Guild Wars 2

Cygnus.6903:

This match-up has been boring… I haven’t met a single RS player that didn’t run on a 1v1.

Met an awesome GH mesmer though, holy kitten that guy was good. Granted, I played my war, but so did my friend and we couldn’t get him down. It ended bad for him when two other Pikens got in on the fight, but we still got schooled good for 15 minutes.

To the GH-mesmer on Piken Border fighting two warriors for a long time today near the southeast tower, respect!

Hah, good ol’ Otto. Told him that. He appreciates.

To Xeno Tavern [XT]:
Did you seriously bring more guys after your kitten was kicked by two players (2vs4) and then try to annoy us by silly jumping? That’s pretty cheap.

I would consider going for 5 BM for that extra 2sec of quickness every 20sec. That’s pretty decent.

OP, instead killing your own pet, you can choose pet for boons (like moa for fury or fern for regen) and let it be on guard mode.
For phase 1 greatsword might be good. It will hit multiple targets. Not sure how Axe/Axe would work in this matter.
While you need to deal quite high amount of damage, I’d consider going for Troll Unguent instead of Heal as One. Healing per second is tad better with the first one and you don’t have to use healing skill so often which won’t stop your dps that much.
For swiftness or speed boost you’ve got few options. Either you go for signet (which would be waste in this matter – there are skills more helpful that it) or for pet birds (10sec of swiftness per swap). And ofc elite RaO, but that’s only 20sec every 2 min.
There’s as well Warhorn, but that could work in phase 2 due being single target.

Nubu.6148:

Groupfights (5 and smaller etc) and Duels and maybe a Game of Bollaball or Golf
Time: Thursday 21.00 (UTC+1)
Location: South of south Supply at the Mill, RoS BL

Just fighting for Fun.

Just appear or contact Nubu.6148 , Jathres.7236 or Guybrush.8301.

Count us in.

Chopps.5047:

Lert.6287:

You might’ve noticed that ranger isn’t top tier proffession, while mesmer indeed is.
In terms of dps, survivability and group support (throught few seconds boons) mesmer is much better.
I run basicly knight with berserker orbs/jewel so i can achieve 64% critical chance, 70% crtical damage and 2950 armor. Sb/S&Wh is my favorite weapon choice. Both pets are for CC: hound (immobilize) and wolf (fear). Traits 0-30-30-5-5
As ranger I’d say that almost anything ranger can do, mesmer will do better. It’s just that not everybody enjoys given proffessions. Check yourself movies. Mesmer doing 1xX is norm. Ranger doing 1vs2/3 is considered as unusual.

That’s an awful ranger build, no wonder you struggle.

No, it’s just not pet-focused, neither condition one.
I didn’t say I’ve got problems as ranger. Tho, I’m mainly ele (for 4-5ppl group roaming), i basicly solo only as ranger and still enjoy it. All I said, that ranger in comparsion to mesmer, is just worse in countless things.

You might’ve noticed that ranger isn’t top tier proffession, while mesmer indeed is.
In terms of dps, survivability and group support (throught few seconds boons) mesmer is much better.
I run basicly knight with berserker orbs/jewel so i can achieve 64% critical chance, 70% crtical damage and 2950 armor. Sb/S&Wh is my favorite weapon choice. Both pets are for CC: hound (immobilize) and wolf (fear). Traits 0-30-30-5-5
As ranger I’d say that almost anything ranger can do, mesmer will do better. It’s just that not everybody enjoys given proffessions. Check yourself movies. Mesmer doing 1xX is norm. Ranger doing 1vs2/3 is considered as unusual.

All credits go to great – forum inactive, engineer – Obeet.6785.

That’s my guildmate’s movie. He plays bunker engi. But Pretty sure there are some builds with perma regen and stats rather toughness/healing/condi.

muslumgurseks.4951:

I dont need to know you GH is just a community of blob and hack we even caught your guys flying in hills and kitten so you better stop whining in here…

“My guys” aren’t me. Somehow when we – [Psy] meet 3 times a week to play together, we avoid zerging same as you avoid education.
Neither GH isn’t me. It’s just server I happen to play on. Nor I consider myself as GH-Patriot. I don’t give a kitten if we’re winning or losing, what is happening on map chat, which huge property is being attacked. All I (we – Psy) care about is fun and even fights (which is basicly the same in this matter).
The point of my previous post wasn’t to point like “Oh, guys, Dzag and RoS are such blobbers. Ima GH da best yo”. All I said (you still can read it, but please, for now do it with understanding) that every server blob (yes, GH – server i play on, does too) because it’s effective and we indivituals can’t do much about it.
So for future, please stop writing that I QQ or whine. I just try to bring some logic to conversation. That’s it. I don’t want to start argument.

Cameirus.8407:

Lert.6287:

Screen below shows two zerg groups. Literally 1min difference. Sadly, couldn’t find any GH former blobber group at given time.
You may ask – why do I post this?
After whines about zerging from specific server several times on each of 12 pages I just want to show you that EVERY server zerg. Some more (like T1s), some less (less populated servers). People do that cause simply it’s the most effective. Taking camps in 20-30sec, tower in minutes. Defending mansions in seconds (raiding other server trying to cap their property).
Saying “Nice blob insert server here” won’t change anything. I don’t apperciate zerging at all, but I think we all should get over it for the time, till ANet finds out how to make small scale skirmishes more rewarding (beside a lot of fun).
Shalom.

I’ve got some screens of mega GH blobs too this evening….want me to post them later…

Been runnign round for a few hours and all we can find is blobs. Just the way reset goes I suppose.

Hehe, sure. It’s up to you. Maybe it will cool down guys saying “GH? Zerging? Impossible. We’ve got guild of 800 players and we do is duos/trio max!” (that’s joke).

Screen below shows two zerg groups. Literally 1min difference. Sadly, couldn’t find any GH former blobber group at given time.
You may ask – why do I post this?
After whines about zerging from specific server several times on each of 12 pages I just want to show you that EVERY server zerg. Some more (like T1s), some less (less populated servers). People do that cause simply it’s the most effective. Taking camps in 20-30sec, tower in minutes. Defending mansions in seconds (raiding other server trying to cap their property).
Saying “Nice blob insert server here” won’t change anything. I don’t apperciate zerging at all, but I think we all should get over it for the time, till ANet finds out how to make small scale skirmishes more rewarding (beside a lot of fun).
Shalom.

In name of [Psy], special thanks to BNF/Tod for the small scale GvG. Fights were really blood freezing.
In my name, special thanks to that HUGE blob guild [Zumy]
And in name of all of us, special thanks to Jathres – host and founder of these fights between our servers.

@Mizu.9387

Jathres.7236:

Groupfights (5 and smaller etc) and Duels and maybe a Game of Bollaball or Golf
Time: Thursday 21.00 (UTC+1)
Location: South of south Supply at the Mill, RoS BL

Just fighting for Fun.

Just appear or contact me, Nubu.6148 or Guybrush.8301.

Cradorell.3941:

Lert.6287:

Looking for GvG. 60vs60. (45 is least we can agree on).

Okay. Gave you time – now you know I was kidding. Basicly THAT stupid it looks like, when most guilds are struggling to get 8-9 people online or like one I’m in 4-5 three times a week.

Honestly, it shows nothing. It’s simply ego-booster for the ones who win.
If you guys want to prove you’re all skilled either do some outmanned actions (no, I don’t mean 43 vs 47) or small scale GvG fights (one party, one and a half).

That would be all from me at this given moment. I’m a little tired of the doutchy comments lately. Either it’s zerger complaining about X server zerging due being out-zerged or HUGE scale GvG as solution to problems.

Peace.

If you’re in a party in a half, go do sPvP! People these days…. really

Yeh, people these days… (yeh, you).
What i meant was amount of players without giving specific numbers. But since you don’t get it – 5 to 7, maybe 8 people (as well any less). That’s when skill matter.

Looking for GvG. 60vs60. (45 is least we can agree on).

Okay. Gave you time – now you know I was kidding. Basicly THAT stupid it looks like, when most guilds are struggling to get 8-9 people online or like one I’m in 4-5 three times a week.

Honestly, it shows nothing. It’s simply ego-booster for the ones who win.
If you guys want to prove you’re all skilled either do some outmanned actions (no, I don’t mean 43 vs 47) or small scale GvG fights (one party, one and a half).

That would be all from me at this given moment. I’m a little tired of the doutchy comments lately. Either it’s zerger complaining about X server zerging due being out-zerged or HUGE scale GvG as solution to problems.

Peace.

kribre.9683:

Thanks to all the guilds and the commander followers from GH and DZ at DZ border tonight
We started the night with 8 people now. Had some nice fights even though we lost most of them, simply due to being outnumbered 1 to 3 or more all the time^^ but that’s what u get by running as a small guild. Anyway, special thanks to Cry Havoc and Psy guild. Sry about the awefull performance from us at out first engange between Bay and Garri, but we got called out to help defend Hills I think it was, so just had to die quick or run xD
That fight with Psy at the back of Briar was rly nice first fight we actually outnumbered someone today xD untill Cry Havoc came inn^^ but almost was expected after what we did to them at NW camp :P might have had 1 or 2 more than GH there aswell.

Anyway! Thanks for the nice fights today We had a blast hoped u guys had aswell!

Thanks to you guys too. It was pleasure to have some small GvG. Little steppingstone from RoS and Dzag blobbing whole evening (and well, probably our server too, but we try to avoid ’’ours’’ as much as possible).
We offer ourselves for future. Always willing to do some small fights (anything less than 5 including).
And yeh, the fight was 5 vs 4 I think and then 5-10 guys joined, but as I recall, right before that we managed to stamp two of you.

I used to. Well, never again, never… again…
I don’t know much about guardians and certainly not their skill/traits names.

I would stand for buffing this trait. It’s only 5sec with long cooldown (around 90sec). Comparing other classes and their boon sources it should be at least 10sec ever 30-45seconds. Let’s be honest, even thief can apply regen to him for 5sec every 5seconds by CnD.

Back to trait itself. I’m as well running 0-30-30-5-5. Chose it, cause I get better benefits from these 50vita points. On the other hand pet would be tad more useful.

I run something partly alike, but more polished.
If you lose 3 conditions every 10sec, don’t you think 65% condi reduction is waste?
I run with emapthic bond and can’t complain on it with 0% condi reduction.
Condi reduction is when your condi removal is pretty bad.

Another thing is that critical chance in comparsion to critical hit is way too low.
I’d change cavalier to knight trinkets right away.

@Chopps: Regeneration gives 130hp/sec with 0 healing power. 132.5/sec with 100 healing power. Idk where your math comes from. Therefore, Rejuvenation will give 660-700hp over 5sec (including Medic – the WvW healing buff).

@OP, I’d rework some thing. Mostly stats to critical damage. Eg. with helmet 1 critical damage = 16 STATS! While it’s only 5 in jewel, 7 in orbs.

@OP
You run with rather cannon, yet, you’re surprised you die from rangers on versus.
Rangers got their reasons to claim class is broken. It’s said 50% of our damage comes from pet, but only when it’s highly traited. Else, you don’t get yourself damage potential as high as any other class could get, cause still some base damage is pet. But let’s be honest – pet either dies fast/can’t hit moving target/hits for rather low damage (not traited).
Another thing is ranger doesn’t bring much to group support. Certainly not any close to ele/guardian/(heck even) warrior.

Now from me: I do like to versus on my ranger. After so many hours and build that suits me, i know how to counter anyone. The knowledge about other proffessions and their builds is VERY helpful.
With your current setup (not high healing and armor) don’t be surprised you lose to rangers (any if you lose to rangers, i’m quite sure you lose to any other proffession).
If you miss (which is high likely with so many evades ranger has), you might lose potential 5k damage. If ranger misses, he loses around 500-1000 damage with ability to repeat that after seconds.
Another thing is that shortbow/longbow/greatsword/many pets can interrupt your healing if you don’t have stability.
Tips:
I think build with at least 700 healing power and signet is the superior against rangers.
Keep pressure on them, same way as they do on you. Sooner or later you will land your better hit, which will cost them 1/4 health.
Have decent condi removal against BM rangers (direct damage from pet, condi from ranger) and decent toughness or some condi removal against other type of rangers with high toughness.
If they got pretty burst pets and aren’t highly healing based – land damage on their pets. Kill them twice in a row. This way you will get rid of pet for 40-60seconds and ranger will stay without additional damage/support/crowd control/condition cure.

Actually it’s “stealth” for 3seconds which is gone after any action you do (no matter if it’s movement, skill, dodge). It triggers once every 30sec and you can’t use it by yourself.
Compared to thief’s stealth is SOOOOO OVERPOWERED.

Seriously…. people…

Well, I wouldn’t consider this as any strong build, but it’s your choice…
Here’s what needs to be changed:
Drop healing power since your ONLY healing source is #6 Heal skill (no regen signet/regeneration/30 in BM). It’s waste of 500 points which could be spend for something else.
Poor condi removal (but it’s same with most build not including 30 in WS).
Agility training is waste along with signet (only 5% speed boost which is almost nothing). I’d rather go for bleed on crit or pet heals on criti.
Low mobility – rather low survivability. You won’t be able to get away from enemies, neither deffend yourself when they are already on you. That’s the hugest cons with SB/LB. While it’s “fine” for zerging or some dungeons (well, wherever it’s about damage), it’s not for any smaller group. In this case you might say ‘’Ye, but i have 2900armor" – so i will interupt and say it won’t save you once someone skilled with decent damage is focusing you.

I agree about that sword is fine as it is. The ONLY problem is the #1 root chain, but that would be it.

^
Got to agree. After RtL nerf eles think that ANet owes them something.

Well, I never used cleric/condi stuff and you see how “I roll” with it :P

Actually it’s 2.5sec which allows you to use any skill you want and then use it again.

What is burning my eyes is that there is absolutely no condition cure (neither reduction).
If you’re going for such high critical damage, I’d consider it dropping for case of critical chance (knight items).
Anything else LB/GS experts will tell you. I’m rather SB/S&Wh fan.

Nubu.6148:

DanyK.3842:

I’m loving the fights we had so far. Such a relief after t3 and 4 blobwars. You can actually do stuff here with 7 people!
Greetings to FURY, nice change to fight alongside you for once
We’re looking for small guilds for GvG action. Think 10v10 could be arranged or anything below.

Cya on the field!

Next Week ! Anything below 10 would be nice !

Do GvGs. It will be nice warm-up before us :P
Looking forward.

Apparently we’re on the same server, heh.
I really enjoyed the music. About the quality: change format. Even tho it’s 23min, it shouldn’t “weight” more than ~1GB.

I’d like to point out that blind or stability is enough to cap-down ranger in the first try. Which apparently isn’t enough to cap down: elementalist, thief (who can avoid it twice or even three times given enough amount of time) or mesmer.
Guardian can heal himself on downed state for huge amount beside #4. That’s another thing.
And if it’s not enough, looking how much pets are squishy, it’s enough to just kill pet.

>Die from ranger on downed state
>Cry on forum.

That’s why you always check before you leave. Thanks.

“Gunnar’s Hold wants you”

No, we don’t.

Oooo, there are two guild with similar names? Auch, I’m horribly sorry then. I no longer have any clue about what guild I’m talking about, beside it was zergy as hell.
My apology again if I wasn’t talking about the guild I thought I was.

I didn’t count how many of HT was there. What I know is that there were no less than 30people in that group and it was way too much for that borderland in that specific time, due there was no closly so populated group to counter it.

Santus.3702:

Vynt.5218:

Seems like GH got a guild called [TH]. Nice bandwagon server you have there First [FIRE] and now this.

Yeah, a bandwagon of 10 players.

Actually I saw you/them running with 30-40 men group this monday. Made us change borderland due lack of fun.

People, stop defending yourself and right after answering with lie.
We know how the situation looks like. That there are most people who are likely to zerg, and VERY FEW who won’t join zerging for any cost.

But hey, I can crit for 5k dmg only with 26 critical damage and 2.8k sore attack!

The problem with elemenetalists these days is that they expect too much.
The problem with fire grab is that if often fails whenever you don’t stand directly to your target.

Please don’t compare other proffession’s burst (probably you meant thief or mesmer with their high damage and short CD), while elementalist brings highest group support along with guardian.

I like the way sides talk about which server is the zergiest, but when there is opportunity people simply gather up and run with 40 man group.
From my view, you’re all ’’guilty’’. Yesterday I witnessed some GH commander claiming to gather up and ‘’stop running alone like an idiots’’. About both other servers – when there is a chance to join bigass squad – they will.
Can we please avoid the mistake of our previouse threads arguing about zerging in 95% of the posts while 90% of the players zerg when the change for that shows up?

I, for one, am glad we dropped tier. Now I can run alone – max 4 ppl, and do some nice actions while there are smaller groups. Not none or 60 people.
Peace.

1sec referring to GW2 wiki.
With my over 50% critical chance and pressure attack it’s around 330hp every 2 sec.

To your knowledge condi mesmer and ele were nerfed badly in this path.
If it was changed, then it means, it wasn’t supposed to be the way it was. Dealing 6+6+10k within 1sec was just too much with basicly no space to counter it.
Personally I’ve got hit for 5.5k by Mug while having 2947amor.

But if in your opinion, only viable build was mainly mug based, it shows you weren’t any good in the first place.
Peace.

Ye, it’s really good now.
Skill itself deals resonable damage (pretty good), has evasion on it, and more to it- it steals up to two boons.
I used it 3 times on guardian and ended up with retaliation, regen and 10sec on protection.
As well stole 5 stacks of might from warrior and fury, which both were held till I killed him.
Really good change, especially great for non-bursters.

BNF got ranger in guild? MUST. FIGHT. HIM.

The thing I’m most worried about is signet heal nerf. I had my reasons to make build with 1.1k healing power…

Food: Omnomberry Ghost, Master Maintenance Oil.
Sigils: Fire, Leeching, Blood.
Runes: Vampirims (due to health regen steal).

PS: Stat’s could’ve been higher with ruby/beryl orbs (12% more c. damage and some chance/health).

Sorry, but since English isn’t my native, I couldn’t understand 100% of what they’ve said about signet nerf (beside it’s base heal being reduced). Did they mention if its passive will still affect attunement swap and dodges with 30arcana? If confussion does, signet should too stay as it is.

I don’t have any problem with it as well.
Along with active signet, CnD and BS it was just too insane burst.
Mug itself once dealt 5.5k to me while I had 2947 armor on other proffession, it was just too much.

As someone said, it’d be good if that 2k heal would affect whole group, maybe along with one condition cure. It would totally change its usability on different situations.

That’s my opinion on this matter.
It makes me wonder when I see 50 of RoS taking camp together – what’s the point of it? And then sticking together for additional few hours?
Didn’t we forget what’s that all is about? – FUN.
I can’t imagine how ’’fun’’ must be raiding 5 (okay, 10 at its finest) guys by 50ppl blobbing group?

PS: Personally I don’t give a kitten about score, but recent situation is really annoying.

Being honest there are much more staff eles on WvW on servers where I am.
There are very few D/Ds and almost every of them is poorly-skilled, so we don’t have problems with it.

Drengi.8326:

Thanks for a nice duel we had with eles from [Psy] in front of the blue keep! Till blues showed up that is…

We’re glad we could serve.

Exp with whatever makes you kill mobs pretty fast and not die every few minutes. It’s pointless to waste money for rare set (like 1.5 gold) if you can get best armor at lvl 80 (knight/soldier/cleric from vendors).

Interesting.
With around 100-110 critical damage and base attack 3100 my highest sword critical was for 4.7k to some underleveled mesmer (he probably didn’t even have 1500 armor).
Talking about Elementalist… I don’t think they are THAT overpowered. Most of us (including me) are running highly deffensive builds, so we choose survivability over damage. But D/D thieves and mesmers are running highly cannon builds still having great survivability and much much much higher damage. And I simply love playing part role of supporter.
I’m still wondering about the critical damage (critical chance will stay as it is, since it will be higher profit with that build) to not drop it by maybe 10 (put some runes instead).
About health – it should be base 15k and 2.8k (or more) armor. Health will get around 1-1.5k boost after 2-3days since WvW reset, so just by changing little thing I’d end up with 17k health. And health regen should stay pretty high from stealth, life steal food and most likely perma regen from group.

PS: What proffession will you participate at “duel evening” in 2 weeks?