I just write whats true. You are probably a premader am i right? But i feel even if you are you still say you are not and not premaded duo/trio your way to Dia/Legend.
i did diamond solo in under 50 matches
shame, i’ve done the same thing and just salvaged the other ring
+1 this should be added
i’d block all diamond and legend players to stomp baddies all day long with pleasure
Blocking Diamond and Legend players doesn’t mean you block better players than lets say a solo player that stuck in Ruby and cant climb ladder because he is not playing duo/trio q or full premade. A lot of Diamond and Legend players are worse than me and im only Ruby still i beat them 1v1. Some of them are free kills and play bad. See Diamond and Legend icon shows player skill lol. The system just fail to show player skill as it put solo player against premades. you can climb ladder with premades against soloers. it doesn’t mean you are better player than a soloer that stuck in lower division as you take advantage to climb ladder in premade. sometimes happen i get someone who is Ruby like me that party up with 2 Amber and 1 emerald and i have to play and carry them vs a full ruby team. nice matchmaking for a solo player gg anet fun pvp and chance to progress as soloq. You know whats the results, we getting rekt. So the system doesn’t allow me to progress without atleast duo group.
nice attempt to hide the usual set of excuses of being a low rank behind a wall of text
+1 this should be added
i’d block all diamond and legend players to stomp baddies all day long with pleasure
I think the idea was the blocked players won’t come to your team, but they can be on the enemy team. So blocking all diamond and legend players causes you to never play with them, but you might go against them.
i wont because of how matchmaking works: if ill get 4 sub-diamond players on my team then the enemy team will have at least 4 sub-diamond players as well
+1 this should be added
i’d block all diamond and legend players to stomp baddies all day long with pleasure
do you dumb LoL kids even know what word “Elo” means?
Next balance patch:
Mesmer
Portal: Enemies can now use opponent portals in SPvP.
thats how it should’ve been from the beginning
Care to justify that assertion?
Oh, silly me, of course not.
being able to be present simultaneously at 2 locations is a very huge advantage in sPvP: decaping/capturing a point and instantly returning back into the fight creates extreme pressure on enemies
people complain about double moa because, well, its the most obvious thing to do with continuum split but they have no idea how powerful double portals are
i think you should be grateful to your teammates for winning 4v5 so that you dont get a point loss and a desertion instead of complaining of not getting a point for a game you were afk at
nice i suppose ill just stand still and do nothing while another guy is hitting me because a headshot-spamming thief decided to gank me
Yes, sounds like a good way to kill the thief. He won’t have any initiative for anything else.
shouldnt be a big deal for him since i will be dead anyway
HS does like half as much damage (edit: probably more like a quarter as much damage?) as autoattacking and costs 1/3rd of their entire initiative pool. You’re not going to die to HS. You might die to some efficient, well-timed uses of it, but not to it by itself.
i said that i will be fighting another guy while thief will gank me and spam headshots
why are you imagining a 1v1 scenario against a thief? what thief ever goes 1v1?
there is a ton of bad stolen skills both in pvp and pve
stolen skills need a major rework and soon especially considering that nearly every profession got their profession skills significantly upgraded while thieves are still stuck with their old steal
i might post a thread on that subject later
Next balance patch:
Mesmer
Portal: Enemies can now use opponent portals in SPvP.
thats how it should’ve been from the beginning
nice i suppose ill just stand still and do nothing while another guy is hitting me because a headshot-spamming thief decided to gank me
Yes, sounds like a good way to kill the thief. He won’t have any initiative for anything else.
shouldnt be a big deal for him since i will be dead anyway
zero mention of impacting disruption trait on thief?
interrupting some important skill is already a reward in itself and having d/p braindead thieves spam headshot to interrupt auto-attacks just to proc the trait is stupid
this trait needs a c/d obviously
Spamming head shot only works if the target is trying to spam skills. Eat them when a thief spams the headshot or get some stability on. The person that is braindead is the one who continues to try and proc a skill while at the end of a headshot spam.
This very much like confusion and reflect. You do not use RF when an enemy runs reflect. You do not keep attacking when you have confusion stacks on you.
nice i suppose ill just stand still and do nothing while another guy is hitting me because a headshot-spamming thief decided to gank me
tbh scrapper and rev annoy me so much that im getting kittened from simply seeing their skill animations
I think the real question here is why is a thief complaining that mesmer is broken. A good thief completely shuts down a mesmer.
i think “comparing” fits here more than “complaining”
no thx i dont want 12 years old mesmer mains squealing in my ear
equip d/d and amulet with 1.2k condi
bind your dodge key to your mouse left click
Yeah, but the ones you do post in instantly acquire incredible levels of salt.
Seriously, I’m curious as to what you think you’re accomplishing. You’re not ‘spreading the word’, you’re turning yourself into a laughingstock. Even non-mesmers know who you are, and chuckle whenever they see your name because it’s a guarantee that a salty post of epic proportions is coming up. Do you realize how comically immature all your posting is?
so you are some sort of community ambassador to speak for everyone? nice
if i stopped playing mesmer i would feel good too, playing this broken class every day would make me feel dirty
you are worse than dirty you know , so at least its improvement for you . enjoy
nice try to make me play mesmer, but if i wanted unfair advantage i’d rather play rev, at least melee class is more interesting
I don’t know what your problem is, but you need to go see a proctologist. You are just about at the top of the charts for the worst case of kitten ever. I don’t know if there is a single mesmer thread you haven’t QQ on. Stop being a baby, go get potty trained, and stop bothering us. We aren’t interested in babysitting you.
there is ton of mesmer threads where i didnt post but i understand you are blinded with hatred towards me for spreading the word about that broken class
posting on forum takes the most skill
That bullkitten has been there in WvW for a long time. What bugs me about it is that you can play defensive and still win 1v1 fight (and be quite an annoyance in some TFs too). It’s very confusing (and not just because of NaN NanN stacks of confusion) and dodgy build.
But the matter of the fact is, why do I see so many condi mesmers running around on diamond/ruby while I only encountered one d/d thief yesterday.Because Condi mes still has portal? and team utility like Moa.
And thief has what?
i call that selfowned
and in case u forgot mesmer has a braindead spam of invul/evade/block frame abilities which are easily better than thief’s dodge spam
You can’t be serious. Your claiming that Mesmer’s can out “invul/evade/block frame” a Thief/Daredevil?
F4, F5, shield 4, sword 2, regular dodges
in case if you didnt know DD has only 1 more dodge bar than other classes + 1 more dodge if they manage to steal succesfully
oh and those mesmer skills recharge faster and/or last longer than dodges
Play shatter mesmer and let’s see if it’s braindead.
There is a difference between condi and power.
i didnt say mesmer is braindead, my main problem is that a top skilled mesmer player will surely beat a top skilled player of most other classes, let alone all the utility mesmer brings into the team
however the safety of mesmer is braindead and it takes no skill to use it + use mesmer’s utility which is usually enough to tip the scales even when the player is not particularly skilled
That’s not sufficient. Why is the “safety of mesmer” braindead and takes no skill? This is a statement that demands an xplanation. Surely active defense requires more skill than passives or armor?
because mesmer doesnt need to use those skills to avoid some particular skill or deny/survive a burst, they just spam those skills because they are low cooldown and long duration
Sure, why would you waste 1 second cast time for those 10 seconds of EVERY BOON in the game. Totally not worth it.
its not every boon in game, its missing quickness and resistance (which is quite important against condi spammer mesmer tbh) also some boons it gives dont last 10 seconds, dont remember which ones
idk why are you complaining about steal anyway, most stolen items from other professions are useless and indeed consume plasma is one of the least useless stolen items, however it doesnt make steal anywhere good as profession skills of other classes or mesmer in particular
if i stopped playing mesmer i would feel good too, playing this broken class every day would make me feel dirty
you are worse than dirty you know , so at least its improvement for you . enjoy
nice try to make me play mesmer, but if i wanted unfair advantage i’d rather play rev, at least melee class is more interesting
Funny how, you can call out multiple builds of a Mesmer, but yet stipulate a “DD Thief”.
And speaking of steal.. can you say “Consume Plasma”! 10 seconds of EVERY BOON (i.e. Protection, Aegis, Retaliation, Regeneration, Might, and so on and so on.) And having that every ~20 or so seconds.
consume plasma has a 1 sec cast time, good luck stunning yourself for 1 sec as a thief and not dying and even if you survive trading all the damage you take during that cast time is not worth all those buffs
That bullkitten has been there in WvW for a long time. What bugs me about it is that you can play defensive and still win 1v1 fight (and be quite an annoyance in some TFs too). It’s very confusing (and not just because of NaN NanN stacks of confusion) and dodgy build.
But the matter of the fact is, why do I see so many condi mesmers running around on diamond/ruby while I only encountered one d/d thief yesterday.Because Condi mes still has portal? and team utility like Moa.
And thief has what?
i call that selfowned
and in case u forgot mesmer has a braindead spam of invul/evade/block frame abilities which are easily better than thief’s dodge spam
You can’t be serious. Your claiming that Mesmer’s can out “invul/evade/block frame” a Thief/Daredevil?
F4, F5, shield 4, sword 2, regular dodges
in case if you didnt know DD has only 1 more dodge bar than other classes + 1 more dodge if they manage to steal succesfully
oh and those mesmer skills recharge faster and/or last longer than dodges
Play shatter mesmer and let’s see if it’s braindead.
There is a difference between condi and power.
i didnt say mesmer is braindead, my main problem is that a top skilled mesmer player will surely beat a top skilled player of most other classes, let alone all the utility mesmer brings into the team
however the safety of mesmer is braindead and it takes no skill to use it + use mesmer’s utility which is usually enough to tip the scales even when the player is not particularly skilled
That bullkitten has been there in WvW for a long time. What bugs me about it is that you can play defensive and still win 1v1 fight (and be quite an annoyance in some TFs too). It’s very confusing (and not just because of NaN NanN stacks of confusion) and dodgy build.
But the matter of the fact is, why do I see so many condi mesmers running around on diamond/ruby while I only encountered one d/d thief yesterday.Because Condi mes still has portal? and team utility like Moa.
And thief has what?
i call that selfowned
and in case u forgot mesmer has a braindead spam of invul/evade/block frame abilities which are easily better than thief’s dodge spam
You can’t be serious. Your claiming that Mesmer’s can out “invul/evade/block frame” a Thief/Daredevil?
F4, F5, shield 4, sword 2, regular dodges
in case if you didnt know DD has only 1 more dodge bar than other classes + 1 more dodge if they manage to steal succesfully
oh and those mesmer skills recharge faster and/or last longer than dodges
That bullkitten has been there in WvW for a long time. What bugs me about it is that you can play defensive and still win 1v1 fight (and be quite an annoyance in some TFs too). It’s very confusing (and not just because of NaN NanN stacks of confusion) and dodgy build.
But the matter of the fact is, why do I see so many condi mesmers running around on diamond/ruby while I only encountered one d/d thief yesterday.Because Condi mes still has portal? and team utility like Moa.
And thief has what?
i call that selfowned
and in case u forgot mesmer has a braindead spam of invul/evade/block frame abilities which are easily better than thief’s dodge spam
if i stopped playing mesmer i would feel good too, playing this broken class every day would make me feel dirty
i agree mesmers should be deleted
its actually one of my favorite challenges, you simply need to learn how to use the skills you have to the maximum benefit while wasting as little time as possible doing regular running
only if you eat before the effect of the previous food expires
ferocity helped to capitalize on enemy mistakes and end the game before your team is able to throw tranquility
also people often ignored ferocity as it shows in this thread so taking it was a matter of 5 seconds since enemies never contested it
not a big loss but a pretty pointless update nevertheless
im pretty sure this build will get stomped by a random rev or scrapper since they have bigger sustained damage and bigger survivability
also zero chances against druid or elem, simply lack of crit damage wont let you overpower their sustain and you’ll eventually have to move away because unlike your endurance bar their heals are endless
fist flurry is absolutely useless unless you carry enough stuns to be able to land it succesfully and basilisk venom + chain from bandit’s defense is far from being enough
zero mention of impacting disruption trait on thief?
interrupting some important skill is already a reward in itself and having d/p braindead thieves spam headshot to interrupt auto-attacks just to proc the trait is stupid
this trait needs a c/d obviously
if you like easy faceroll go rev if you prefer challenge go thief, as simple as that
I keep seeing teams where one person or more would stop trying and deliberately throw the match. Instead of leaving, they stay in base the entire round.
Reporting doesn’t seem to be doing much, as I see the same people doing it. Is there anything being done about this?
Don’t do stupid crap and people won’t go afk.
Examples:
From match start, two or three people cap home (and maybe even stay on it) – I go afk.
Before start you see your opponents team having two Reapers and two Dragonhunters while my team has three thieves and no one is willing to switch) – I go afk.
Match starts, one caps home, rest goes mid, immediate three people from my team are getting one-shot on mid because they don’t know how to dodge/invulnerable/block – I go afk.
Trying to communicate but nobody responds followed by a huge mess – I go afk.
I am not pro and I do not expect my teammates are the best. Just don’t do stupid crap. So if you see mee in your team, you better have some brain cells left. I am not here to make friends in PvP, I am here to win. Believe me when I say that I don’t give a crap about others, even less about complete idiots. Also do not think my opinion is unique, most afk’ers share this opinion. Maybe the only difference is that they could actually be looking for some friends, that’s probably the reason they don’t say it like I do…
Grtz…
FOX…
people like you are the reason why this game is getting more kitten day by day
plz go to lol or dota2, thats wheres the right place for the likes of you
Well if afk’ers are your biggest problem in this game¿ Hahahaha! Blame Arenanet, they are the ones who need to make sure people who play ranked should know at least the basics of PvP. Maybe you people need to think further then your own problems only¿ There is a huge group of people who afk in matches, so Arenanet should go look at the core of the problem and ask themselves the question; “Why are so many people willing to buy a game, install the game and choose a game mode to play, followed by staring at your screen until the other people are finished playing the game mode you picked, what was initially meant to play with them.”
But hey, I wish you guys a lot of fun wasting your time on an already lost game. Don’t expect me to do the same, especially not when my wife is sitting here next to me. Ya’ll can blow my little whistle…
the core problem of people afking in the matches is that those people are kitten and should be treated like kitten, but to my knowledge Anet has never banned anyone for such attitude
the day (if it happens) when this forum will be filled with “GG ANET BANNED ME UNFAIR” threads is the day when this kitten with afkers and simply people with trash attitude will stop, until then i suppose you are going to keep killing this game
I keep seeing teams where one person or more would stop trying and deliberately throw the match. Instead of leaving, they stay in base the entire round.
Reporting doesn’t seem to be doing much, as I see the same people doing it. Is there anything being done about this?
Don’t do stupid crap and people won’t go afk.
Examples:
From match start, two or three people cap home (and maybe even stay on it) – I go afk.
Before start you see your opponents team having two Reapers and two Dragonhunters while my team has three thieves and no one is willing to switch) – I go afk.
Match starts, one caps home, rest goes mid, immediate three people from my team are getting one-shot on mid because they don’t know how to dodge/invulnerable/block – I go afk.
Trying to communicate but nobody responds followed by a huge mess – I go afk.
I am not pro and I do not expect my teammates are the best. Just don’t do stupid crap. So if you see mee in your team, you better have some brain cells left. I am not here to make friends in PvP, I am here to win. Believe me when I say that I don’t give a crap about others, even less about complete idiots. Also do not think my opinion is unique, most afk’ers share this opinion. Maybe the only difference is that they could actually be looking for some friends, that’s probably the reason they don’t say it like I do…
Grtz…
FOX…
people like you are the reason why this game is getting more kitten day by day
plz go to lol or dota2, thats wheres the right place for the likes of you
as you properly noted “it’s more of a status upgrade than a stats upgrade”
people will always be kittening about something, be it gear, title or achievement points
even if all of that will be removed all together elitists or simply losers who are afraid of failing something will find something new to use as an artificial bar for new players
isnt it that thief i stomp every time i see him on enemy team
I called it
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/What-with-those-Condi-Mesmer/first#post5984584
mesmer mains are even worse than scrapper/rev mains, at least the latter ones are not constantly begging for buffs for their class under the excuse of it being weak
silly kids absolutely must bring all their pve swag to pvp
Lex, no not at all. Immunity is lazy and pointless on thief, especially if it’s in stealth which is where thief is stronger. It would force x/p and bound from DD in replacement of dagger, shadow refuge would be a free ‘you can’t touch me haha’ button for anyone without a lot of AoE, any smoke field would be mandatory, SA would be mandatory like Trickery already is for the most part. You see where this is going? Any form of stealth would be required because it would make you unkillable every 4 sec. No thanks, that’s over the top and extremely OP. Not just for thief either, mes and scrapper both have stealth too.
lol i guess i have to clarify that wasnt some sort of serious balance suggestion, it would require tuning ton of skills and no sane person would want scrappers to benefit from it with all their ridiculousness we already have to deal with
the only thing I kept in my mind while saying that was how I played the classic d/d zerk build with CnD-steal-backstab combo
actually they could make stealth grant immunity to all skills except ground AoE, I remember all the frustration I got in this game 3.5 years ago when I tried to fight warriors just to have them spin around cleaving with GS in front of themselves with AA and get me downed from stealth easily
in exchange for this buff… they could remove the d/p 5-2 combo, I think everyone would be happy :^)
congratz mate, good players rise easily in this season, that much is true and remember to ignore the low ranked haters who would rather blame the game and trashtalk their betters than learn to play
i wouldnt say that becoming good comes as “free stuff”, unless of course there is some algorithm conspiracy behind all that where some people are born as good players and some are doomed to be bad
The algorithm hand out win streak to some people and loss streak to others.
And you are probably the only one who isn’t are of this by now.
Or perhaps you thought you won because you were awesome ?I dont think I win because I am “awesome”. I believe Im winning because of the time and effort I put into learning the game and becoming better
That is a very nice thought, but no.
if you tried to do that too you would agree, but its easier to assume that you are hunted by the predatory algorithm of course
i wouldnt say that becoming good comes as “free stuff”, unless of course there is some algorithm conspiracy behind all that where some people are born as good players and some are doomed to be bad
The algorithm hand out win streak to some people and loss streak to others.
And you are probably the only one who isn’t are of this by now.
Or perhaps you thought you won because you were awesome ?
I dont think I win because I am “awesome”. I believe Im winning because of the time and effort I put into learning the game and becoming better
its not season which sucks its players
its not posts which sucks its posters.
trashtalking good players on forum wont get you out of your loss streak, you should stop verbally abusing your team and read your skills and that should be enough to easily get to ruby
I am not in a lose streak because I can’t be bothered to play. You happy now ?
The algorithm is broken, it snowballs MMR. Everyone knows about it, and you pretend it’s the players, very quaint.maybe if you followed my advice you would already start improving yourself instead of losing the time blaming the “algorithm” or MMR
Why I should follow the advise of someone who couldn’t figure out the algorithm is broken ?
you shouldnt really do anything what others tell you, i merely wanted to help, but one can be helped only if they want to be helped
There is nothing you can do to help. If you want to be helpful go read up on the algorithm, understand exactly how it works, and you will see why it’s basically a slot machine.
an algorithm decides for you how you will play and what will be your performance? i dont think so
The algorithm decide that there is nothing I can do to change the outcome.
in all honesty i doubt that, unless of course you are enslaved by some sort of robotic augmentation in your brain which forces you to lose your matches
Unfortunately it’s true. People wouldn’t be here complaining, quitting and venting their anger if the matchmaking system didn’t force you to lose by putting you amongst the losing team and clueless players who’re as smart as door nails.
these “door nails” you are speaking about are actually complaining about the matchmaking system right here alongside with you
yes i like the new matchmaking i can literally feel how good players like me rise easily to the top while bads who whine about matchmaking and necromancers stay 2 dvisions below us
Good players? Do you have any idea how many terrible players are being carried right now to top divisions, just because they abused and tanked their MMR last season? Now the system consider them good and because of that they ride the win streak wave and think themselves some pvp gods. To be honest if they were that good like you said, they would not want to be carried artifficially by a fundamentally broken system. They would want competitive games, where they can show their skill and emerge from a game with the knowledge that they ACTUALLY earned it and fought hard for it. The fact that the so called “pros” – (and yes the "" is intensional) were completely alright with cleaving through groups of new players a long the way tells me they are way less skilled then they make themselves to be.
The fact that you come here and straight away claim you are a good player, because ‘good players like you EASILY rise to the top ranks.’ is enough to know you are in fact a bad player caught in a lucky win streak. Any system that privilages a certain group of people, while ignoring the rest is not a good system, but its a flawed system.
The only way this system would ever be fair and balanced is if Anet finally open their eyes and remove MMR all together from ranked and league MM. The system must only consider pip range and division standing when calculates a MM.During this first week, since the league started I lost count how many times I’ve seen some “pro” claiming the system is good, because it carries easily the “good” players through the rank. How is that a good system? And how are those a good players if they need to be held by the hand and carried? Skilled players are supposed to be skilled, right? Why then the so-called pro players are so afraid of facing even matches from the start of the league? Why do they need a system to carry them to the -supposed- high division they belong to. Yes this is the words of most of this supposed skilled players. That they belong in a highest division. Then PROVE IT. Dont have a broken system carry you, but prove that you belong in high division, by facing equally skilled players, not a completely new one. Too afraid of the rude awakening that maybe you are not so good after all? Of course you are, because its such a better ego booster to cleave through hordes of new players and think yourself the best players in the world.
No matter what you believe or like, the system is flawed, its being proven to be flawed, and thats the rude awakening, which you and the others like you will face very soon, when you hit the lose streaks or the 1-2 hours long queues. Enjoy your “amazing” season!
thats quite a large post you’ve got there so ill only focus on its fundamental moment: opposite to the claims you made in your post there are actually very few players who say that the system is good, as it should be, since good players who are the minority are rewarded by the system and bad players which are the large and vocal majority are being encouraged to become better, but instead of improving they are complaining all over the forum and HotM map chat about losing
Nobody will complain about being handed free stuff.
i wouldnt say that becoming good comes as “free stuff”, unless of course there is some algorithm conspiracy behind all that where some people are born as good players and some are doomed to be bad
its not season which sucks its players
its not posts which sucks its posters.
trashtalking good players on forum wont get you out of your loss streak, you should stop verbally abusing your team and read your skills and that should be enough to easily get to ruby
I am not in a lose streak because I can’t be bothered to play. You happy now ?
The algorithm is broken, it snowballs MMR. Everyone knows about it, and you pretend it’s the players, very quaint.maybe if you followed my advice you would already start improving yourself instead of losing the time blaming the “algorithm” or MMR
Why I should follow the advise of someone who couldn’t figure out the algorithm is broken ?
you shouldnt really do anything what others tell you, i merely wanted to help, but one can be helped only if they want to be helped
There is nothing you can do to help. If you want to be helpful go read up on the algorithm, understand exactly how it works, and you will see why it’s basically a slot machine.
an algorithm decides for you how you will play and what will be your performance? i dont think so
The algorithm decide that there is nothing I can do to change the outcome.
in all honesty i doubt that, unless of course you are enslaved by some sort of robotic augmentation in your brain which forces you to lose your matches