Mallyx awful
15 chrs
I can tell you right now, unless I’m doing hardcore content that needs some healing being thrown out. I will be using Shiro + Jalis.
Mallyx is awful in PvE because you have to rely on enemies putting conditions on you to deal extra damage back.
Ventari is alright if your team is having trouble, but he doesn’t have a lot of damage to mix in with the healing support, because if your team isn’t in need of healing you can’t camp in your other legend because you’ll need to get energy back up.
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http://dulfy.net/gw2traits#build=AgYBqAKoA6g~
Dulfy has an awesome calculator to post your traits!
I personally don’t have a build to post atm because I just got home from work…cheers!
nah i like it better the way it is now through log in, dailies, or pvp
you essentially get to play content you want with ur 80 while still reaping benifits of gettings tomes to level an alt ur iffy about
i dont like the idea of being able to buy tomes with gold, you need 78 to make a max chr after tutorial which is 156 gold @ 2g per pop….so basically 10 bucks irl cash tranferred to gold gets you max level
almost (90%+) everything that that_shaman data mines lately ends up in game
That’s all the more reason for the devs to throw in fake/junk data, though. They want to make it a big reveal, which they can’t do if it’s all datamined before they’re ready.
The staff has two weapon models, a regular and ascended version.
There is a model of throwing knife pack and throwing knife individual.
There is artwork of a thief using a staff, most likely for the specialization background.
You think they would throw in “fake” stuff that takes a bit to design when people are griping about the expac taking too long to come out?
Takes me back to the days of the Commando April Fools joke. Some people though it was funny, but a lot were kittened that they spent so much time on something that was fake and not going in game because the base game was taking too long to come out.
The beserker and forge didn’t have artwork, they were just placeholders….if they don’t have the artwork done for the thief, why would you slap fake ones on the thief and not the warrior and engineer placeholders? Or the other way around, why not just leave it placeholder to keep people speculating on rifle?
I understand thief players are grieving, and are in the first stage of denial, but there is WAY too much evidence to support that they are getting staff, in one way or another.
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Who said it was melee staff? (Even though it does look like a Bo Staff)
They could cast shadow magic from afar.
Yeah if anyone bothered to read the datamined stuff you’ll see thief is getting staff + there’s a throwing knife kit in there aswell.
What i think people are failing to understand is with the new prof a thief is no longer a Thief anymore, thats the point of the new elite profs its a completely new style of play
Ok so how are people not seeing a thief which is a primary melee prof and needs to be in melee to STEAL so it makes more sense having a new melee wep than a ranged one, sniper would fit Ranger a hell of a lot more.
i doubt it’s kits unless they remove weapon swap with the elite spec (if you didnt know engies dont have weapon swap and kits are why). also how does playing acrobatics with a staff count as a completely new play style when you guys are already spinning and jumping everywhere already anyways. Also I’ve always found datamines stuff to never be all that reliable (remember people datamined polearms in the beta back in 2012 and we STILL DONT HAVE OUR POLEARMS ANET!) so I would be skeptical of anything dataming turned up even if it gave evidence toward rifle (the one i would prefer by far over the staff for both selfish and none selfish reasons)
almost (90%+) everything that that_shaman data mines lately ends up in game
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thieves are getting Staff
there is too much evidence to support it
all the thieves who want rifle can’t keep denying it but you guys are getting staff
that being said, it is also highly likely you are getting kits as well, which could be rifle and throwing knives
This could mean thief is still getting rifle as a kit!
That or rifle is the main weapon and the staff is a kit weapon
My money is on staff being the main weapon though because the specialization pic has the thief wielding it
Yeah he says it’s pretty much a high damage build for PvE only, I will have to edit the title to put that out there.
It’s not super squishy if your used to running zerker. I can do World Bosses and dungeons with it quite well. Dungeons are “LOL” atm though because bosses are melting. I did do a fractal 28 with it among some guild mates as well, although it was much rougher and we do have a pretty good group.
You could put water trait line in for a bit more survival, he also said you could put in some Rabid I believe (It’s been a while since I watched it)
Sinister Gear
w/ Runes of Balthazar
Dagger + Focus
w/ Sigil of Smoldering + Sigil of Corruption
Variant: Sigil of Bursting over Sigil of Corruption
Food: Koi Cake
Maint: Master Tuning Crystal
Traits:
Fire132
Arcane132
Earth211 or Air 211
Heal: Arcane Brilliance
Utilties: Glyph of Storms, Glyph of Elemental Power, Arcane Power
Ult: Fiery Greatsword
Rotation: Glyph of E Power > Focus 4 > Arcane Power > Dagger 3(through target) > Heal > Dagger 2 > Glyph of Storms > Ult > FGS2
All credit goes to WoodenPotatoes, just sharing on the forums because it’s a very fun build to use!
I love everything about my warrior except one thing at the moment. Damage is awesome. All the weapon sets are viable in one way or another, whether it’s condi or power.
The one thing that I cannot get over, is the lack to swiftness. I play a GS/Axe+Mace, and the only real option I have for swiftness is Signet of Rage which is 25s on a 48s CD
I don’t know why but it makes the class feel soooo slow.
It could be that I was just spoiled by my thief, ele, and guardian, but man, some more options to swiftness just to get around would be nice.
It also feels like GS3 and GS5 is even worthless to use for movement. It may be because of the quickness nerf on them, but even without it, they seem worse than what they used to be.
Why does the usage say lead with caltrops and steal but caltrops is not on the main bar?
this build is not in it’s final stage, and is being updated constantly, he actually started the build with caltrops where the need trap is
what is a good opener with this build?
I’ve been using torch 4 before going in, Judges Intervention, and then scepter 3, scepter 2, torch 5 SWAP usual GS rotation
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ive been using it and i like it a lot, didnt have to waste gold or anything because i was running sinister on my thief already
i did have to buy the runes and sigils
I for one, LOVE Death Blossom, so this build appeals to me right off the bat. It kills pretty quick. I do not think it deals as much dmg as a Guardian or Ele burning condi tho. Burning is sooooo rediculous right now. That doesnt stop this from being a fun build though.
Warhorn actually does fit the elite spec.
You are calling upon the elements to create a viscous storm of fire, water, earth, and air….Shaman style!
So I’m building up my sinister gear set after condi got buffed, but I need some gear that can “fill in” for it.
What would you guys use as an alternative?
If you are slowed down by the timegate for charged quartz, you can buy sheets of charged ambrite on the TP, at 90s it will cost you around 20s more than crafting yourself.
ah man! I had no idea you could buy the sheets of charge ambrite!
Thanks for the info on the back item as well!
So I’m building up my sinister gear set after condi got buffed, but I need some gear that can “fill in” for it.
What would you guys use as an alternative?
This is specifically for new patch only, in testing builds, and a way to get people some builds who aren’t necessarily awesome about making their own builds.
The old thread, if you’re talking about the sticky, now has a LOT of irrelevant information.
Feel free to post there as well too though. The more information that gets out, the better!
shhhhhhhhhhhh….just let it happen
I was there the entire time from getting off work. Did the jumping puzzle with no guide, that took about 3 hours soooooo lol
Welcome to Patch Day™.
http://i.imgur.com/xA8qvVk.png
that’s the elite spec background for thieves
that bo staff model was also datamined by that_shaman
And that picture could in no way be a revenant perhaps?
Sorry good sir, you can hope, but it’s highly doubtful. It is wearing a thief armor set, as well as using the same “colors” from the thieves current spec backgrounds.
A glint themed shield was already datamined for Revenants and it’s elite spec.
Also, the only background this could be used for is MAYBE the ventari spec line, but there was also a Ventari background already datamined.
http://i.imgur.com/xA8qvVk.png
that’s the elite spec background for thieves
that bo staff model was also datamined by that_shaman
Calm down young grasshopper!
I do not think that thief getting a staff is a bad thing.
The Revenant staff was already revealed as a melee staff user, so I think the thief may be getting a bit of a ranged staff option, perhaps called the Shadowmage, or something to the likes. I believe this to be because the Revenant is the new hotness, and they don’t want to dilute the new hotness by giving melee staff ALSO as an elite spec for another class.
I do believe their staff option is going to be ranged. I can only imagine the uproar if it was another melee option.
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Condi damage being a bit too strong is not a bad thing! Power was strong for 3 years before you finally brought Condi damage up!
I am also not a maker of builds, but I came up with this just now after logging on for the day after getting home from my job.
http://dulfy.net/gw2traits#build=AgIBqAJ0BLQ~
it’s working pretty well
Don’t want two character slots?
Contact support and downgrade to standard.
Want those extra goodies?
Keep what you have and get those goodies and ignore the 2nd extra chr slot.
GG
There’s a lot of “anger” from a small portion of the community over the pricing of HoT. Some of it is from the misconception that Anet should price the game at a price that’s favorable to the individual player. However, this suggestion isn’t about them. It’s for those of us who can see through the false clouds of negativity, and understand that the Ultimate package is the best deal in town……
SnipAhhhhh. How fast the tune changes when it’s no longer the best deal in town, for them.
Lol.
lololol
too good.
Let me use a real world example of this. Say you purchased the Collector’s Edition because you really liked that Rytlock statue. Then a week later, Anet says that all players will get a Rytlock statue, and Collector’s Edition players will get 2. What do I do with the extra statue, since I only really needed one.
Ebay? Sell it to a friend?
Unfortunately, I can’t sell or even gift my extra character slot to someone else.
My ebay reponse wasn’t to solve your extra character slot dilemma, I used it to solve ur real life situation.
Your extra chr slot is completely free without paying more.
You bought the ultimate because you liked the gems, slot, mini, and other stuff, so you would still have had to pay 100.00 if this slot was given BEFORE the bundles were even announced.
If you bought the ultimate edition just for the chr slot, ask for a refund and get the standard now instead.
If you want to keep the ultimate set at 100.00, then you obviously think the extra goodies are valuable enough to you to pay 100.00
If you paid for the deluxe version just for the character slot.
You’re a kitten fool, and should’ve bought the 50.00 base game and bought 10.00 in game chr slot, and saved yourself some money, and you deserve to be burnt by this.
Otherwise, you bought the deluxe because you wanted the slot plus the other goodies, so you’re not losing any value.
What if you bought it because you valued the other goodies and the SLOT because you needed one? Now the extra slot removes the need for that…
People really need to stop thinking others bought the upgraded versions JUST for the slot, the slot was simply a FACTOR in their decision to buy,
Jordu was responding to the guy in an earlier post who was saying he was upset that ANet gave out a free character slot for each edition, and the reason he paid for the Deluxe was for the character slot alone. That guy is an idiot, since character slots are $10 a piece.
He finished with, if you [any reader] bought the deluxe for the slot and the other goodies, you didn’t lose any value.
+1 my good sir
Let me use a real world example of this. Say you purchased the Collector’s Edition because you really liked that Rytlock statue. Then a week later, Anet says that all players will get a Rytlock statue, and Collector’s Edition players will get 2. What do I do with the extra statue, since I only really needed one.
Ebay? Sell it to a friend?
If you paid for the deluxe version just for the character slot.
You’re a kitten fool, and should’ve bought the 50.00 base game and bought 10.00 in game chr slot, and saved yourself some money, and you deserve to be burnt by this.
Otherwise, you bought the deluxe because you wanted the slot plus the other goodies, so you’re not losing any value.
What if you bought it because you valued the other goodies and the SLOT because you needed one? Now the extra slot removes the need for that…
People really need to stop thinking others bought the upgraded versions JUST for the slot, the slot was simply a FACTOR in their decision to buy,
You still would have had to pay 75.00 to get the other goodies.
This extra slot should be looked at as a FREE loyalty item.
If you paid for the deluxe version just for the character slot.
You’re a kitten fool, and should’ve bought the 50.00 base game and bought 10.00 in game chr slot, and saved yourself some money, and you deserve to be burnt by this.
Otherwise, you bought the deluxe because you wanted the slot plus the other goodies, so you’re not losing any value and thus getting a FREE loyalty bonus.
Hopefully our german retailer Saturn will have it in stock. Games at Gamestop are 99% of the time more expensive than anywhere else. We don’t have Best Buy and Newegg (never heard of Newegg)
Unfortunately, Saturn is not on their “Officail Retailers”, so you may or may not get the the pre-purchase bonuses.
Newegg is a website.
www.newegg.com
How will the additional character slot work if I preorder at GameStop or Amazon tomorrow? I really want the boxed edition, but I’ll order it digitally to get the character slot though. It’d be a shame to have to go without the box though
You HAVE to pre-purchase from Best Buy or Gamestop. You have to pay in full. If you pre-order you don’t get any of the bonuses, including Beta Access or the exclusive Title.
You will get the code on your receipt, and you must apply that code to your account before HoT launch. If you don’t, raise hell with the retailer and let them know you are pre-purchasing, not pre-ordering. It’s really hit or miss on whether those Gamestop employees know anything, most of them have a “deer in the headlight” look when i ask them about a game.
Gaile, so what happens to the people that pre ordered the more expensive additions because they wanted ONE character slot for the expansion?
I bought one of the pre-orders that had a slot because I wanted the character slot and figured I might as well get other stuff… Now that the char slot is free, makes me feel a little different about the value of the pre-order.
They will make new races playable in the future and probably won’t be giving a character slot for those.
So save it for later.
My bad
I just read the FAQ.
Can I pre-purchase through my favorite retailer?
Yes. Starting on June 23, 2015, you’ll be able to pre-purchase boxed and digital editions of Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns from our official retail partners. You may also be able to pre-order through retailers, but there is no official pre-order program and pre-purchasing is the only way to receive the benefits of our pre-purchase program, including access to all of the Beta Weekend Events.
Note that the Ultimate edition is only available for purchase in-game and via buy.guildwars2.com. Additionally, there won’t be an option to upgrade to the Ultimate edition later if you decide to purchase the Standard or Deluxe edition.
So it does look like you’ll be able to pre-purchase a boxed version from the official retailers of Arenanet which is Best Buy, Gamestop, and Newegg. This does mean you will have to pay in full, and you should recieve your code to upgrade on the receipt, or if through newegg, it will likely be in an e-mail. You also need to do this before HoT launch.
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Thank you SO much for listening!
I had already pre-purchased because I am loving GW2 and I’m a longtime fan from 2006, but sorting this out just reaffirms why I play your game instead of other companies who would have just brushed this under the rug.
Cheers!
Was about to ask the same question
It says that anyone with an older account that upgrades (with no deadline to upgrade) will get the slot. Presumably you could upgrade months after HoT releases from any vendor and still get the slot.
You read that wrong. It says:
For all players who registered the core Guild Wars 2® game prior to January 23, 2015 and who upgrade their account by prepurchasing and registering any Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns edition before Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns‘ launch, we will add one additional character slot to your Guild Wars 2 account.So, I understand that includes boxed editions as long the upgrade is made before the official launch. Is that right?
Nada. The boxed edition is a launch version of the game. The character slot is a pre-purchase bonus only. You only recieve the character slot as long as you pre-purchase and upgrade BEFORE the launch date of GW2: HoT.
nice headset bro, I’m rocking the same one
Glad you’re excited for the new expac!
- Elite Specializations/New weapon for each class
- New Magumma Zones
- 2 Zones dedicated to Guild Halls (why wasn’t this from the start…?)
- New Class
- New Confirmed Challenging Content
- Additional Maguma Jungle Masteries.
- HoT Personal Story addition
Living story is HIGHLY likely to be focused on the Magumma Jungle zones, so if you don’t have expac, you probably wont be able to do it, so I personally would add that in there, but opinions I guess.
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….is pretty fine to me.
Look at all the things we are getting with HoT.
- Elite Specializations
- New weapon for each class
- New post level 80 leveling system
- Rumored 5 new zones with 3 “sub-sections”
- 2 Zones dedicated to Guild Halls
- Guild Halls
- New Class
- New WvW Map
- Various new WvW mechanics
- New sPvP Map
- New sPvP Mode
- New Confirmed Challenging Content
Then later on down the road….you’ll get Living World Season 3 and 4, if we assume that it’ll be 2 season between each expac. You also get more feature packs, and more balance patches. You could sink hours upon hours into this expansion.
That is awesome for just 50.00
Does it suck that only new players really get a bonus item? Sure, but that doesn’t mean the price of the expac should change for us veteran players.
I do think a character slot would be a reasonable bonus to veteran players though.
Despite all the bullkitten that has been going on in the forums I am glad to see this thread is still on the first page. I feel for you guys, facing such a loss is never easy. I hope Anet pulls through and does something special for guys.
The GW2 community is an extremely nice community. However, we are very passionate about our game, so much so that I think we are more passionate about it than the devs to a point haha. We tend to voice our thoughts a lot more than some other communities if we feel wronged or we don’t like the way the game is going.
To the OP, I am sorry for your loss, and I too would like you to get a memorial for your guild hall.

