number of people.

Edit: all you said was “I don’t like.” That’s not constructive or useful to the devs. What they want to hear is, “I suggest that the game have this for this reason”. They have no idea what you consider fun that would be good to put in the game and have sufficient replayability to be worth their time and money to work on.

while u all mostly speaking aboot pve, re: pvp, fun is def not a part of anet’s goals, so its possible that is tru for pve and wvw too. someone said this before

consider this: if fun was a goal of gw2 pvp, we would have:

soloq
tru tdm (that 1 map don’t count an u kno it)
dueling (at least in the hotm)
something (anything) to do while waiting on queue
random arena (gw1 style or similar)
other modes (2v2, 3v3 whatevs)
original hotjoin (8v8 10v10, something like alliance battles in gw1)
… prob forgetting something….

pt is, any or all of those things could add a level of fun for at least some people

rather than seeing any of these things, we see anet push esports and team queue for conquest

therefore, fun is not a part of the current goals/strategy for gw2 pvp

i guess u could say they finally added something to do while waiting on queue by lettings you queue outside of hotm… so progress?

Jourdelune.7456:

Elegie.3620:

Bazooka: “You’re all morons, do this and that”.
ANet: “Sure. Thanks for your kind and enlightened suggestions. Be sure we’ll print them in big format and stick them to the wall, aside the adult poster of Lyssa.”

The OP is perhaps blunt. But he is right on most of his points.

mostly tru, but it could be stated simpler. when developing, creating, updating anything for pvp, anet needs to ask them selves:

“will this make pvp even moar fun?”

instead of their current process:

“does this add more esports and conquest style gameplay”

Saiyan.1704:

Josh Davis.6015:

Our shrine at the office.

The dev we don’t deserve, but need right now.

Talyn Sneider.1825:

…pvp wasn´t perfectly balanced…but heck it was fun.
..

i found your problem. gw2 pvp isn’t about being fun. it’s about esport, and conquest maps. someone said it before like this:

consider this: if fun was a goal of gw2 pvp, we would have:

soloq
tru tdm (that 1 map don’t count an u kno it)
dueling (at least in the hotm)
something (anything) to do while waiting on queue
random arena (gw1 style or similar)
other modes (2v2, 3v3 whatevs)
original hotjoin (8v8 10v10, something like alliance battles in gw1)
… prob forgetting something….

pt is, any or all of those things could add a level of fun for at least some people

rather than seeing any of these things, we see anet push esports and team queue for conquest

therefore, fun is not a part of the current goals/strategy for gw2 pvp

i guess u could say they finally added something to do while waiting on queue by lettings you queue outside of hotm… so progress?

not going to look it up, but hugh or josh or the other one relatively recently said that adding, changing, removing amulets was relatively easy change to make that can have an impact on balance.

i think thats why its done, its easy compared to class balance, but they can still the meta.

Krysard.1364:

Wait, is this legit?

looks to be a quote from a 10tonhammer article that was posted early. the link to it is down at the moment. people talking about it on reddit now

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

aaaaaah well i still do hotjoin as its faster since
no queue times
no two min warm up
auto balance fun

plus i dun play that much
as long i get volunteer reward i get to practice asa punching bag

this is wat i do too. it is a shame, there used to be at least 20+ servers to play in, and now ~3.

it used to be a quick, easy way to have some fun pvp, but anet went a diff direction, focus on esport and conquest, not on fun

DoomKnightMax.6592:

“Before I forget, you can also now queue for structured PvP without having to be in the Heart of the Mists – hallelujah!” – Lewis Burnell on Jul 26, 2016

Thankyou Anet.

that’s 1 step forward, where are the 1337 steps back that accompany it?

Filth.1479:

…….
Guild Events:
Easily the most frustrating and exclussive content available in guild wars 2………….

my fav part

Guild Wars 2: Review – Guild Events, Easily the most frustrating and exclussive content available in guild wars 2

They can put that on the back of the xpac box in quotes

Silv.9207:

Plan C:
Make 3 childs, wait untill they’re old enough to play GW2 and made your personal family premade.

i lik it. they also be good for farming pve mats so you can pvp moar

i still think pvp here could be great. but it isn’t. maybe for 2-3 matches a day (~ 1 hour if queuing) is alright. after that it is just boring.

so, solely for spvp? no. maybe wvw but i can’t speak so much to that, so maybe go ask in that forums

lets stop bumping this thread…

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/arenanet-announces-7-million-guild-wars-2-accounts-launches-new-expansion-guild-wars-2-heart-of-thorns-300165251.html

thats about 0.1771%

so… it was nice u said wut u like to see, now let it go

s2 was best. s1 was annoying w/ those teams adding ambers to lower them ratings, s3 was jus terrible. this match i got to win w/ 500-100, next i am the loser 500-100

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

Jaxom.7310:

khani.4786:

Jaxom.7310:

its a valid complaint tho. lots of posts ask for some way to just pvp, literally youse guys vs us guys (or gals). just let us battle, forget all this capping pts, respawning, mobs to fight. but anet constantly creates maps that include various pve elements, u can’t deny that.

it could have some fun to it, at least its different, but it doesn’t address the fact that lots of players just want to pvp, or player vs player. not pvpve. again, i’m not 1 who is 100% against pvpve, it has its merits, but it would be nice to have a real way to pvp w/o all this extra stuff going on

You mean you want more courtyard maps? I thought Courtyard was disliked by most (I know I hated that map).

The new Capricorn map sounds neat and while I’ll miss the underwater portion as that was my favorite map, I’m looking forward to the new map.

if u think courtyard is an actual tdm map, then u really are clueless. main reason being actual tdm don’t have respawn with a point based win system. its a tdm… when everyone on 1 side is dead, the other side wins

annihilation mode does not have respawns.
death match mode have respawns.

… ok annihilation then

Ardid.7203:

Another importan thing to add is a select box that helps you to go into worlds and maps populated by RPers. This is needed because megaservers nullified the RP servers.

Nowadays is way harder to found a map were people are randomly roleplaying… A select box to prioritize the RP preference would be amazing, IMO.

that would just be an empty map tho… unless its one of the city hubs

khani.4786:

Jaxom.7310:

khani.4786:

Jaxom.7310:

its a valid complaint tho. lots of posts ask for some way to just pvp, literally youse guys vs us guys (or gals). just let us battle, forget all this capping pts, respawning, mobs to fight. but anet constantly creates maps that include various pve elements, u can’t deny that.

it could have some fun to it, at least its different, but it doesn’t address the fact that lots of players just want to pvp, or player vs player. not pvpve. again, i’m not 1 who is 100% against pvpve, it has its merits, but it would be nice to have a real way to pvp w/o all this extra stuff going on

You mean you want more courtyard maps? I thought Courtyard was disliked by most (I know I hated that map).

The new Capricorn map sounds neat and while I’ll miss the underwater portion as that was my favorite map, I’m looking forward to the new map.

if u think courtyard is an actual tdm map, then u really are clueless. main reason being actual tdm don’t have respawn with a point based win system. its a tdm… when everyone on 1 side is dead, the other side wins

You originally asked for a map with no PvE elements, not a TDM map. Courtyard is a PvP map with no PvE elements.

if u think courtyard is an actual tdm map, then u really are clueless

they are coming just like those mounts did when we saw the frogs riding bugs in hot teasers

Azukas.1426:

zinkz.7045:

Deathmatch is a bad gamemode in MMORPGs (unless it is an MMORPG shooter), in case you missed it this game already had deathmatch and once the novelty wore off, it wasn’t very popular.

Courtyard was a joke please don’t try to use that…

its a pretty easy strawman tho

khani.4786:

Jaxom.7310:

its a valid complaint tho. lots of posts ask for some way to just pvp, literally youse guys vs us guys (or gals). just let us battle, forget all this capping pts, respawning, mobs to fight. but anet constantly creates maps that include various pve elements, u can’t deny that.

it could have some fun to it, at least its different, but it doesn’t address the fact that lots of players just want to pvp, or player vs player. not pvpve. again, i’m not 1 who is 100% against pvpve, it has its merits, but it would be nice to have a real way to pvp w/o all this extra stuff going on

You mean you want more courtyard maps? I thought Courtyard was disliked by most (I know I hated that map).

The new Capricorn map sounds neat and while I’ll miss the underwater portion as that was my favorite map, I’m looking forward to the new map.

if u think courtyard is an actual tdm map, then u really are clueless. main reason being actual tdm don’t have respawn with a point based win system. its a tdm… when everyone on 1 side is dead, the other side wins

Pyriall.1683:

Evan Lesh.3295:

There are no NPC pirates in this map that interact with players. The secondary mechanic is a periodic 4th capture point (“The Bell”) that awards increasing team score.

There was probably some confusion because once the bell is captured, there is an awesome sequence of cannons blowing up the pirate ship. This is only for flavor, though.

Was there anything changed to the “BETA” maps? I thought the purpose of “BETA” was to test and implement changes. So far, we have had the same map without any adjustments to test. All of the same issues, that have been reported, are still prevalent in each map.

… u know they didn’t. at best they adjusted the timing of this/that

Arkantos.7460:

we already had 10vs10 in pvp after gw2 release …. results into total chaotic matches with the best zerg wins …..
many ppl complained about that , thats reason why anet limit player in matches to 5
and also, simple deathmathes are boring because the best zerg vs1 wins …. do you realy want to get ganked by 10 ppl smashing ccs at you …. rly
courtyard best example … no thanks

courtyard is not an example of actual deathmatch, and if u think it is, there really is no pt in explaining it

would people prob like it? sure. but at this point it feels like i’m stewie and i just want louis to listen. you keep saying it over and over again, but i think anet is just tired and don’t want to listen

Evan Lesh.3295:

There are no NPC pirates in this map that interact with players. The secondary mechanic is a periodic 4th capture point (“The Bell”) that awards increasing team score.

There was probably some confusion because once the bell is captured, there is an awesome sequence of cannons blowing up the pirate ship. This is only for flavor, though.

that is fair enough, basically like the new skyhammer. much better than the article makes it sound.

altho, i still stand by the fact that many players would like a way to just pvp, w/o bells, whistles, respawns, etc

Shadelang.3012:

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

so they added more pve maps not pvp… havent they learn from stronghold? we want less pve in our pvp maps.

You quite literally haven’t even SEEN the map yet and your already bashing it >.< kittening wow. If you have already decided your gonna hate it NOW based on a few lines of text then obviously nothing anet can do will change your mind.

I only hope youre more open minded than you seem here. Or I imagine well be dealing with ANOTHER wave of hateposts with 0 actual feedback built in to them.

As for less pve in our pvp maps. Legacy of Foefire is still the top voted pvp map in game. And it has more PvE in it than any other the other maps aside from stronghold.

The presence of pirates like this MIGHT make it interesting for certain classes. Revenant’s and DH’s might be able to use them for mobility. Necros for things like building life force,shredding conditions, and even doing mass transfers from epidemic.

Warriors may be able to start fights at max adrenaline depending on how the “mobs” are implemented. And thats assuming the pirates are target-able creatures. They may not be. But might be far closer to a mobile map mechanic.

There are a lot of ways they could be implemented just from sitting down and thinking about it for 30 seconds. Lets actually LOOK at the map before losing our minds.

its a valid complaint tho. lots of posts ask for some way to just pvp, literally youse guys vs us guys (or gals). just let us battle, forget all this capping pts, respawning, mobs to fight. but anet constantly creates maps that include various pve elements, u can’t deny that.

it could have some fun to it, at least its different, but it doesn’t address the fact that lots of players just want to pvp, or player vs player. not pvpve. again, i’m not 1 who is 100% against pvpve, it has its merits, but it would be nice to have a real way to pvp w/o all this extra stuff going on

lots of pvp suggestions given: anet heard this

http://massivelyop.com/2016/07/12/a-sneak-peek-at-guild-wars-2s-living-world-season-3-episode-1-out-of-the-shadows/

Then you have “Revenge of the Capricorn,” a revamped version of the retired Raid on the Capricorn. The old map was removed due to the underwater element, as the team wanted to focus more on land combat (so no, we won’t have any underwater battles here). It’s a move I’m particularly disappointed with, as I really enjoyed the underwater combat. It’s a big reason RotC was my favorite PvP map. At least players will be able to enjoy some Lion’s Arch architecture again!

As before, you’ll have three points to capture, but now in addition to players, you’ll have the pirates of the Capricorn roaming the map for revenge. Players are supposed to need to unite at times to fight against the third faction. To help with this, there will be a new bell objective capturable at 3-minute intervals that signals a canon fires on the Capricorn. It also awards your team some points, and capturing it multiple times in a row gives you an additional bonus (first 25, then 50, 75). The idea is that the objective can be used as both a “winning more” mechanic or a way of making a comeback.

indeed, when offering anet suggestions, remember: how can this work for 5v5 conquest maps

well… some bad news in that department… the time gated one is a required achievement.

i think if you actually click to expand the main achievement, it’ll show a list of all the required ones, so you can’t bypass it by doing multiple class ones… :/

ReaverKane.7598:

lol, all we need in GW is more reasons NOT to play this…

truth, many things in gw2 tend to suggest you not actually play the game but do something else instead

i hear you, i feel the same. but anet does a number of frustrating things regarding pvp.

you can do the math to see if, playing the 3 matches everyday of season 4, you could make it or not. but even just 3 everyday is too much for me (same reasons as u). i had to spread it out over the 3 seasons to get all the way thru that set of achieves.

on the bright side they did say you’ll have another opportunity to get the wings, altho theres no telling what that’ll be, so it may not be for quite a while before you are able to get them

ls3 called and had to tell u:

Donari.5237:

Narrz mentioned that in his/her first sentence

I think it sounds interesting, though I’m not sure complete invisibility when stowed is quite satisfying, and the overall effect might be too ongoing flashy to bear looking at long term. I’d have to see some concept art.

the concept art is right there, he just left it stowed

if u haven’t really started, then u won’t get wings until they come up w/ a different method.

the current system reqs 60 days of 3 matches a day and some other time gate-ish things.

they sayd they will add an alternative way to get the wings after the 4 seasons finish. tomorrow we finish season 3, so only 1 season left

there’s already too much reflect in this game ><

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/The-amount-of-reflection-in-this-game

Ok I Did It.2854:

This event needs changed,

……, and there was players on the map deliberately trolling the map, and shouting to stack on the event,

……….

this is not believable. gw2 is a cooperative pve game w/ the best community of any mmo. it has kept all of the things that make for negative and toxic community out of pve, so these toxic players don’t even play gw2.

u prob just didn’t understand how the were trying to help u, it felt like it was trolling but they were prob stacking on the mobs to kill them for u

someone may want to try and get the message along to the guild in game. since this is the first post on the account i’m sure the parents wanted to get this message out to them, but prob not knowing anything about the game found their way here. very sad, very sorry to hear

Djinn.9245:

While I understand those people saying that gear / skins should never be made unavailable, there is at least one aspect of this game that depends heavily on the idea of exclusivity: Legendaries. At least some people work so hard for them because they like the idea of having something that others don’t. If Twilight started out easier to get so 50% of players already had it, and then Anet changed the method of getting Twilight to be as difficult as it is now, I bet a lot of players wouldn’t bother trying for it because “its common”.

if u rly think legendaries are that exclusive… just look around during a meta event, nothing exclusive or unique to it

Serophous.9085:

Turamarth.3248:

As an old player I completely disagree with this and hope that Anet reintroduces more skins that are no longer available.

Seconded by another old player

thirded by another oldie

mega servers make sure u are not alone most of the time, but u will want to get into maps when the meta events are going

wvw is on life support

pvp is on life support

if u find a guild that will let you raid with them, then u can raid

just make use of the lfg tool to “join in” parties and squads that are doing the meta events

Vicky.4563:

Jaxom.7310:

Vicky.4563:

Jaxom.7310:

the actual solution is to focus on making pvp fun, then worry about mmr and esports

if u make things fun, people will come, then you can try to worry about mmr and esports

You keep using the words MMR and esports, but I don’t think you quite understand what they mean.

Better balance would make the combat more fun, but better balance won’t make matchups more fun.

i think u misunderstand.

focus on making the game fun, then focus on matchmaking, then focus on esports.

when the game is fun, people will play it. when more people play it, u will reduce the q time and have a bigger pool of people to make matches for. when u have a bigger pool of people making matches you will have add’l good people playing, when you have add’l good people playing you will have more exciting and diverse games (not the same ~20 people playing each other for $$), once the games are more exciting and diverse you can focus on esports

That makes sense and that’s something I agree with.

Unfortunately the team that works on class balance/new maps/“fun” is not the team that works with PvP matchmaking and league design.

“Fun” is not going to happen for the next 6 months. Matchmaking changes will.

i would mostly agree too. i don’t know why u put quotes on fun tho. i think u can objectively argue anet’s focus has not been on fun, but on their esports ambition.

as someone once said:

if fun was a goal of gw2 pvp, we would have:

soloq
tru tdm (that 1 map don’t count an u kno it)
dueling (at least in the hotm)
something (anything) to do while waiting on queue
random arena (gw1 style or similar)
other modes (2v2, 3v3 whatevs)
original hotjoin (8v8 10v10, something like alliance battles in gw1)
… prob forgetting something….

pt is, any or all of those things could add a level of fun for at least some people

rather than seeing any of these things, we see anet push esports and team queue for conquest

therefore, fun is not a part of the current goals/strategy for gw2 pvp

Vicky.4563:

Jaxom.7310:

the actual solution is to focus on making pvp fun, then worry about mmr and esports

if u make things fun, people will come, then you can try to worry about mmr and esports

You keep using the words MMR and esports, but I don’t think you quite understand what they mean.

Better balance would make the combat more fun, but better balance won’t make matchups more fun.

i think u misunderstand.

focus on making the game fun, then focus on matchmaking, then focus on esports.

when the game is fun, people will play it. when more people play it, u will reduce the q time and have a bigger pool of people to make matches for. when u have a bigger pool of people making matches you will have add’l good people playing, when you have add’l good people playing you will have more exciting and diverse games (not the same ~20 people playing each other for $$), once the games are more exciting and diverse you can focus on esports

the actual solution is to focus on making pvp fun, then worry about mmr and esports

if u make things fun, people will come, then you can try to worry about mmr and esports

u should prob contact support, and delete this post, cause that is prob your box’s serial number or something.

Tweekin.1349:

Andraus.3874:

Yes the blue blade is supposed to disappear when stowed. All the blue glow parts on these weapons are supposed to disappear on stow.

Personably I like this bug more than the intended version

You and me both. I wish the blade stayed out even when stowed.

I wish the blade stayed stowed even when out O_o. invisiblade

Lunacy.5183:

How is class balance viability? Are most classes still pigeon-holed into 1-2 specs?

Thanks for the nice response btw

most classes are still fairly pigeon holed. in general, for most of the pve stuff, you can play however you want, even if its a healing necro or a support theif, it probably doesn’t matter.

one thing that is a stickler for many is that they added a series of skills and such with the expansion for each class. in general, these are considered an improvement to the base versions that came w/ the original game. its not a whole lot of skills to the point it completely changes the class, but it does add some features. read about them on the wiki, they are called elite specs.

if you want to do fractals, which are basically short form dungeons, you’ll want to be more in line w/ what is expected of your class, but it still not too strict until you get to the higher, more difficult ones.

they added some raiding to the expansion, i think classes are pigeon holed there more or less too. if u can find a nice guild that raids, you may be fine here too.

i’d take that other guy up on his in game offer. traits and such have changed a bit, so you’ll have lots of questions about what you are looking at in that regard.

if he/she’s not around, do a map chat in LA or divinity’s reach, someone will prob be more than ready to answer any q’s u have

Short breakdown of what changed… dne.

How is the game’s pop? Due to mega servers, it feels fine so long as you don’t spvp. in pve it feels fine. wvw is so, so, but i don’t do enough of that to comment strongly on it. I think in general it is on the up and up, but i think it still depends on your server.

dev support? decent, but for issues you should make a big stink about it on reddit, lots more eyes there

transparency? almost non existent.

content updates? have been few and far between since the expansion last year, but they are starting to ramp up to a new story arc, so it should feel good to you for now.

cash shop? still not pay to win, are some nice cosmetics and convenience items in there

cause players would knock them out in a day and then have no reason to log in for the rest of the month.

instead they added login rewards, giving u the incentive to log in everyday for a reward.

daily system 2.x i think was the best btw

joshmossas.6542:

*TLDR: Polish the game. Make it enjoyable. Then the pvp community will grow by itself. *

i think u got this part rite and i would agree there

they need to focus on making pvp fun, someone said it like this

make it fun
>more players pvp since its… fun
>better population means better Q times
> better Q (and more people) means more people will try to organize as teams
>more teams means more competition in the top tourneys
>more competition + more people can increase the drive for people to actually watch the matches
>more people watching matches means we can start to think of esports again

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

so i am currently reading this “world trigger” manga and the “border” soldiers have “ranked battles” which are basically 3 vs 3 vs 3 annihilation battles.

could guild wars 2 spvp work with something like that ?

discuss !

the issue here that is a crux of many pvp suggestions and the primary problem with them: you are thinking of modes/things that might focus on being “fun”

anets current pvp strategy does not include “fun” in it. before you give a suggestion you need to start with: “how does this work for 5v5, 3pt conquest mode”

if your suggestion does not start here, it is already being ignored

Tenrai Senshi.2017:

Hello.

As a member of a small guild, who does not want to be part of a larger 100+ player guild, I and my guildies have found the task of upgrading the guild hall to be somewhat insurmountable. While it is “possible” with enough time, the cost is vast to the point of being disheartening.

I thought of a few possible solutions of how to fix this issue, like reduced costs for guilds with less members, but I realized that such systems would be exploitable. For example, you could buy a guild hall, but don’t invite members to the guild yet. Get all your potential members to send you resources and upgrade the hall at a reduced cost, and then invite them afterwards.

So after some deliberating, I’ve come up with what I think is an ideal solution that both circumvents possible exploits, while giving smaller guilds some love.

Introduce smaller guild halls.

The idea behind this is to add smaller guild halls that are separate from the larger ones, and that specifically cater to guilds with less than 50 members. You could make it so that smaller guild halls can only be acquired by guilds with less than 50 or so members and if a guild ever grows beyond that capacity, it has to buy a larger guild hall.

Smaller guild halls will also be much cheaper to upgrade, but because of their player limit, you can’t exploit them by upgrading them and then inviting more players afterwards. Their upgrades would also be counted as separate from the large guild halls, so if you move from a small to large guild hall, the upgrades will not be carried over (this will again help avoid exploits where a large guild would first purchase all upgrades and then move to a large guild hall afterwards to benefit).

This is honestly the best solution I can think of to cater to smaller guilds, without penalizing larger ones (the average cost per player could work out to be similar), and I think this would be a great addition to the game.

u must not have known, but this game is trying to cater more towards larger groups and content that will support that.

lik others have said, you aren’t blocked out of progressing your guild hall, but its designed for big groups as anet intended

anet created these halls and raids and the like to give more organized and bigger groups of people things to do and u should be able to appreciate that this approach is for the better of the game and everyone who plays it