Guild Wars 2

Yashuoa.9527:

Jana.6831:

Yashuoa.9527:

Besides, nobody likes getting insta killed with a thief appearing out of stealth behind him, while in combat with someone else.

Because mesmers can’t do the exactly same…

Mesmer wont shortbow from 1 point quickly to another.

True that, he will just teleport the whole team ^^

Btw this comparison with thief/mesm obvisously makes no sense, just pointing that fact

SchmendrickTheMagician.8247:

Krysard.1364:

Crinn.7864:

Ya’ll do realize the corrupt boon applies conditions to the necro as well right? It’s not something the necro is going to want to spam on cd.

with traits you can spam to yourself perma bleed and nearly perma poison

Well good thing necros have a spell that sends all their condition to their opponents, right?

Not gonna waste any of these skills for this, but I can see a necro deliberately wasting CB for extra healing with ConsumeConditions

Malediktus.9250:

Honestly, the suggested changes are outrageously bad. If you nerf bunkers there will be 1-3s kills everywhere again.
Better start with nerfing all AOEs, amount of cc and remove minions/pets.

Ferocity buff gonna be OP? PogChamp

SchmendrickTheMagician.8247:

Krysard.1364:

SchmendrickTheMagician.8247:

blakdoxa.7520:

Krysard.1364:

Grimreaper.5370:

Corrupt boon most DEFINETELY needs a 3/4second cast time with a solid animation if its going to be on a 15 second cast timer.

The animation is already pretty obvious tho

This.
Necro rears back and lunges forward on the 3rd strike.

You’re talking about scepter autoattack. We’re talking about the Corrupt Boon skill… which has a really bad tell and too short casttime.

Similar to dagger#3 but with a green thingy in your hand

I.e. a really bad tell and too short casttime.

The dagger#3 cast is one of the most obvious non-DS animations a necro has

SchmendrickTheMagician.8247:

blakdoxa.7520:

Krysard.1364:

Grimreaper.5370:

Corrupt boon most DEFINETELY needs a 3/4second cast time with a solid animation if its going to be on a 15 second cast timer.

The animation is already pretty obvious tho

This.
Necro rears back and lunges forward on the 3rd strike.

You’re talking about scepter autoattack. We’re talking about the Corrupt Boon skill… which has a really bad tell and too short casttime.

Similar to dagger#3 but with a green thingy in your hand

Ithilwen.1529:

Thief detected.

Not so hard to detect tbh

Crinn.7864:

Ya’ll do realize the corrupt boon applies conditions to the necro as well right? It’s not something the necro is going to want to spam on cd.

with traits you can spam to yourself perma bleed and nearly perma poison

Avectius.3271:

Wait a minute. So the division we’re in is what’ll be taken into account when selecting oponents for us, and MMR for selecting team mates? So MMR won’t influence any thing when it comes to the system choosing our oponents? But that means we’ll end up getting paired against people that can have a much higher MMR than ours, right?

Exactly, so if you have a high mmr you will likely face and win lower mmr teams and so move forward to higher divisions until you face people of the same skill, and if you have low mmr you will likely get matched with teams with higher mmr and so lose and stay on that division until your mmr is better than the average mmr of the division

Grimreaper.5370:

Corrupt boon most DEFINETELY needs a 3/4second cast time with a solid animation if its going to be on a 15 second cast timer.

The animation is already pretty obvious tho

online.1278:

Make official dueling arena 1vs1 that rewards for a win like blade and souls, and only balance class based on winrate of highest ranked people there, monthly.

Just check their builds reguraly and buff/nerf things based on their winratio and builds.

MMO Esports? MMO is very hard to balance becuz it is too complicated than FPS or only 4 skills per character moba type game. That’s why we should have 1vs1 dueling arena with leaderboard to balance game xD

Blighter’s Boon would not have been never nerfed like this for example, and would be broken on actual 5v5 matches with the right comp

Rolyate.6753:

Please don’t. Energy sigil giving a chunk of endurance is really bad design and can actually reward someone for panicking and wasting all of their dodges. I would rather it were removed than returned to giving instant endurance.

I mean, sigils are there in order to give smth to the user, not to be completely useless

..are just an overview of the 26 jan balance patch, stop kittening about how do you think some buffs/nerfs arent enough on X build…

Daharahj.1325:

Quickness rez nerf is necessary, next they need to make it so well of precognition doesn’t affect downed allies. In fact I don’t get why downed players get to receive any boon at all.

Because they get to receive condis

Guys he’s trolling, are you new to gw forum or what? Btw balance changes have been announced, prob thief is gonna be broken for S2

Burtnik.5218:

Aomine.5012:

Burtnik.5218:

Aomine.5012:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Aktium.9506:

So you think Mesmer is fine in its current state where it causes a meta that forces matches where neither team can even gain any points at all for up to several minutes? A class and build that causes teams to rage quit from tournaments with actual prizes? Or the fact that Well of Precog utterly breaks Stronghold mechanics?

Yeah no, Mesmer isn’t fine. There’s a bunch of things wrong with PvP at the moment and Mesmer has plunked its bottom down at the top of the list.

Top of the list? No. But yes, res mechanics were broken (not Chrono’s fault), Chrono bunker is a tough nut (but hardly the toughest), and the problems in PvP are many.

Top of the list is Bunker Tempest, hands down.

Hooray for everything getting getting nerfed!

Oh and Ithilwen, now is not the time to say you were finally getting success on Mesmer after 4 years, even if it is true. -_-u

Anyone fight legit through legendary should notice that how broken Revenant and Chrono is. People who still fail to see it either are the abuser themselves and try to play victim, or complete scrubs who barely pvp.

Could say the same about druid and scrapper as well.

Druid is horrible in team fight if the opponent is half decent (extremely vulnerable to stunlock/CC when elite is not up). They have limited stunbreak, unlike Revenant and Mesmer which has TONS of it.
Druid doesn’t has portal.
Druid cleanse is unreliable (2 sec delay on every supposedly cleanse skill)

Druid doesn’t even come close to Revenant and Mesmer atm, especially after bejillion nerfs already. (Mesmer got nerfed ONE time, Druid alrdy got nerfed 5 times post HoT launch). If they’re any closer to Mesmer, top team would have use 2 of them instead of 2 Mesmers already.

Stop lying and face the truth. Mesmer and Revenant are by far the strongest classes in this game atm by MILES.

Dear Anet, nerf rock, paper is fine.
Signed
Scissors

^Your post.

Who has the most broken 1v1 build in entire game? Ability to bunker yet deal zerk damage and be braindead like old turret engis? Thats right, druid. You send druid far at beginning of the match and he pretyt much prevents the cap, send someone from mid to 2v1 and sure..but then mid is lost gg wp

Well, you leave your double mesm at mid so they can hold vs everything ez pz and your revenant swiftly rotates to close in order to destroy the ranger with condis

Raiole.4267:

That could be a pretty funny video to watch though, top 5 revives of the week lol

That would be awesome tbh ^^

Shirlias.8104:

Show us proof ( like achievements. if you are locked to tier 1 i can trust you ).

Theres no way to prove it, he could have hit legen with cele staff and then screenshot whatever, you just have to trust him

Cam Ron.4170:

Nova Stiker.8396:

Maxodon.5243:

Ehm I don’t really understand the authors way of reasoning, you say more stats will always be superior , that’s why celestial amulet, which is the amulet that gives the highest amount of stats, should not be nerfed?
Doesn’t that mean you acknowledge that celestial is the strongest amulet?
Do you want the game to stay unbalanced regarding this?
Or do you want to buff other amulets even though nerfing one amulet would be easier than buffing a dozen others and people are complaining about power creep already?
And wouldn’t that just be a nerf to celestial since its relative power would be lowered?

I’d much rather have a scaling rebalance than a nerf to the celestial amulet. As I said in the video, there is absolutely 0 reasons to go 1,200 into anything in PvP.

carrion pretty beast on necro though

Cele is still better, but on this meta with a cele necro you dont kill anything…

…still have the same description as Genius ones…

Rym.1469:

ronpierce.2760:

Galandil.9641:

AegisFLCL.7623:

Don’t understand why they think thieves need an AA buff…

They don’t either. :>

If they think thief AA could use a buff, maybe Necromancer Staff could get one. Not specifically asking for global buffs, but man I wish Staff 1 on necro was less boring. >_<

I think it’s pretty decent. Some damage buff, be it either base damage increase or power scalling.

If we go more imaginative, it could do more damage the more conditions target has on himself with some generous modifier, like 8% from old Feast of Corruption. Staff already has some variety of conditions and being hybrid weapon, would make AA more interesting.

Thats an excellent idea, staff AA is so simple and worthless…

I mean, as necros we are supposed to AA as much as possible :p

Even easier, just make all PvP gear to be unlocked

It depends on team comp, best mobilty builds and duelers should go for the other caps so they can decap before enemy goes or win the 1v1 if someone follows you

Cynz.9437:

They forgot it, just like they forgot to reset mmr :P

S2 should parcially solve the problem of ppl being on divisions were they dont belong due to the fact that ppl will not be matched against players of the same mmr, but players of that same division, so bad players will be usually matched against better players and lose. Exploiters will still be on higher divisions tho

NinjaWursti.9627:

Also this makes the falldmg trait worthless and they can finally replace it with something good for pvp.

Hahaha that would be awesome

such an innocent mate ^^

I mean, its proved….

Interpretor.3091:

Lol warrior isn’t bad, it’s just that Revenant is 3 times better at the very least. Revenant does just as much damage, provides its team with all of the important PvP boons in the game for almost free, and survives against condition and physical damage for much longer and more efficiently than any other damage dealing class. Warrior is not bad, Revenant just does everything so much better so why bother? I mean I guess you can play warrior to prove people wrong, but hey, let’s see how far that gets you. I would say Ruby at most, maybe diamond if you have friends who want to carry you.

If you’re a good warr you can play and win legendary macthes as soloq… And its not abou rev, but any other class, and when all classes outperform warr, warr is considered bad

+1

Hes obviously trolling

Its confirmed a cheat, I’ve been matched with him too

Thief isnt undertuned, its just that this meta isnt favorable for them, but as you said, if you know how to play it its totally viable

is shadowstep going to be reworked any day so if you cross any damaging barrier while shadowstepping it doesnt hit you?

Tomiyou.3790:

One final note, I haven’t played much since HoT dropped, the balance is horrendous.

Here we have the “problem”. If you stop playing for a while, your rating drops and you get matched with bad ppl. Also, rank and unrank mm rating is not the same.

Evan Lesh.3295:

Krysard.1364:

Gaile Gray.6029:

While we’ll be using divisions to match you against your immediate opponents, we’ll still use your MMR to place you on teams with similarly skilled players (from your division point range) to help ensure that you’re not forced to play with individuals that are of a much higher or lower skill than you.

So this means you will be matched with and against same division players, but your teammates will have your same mmr?

Yep.

Yay!

Gaile Gray.6029:

While we’ll be using divisions to match you against your immediate opponents, we’ll still use your MMR to place you on teams with similarly skilled players (from your division point range) to help ensure that you’re not forced to play with individuals that are of a much higher or lower skill than you.

So this means you will be matched with and against same division players, but your teammates will have your same mmr?

Lexander.4579:

the best part about the whole stream culture are brainless fanboys making buttcults centered around foul and toxic behavior of their streaming idols

Family friendly strum, dunno what you’re talking about

Oh, and he now plays GS necro, how is this not a legendary thing?

Rolisteel.1375:

Most annoying thing ever when you get up t2-t3 soloq then you only getting teammates that are low skilled ( in diamond ) vs enemies close to same skilled as you or whole team about same skilled teamplayers.

Its not fun anymore getting so bad solo teammates that don’t know how to play the game. killing bosses at start making sure we lose all points, afking and simply bad at ranked pvp. a lot of people play it like hot join.

Silv.9207:

Actually I’m using the carrion build, with eventually some changes depending on the enemy team.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNAW7Yn0ICd2gV2AmbC0biFcBD6qFAWAxVxu4YkKN0GiWA-TJxHABA8EACe/BjKDEwFBAA

For example if the enemy team have 2 or more tempests I frequently change from Dhuum fire to Death Perception, to make my RS skills crit and granting me the chance to take the tempest under that 90%hp with RS5+4, inflicting poison and then exit the RS and convertiong the enemy boon in conditions with signets.
It frequently work, but not always. And anyway if I’m facing a tempest I really hope to not be alone on the point.

Celestial is good but I don’t like it, don’t make me feel a good damage dealer.

The focus can be really good, I tried it a lot. But I prefer the Dagger offhand to transfer conditions, increasing the damage against condi users.

Carrion is bettee, but as cele you’re unkillable while still doing a great job, so its a good choice for learnig how to play

jokesonme.4082:

zapv.8051:

Stop using focus, it is bad.

Any more info then “its bad?” A quick heal on 4, and using the right tree a 3 boon rip, 11 second 3x vulnerability, and 8 second chill. That isn’t bad at all.

Focus is not THAT bad (used to be better), but WH i soooo good you want it no matter what. Unblockable CC, LF generator, blind removal, swiftness, cripple, ez procs…

Supreme.3164:

So necros think that eles are easy to beat if they don’t have DS, therefore them losing to eles is only due to this single trait, once the trait is removed..they should win easy against eles….and if not than something obviously still remains OP on ele

As I’ve said not matter what; the guy who lose will always blame the game and not themselves

Thats why people asks for a rework, not a nerf, and so find smth between the two scenarios

But yeh, the guy who hates will always hate no matter if he has reasons or not

Play a cele build, really strong and competitive, easy to play, and forgiven

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNBIhZ6kGRozGsyGw2GgeTsgLYxXxv4YkKN0GiWQXtAwCA-TpBGwAGOEAh2fAwDAgZZAEnAgDHBAA

Supreme.3164:

Will a nerf to DS stop necros from complaining about eles? …NO

Actually yes, condi reaper counters ele without DS due to the high condi pressure that eles cant remove and the permachill that mess their attunements

Impact.2780:

Krysard.1364:

Even if thief is right now out of the meta, the number of evades he has is absurdly broken. Someday thief will be buffed and then ppl will cry for a dodges nerf

revenants

Well, revenants are in the meta while thieves not, I dont doubt, they are better. Im just saying that a thief spamming evades is just lame, even if its worthless. And it will be always lame, while proly Anet will not leave thief worthless forever, and then, ppl will complain about this

Terrorsquad.4802:

EDIT: we both know top teams also only play the most effective specs to win; not the class they want to play.

This isnt always true

supvil.3470:

And leeto isnt even that good lol.

Dont fok with Leeto

The problem with DH is that the traps are bugged, and sometimes you cant see them. I’ve lost so many skirmishes/teamfights cos this….

Well, Im half my way to legend and more than 90% of my matches are soloq, being the other ones matches with guildies that makes me lose more than win, and matches with ppl of the same division. Also, as said before on this post, Leeto is the twitch evidence (seems you cant believe ppl saying they got to diamond without exploits) that you can get to diamond without cheating

Terrorsquad.4802:

BuungBuung.2168:

We must be spent 3-4 to kill 1 bunker to capture point
We have been hit 4000 by Rev’s auto attack
We have been hit by pet’s of full healing Druid around 4000-6000
We have been hit by True Shot(4 seconds cooldown) of Dragon Hunter around 4000-7000
Rev Taunt …?
Rev Confusion and torment more than 10 stacks
Daredevil evade….how many times ?

If you have issues with daredevil in this meta… I have no words for it, sorry.

Even if thief is right now out of the meta, the number of evades he has is absurdly broken. Someday thief will be buffed and then ppl will cry for a dodges nerf