Guild Wars 2

hahaha Zax, I WISH!!!

Seriously Anet I WISH, please make it happen. :P

Came here to see if anyone posted this yet as I seen it on reddit. Found it an enjoyable listen. I like speculation videos though. Interested to see if some of the more lore heavy people who visit here can poke some holes in it.

GOBBLE GOBBLE GOBBLE

“Did you read the part in this thread that opening 75 thousand bags, or forging 25 thousand pebbles isn’t a solution? Or forcing people to make alts to reap rewards for puzzles they didn’t do? Before you skip reading them too and respond anyway: these are generous estimates, the real numbers are likely higher (and not cheaper either, although that is merely a nasty side effect of the core design problem).”

Why is it not a solution? It certainly isn’t a solution you like, that I understand.

If it is such a problem then why are their hammers everywhere? It’s not a rare legendary to see at all. 2 Guild members are nearly ready to complete theirs and doubloons were not the road block at all.

It’s possible I am simply too ignorant on the subject at hand but I don’t see it to be the glaring problem that some in this thread do.

edit: They haven’t really made getting a precursor easier, I don’t see them making these easier to obtain either or changing the recipe. Would love to be wrong on this but if it’s been ignored this long then I find there is very little hope of change.

“Of course I care about the value. Why should collectors not care about value? In real life collectors value value, too.”

I suppose this is true. I don’t care of the value once I have the item. It’s my collection, I have no plans on selling it. Perhaps I am a poor collector then.

Many years ago I used to play and collect Magic the gathering cards. I made it a point to collect power 9 long before they were selling for hundreds of dollars, I was lucky to be in the game early. I still have several sets and after reading this post I went to look up their value… All I can say is, tempting to sell but I love that collection and the memories it holds for me.

most of you are either far more lucky than I, far better at time management, or far better at playing the TP game. lol

If you are a collector why do you care about the value of the collection? Are you going to sell it? As a collector I want to have the complete set, money and or their value isn’t really that important to me. Cheaper is better in fact.

I skipped Halloween. Probably against my better judgment. Last month we have 2 sets of 4 (2k gems) and now another 1k gems this month (which was expected). I don’t really like the looks of these minis so I stopped. Collecting in this game is very difficult. First dyes and now Minis.

kind of a different topic I suppose. congrats treeline on your mini, I know how bad you wanted him.

I was mistake on the number of charged lodestones for the legendary weapons. Still Mjolnir and Infinite Light require more and aren’t even legendary weapons. They aren’t even ascended at this point.

You can farm chests for these, combine pebbles in the forge, and open bags just to name a few ways of getting them. I don’t see them as any worse than charged lodestones and in some ways are far easier for me to get. I see 3-6 a week without trying. (these are from chests)

what players seem to really want is an easy recipe for copper to silver. This wasn’t left out on accident and obtaining them wasn’t a mistake either. Perhaps the low level requirement was unintentional but these mats are meant to be a pain to get. Design flaw or not there isn’t an easy fix that won’t hurt the market currently. I also see tons of the hammers all over the place, so it can’t be too hard to make.

I am still wondering why this is an issue? They aren’t even that expensive when compared with some of the other legendary components.

A lot of things in this game are RNG, we all know most players don’t like that and in many cases you can simply buy them from the TP. That is not my preferred way and I understand it isn’t what most want, but that is how this game has and continues to operate.

we all know it works. Their quarterly calls confirm that. Supposedly it works really well. This doesn’t mean the player base likes it. Gambling in general can be very addicting to some. Even if you look at toys for example, this has become more and more popular. Sadly it isn’t going away.

My nephew buys these trash can guys, they are random pack where you don’t know what you’ll get. He can’t get enough of them.

well put post Vol.

It is the way it is. If you don’t like it then don’t bye it. Crappy way to think about it, but it is what it is. With new MMOs coming out next year, all with cash shops selling cosmetics etc, maybe this will make things more competitive though I doubt it.

This is very sad news. Not sure why management decided against it but I would have enjoyed that music box far more than the Rytlock statue sitting in a box in my closet.

Vol: I would love to pay for it. I want to pay for the dye I want. I do not want to pay for an RNG CHANCE at a dye I do not want. Why does it have to contain 19 common dyes that are worthless and not new at all?

I know the response will be “Buy gems and convert to gold” this is a terrible solution. I am willing to pay and have paid IRL cash for items in the gem store, but RNG is out.

This game is not alt friendly, it is not collector friendly. One of the original arguments put forth by arena net for why dyes are not account wide is they wanted your characters to have some individuality. The truth is, it’s a money grab. Its a good money grab. Once they realized how well RNG works in their favor it was only a matter of time before they added that feature to dyes and anything else they can fit it in.

This isn’t a revelation by any means but I’ll continue with each RNG dye pack to voice my opinion on the matter and hope they change it. (I know they probably won’t)

“You actually BOUGHT 75 toxic dye kits? Sorry, but if you are that foolhardy, you deserve the narrowest RNG range possible.”

Why? Why should this person be more punished than anyone else? I agree that buying that much RNG is silly but I’ve done it for silly fusion tickets. I learned my lesson on the matter.

On the topic at hand. I love the color green. Clearly I am in the minority in this as the green dyes weren’t are popular. (lucky me – sort of)

Blues, and Purples are a lot more popular colors wise and so the prices are way higher on the TP. I don’t think it’s less people buying them, although that would be nice.

As of yesterday afternoon there was an average of 30 dyes of each of the new colors with the exception of Limenotte (sp?) which had about 78 (seems the most common or least desired). We know the drop rate is bad this mean a lot of pack are being opened for these to get posted.

unfortunately for those of us who dislike this system Anet is making what appears to be lots of profit.

I still propose that if they want to keep the RNG nature of these dyes make in 1 of the 6 not 1 of 25 with 19 terrible fillers no one wants.

Someone else suggest that these special dyes only be account wide which would be amazing. We probably won’t see that though.

400 gems for the gloves zudent, and 400 for the shoulders. 800 total for 2 pieces.

Still waiting to see what you do to necro’s. Full response for all classes in the future would be nice. I realize that is probably a lot of work but it’s better to include all than exclude some even if it takes more time.

Beldin: You are buying the whole armor set (6 pieces) you can choose to use them however you like. In this case there is no choice, you can get 1 piece for 400 and 2 for 800 but there is no full set and a la carte is way out of proportion.

awesome.

Jon I realize you guys are very busy. I want to believe that you guys haven’t responded yet because you are combing through these posts to get a proper idea of where to take necromancers. Please keep us in the loop as best you can, or at least on par with the other classes.

Thanks.

“This was expected for me. B2P had to come with some tradeoffs.” I suppose you are right. Really wish we were getting an expansion sometimes soon to help pay the bills rather than paying more for less in the gem store.

I am not going to lie and say I do not complain on the forums. I do. However that doesn’t mean I don’t love this game, or enjoy it. I do love this game, I do enjoy most of the content released. Because this is a positive thread I’ll leave it on a happy note.

Been posted else where on these forums, it would seem a lot of us are a bit shocked by this. Myself included.

First we have full armor sets at 500 gems. This changed to full armor sets for 800 gems. Wasn’t thrilled but hey still full armor sets and we really needed more armor skins. Now we get gloves and shoulder (2 piece set instead of 6) for 800 gems. I am not loving the trend here.

edit: These skins aren’t in the sPVP locker yet. Probably an oversight. However as I posted in the bug forums I am still waiting on a slot of my Tybalt back pack and it’s been months.

100% agree. I’ve stated this elsewhere a million times I am sure but I have a complete set of normal dyes on my first character. I have several 1/2 completed sets on all my alts. Then comes flame and frost, I did buy into it and tired. 2k gems later I had 1 of the new dyes and I gave up.

I love dyes but they aren’t worth 30g+ and I don’t want to spend gems at a chance I know I am going to lose, plus they are character bound and not account bound. Simply put this is just one of many things in GW2 that aren’t collectable or alt friendly.

I am still trying to come to terms with this, by now you would think it wouldn’t upset me in the slightest. However every RNG pack I see continues to annoy me.

Thanks Penguin. Clears it up for me.

A fair point Jazz, sadly that isn’t the reason arena net has allowed them to be bought and sold.

On the other hand if you are unable to complete a certain part of the game that is required for the legendary then you don’t really deserve it. That sounds really harsh I know. :/

I see at the top of these forums 2 posts about Grey Market. I have no idea what that means, can someone educate me?

It makes me sad that legendary weapons can even be sold. I am ok with pre-cursors (although I wish we had more ways of getting them) but something feels wrong about selling a legendary. Doesn’t feel legendary at all.

As far as time available, we aren’t sure. I would guess you’ll see them until at least the end of the month though. The Dec 10th patch or so will probably see them go, if they aren’t permanent. I kinda hope they are like the other armors in the gem store (not for me, but for those who want them).

Drucilla: I’ve been there with flame and frost and refuse to go back, sorry you didn’t get a better haul. I would be ok with their RNG dye system if it was 1 of 6 and not 1 of 25 with 6 specials. Up until flame and frost I had all the dyes on 1 character and several others 1/2 complete their collection, this killed dyes for me sadly.

Music is terrible. (opinion)

We need quality lasting content, real solid balance changes to all classes in which we are told there isn’t enough time and or money to do them all justice right now. Still no expansion but they are spending money on trailers and “epic” rock music for 2 week patches.

I had forgotten that the original armor sets were 500 gems (what a steal they are in comparison).

So we go from 500 to 800 for a 6 piece set of armor, already a fairly steep rise. Then we go from a full set at 800 to gloves and shoulders for 800… what’s next?

To make matters worse you can’t reuse this skins without a transmutation stone, you only get 1 set, so you have to choose between sPVP and PVE. I really just wish the gem store was better than it has become.

These do not seem to display while viewing them? Too scared to even attempt to buy them incase they do not show with this armor set.

Also there is no place for this in sPVP locker and Tybalts back pack still doesn’t have an sPVP slot for months now.

No more RNG dyes. I already have to buy this on each character if I like that color, this would be slightly more acceptable if they were account wide but they aren’t.

400 gems per piece is silly, who makes these prices up? Why are we now paying 800 gems for 2 pieces instead of a full set?

400 per piece is way too much. I don’t want to hear the same ol, “it costs too much” we are paying for it. RNG dyes, less than full armor sets for the cost of a full armor set, etc etc.

It’s bad enough that most of this stuff can not be earned by playing the game itself (earning gold to convert is not what I mean) but now we are paying for a full set of armor but only getting 2 pieces. I am not a fan arena net.

While on the subject there is no slot of this in sPVP? Tybalt backpack still doesn’t have a slot either. And if I do spend 800 gems on this I get to use it once for one type of armor. I don’t even get to share this with sPVP, I have to choose PVE or sPVP and which class I want to have it.

tl;dr I am starting to feel nickeled and dimed for everything in this game even if that is only the half truth. I apologize for the small rant.

More RNG dyes, thanks for listening arena net. Thanks.

edit: Also 400 gems for shoulders, and 400 gems for gloves. So 800 gems for 2 pieces and not a full set of armor? How does this pricing make sense? Who makes these decisions at arena net?

The main post about changes was updated twice today and within the next day or so we should hear some more feedback from them. By the end of the week they are locking that thread more or less all input they can receive will be locked down by then as they need to get to work on testing whatever changes they plan on making.

@Kitedyou:

Why would you go out of your way to attack another individual on these forums?

As a community aren’t we trying to fix the perceived problems with necromancer?

Up to now I haven’t seen any of your recommendation as to what needs to be looked at or doesn’t need to be looked at. The only thing I can garner from your posts is that everyone else need to L2P and that you like calling out community members as arrogant.

Those food buffs are used all the time, especially in a zerg. It sounds like you don’t play in that format but are probably a roamer. Nothing wrong with that, but it doesn’t mean that because you haven’t seen it, that it isn’t used often. I see it being used everyday.

also:

“The issue is people don’t want to take the time that is required to learn a Necro and how to best use them in certain situations. So they whine and complain until things get screwed up for the people that seriously love the class.”

According to you necromancers are fine and don’t need nerfs or buffs we are perfectly balanced and it’s simply a L2P issue for the rest of us.

Just to name a few,
Ascii, Nemisis, Rennoko, spoj, Bawh

All of these guys need to learn the class better? They simply don’t understand necro? I find that very hard to believe.

Yeah no idea why this did not occur to me until yesterday but I am with Zax here, they will be gem store skins just like Rox and Braham’s. I am ok with that, means I will actually be able to get it.

On the other hand this mean that if I want it for sPVP I need to buy 2, or 3 in the case of the dagger. lol When you buy a skin from the gem store you really should get the sPVP and PVE version or let you use that skin as many times as you want.

Thanks Birdn I’ll give it a try. I haven’t played the build much other than to toy with it in the mists, Conditions haven’t been an issue yet, just looked like it could be.

My issue is more trying to keep the bone minions alive, they seem to be the only ones that die. But I believe that is more me not paying enough attention to their health, they can be fragile.

I was thinking of mixing soldiers with clerics. Thoughts on this. I did a little testing in mists and using a soldiers neck with cleric stone was pretty effective and got my health nearly 30k.

Little unsure in wvw and pve where to split things though. How much HP do you recommend to be as effective for healing minions (I assume this is the main reason for it?)

any tips on keeping the bone minions up, they seem to have the shortest life span. Might just be a practice thing

edit: Considering going staff as well but then I think that defeats the purpose of this build which is to life steal.

edit2: I just realized while looking this over again. How do you deal with conditions? No removal? Is the goal to heal through it? I’ll have to seriously test that out.

Jon thanks for posting, I look forward to further discussions about these Dec 10th changes. I assume by your post that nothing is yet set in stone and maybe the community here can further outline the problems as we see them and this will give us a better understanding as to how you as developers view them.

Pretty good video I enjoyed it. Been looking for a MM build for my wife as she enjoys them. I am going to have her give this a go.

As for the ones who said cleric would be bad and doesn’t scale well. Can you explain a more proper choice with this build and why? We don’t have a lot of gold to throw around buying different set of armor and weapons and need to make the proper choices. She mostly PVEs with some WVW once in a while.

As for the video. You don’t talk or seem to explain why you use the well, or how this effects pve at all, or some of the other choices you might take. I realize this is most a sPVP build or seems to be aimed at that. However if you are going to make recommendation for say PvE then please say what and why you would make those choices. Just makes things a little more clear for those less familiar with the class in general. Quick example, you say in PVE warhorn might be a solid choice but don’t talk about the sigil or why it’s good in PVE.

I also realize there might be time constraints on the video itself. Still found it enjoyable to watch and was easy to follow. Thanks.

something to keep in mind which a lot of players seem to forget. Just because it was data mined doesn’t mean you’ll see it in game. On the other hand a lot of players here on the forums seem to want these things. They should release them and make their money.

Jon and other staff members. I look forward to reading about Necro’s and your reasoning.

Well build gets slightly better with these changes except with staff and the nerf to #2

I don’t play a thief much but my wife does. Doesn’t look like P/P is any more viable than it currently is huh?

“•Curses VIII – Banshee’s Wail. Increase cooldown reduction from 15% to 20%.”

Can someone correct me on this. Didn’t Banshee’s Wail just change recently?

Always appreciate your videos Nemesis will check it out soon as I get home from work.

Seems to be a lot of responses here already. But I play content every month I don’t enjoy just to get the AP or the rewards attached to those metas. There is content I do enjoy but a number of the more pointless grindy things or chasing down 50 balloons etc I do not consider fun.

The doors in the open world did not seem to count at all. I closed 4-5 to check and none of them counted towards this achievement.

There doesn’t seem to be any. If there are a ton of people in there then it seems to be fine. I am on a high population server, but I assume by now most players are done with Halloween. Which is fine.

I ran in there last night and today to try and close 5 doors for the achievement. This took me hours. It wasn’t fun and was frustrating. There were about 3-4 people including myself on the main server. All boss doors are out of the question and at one point no matter which side I would port back to and then reenter the Chainsword boss would almost be instantly there. I felt like I was being spawn camped in PVE. Kind of funny that I think about it now, but it certainly added to my frustrations.

Is there no scaling for this instance? If not, then why not? You can not turn a corner without facing 6 mummies and 3 skeleton archers all whom push and pull you around the instance until you are dead, or until the chainsword skeleton shows up and rips you a new one.

Just a suggestion Arena Net but you might want to look at scaling for this next year. It’s ok when there is a zerg of people inside but I can only imagine how this event plays out on low population servers.