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Eh, not really griping about this…But kinda funny to see people (EU or otherwise) get on here and say stuff to the effect of: “Just cause you got into WvW on reset, and you say theres queues afterward, you should think about the people that did not get into reset cause they logged in later than you”….Thats great, I will also try to think about charities and the worlds problems when I play, because you know that is what a game is for: other people not myself………Luckily for me I will be home from work well before reset, so before you think that I am just a QQing NA person, don’t.

I just think it is a bit ironic so many high and mighty souls are on here trumpeting the cause of those NA/SA/Canadian peoples stuck in queues and unable to play all this time before the change, while telling others that just because you were able to get into WvW during the previous reset times, you should be grateful and just learn to like the fact that you can’t now but your server-mates can.

Instead you now point the finger at people that find themselves in a similar boat that you were once in, you have have turned a 180 at the hypocritical speed of light and went on the defensive, when in reality everyone on these forums knows this is ANET’s mess….But you are too worried about yourselves to point the issue to where it should be.

So keep going on about how “NA” people should not be selfish, all the while being selfish in your quest to keep your new fangled reset time lol.

In closing, again: not mad at all about the reset because it does not affect me, just pointing out the hypocrisy on display…And I did not name, names….so if you get on here flaming me we will know your guilty conscience is shining through.

I have been biting my tongue a lot lately, hoping that it is just some burnout, alt-itis, PVE-itis, etc….

I do know that some people are taking a backseat/break a while to let some of the newer people get some training time in.

I challenge NSP/HOD to bring it this week (if we are here, if not it will take care of itself)…..I mean I wouldn’t be happy until you run us right out of our BL or EB…..Don’t make the forum warriors have to come out of retirement, just roll us in game already, we gotta stop hitting the snooze button soon.

I sure hope if we are here still next week that you guys BRING IT, and by it I do not mean that drama, SF needs to be pushed….We are getting beyond lazy, WE NEED A HERO!

Truth be told it either happens: a lot more than most would think, or a lot less…Just depends on the type of people in the matchup, the bad blood if any, etc.

I tend to think that it does not happen all that much, just isolated cases/people.

We have had people transfer or have alts on other servers, more to see how life really is on that side of the fence, and usually to my knowledge these people have been fairly open about being there.

We have also had the same in terms of people from our opposition coming over, to get a judge of us first-hand, but we have also had some come over and legitimately try to “spy”, and even had some not transfer at all but just guest and join guilds to whatever end they saw fit at the time.

At the end of the day I do not type anything in chat without assuming it is being read by anyone on my team or the other….Truth be told I could care less, and unless it is some type of “covert operation” (IE: golem rush, etc) then there isn’t much that I think the enemy can realistically do to stop you if you go about it properly.

So in that sense, I kind of get a nice giggle knowing that people are quite possibly paying to come over to our server for virtually nothing…I would also like to know how many of them stay after they get here lol…

Runamok.9638:

Darn you SF hackers. Seriously how did you guys cross-tier gianormous super uber zergalicious awesomeness hack into our Citadel last night and camp our waypoint and kill our merchants. I couldn’t reload on iron mining picks which serverely hampered my abilities to mine copper all night. I lost out on around 87 copper in profits due to your antics. Why can’t you guys stay in T7. I am so tired of of you cross-tier zerging our citadel. I cannot take it anymore. I so wish I could have found my screen capture button to report you dastardly hackers to Anet. I will get get you next time! /foiled

Some days I miss the good times we had, sitting outside your spawn building flame rams and people actually getting on them and “111111” just like we were trying to cap your base/spawn….

We sure do miss you guys, these other two in T7 only crawl out of their holes at 3AM after lulling us to sleep with boredom…They treb SM all day, we don’t even repair the walls, as they rarely even try to take it…We will have to see what Glicko has in store for us at this week’s reset I suppose.

RyuDragnier.9476:

King Amadaeus.8619:

So one thing I am hearing in all this is NA needs a T9…3 more servers….

That’s not going to help at all. All the servers on the NA side are Very High status, and you’re not going to get people who have put roots in a community to just leave it that fast.

The problem here is that anytime somebody gives a suggestion that is convenient for everybody, some of the EU players in this thread complain and blow it out of the water when said time makes it convenient for MOST PLAYERS, REGARDLESS OF REGION. And then said players have the gall to say the same time they’d get in said situation NA players can deal with when said complaining players refuse to want to deal with the same situation. Get off your kitten high horses people, either we attempt to appease most of the player population regardless of location or we don’t.

I see your point and agree to an extent, but there have been mass exodus’s in the past pertaining to WvW…It would happen again if they opened 3 new servers.

There are people who by the week, still come to lower tiers because of the congestion on the higher tiers…while adding 3 new servers, would not be end-all fix, it would alleviate some of the problem, because I assure people would migrate.

This guy was doing it at a camp, he was honestly working on the achievement, which like I said is just crazy…Actively working on any achievement in WvW is just crazy lol.

Tonight: not reset :P

So one thing I am hearing in all this is NA needs a T9…3 more servers….

Crazy as it sounds…and boy is it, some people that build those rams actually are doing it for the achievements….I only know this because we absolutely had this happen, and the person turned out to be credible (IE: not trying to siege cap us), just did not realize that there was a cap in place and was bored working on an achievement.

Also they did this at a camp, which is in no way near as bad as doing it at a keep/SM etc.

Yeah someone well before me messed up the quotes…pretty much none of that is going to the right people now lol…

Gab Superstar.4059:

Ruprect.7260:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Ruprect.7260:

I would gladly take 3 pm.Would plan a guild raid for 7-8 pm but that’s just me.Midnight still sux but at least people in EU get to play for 2 hours and still get some sleep before work/school on saturday instead of nothing at all

I am not a fan of the fact that Anet needs to screw someone over in the 1st place and i really don’t understand why the reset times can’t be separate since the NA and EU servers are *completely*separate in the 1st place.You can’t even guest from NA to EU so this thing really leaves me perplexed.

But ,being from EU i can’t not be glad for getting even such a small improvement.Either way here on the old continent still have it a lot worse than you guys even with this “improvement” and im not rying to make it a justification in any way is just a personal opinion.

See the problem with this on my server will be queue’s. On a normal reset night you have to be on the button/portal to get in, if you miss getting in right at reset you are in a queue for 5-6+ hours, if you get in at all. I would actually prefer a 2am reset, that way there is no big reset push and most ppl would just log on Saturday morning and do their push.

Don’t play on a T2 server then.

Ruprect.7260:

Lol, kids go to school on Saturday in EU???

In some countries yes.

School on Saturday is crazy;)

T1-T6 has a long queue on reset night, so that leaves T7/T8, no thank you.

Neither T5 or T6 has queues on reset night. Don’t know about T4, but I don’t believe it’s much different, since all T4 servers have strong overnight presence rather than a strong prime time presence.[/quote]

T7 does have queues on reset, mostly in EB, but also if theres a push on a certain BL, then theres a queue….

PS: Stay in your elite tier, no queue avoidance down here.

eViL Dee.7018:

King Amadaeus.8619:

Jeromai.8203:

Dead mesmers will celebrate. Even easier to hide in keeps to get rezzed by a thief if their names completely vanish.

True that, but to me it is an acceptable evil….Nothing worse than rolling up on a zerg and not being able to tell in the heat of the moment if its 50 live ones or 10 lives and 40 dead.

By far and away that is not acceptable. Do you know what a portal is and how it’s used?

ROFL…Do you guys know how to SWEEP A KEEP?

Skarloc.2569:

Toble.2968:

Skarloc, yet again, not starting a flame war, but you basically just claimed that roaming is all PVE and therefore might need to put your foot in and around your own mouth since that happens to be the profession you are in.

That’s quite the opposite of what I said, but you believe that because of your mindset towards this game. I see roaming as a way of finding good fights, you see roaming as taking sentries/camps in an effort to control the map. I hit a camp because I want players to head in the direction, you hit a camp because an arrow cart needs setting up. Again, roaming is about 5% PvE for me, 95% for you. A difference in philosophy.

Toble.2968:

I’d say anything that takes more than a month in this game is a challenge given the casual standards and I also think that when it comes to WvW, most times it is not in fact PVE.

So the challenge is that it simply takes time, not that there is anything remotely challenging about actually acquiring the ranks.

Toble.2968:

I know you think that everyone goes around taking towers and camps uncontested, but in WvW, the majority of the time there is player Vs. player fighting happening everywhere.

The challenge is working hard and being in WvW often and being able to kill people defending towers or camps in order to take those objectives as well.

this is not really argument so much as fact.

WvW levels are really the only things other than than titles that take a significant amount of time to get.

More PvDoor occurs than you would like to believe, but I do agree that there are actual fights that occur. Now, with groups that size, are the fights often won purely based on numbers? Absolutely, that is the nature of the zerg. I get that herding that many sheeple can be a pain, as it’s certainly not something I would like to do, but that has nothing to do with ranks, that’s about zerging.

Toble.2968:

If it is not a challenge, then you would care releasing your WvW rank to the masses and let them know why you are not dominating that unchallenging wvw catagory?

I bet your answer is “I could care less because I get good fights in WvW and that is all I care about, correct?”

I’m rank 12. You’re right though, I could care less because it’s even more meaningless than the score itself. The rewards, if you could call them that, are all based around guards and siege. So if there wasn’t enough reason to zerg as it was, there is now further incentive to do so. Your rank is primarily based on how often you play, followed by how effective you are at zerging. I don’t play on the weekends and I only play a few hours 3-4 days a week. I rarely take objectives and I’m running in groups smaller than 95% of other players, so I’m shocked that I’m even this high.

You’re right on another issue though, all I do care about is getting in good fights.

Toble.2968:

Well that is just fine, to each their own.

Also, who ever said that PVE can not be challenging?

I sure it would be far more challenging to gain the rank by never killing a single player and killing only NPCs than it is killing actual players to get top rank.

As Obs said, those Yaks can hit pretty hard in comparison to actual players sometimes.

The path of least resistance is the fastest way to farm your rank. Luckily, the rewards are so terrible that there’s no reason to care about them. Be online, be in the fattest zerg, and take objectives and you’ll skyrocket in rank. If your zerg happens to roll over players in the process, that’s just a bonus.

Forum troll casted Wall of Wording…you were hit for 2500.

Linkisdead.9647:

Civil is boring.

Can we go back to dramatic text walls plz? Forum drama fuels my work day and I haven’t seen a single Mila Kunis reference yet today, shape up t7.

Mine too, funny how that works…..but some servers who shalt remain nameless (but they are Heavy on Drama and Need Some Praise) got all of our best forum warriors banhammered….So now we just come on and say: Hey nice small roaming group last night at (insert random BL location), we really enjoyed the spirited match you presented us with!

Jeromai.8203:

Dead mesmers will celebrate. Even easier to hide in keeps to get rezzed by a thief if their names completely vanish.

True that, but to me it is an acceptable evil….Nothing worse than rolling up on a zerg and not being able to tell in the heat of the moment if its 50 live ones or 10 lives and 40 dead.

graverr.6473:

I could be wrong but if you look at it from Anet’s perspective,NA servers will have 3-4 hour queue(idk) as stated by the majority of the NA players,for all Anet is concerned everyone will get to play.Clearly a lot of people always get the bench on reset anyway in high tiers but is hard to believe that Anet really cares for the players that used to play the reset and now will be unable ,as long as their spots will always be filled anyway.Players are players and even before this change a very good share of players were left off anyway.Now is probably their turn and many might be even grateful.

Still trying to see this from Anet’s perspective,even if the reset happens at 3 pm there is still a lot of time to still play that reset for a long time since hardly doubt that you will be unable to play all the way until late night-early morning in comparison to EU players that only had those 2-3 hours before hitting the floor or going back to work again.
Now EU gets 4-5(very unlikely) hours to play at reset while NA still gets more than 10 in wich with a little effort a lot of people can organize to get a spot in the action.

I do not know you, do not want to offend you, or for you to think I am attacking you…But you are wrong, if they truly wanted to open up the range of allowable playtime they would have moved it to the following day (Saturday here in the states), and set it at a time that day that got great coverage from all servers…Again I think people are too concerned with what they did do rather than what they could have done, that is where I think the real motivation behind this lies.

Voradors.5381:

Hey, in all seriousness here……………………………….Why not a Saturday mid day PST reset time?

HMMMMMMMMMMMMM?

Does it NEED to be Friday?

Because bro, that would just make it possible for MOAR people to be online at reset…You seem to have the same attitude toward ANET as I (ex-GW1 player yourself I bet)…You know they do not want MOAR people on at reset….This would highlight their skill lag and queue issues even more.

The EU people do not care because they have gotten some modicum of a “fix/answer”, and the NA people are too busy losing their cookies (justifiably so), to realize that ANET never made this decision to be helpful/hurtful to their players, they did it to hide a bigger, growing issue that is most widely seen during reset with high player loads…..

Some more food for thought, I have seen a few people say that it will not make much of a difference in the score/matchup etc….While I do agree, I would add that this will give a slight edge to any servers that greatly outnumber their opponents.

Meaning if my server has 50 people in queue that live at home with mom and dad still, while the rest of us work…And your lil server had 50 people in EB at reset, now 25 of them are still at work…..Well we essentially have the same amount as normal, just different folks pushing the keys, while you are even more outmanned.

Again, not the end-all-be-all gamechanger, but surely will allow for some nice early cushions in certain situations.

I said this in another thread, will echo it here….At the risk of being too “NA-centric”, I think the real thing that is happening here is that ANET is taking one problem’s “solution” and truly using it as a bandaid fix for another larger problem.

By taking these new reset times, they have almost guaranteed themselves less of a server population during reset, as the majority of the PST folks, and most-many of the CST folks will not be on at the initial reset.

The CST folks will stream in 1-2 hrs later beyond reset, and the PST 2-3hrs later. There is also a chance that the eastern (EST) folks will see some decreases as well since 6pm is traditionally dinner time in most of the U.S.

My guess is that this reduction of players could possibly play a significant role in the reduction of skill lag/WvW queues/spikes etc etc….Now I have never been to T1 matchups, so maybe you guys have so many it won’t matter…But I can almost assure you we in T6-8s will see a difference.

Personally I believe if they truly wanted to issue a fix for the “reset” issue, then they would have simply moved it to Saturday afternoon, or something along those lines that would be universally time-acceptable for all parties…Tinfoil hat or not, I believe this change was more truly accepted/aimed at controlling the server populations at the peak reset times.

pita spoon.5708:

King Amadaeus.8619:

pita spoon.5708:

King Amadaeus.8619:

pita spoon.5708:

no they didn’t make me pay.. just their rules are too strict.. really if you read them almost everyname can be found offensive in some way shape or form.

Strict rules, applicable to anyone in just about any situation, is the friend of someone who wants pass out judgement/punishment as they see fit….

So like you said, it basically gives them the leeway to do what they want when they want and still be considered “fair”, because hey, it is in the rules and they are the master interpreter….

im probably gonna get a mark for this one but the character name Wide Charr could be offensive to obese people.. think about it anet.

You could always get a petition going on these forums to get your name back, it has happened successfully in the past.

well maybe and if it does work then it will only last long enough until someone finds it offensive or anet thinks it offensive again and forces me to change it again and therefore ill be stuck in a neverending circle of headache so ill probably keep this name til i have to change it again.

Talk to McLovin on ET, pretty sure he went this route, and got his name back on his guardian maybe (going from memory of my ET days).

But I see your point, on fighting a neverending battle possibly.

Toble.2968:

King Amadaeus.8619:

<——90% sure I have more than 50 ranks spread over 5 toons….guess that don’t count with FAILNET.

I don’t think it’s fail. It think it’s because they want to note people specializing into one character. It gives a new depth to endgame that is harder to get than just playing to 80 in a week and getting all the gear you need in 1 day.

I like that it will give me something to work on after I get my ele all the way leveled.

I think it is appropriate to give the hardcore wvw fans something to work toward.

Yeah I agree, so much so that I am making a post right now to plead with them to rescind all of our account based WvW title tracks, and go back and make them retroactively “character-based” as well. I mean we do need a grind.

pita spoon.5708:

King Amadaeus.8619:

pita spoon.5708:

no they didn’t make me pay.. just their rules are too strict.. really if you read them almost everyname can be found offensive in some way shape or form.

Strict rules, applicable to anyone in just about any situation, is the friend of someone who wants pass out judgement/punishment as they see fit….

So like you said, it basically gives them the leeway to do what they want when they want and still be considered “fair”, because hey, it is in the rules and they are the master interpreter….

im probably gonna get a mark for this one but the character name Wide Charr could be offensive to obese people.. think about it anet.

You could always get a petition going on these forums to get your name back, it has happened successfully in the past.

Personally, I have seen instances like the one you gave of timing a cap….But under normal circumstances it is only viable (in my opinion) to a situation like the camps.

There are too many variables that could/would backfire during a keep siege. You could try it on a tower, but several of those can be sieged up and made difficult, thus again throwing a monkey wrench in your plans.

On a camp I would say that is awesome logic, on anything else I would lean more to “take what you can get when you can get it”. My thought is also, even if you did convince the masses to wait for a timer, there will always be randoms that will still go start laying down siege on their own…Which will most likely give you more of a defensed area by the time you get ready to start your timer-based siege.

Again, too many variables for me personally on towers/keeps/garrison/SM

pita spoon.5708:

no they didn’t make me pay.. just their rules are too strict.. really if you read them almost everyname can be found offensive in some way shape or form.

Strict rules, applicable to anyone in just about any situation, is the friend of someone who wants pass out judgement/punishment as they see fit….

So like you said, it basically gives them the leeway to do what they want when they want and still be considered “fair”, because hey, it is in the rules and they are the master interpreter….

10% rule is the way to go hands down….As already said, a zerg can DPS a gate, so making it siege dmg only would create more problems, and a nice exploit.

With 10% you have either a true siege event, or someone who has kitten sure earned that contest lol….

<——90% sure I have more than 50 ranks spread over 5 toons….guess that don’t count with FAILNET.

nytehex.3267:

I completely understand wanting to try and make everyone happy regarding the WvW reset times, however, I really don’t think making it earlier on Friday will appease many West Coast / CST players. You have not alienated almost 3/4 of the entire US and Canada as people in those time zones aren’t even on their way home from work until 5. My thought would be that you all would change it to early Saturday, say 8-10 am PST. That way, EU has it at about 5-7 pm and you don’t kitten off everyone in the US. Just a thought.

Me personally I look at it as a “bandaid hotfix” for some queue/skill lag issues that was simply being implemented under the guise of making things better at reset (time-wise) for everyone….Think about it, like you said they are pretty much eliminating most working/school players on the west coast, and at the least delaying some of the same group that live in the CST areas….My guess is that they are counting on seeing less of a population spike at reset…Then as people from the CST and PST start to stream in later they are probably hoping that those there at the new reset time will be elsewhere or moving to other maps etc.

I am very curious to see how much of a spike we (NA servers) get about 1-2hrs after the initial reset now….

Update: It has been 36hrs, and the T7 virus seems to be in a dormant state, no way to tell if your big bros. were infected…There have been rumors of a T6 transplant, or possibly a T8 reassignment surgery…

Judging by the content as of late on T8, you too may have been compromised…

KyoHanakaze.8145:

Fenikkusu.1569:

If I transfer to sf, will I have more fun there? XDD

Sounds like you guys are chill.

You don’t know how to command 50 man zergs.
That’s all SF has there.
I don’t think you’ll enjoy yourself very much at all.

No doubt, at peak times you will have some large groups to work with…..We call it “herding cats”, and sometimes it is a pain. The key is to have enough experienced core folks with you that they assist you with logistics/organization/etc….At the end of the day pugs gonna be pugs, we don’t hate on the new folks that are still just coming into WvW (yes we actually have MOAR people just now coming in), just try to teach them in chat about what to do if they do not know…We are also breaking in quite a few new commanders from what I have seen.

Most of our core peeps are taking little vacations right now, we have been grinding WvW for quite a while, and some are combating a little burnout I think. This matchup seems to be on cruise control for whatever reason (personally I think its an evil plot to send us to T6) If I didn’t have 5 geared toons I would probably been burnt out myself, but I play a different one just about every day so it breaks up the monotony.

skimps.8596:

LOL SF so angry it takes a whole zerg to get 4 players out of their supply camp

“Takes” and “Used” are two different things….

We have no idea how many it takes, but we know how many we are gonna use.

The ones that get stuff done with the pugs and without VoIP….Those are the great ones.

styx.7294:

King Amadaeus.8619:

styx.7294:

King Amadaeus.8619:

T7 couldn’t take the competition with T8….They just had a meltdown over there….SF are getting worried now, little brothers please let us know if GoM starts acting funny….It may be contagious….Take care of yourselves, it is a strange world over here….

Hey, you wanted to be in tier 7 and now you got it =)

We got nothin but Agg to talk about here and they’re all flustered about the attention.

We wanted to be out of a matchup that forced us to utterly blow out an undermanned (but admirable) opponent(s) 24/7, in order to gain minuscule points in the hopes of getting a more even match….

That’s totally what I said but longer!

My point was that while the margins aren’t the same, we have the same problem now, with the only difference being that we do not have to try to own everything in existence to get the needed points….Lots of us are taking mini-breaks from WvW, I have seen a big decline in our regulars…And the score is pretty much on cruise control, I look for us to get a bit more heat next week if we remain in T7.

styx.7294:

King Amadaeus.8619:

T7 couldn’t take the competition with T8….They just had a meltdown over there….SF are getting worried now, little brothers please let us know if GoM starts acting funny….It may be contagious….Take care of yourselves, it is a strange world over here….

Hey, you wanted to be in tier 7 and now you got it =)

We got nothin but Agg to talk about here and they’re all flustered about the attention.

We wanted to be out of a matchup that forced us to utterly blow out an undermanned (but admirable) opponent(s) 24/7, in order to gain minuscule points in the hopes of getting a more even match….

Rob.7624:

King Amadaeus.8619:

SF loves crazy kittenes….Just throwing that out there….

1,800 gems to transfer.
Thats quite an amount.
You want to pay for her?

Perhaps you misunderstood me sir,
I was just saying she could leave,
Maybe we are negotiating,
Possibly for a transfer,
?

T7 couldn’t take the competition with T8….They just had a meltdown over there….SF are getting worried now, little brothers please let us know if GoM starts acting funny….It may be contagious….Take care of yourselves, it is a strange world over here….

Jeknar.6184:

King Amadaeus.8619:

You know how it is I am sure Jek, everyone talks about the guild group that led the charge to the Keep…No one saying anything about the pugs that defended 2 towers and capped another all the while…..

Not sure how it is in T1-6 but in 7 & 8 you will be commanding pugs most of the time. There are a few exceptions, the WvW guild groups etc, but most of the time it is pugs getting things done, 5+ guilds working together etc.

IKR… Hold a tower for hours against endless hordes of Sorrow’s Furnace expecting an reinforcement that will never arrive, while your guild leader and a huge chunk of your guild is farming the JP (cough Mend cough)… And all you get is a yelling after you lose the tower…

Ha I used to hate those nights…but you know they gotta have siege for those epic 30 minute defenses of useless towers…Tis good for the badge farming though on their end I guess…..One well placed PB though and it all goes to hell in a handbasket.

SF loves crazy kittenes….Just throwing that out there….

nirvana.8245:

Preacher.9018:

I dont really get the complaints – skill lag was always there since they raised numbers of players cap in wvw. So what makes it so critical now? People starting to run in huge blobs only after culling patch?

From my experience, skill lag got worse after they “fixed culling”. It could just be the scenario in my server. Im from JQ and there is SOR and BG, both of which have picked up dozens of guilds and players around the same time. We are regularly seeing 100v100 zergs fights going on. It wasn’t that big in Tier1 until recently from my recollection. I can’t recall seeing much more than about 60vs60 prior to culling being removed. But then who knows, maybe it was 100vs100 and I just couldn’t see it :p

It does seem worse now, which would make sense, that is a good point.

Rob.7624:

Fenikkusu.1569:

Rob.7624:

Fenikkusu.1569:

What happened? ;oooo

Come into nsc vent

I was banned from all of them. XD I have my own ts if you want to talk there but I only have about 20 minutes.

unbanned

What the frack? You ladies air all of your laundry out here for everyone on 3 servers to see and just when it gets good you wanna go all private in your leet speak?

Surely we have underestimated the masters of troll.

KyoHanakaze.8145:

Apparently, writing a well-thought out analysis of the current situation doesn’t work, and mods are annoying on this god kitten forum, so, here, a revised version:

There have been some great fights, both this week and last, against some very memorable guilds for me; as sad as I was that GoM left, taking RH with them, I’ve had the pleasure of fighting guilds such as [KING] and [PvP] who, while less of a small-man force of amazing like [RH] was, have been a blast to fight. NSP, too, has guilds that I absolutely love encountering, namely [Os] and [TFG].

As some of you, on all servers, might be aware, there has been some drama involving one of our commanders. She was bribed to transfer over to NSP, and, despite whatever she may claim her intentions to be, we take our server pride very seriously on HoD. As such, we consider what she did to be selling out and, most obviously, made her a kill on sight target in WvW. Apparently, she assumed that this would not happen and threw a hissy fit, deciding that she was transferring to NSP permanently and making sure that she would push us down to T8, so that HoD will “feel her wrath.”

I’ve lost a lot of respect for [XOXO] after tonight. Not for inviting her into your guild, not for bribing her to your server, but for joining in on her theatrics. You’re talking about a girl who claims that she trained all of the commanders on the server. The person who thinks she’s the kitten and would often drop in to voice comms in order to do nothing but complain about how everyone else is bad and she’s absolutely fantastic. About the girl who is so afraid of us focus firing her for stabbing us in the back that she’s scurrying for gold so she can buy a makeover kit. I’m sure you’ll soon grow as tired of her drama queen act as we all were, but she was still one of us, so until then, I hope you don’t mind that all of HoD will be hunting you.

ALSO, if I get banned from these forums, remember that I love you all so very, very much~ <3 Yes, even the egotistical PAXA dudes.

HoD = Heavy on Drama?

Preacher.9018:

I dont really get the complaints – skill lag was always there since they raised numbers of players cap in wvw. So what makes it so critical now? People starting to run in huge blobs only after culling patch?

I believe so yes, and WvW seems to be growing in popularity. But I do know that lots claimed to be returning to WvW with the removing of culling.

People that jump on here and carry the banner for ANET make me roll my eyes more than the ones that constantly complain….You paid money for a game, it should function accordingly….They have business analysts/accountants/etc that forecast numbers, if ANET wasn’t going to turn a profit off of this game they would have never made it….Now on the other hand if they lost money and now the game is not functioning properly, well guess what? Ignoring problems isn’t gonna “make them more money”…

ANET made a great game, they undershot their servers though, it is apparent…They will have to upgrade them soon, I guess you guys better start buying more junk from the gemshop pronto.

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

BlazeQ.1095:

That fight gave me a headache and caused more than one of my guild members to rage quit. Until last Friday I have never had so many stacks of confusion in my life. Died just trying to get rid of them. Sure was a painful fight for sure.

Haha, I hate being on the receiving end of a shatterbomb mesmer. Which is probably why I enjoy playing one so much, to see all those bodies drop seconds after I hit F2 makes me laugh.

We were running a guild event so we had a lot of PvE’ers I was commanding around trying to show the ropes to and have fun with. We kept getting wiped by a massive NSP zerg, I was trying really hard not to get frustrated lol. We had to change our tactics quite a bit to accomplish anything, it was a fun learning experience.

SilencedScream.2167:

It’s over my head as to why – we held both GoM and NSP for the two weeks before you guys rose up (we even had a solid lead for the three and a half days prior to transfers opening, so that wasn’t the main reason, though it did help, I’m sure).

Guess it doesn’t help that we dropped to Medium (and have only now just risen to High) population since you guys moved up a tier, while everyone else has consistently remained at Very High. :/

I’m guessing its just the initial shock of getting into a losing scenario, I can almost guarantee it will happen to us if we get in t6. People just don’t like to lose when they’ve been winning for so long.

Yep, what Vox said…Most of our core fully expects an uphill fight if we do ever move up, many of us were hoping we would get put through the paces a bit more in this tier so we could work on some stuff and everyone could kinda get eased out of the whole: Show up and win, mentality….The true bad thing about this system is that the more you are winning (like the role we are on) the more pile into WvW, but once you start losing the more pile out to PVE, other games, etc…

It creates a vicious cycle for both sides….There is absolutely no doubt in my mind we have a ton of fairweather people on right now, and that is cool hopefully some of them like it, learn, and want to stay. Not sure how many will admit this, but I think we could actually be doing slightly better right now, but with the influx of added people our zergs develop the attention span of a gnat….Most of the time we are trying to get them to stop PVPing people at the gate long enough to run supply, etc….We have GOT to get better at some facets of the game, that we simply did not have to worry with before.

SilencedScream.2167:

Rob.7624:

Ouch.
Thats gotta hurt.

Yeh, that +0 point gain is not a bug

I think SF wanted your bl more than ours today.

Today?
I thought that was their plan all last week as well.
They’ve hardly targeted NSP, in comparison, since hitting T7. :/

By “they” I am assuming you mean SF? If so I would point out the pic in question: Pretty sure that is RED/NSP that has capped your 1/3, not SF….We are the GREEN ones.

Jeknar.6184:

Silas Drake.8946:

Problem I see the most is the 100g false sense of authority and ego boost. IMHO good commanders are defined by their guild group that accompany them. You ever see a commander with [blank] and not many [blank] around him in coordination then you’re best off looking for one that does. WvW requires teamwork, a commander as a individual means nothing.

The “buy a commander tag” system is a flaw.

So, by your logic, the commanders that lead the militia then are bads?

You know how it is I am sure Jek, everyone talks about the guild group that led the charge to the Keep…No one saying anything about the pugs that defended 2 towers and capped another all the while…..

Not sure how it is in T1-6 but in 7 & 8 you will be commanding pugs most of the time. There are a few exceptions, the WvW guild groups etc, but most of the time it is pugs getting things done, 5+ guilds working together etc.

Avatar of Belle.9623:

To echo Cedrick, this has been one of the most fun reset nights I’ve had in months. FSAE spent 8 hours in EB in glorious back and forth battles with both FC and GoM. Thanks for all the fun times!

I especially enjoy how Stonemist flipped to all the servers throughout the night and we were constantly on the defense. We used huge amounts of siege, died an almost equally large number of times and fought and killed countless invaders and had a blast doing it. I look forward to more of the same for the rest of the week!

<3 FC, <3 GoM!

Enjoy it Belle, and all of you in T8….T7 reset night was bleeeeeeeeeeeeh…..Might have been ok in some maps, but we got introduced to skill lag in EB…Honestly had never seen it before to this extent….We had a 3 way going in SM, and all of us were pretty much on a 2 second delay to activate skills…The game was barely playable, I take that back it was literally unplayable….

My advice is to enjoy and hope to stay in good ol T8 as long as possible…Granted this only has occurred to my knowledge on reset, and on EB….But it obviously has the capability to occur anywhere given the right circumstances are met (pretty much just need a kittenton of people from each server)….I honestly do not know how/why people in higher tiers could/would play this game if that is common.

Jeknar.6184:

Waffler.1257:

Dawdler.8521:

the Guardian can halt an entire zerg.

I’ve never seen a zerg stupid enough to not have one single person that gives stability buffs… but hey.

I’ve seen… And they live at Sorrow’s Furnace…

Infraction inc!

Yea we don’t do stability….HoD and NSP figured that out pretty quick, we got that fixed now…Pulled about 500 more folks out of PVE and now we can bypass their puny AoE/target caps…Problem solved with no need to take utility skills with kitten CDs and 4-6second procs.

omphin.1752:

A way to combat the Zerg is to remove waypoints.

Another is to zerg up and own the enemy zerg…Or you know WvW.

Don’t mean to direct that solely at you personally, just kind of amazed at how many posters we get week in and week out that do not like the “zergy” aspects of the game…And your post kind of makes the assumption (at least in it’s tone) that zerging needs to or is being promptly addressed by ANET. My personal opinion is that if ANET didn’t anticipate/want zerging they never would have implemented the commander icon.

“World versus World (also known as WvW) is a Player versus Player game mode where players from three different servers, or worlds, battle in the Mists. It features open-world combat on four large maps with up to several hundreds of players per map.” —http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/World_versus_World

If you choose to zerg then that is expected, if you choose not to then that is your choice, the idea is to have some balance in anything…The fact that we do not see people on here daily asking for some type of nerfing for “roaming 5 man groups, solo mesmers and thieves, etc…” tells me that this (issue of zergs) is a matter more of personal preference than of imbalance.

SilencingMachine.5049:

Anet said

And there’s the flaw