Guild Wars 2

Apparently if you have a successful run where you kill all three heads, the achievement bugs. However, if you fail but kill a head it registers. Makes sense.

Not true. Got my last wurm head on a win.

I blame Arena for making achievements so hard to get.

They should be, far too many of them are easy to get. The Wurm for example doesn’t ever require you to actually win the event.

It was taxied. Had only ~3 people that were not from the guild. But regardless, less people fit on an overflow than on a main server, so we had to work with less people. ^^ (And overflow have bad lags sometimes -.-)

Has this been confirmed somewhere?

The difference between Deso and TxS is that on Deso you have a bunch of guesting ppl aiming for achievements wishing to kill the wurm where TxS actually takes its time to prepare for the event and teach the ppl in the guild

This actually makes the fight easier. Having all from the same guild and not having to deal with random players coming in to throw a wrench in plans.

Most people probably know by now, kills can be done with about 44 players per head or so. So 46 is about right.

I have to be honest when I say this feels like you had the story planned. Came to the idea of a new wvw map to fix que issues, as well as add more wvw-ish content and then thought “how do we attach this to the LS”. Have to say that even if this is isn’t the case, it certainly feels that way.

I was not a fan of her being in the fractals, and I am certainly not a fan of her being in the new wvw map. It feels shoe horned in and I don’t even know the story yet. To be honest I don’t even want to know at this point. That is very unfair to you guys who wrote the story. But that is how I feel as a player.

@ Ronah :

I feel that TS or a voice chat program is a requirement if you want to beat this harder content. I am sorry but it has been proven all week that you NEED to be on and listen and know what the plan of attack is with each attempt. It simply makes life easier.

Sometimes you need to run certain builds, use certain consumables, etc. It is simply easier to communicate problems that can and do arise during the encounter.

For anyone not willing to simply get on TS and be part of that experience (which is free) you are hurting everyone who is at that event. And I find that rather selfish.

Players are certainly entitled to play how they want, but that doesn’t mean it spells success.

While on the subject I want to give a big pat on the back to those AN employee’s who are on blackgate. Especially Evan and Shazz. Both have been a big help and super quick at getting the maps reset.

I am standing next to outcast. INKS

Really want to see someone get the rifle.

TY Deso, many of your tips were helpful.

Big congrats. I can see my Horns on my asura in one of those pics. Congrats to everyone who was there. BGers as well as our guests.

What if you have the “wrong tools” – let’s say my molten pick gives azurite crystals – and 3 months down the line your precursor requires 10.000 sprockets to craft? Should I fill up 40 bank slots with sprockets now, in the event that happens? What if it requires 10.000 pristine snowflakes, and I wasn’t in time to get the “unlimited ice pick”?

I am not a fan of the new tools bonus. However what you’ve said above is missing one thing. If you do not buy this tool and it’s “required” for something else but you do buy the “snowflake” tool; then you simply trade snowflakes for sprockets. While their prices might not be the same this is what most players would do I think.

I am more concerned with them updating old tools to do an extra something and making me pay for said upgrade. I did not want my tools account bound, and now I have to pay extra for that. I understand why many want it but I did not need that gem hike.

No, just no. The idea of this pick is just wrong and it should get scrapped, like a piece of potentially gamebreaking junk it is.

It’s simply too late now. The did listen and removed the flame light armor because of that debacle. Once they reverted their decision and took it down to retool it, there were just as many people happy about this as mad about it.

So even if they decided. “yeah we messed up” and took it away you’d have just as many who paid for it and are now angry about the change. This is no win win by doing that sadly.

I like the new circles. Some of the older ones are hard to see for a number of people. These new ones are generally much easier to see. Simple as that for me.

Prepare to get either zerg rolled or roamer gibed. Should be a lot of fun for those players.

Going to be honest. I generally wvw once or twice a week so I am already very casual at that content. I do use and have characters set up for WVW with the right build / gear , etc.

However,
This new map will do a few things for me. I will explore it and enjoy what I can from the new map. I will see what AP I can get from it, if there are specific ones. I will complete the meta. And then I won’t use it again until Season 2 starts and I am stuck in que.

We’ve had similar results in getting people to stay but not all 150. With random DC’s, constant map resets, and constant bugs from the wurm, It has been impossible to keep the same dedicated people on the same map.

We have been plagued by people who simply will not get on TS, not run DPS builds, and simply not listen. This is the hurdle most have to deal with. Congrats again on accomplishing that. I think that is even greater than beating the wurm.

If I had some advice for AN. I love these encounters, even not beating the wurm I still love it.

1: Make an achievement for actually killing the wurm and completing the event. As it currently stands you never have to win the event to get the title. How does this makes sense?

2: Require a large number of people, 100+ but not actually the MAP cap. You need almost all 150 in order to beat this event. It seems you need about 44-46 per group in order to win phase 2. This doesn’t leave much room for afkers (which you can do nothing about) and just general people in the map who don’t want to listen or work as a team.

Thanks for everyone on Deso for answering questions and providing feed back so far.

I don’t like it at all. However it will probably drive PVERS from wvw. Even though this new map is more pve heavy then the current map it’s still an open world-ish pvp map. This means a good deal of them will go in there to see the story, check out the new map and either get run over by a zerg, or gibed by a solo roamer. Either way it makes for a poor experience for that player. I can see solo roamers having a lot of fun.

How did you manage to keep the same 200 players there?

I am going to say no only because I already paid 1k gems for some of my tools. My molten set I did get for 800 each but the bone pick etc were split. some for 800 and some for 1k. I do not want to pay another 200 gems.

I understand where you are coming from. I still don’t see this as P2W. I do see this as a gateway or the first steps onto much worse things. It’s a slippery slope after all.

(Bone pick should have 20% chance of candy corn)

This on so many levels.

Any update on when this is gonna get fixed?

If you were going to make it better than the other infinite picks you could at least make it cost more. Thanks Anet for making me feel like a kitten for giving you money.

Oh they will…THEY WILL.

I was very unhappy when you forced scarlet into fractals, this make me just as unhappy. I have recently become more of a fan of the LS and how AN has been telling more of the story. But really dislike when you release a new feature, a new map in this case and force her into it. If it was part of the world, then I would understand. But this is a new wvw map. Why is she involved? I am sure there is a story there as to what she has to do with it, but why does it have to be that way?

I am not sure if I agree this is a direct P2W. It is definitely a dangerous road and a springboard into an area that is worse for the game. I have all the other tools and none of them offer what the current one offers.

I have also been screaming for months about the gem creep on the cost of all items. Masks are now 500 gems and offer less and less in terms of quality. This is heavily opinionated but previous helms outshine face paint, which norn get for free.

Whole sets of armor at release were 500 gems…which shot up to 800. Now face paint costs as much as an original set of armor. I am surprised this new mining pick did not cost us more.

I am not a fan of it adding more than the other picks for the same price but I don’t see how this is pay 2 win? What advantage does this give you over another player that would cause you to “beat” them? What are you winning?

Maybe I don’t know what pay 2 win means anymore.

Face paint masks for 500 gems was and is still ridiculous. And now these mining picks give you more for your money. Why don’t my other 2 picks do something “more”?

very awesome. I love the comparisons like these. It’s very easy to skip over them.

The even more tragic problem is that those players that come usually go away after one fight, disappointed that they couldn’t get a kill, only to be replaced by people with similar aspirations

We’ve had and continue to have this problem from day one. To make matters worse we never seem to have 150 players. split is normally 50 / 40 / 40 with a few here and there. So we are missing 15ish players in general. It’s tough to get everyone involved. No matter how much you beg, and plead. It’s a real accomplishment to just get those people involved and invested.

This is the phase we are trying to deal with now. Just need a little more DPS.

How many people in these elite dungeons / raids

Good advice. Any more in terms of food, oil, venom, crystals, etc?

Specific Utilities for classes? I am sure most of us who are attempting this still have most of this figured out but we could be wrong as Deso has the only kill so far.

This makes 3 kills? Or more?

Oh I assumed that you had to complete the event with the head kill. Not sure why I thought that. I’ve killed 2 as well and am still at zero.

I asked this in another thread. So you have to kill the wurm 3 times in order to get this achievement? I don’t see a problem with that? In some cases it stinks that it didn’t give some players credit for their kill. But I don’t see killing it 3 times as a problem.

Deso killed it just yesterday and they have at least 2 kills if not more now. I realize that other servers and groups like TTS are still trying (myself included) but it will happen soon.

It’s a joke like saying I got that ages ago..

I see. For the last one do you have to kill each of the wurms severed heads or it gives you all three?

So is it 1 kill or 3?

Is this still bugged? BG just had it bugged last attempt and the map has to be reset.

Sijen I got that Meta in Beta

What do you mean in beta?

It consistently happens on blackgate, I am sure this probably happens on every server. There is also a consistent bug where the phase 1 wurm heads bug and the maps have to be reset. Very annoying.

With all due respect, you proved the guy’s point.

This thread is suppose to be congratulating Deso for a successful wurm kill. Yet a quarter of the posts are Blackgate players talking about Blackgate. You don’t get much more elitest than that.

Stating which server you are from isn’t elitest. SoR, BG, JQ, FSP, all these servers often say where they are from. Their congrats don’t mean anything more or less. They are simply representing where they are from. Which for many Is rather important, and server pride should be.

When Teq was killed the congrats thread was no different. Players from Deso identified themselves as such and no one thought they were being elitest. I don’t see the difference here.

I thought GW2 was meant to be different from other mmos, why then have ArenanNet copy/paste hardmode raids from WoW?

Because they are open world where random players can flock to the event, these are not the same as wow’s raids. It is difficult content, sometimes that content is not for everyone. There many aspects of the game, and sometimes that content won’t be for some players.

BG has no doubt had problems with players coming and going, regardless we’ve made good attempts. This is a hard fight, it does require voice comms and coordination in a high degree right now. It even requires certain builds to make life simply easier.

World firsts are incredibly stupid, it creates nothing but a toxic atmosphere amongst players.

Partially true. But all involved even those of us without a kill yet would disagree about it being stupid. When players invest more than 24 hours straight into an event like this or season 1 wvw for example, they certainly don’t think it’s stupid. Competition of any kind is going to breed a toxic environment, but it draws a lot of us. It’s a nasty side effect, and certainly not ok. But for every one of those people there is a nice person who came here and genuinely congratulated DESO.

The puppet for the record is not even on the same level as the Wurm. It can be difficult on certain phases for sure, but it’s not nearly the same.

There is probably a good reason why you have so many mobs there. crazy amount. But it might be how you are approaching it?

Link, looks like you’ve got a few adds there. lol

BG just bugged the wurm event again. Won’t reset.

being improved how? there is nothing wrong with the event, except maybe the fact when the heads spawns they are still invulnarble for like 10 secs

Don’t want to go into it, but there are still bugs with the event.

any rifles? And I assume the gloves are account bound? Is it a stat-less skin or are their stats on it?

great job guys, the feeling after killing it was overwhelming, and this has been one of the best moments in guild wars 2 for me. need more content like this. Thanks to the commanders. and ive spent so much time here with almost the same guys everyday i can recognize most of them.
Deso rules.

Having been there for the BG Teq first kill I know this feeling. I could not agree more, love content like this. Can not wait to see other dragons get revamped etc.

so far we are 1 for 1 :P

that is how they did it.

edit: In the most basic way to explain it. There are far more details I am sure but there is a video out for the kegs. Still hoping for crimson video

was part of Cobalt keg runner team. It was constant fight with our capabilities. Strategy is one thing, but the most important thing was our experience. We was doing this for about 3 days in a same 150 – people group, together on teamspeak, few times being really far from winning and getting really upset.

BG is trying their best to get the same people but it’s very difficult. Big congrats for being able to pull that off.

Anyone have Crimson footage of the kill?

I am not sure what players expect for loot? Loot seemed ok to me.

sigh.. Congrats guys and gals you worked hard for it.