Guild Wars 2

Pyriall.1683:

Lexander.4579:

because you cant get out of ruby it doesnt mean everybody else should be stripped of soloq pleasure as well

Not in ruby, legendary is too easy to get. The issue is that conquest does not support individual MMR when ranking is based only on winning and losing.

As a matter of fact, I had the luxury of having to carry you a few times.

luxury indeed

because you cant get out of ruby it doesnt mean everybody else should be stripped of soloq pleasure as well

Fivedawgs.4267:

This is obv a L2p issue, you have to learn to ply around the chat. Remember you are solely responsible for your teamchat, so if someone say noob it isn’t their fault. It’s urs .. serous lt l2p issue and get gud at handling team chat!!

i wish he was in my team, then at least there would be 1 less person who’d feel insulted, but unfortunately for the whole 4 people he was on the enemy team

When we are done catering to all the people who cant cross enough divisions to get pvp backpack can we have our reports do something too pretty plz?

Salamander.2504:

Fivedawgs.4267:

If you couldn’t tell that I was trolling him or being an kitten to him.; like he does to evryo ne else then dude you have a problem. The OP belittle everyone on this forum, so just giving him a taste of his own medicine.

He brings nothing to the conversation except his usual “hit gud” remarks or if you cant carry legendaries then you shouldn’t be in it, etc..

I couldn’t tell. I guess I have a problem.

its ok i couldnt tell either

Fay.2357:

@Lexander: If you could keep your contributions to a minimum, that would be perfect, thanks.

@SPNKr: Revs certainly can disengage like a thief, but it does take more situational awareness for them to do so. If they have that awareness though, shiro porting to a distant target is a more effective instant disengage than almost anything a thief has.

@SPNKr and Azukas and DecieverX: One substantial thing that the rev has over thief when fighting Chronomancer in particular is their innate/passive defenses to cc. Thief is just as vulnerable to being cc-locked and burst as it always has been and chrono has picked up some potent cc. A rev, on the other hand, has the passive taunt bs that’s liable to let them autoattack away 50% of your health if you have the audacity to try and cc them. The stability on dodge also gives them enormous defense to the offensive control that power Mesmer really relies on to stay alive.

@DecieverX: Saying a Mesmer can 100-0 a warrior in a defensive setup is like saying a warrior can 100-0 a Mesmer…if they politely stand and eat a full 100b+arcing slice. Yeah, it’s mathematically possible to do, but it’s not something that actually occurs unless you’re fighting scrubs.

have you ever agreed with anyone on something except of mesmer needing huge buffs

Jourdelune.7456:

Memory lapses from 6 month ago.

Thank you,

isnt any less true just because its old though

ranciddy.8243:

Lexander.4579:

ranciddy.8243:

Lexander.4579:

16,6 matches per day with every match+queue+ready time being about 15 minutes is only about 4 hours of gaming, i dont think we’re living in such age when 4 hours of gaming per day is something to frown upon unless you are living in some sort of village

Most folks with families, responsibilities or jobs would probably disagree with you.

pvp in mmorpg is typically the sport of bachelors, pal

So I’m not allowed to play or give advice because I have a successful job and a family?

i havent got a slighest idea how could you interpret what i just said in that way but i guess thats what family stuff does to people

ranciddy.8243:

Lexander.4579:

16,6 matches per day with every match+queue+ready time being about 15 minutes is only about 4 hours of gaming, i dont think we’re living in such age when 4 hours of gaming per day is something to frown upon unless you are living in some sort of village

Most folks with families, responsibilities or jobs would probably disagree with you.

pvp in mmorpg is typically the sport of bachelors, pal

Jourdelune.7456:

Lexander.4579:

insanemaniac.2456:

Lexander.4579:

insanemaniac.2456:

Ruru.1302:

Fivedawgs.4267:

Dude why are you being so defensive, we are all giving you advices; if you want to improve, please use a meta battle build, ok???

Lmao, I guess the op doesn’t want to beat mesmer after all … LMAO

Ok you know what, if you don’t want to use a Mettabattle build, post a video of your fight against a mesmer, so we can show you your mistake. Like you might have wasted a dodge and the list goes on!!

Post a video and I’ll help you.

Don’t be trying to help people unless you’re legend or at the VERY least high diamond.

Also, I remember playing against you for like 3 matches on my way up the ladder. Simply put, you shouldn’t be in the position to give anyone advice.

this guy thinks a grind race is indicative of skill

LOL

didnt know that playing 100 matches counts as grinding

along comes someone in legendary who played 500 matches and sucks and gives advice and then what?

legendary in 500 matches isnt that bad either, some people get bad luck climbing the ladder but they still climb instead of going on forums and whining about “always bad team”

500 match in 30 dayz.

It’s 16.6666666 match a day.

We play average 3 match a hour.

This means kitten (five.five kitten filter) hour grind per day.

Well… this is almost a second job.

But what you didn’t understand here… is that, anyone can grind games like you did… but not anyone can play matches versus top players all day long.

But well, thank you to show us all that the Grinding Ranking system of Gw2 is badly interpret by bad players (or dev fanboi) as Prestige.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Legend-Queue-Times/page/2#post6046284

It’s ridiculous, because by the end of season 2… many grinders would be getting there anyway.

All ranking system that only count win or lose are bad. You need to compare that win or lose versus WHO.

Like the old leaderboard system was. I assure everyone that 90% of the legendary players would never be top 200 on the old leaderboard system.

i play about 20 matches a week because for me this game grows boring fast but some people enjoy playing gw2 as their main game

16,6 matches per day with every match+queue+ready time being about 15 minutes is only about 4 hours of gaming, i dont think we’re living in such age when 4 hours of gaming per day is something to frown upon unless you are living in some sort of village

insanemaniac.2456:

Lexander.4579:

insanemaniac.2456:

Ruru.1302:

Fivedawgs.4267:

Dude why are you being so defensive, we are all giving you advices; if you want to improve, please use a meta battle build, ok???

Lmao, I guess the op doesn’t want to beat mesmer after all … LMAO

Ok you know what, if you don’t want to use a Mettabattle build, post a video of your fight against a mesmer, so we can show you your mistake. Like you might have wasted a dodge and the list goes on!!

Post a video and I’ll help you.

Don’t be trying to help people unless you’re legend or at the VERY least high diamond.

Also, I remember playing against you for like 3 matches on my way up the ladder. Simply put, you shouldn’t be in the position to give anyone advice.

this guy thinks a grind race is indicative of skill

LOL

didnt know that playing 100 matches counts as grinding

along comes someone in legendary who played 500 matches and sucks and gives advice and then what?

legendary in 500 matches isnt that bad either, some people get bad luck climbing the ladder but they still climb instead of going on forums and whining about “always bad team”

insanemaniac.2456:

Ruru.1302:

Fivedawgs.4267:

Dude why are you being so defensive, we are all giving you advices; if you want to improve, please use a meta battle build, ok???

Lmao, I guess the op doesn’t want to beat mesmer after all … LMAO

Ok you know what, if you don’t want to use a Mettabattle build, post a video of your fight against a mesmer, so we can show you your mistake. Like you might have wasted a dodge and the list goes on!!

Post a video and I’ll help you.

Don’t be trying to help people unless you’re legend or at the VERY least high diamond.

Also, I remember playing against you for like 3 matches on my way up the ladder. Simply put, you shouldn’t be in the position to give anyone advice.

this guy thinks a grind race is indicative of skill

LOL

didnt know that playing 100 matches counts as grinding

Fay.2357:

Lexander.4579:

Velimere.7685:

Lexander.4579:

poor mesmers were so overnerfed that they are still stomping legend games while class-stacking and literally doing the same rotation for every situation over and over while being able to easily outrotate every class in game and have the only complete shutdown skill in game

its chronobunker all over again except that now they also can kill you much faster

I don’t understand why you had to hide your own skill-bar.

The only conclusion that comes to mind is that you yourself were playing condi-cheese.

im playing my own build which none of metabattle heroes know so i prefer to protect my intellectual property

“no my build is super secret” is code for “I’m actually way too embarrassed of what I’m playing to show everyone”.

if you’ll ever make your own build which will get u to legendary let me know how embarrassed you are

Fivedawgs.4267:

Well, I couldn’t careless what you subhuman think, I think I understand the game pretty well and I have no trouble beating mesmer. So, the op should Post a video if he wants an advice or use a meta build

maybe thats because those mesmers are emerald or something ranked

Fivedawgs.4267:

Lol, he is playing a crappy build since it’s non meta. What a troll and he co.plains about losing a game:

Dude, here is an advice to win games you have to play a Metta build. Try metabattle and good luck.

Ahhahaa

good to have sub-legend players care so much about me to give me advices

Velimere.7685:

Lexander.4579:

poor mesmers were so overnerfed that they are still stomping legend games while class-stacking and literally doing the same rotation for every situation over and over while being able to easily outrotate every class in game and have the only complete shutdown skill in game

its chronobunker all over again except that now they also can kill you much faster

I don’t understand why you had to hide your own skill-bar.

The only conclusion that comes to mind is that you yourself were playing condi-cheese.

im playing my own build which none of metabattle heroes know so i prefer to protect my intellectual property

according to what fay.2357 says he probably didnt play gw2 since the release of HoT

you will turn into moa permanently

TheDeafGuy.4519:

Hi guys i made a legendary level pvp video with my condi theif, i understand this build is very cheese but it got me legendary twice and i would like feedback, thanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOKVSF8raBM

thats a cute build but i can see how you could improve it

i was afraid its going to be another sarcastic thread about legendary players because far not everyone is able to reach that level, but im glad to finally see a productive thread that can help inferior players to improve

+1 for your effort mate

Sirendor.1394:

Lexander.4579:

Sirendor.1394:

Inbe4 troll post

Oh wait…

Lexander.4579:

well if you cant carry legendaries yet then maybe you still deserve to stick around diamond for some more time

How about, if those legendaries suck so bad, maybe they don’t deserve to be in legendary at all?

well then why are they legendary?

MMR carry. Tons of players have pointed it out, the matchmaking this season is neither fair nor balanced.

somehow i stomped my way into legendary with little effort going on ridiculous win streaks and only now closer to the second legendary division i started meeting equally skilled players

which proves that the so-called “mmr carry” is just a myth of players who “always get bad team”

tsawr.7905:

You’re being so salty over one match. rip in pips.

if that was only one match i’d never mind it, unfortunately since metabattle builds spread like a plague and a good player can abuse mesmer to ridiculous extent the situation is going to become as sad as in s1 very soon unless anet will take measures in the coming patch

Jana.6831:

Lexander.4579:

you have written down all of my statements correctly, kudos to you, thief belongs at small scale pvp and roaming

Learn to play thief

son, im learning every day of my life not stopping even when people surrounding me acknowledge that im good, but thanks for reminding me

funny how the same people who whined about mesmer being underpowered are white knighting for that class even in that thread despite without any buffs “overnerfed mesmer” steadily became meta once more just as i called it 1.5 month ago

i pity them for being in such denial

Yasi.9065:

Typical rant from legendary that rode the lucktrain.

You know, us plebs… we’ve had to content with mesmers long before hitting legendary… which is probably how us plebs know, what to do to win those matches.

chances to see a mesmer who is able to do anything other than double moa in matches below legendary are low though so its likely you dont quite have an idea what mesmer can do

d/d elem has never been a good addition to this game, its been a good riddance though

SlimChance.6593:

Quickness stomps/rez’g has been part of the game since beta.

and its never been a good idea

better late than never though

Ayrilana.1396:

What’s your screenshot supposed to show? One team had two Mesmers and another had just one. The final score difference was 58 points.

son this is legend, 58 point difference here means more than 0-500 in your average ruby match, besides enemies have made plenty of mistakes including us stealing beasts and stuff but simply pressure from 2 mesmers was insane

when you have a class that can be present in 2 places at once while being one of the best duelists in game you cant really do anything about him decap-skitten outside of swarming the mesmer with 2+ people which puts your team at a huge disadvantage

poor mesmers were so overnerfed that they are still stomping legend games while class-stacking and literally doing the same rotation for every situation over and over while being able to easily outrotate every class in game and have the only complete shutdown skill in game

its chronobunker all over again except that now they also can kill you much faster

“mmr hell prisoner” nice term to describe your average joe who always blames his team

Hansen.3264:

I refuse to watch streamers on alt accounts blowing new people up

you’ve done your part of damage by opening twitch.tv on the first place so partly the blame is on you too

Jana.6831:

Lexander.4579:

people can use those vanilla or whatever buzzwords as they like, afterall usually those words have certain meanings forced upon them by people who dont have much clue and then it catches on and everybody else starts misusing them as well

Yes, and it makes perfectly sense that you know that and still answer a serious question about builds with that – cause you know better, right?

Lexander.4579:

you are bringing up some awkward example: some random thief died in the aoe chaos and you didnt, well good job, i suppose, but that sounds even more silly than boasting beating a random thief in a sapphire sPvP match

How is it you people never get the point?
The point is that you’re boasting about your perfect build and forget that there are hundred of smart thieves out there who tried the exact same build you feel successful and unique with.

Lexander.4579:

thief in blobs works, everything works in this game, including healer thief and tank thief since this game is just a silly casual game, but it still will be suboptimal with nearly or literally every other class outperforming thief in the said roles or situations

You do know that you don’t make much sense right now, yes?
1) You claim you have found the perfect build.
2) You claim thief is fine
3) You say thieves don’t belong in blobs
4) You say everything works
5) .. and this game is just brainless..

Btw: Valk/Zerker D/D thief, CS, SA, T – I’m still running mostly frontline, depending on the situation.

Lexander.4579:

as for pro playurs, well, since this game is having growth issues pro playurs arent really much of authority here, since they dont have a reason to spend 24/7 playing the game and as a result they are not likely going to be much better than your average legend player who just copy pasted his rev build from meta battle and progresses the tiers by having 50%+ win rate

And why do you have authority if the rest of us haven’t?

on topic of the “vanilla” word i simply like that my opinion usually matches the truth more than that of others, whether they agree with it or not so i feel totally fine to express it rather than just sticking to the false truths

if you think that my build has been tried then i have bad news for you, its so unusual that most of the time people are so surprised by my gameplay and build that when i first encounter the enemy 1v1 i simply kill them without any counterplay from them as they futilely try to defend themselves or counterattack

you have written down all of my statements correctly, kudos to you, thief belongs at small scale pvp and roaming, sure you can do anything with your thief, just how your parents tell you that you can be anything, but it doesnt mean that inside blob your mad cluster bomb and dagger storm skillz will outperform staff necromancer randomly pressing his weapon abilities in fact you are very likely to die simply trying to hit just anything within that meager 900 range of yours

i didnt say i have any more authority than others, in fact i’ll benefit more from people not listening or paying attention to what im saying but i just like to express my opinion that much

why strip boons if you can play necro and turn them into condis

Sirendor.1394:

Inbe4 troll post

Oh wait…

Lexander.4579:

well if you cant carry legendaries yet then maybe you still deserve to stick around diamond for some more time

How about, if those legendaries suck so bad, maybe they don’t deserve to be in legendary at all?

well then why are they legendary?

Hlord.5940:

Lexander.4579:

if you didnt see pro playurs playing mesmer it doesnt mean mesmer wasnt dominating in sPvP, mesmer has always been one of the strongest classes but required playing better than average in order to be used to the full extent

I am not sure if this guy is trolling or trying to starting a flame war or not.

First is his word: “playurs” not players
Second is “mesmer has always been on of the strongest classes”

On the first note, it might be because of a simple spelling mistake but the second quote is pure ignorant, if mesmer is always that strong why don’t we see them more in tournament in the past? or have you been living in a bizarro earth for the last 3 years?

because clearly gw2 pro playurs are not pro enough to realize the strength of mesmer’s portals and moa shutdowns and only now they are getting somewhere near understanding of the value of those 2 skills while at the same time mesmer is just as good in combat as any other class

Arcade.8901:

Lexander.4579:

So I’ve reached my legend rank and stuff and I’ve never been one of these PvE loot hoarders which have been after the legendary PvP backpack since the addition of ranked, but constantly seeing all this mass madness with backpack with people going as far as getting a mental breakdown over not being able to progress in PvP started filling me with the wish to get myself that backpack as well.

So here’s my problem: I have 100% participation as Thief in pvp sticking to it even in the most dire times (s1) and Im not willing to change that since it just fancies my view to see no other classes in my sPvP participation graph. Is there a way to get those profession achievements without getting other classes added to my sPvP class graph?

You can’t. Git Gud on other classes or forget about back pack. Overall git gud /thread

you dont have to “git gud” on other classes since you can just relog on them few seconds before you win the match

and in general you dont really have to “git gud” in gw2 to reach high rank anyway

coming up with good mmorpg names is really simple in GW2 since character names can be really long and you can put spaces in the name, i really like this about GW2

well if you cant carry legendaries yet then maybe you still deserve to stick around diamond for some more time

SlimChance.6593:

I knew I could count on Lexander support.

And if you knew anything about game design, you would know better.

its not so often when my opinion happens to be the same or similar to the opinion of the majority but whenever that happens then it simply means you have no chance to prove me wrong

if only i knew what is trailblazer anyway, when i read this all i can think of is a thief enjoying his 420

it should’ve never existed on the first place and people who want this to be brought back are either completely clueless about the game design or rev/mesmer mains or usually both

sanctuary.1068:

Lexander.4579:

Chaith.8256:

Get class wins on your achievements, but not your PvP stats? Seems very unrealistic, I’d say that’s something you’d just have to forego to keep your pure Thief account.

this is a shame, i’ve seen some people here get helpful advices about getting those achievements, so I hoped maybe there is a solution for my case too :[

How do you think it can be solved in another way when it clearly says you have to fight and win matches on other classes? Stupid thread. Forget your backpack then, its backpack or no backpack & thief 100%. You have two whole choices.

take it easy cowboy im reaching out for community’s wisdom right here

(and also hoping that seeing another one of these threads devs might eventually remove the req to play multiple classes for getting backpack)

taking beasts is actually most apropriate when you are ahead, especially if a person just died and they cant immediately rejoin the combat

so all this rant is about your false understanding of the game mechanics i suppose

Jana.6831:

Lexander.4579:

d/d thief was the vanilla build which has been used for several months after gw2 launch,

Alright, so you’re using vanilla differently than everybody else – ok.

Lexander.4579:

as for wvw blobs thief is simply not the right class to do that, sorry, you bring the squishiest class with the lowest range in game and zero AoE to the place where people trade their numbers and anyone who comes closer than 1.5k range is getting sniped down with prejudice and that have happened before HoT and will happen after HoT

Zero AoE.. alright then hides shortbow and daggerstorm
But question is: Why did I survive and the enemy thief died in the same situation?

BTW: I’m doing good – I die maybe 2 times a night and in most cases it’s because I tried to rez someone. For me a thief in blobs still works – although all of it could be better. What I tried to say though is: If 98% of all players say that thief is UP you can believe them. If you think you found the “right build and stuff” then you’re likely better than your enemies or being carried by your team(s). Or you just have very good teams and everybody carries themselves – but you can be very sure that there have been enough thieves around who tried every build possible and still say “thief is kitten” – they have a point – otherwise we would see them in Espurtz.

people can use those vanilla or whatever buzzwords as they like, afterall usually those words have certain meanings forced upon them by people who dont have much clue and then it catches on and everybody else starts misusing them as well

you are bringing up some awkward example: some random thief died in the aoe chaos and you didnt, well good job, i suppose, but that sounds even more silly than boasting beating a random thief in a sapphire sPvP match

thief in blobs works, everything works in this game, including healer thief and tank thief since this game is just a silly casual game, but it still will be suboptimal with nearly or literally every other class outperforming thief in the said roles or situations

as for pro playurs, well, since this game is having growth issues pro playurs arent really much of authority here, since they dont have a reason to spend 24/7 playing the game and as a result they are not likely going to be much better than your average legend player who just copy pasted his rev build from meta battle and progresses the tiers by having 50%+ win rate

Jana.6831:

Lexander.4579:

true if you still try to stick to the old glory of 5-2 d/p overlords you are going to get rekt

but if you adapt and change your thief build and playstyle significantly you can expect great results

Not sure if I trust someone who claims that D/D is the pvp vanilla thief..

ETA: I mean yesterday (in wvw, yes sorry) – I was with my blob in Durios, the other blob was in lords and came down – the whole area was plastered with red rings which I tried to avoid – There was only one tiny spot left without AoE and while I got there an enemy DrD staff thief (right next to me) tried to avoid our AoE and died instantly – so what does this mean? That thief is still good or bad?

d/d thief was the vanilla build which has been used for several months after gw2 launch, substantial nerfs to some thief abilities (rip dancing dagger the wrecking ball of 2-3 people groups) and people learning how to build and play to not be insta downed by CnD-steal-backstab has lead to thieves rerolling to d/p for the utility and safety it provided

somewhere in between there was also s/p abusing haste+pistol whip but that only led to pistol whip getting a huge nerf and thieves being pushed further towards the use of d/p

as for wvw blobs thief is simply not the right class to do that, sorry, you bring the squishiest class with the lowest range in game and zero AoE to the place where people trade their numbers and anyone who comes closer than 1.5k range is getting sniped down with prejudice and that have happened before HoT and will happen after HoT

your mistake on the first place was taking gw2 so serious, its just a silly casual game and grinding legendaries, masteries, PvE, whatever is all just a filler, you dont really have to do all those things to enjoy the game, you can run a round of world bosses 2-3 times per week and enjoy the game but if you grind out of your mind here 24/7 you wont like this game

someone with experience in oldschool mmorpgs should’ve been able to understand that but apparently not

not before these kittened up revenant dodges are gutted

if you didnt see pro playurs playing mesmer it doesnt mean mesmer wasnt dominating in sPvP, mesmer has always been one of the strongest classes but required playing better than average in order to be used to the full extent

its PvE wars

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true if you still try to stick to the old glory of 5-2 d/p overlords you are going to get rekt

but if you adapt and change your thief build and playstyle significantly you can expect great results