ether renewal is slow….
20 in water is almost mandatory :/ that because cantrip reduction, and cond cleanse are still a thing..
Expecially since you desperately need lightning flash for mobility with a 40 second RTL or any profession will outrun you.
I will try for sure
30/10/0/0/30 but i know i will change for sure :/ maybe 30/20/0/20/0 but the loss of all arcana trait is heavy…
Until they cancel RTL nerf i can t see anything helping me to leave 30 arcana and 20 water
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
Harpy Fractal midboss is a DPS check? I thought it was a put the things in the thing check. I haven’t played 30+ so I’m pretty scrub tier but I didn’t think it changed after that.
You have 4 crystals per side …. if you run out of crystals you simply lose.
People don t know it because today there are so many DPS builds that you Always end up with 2-3 DPS in your party.
In the beginning pugs used to fail the check and thus have one player to die in order to get 2X crystals.
That was due also to the fact we had a noticeable power creep in dps for many professions.
Same can be said for veterans in the lava fractal…
Its a dps check…if you can t kill them fast enough it becomes a CC test (that is extremely difficult for most parties)…
When tank guardians were popular it was frequent to fail that part.
There are even more…that are either “easy” if you follow the DPS check or way harder if you lack it….
Still the issue is not zerker…is grinding pushing to play for rewards (people nowaday call it “efficience” because “farming” doesn’t sound as good) rather than for fun…
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
Frankly i believe the fire trait is extremely fun…
Unfortunately ferocity and rune change will hurt DD ele extra hard…..
The loss of a huge % of dps paired with the long cooldowns means burst becomes weaker…
Buff duration will suffer from rune nerf, while 2H weapons will get a second sigils making the gap smaller.
The issue with the fire trait also is that force elementalist to leave the water line.
That means giving up condition cleanse and forcing ele to slot cleansing fire.
But since cantrip nerf you are already short on utilities:
Are equally needed…..
You also lose cantrip mastery….
There is no way to change ele build diversity without addressing SKILLS rather than traits.
Maybe in pvp ….but not in WWW
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
Just remove stats on equip….
Ascended should have swappable stats considering how grindy it is.
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
ascended berserker doesn t get functionality change…
Its still the DPS set
Celestial changes from a balanced set to a tanky set..
Its not a nerf its a CHANGE…. like if zerker became soldier.
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
kyon there are lot of tanky ele build…
We need some form of survivability that can be applied to balanced and zerk.
And “when hit” i something shouldn t even appear in elementalist traits…..
(you get protection when you have so low HP that you won t really care about protection)
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
This won t work for me…
You lack con cleanse, 2 heals…and you are investing on the most damaged trait by the patch (ferocity => crit damage)
i’d rather go:
30/0/0/10/30 or 30/0/10/0/30 or 30/0/0/20/20
You get the master trait in fire to clear cond, the new GM for blind…cleansing fire that cleanse and apply blindness…..
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
As i said with diamond skin….
I ll say here again..
Trash trait totally forgotten in 1 month.
Nobody will get this as grandmaster trait in the worst trait tree for elementalist.
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
Sword+Warhorn/GS warriors are exceptional at running and killing upleveled baddies/first time WVW’ers.
There you go.
Well should i tell you how to use mobility?
What about taking a far target and putting it into combat because you havethe best mobility in game, so your party mates can catch you fast, costantly having the freedom to choose numeric advantage fights?
Most warriors do that…because they seems to like 4VS1 a lot.
This ended up being the mirror discussion about thieves….
And i still don t get why elementalist that has nothing, is denied any form of mobility while profession having everything have the best in game.
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
Elementalist is the example of all that is wrong with anet balancing.
Skills have been nerfed costantly.
Traits have been buffed.
That is why you get some dps only if you totally trait offensively (also need multihit to get the most from traits and slow heavy hitting skills becomes useless), but when you just miss one or two of those traits your DPS falls back between the worst in the game.
Aside that, such system hurts build diversity….
And the sad part is the feature patch will destroy even more balanced builds…..
(rune, sigil and ferocity changes will hit ele the most across the board).
Seems they didn t learn anthing from the past.
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
He may be right but only if he doesn t play ele since launch….
Staff used to be viable few month post launch and in beta…..
Was nerfed hard…
The best nerf was the ressing sigil that was nerfed for any profession but….. Warriors
Makes me smile the new GM trait is pushing staff ele to the same job it did prenerfs.
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
There aren’t any gear checks in PvE. No boss that you must burst down in 5mins or less before he 1 shots you etc. The only timed encounters are open world bosses which can’t be crit I believe.
actually PVE is full of DPS checks.
From harpy fractal midboss to ascaloninan p2 boss, to ooze in reactor etc etc etc….
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
Cog as if i doesn t daily put stuns + condition on warriors just to see them lol clean and fly away….
Feel free to read any of the many topics explaining why cleansing ire is mandatory in pvp or www section just answering all your points…
Will save both of us time.
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
“how the hell does heavy armor class outruns thief and ele???”
This is a game.
Yet the “heavy armour” translates in passive survivability and vitality.
And profession who would need a compensation instead lacks totally the mobility.
The key would be the tradeoff spoken by izzy.
Elementalist has mobility as tradeoff for “versatility”…(plus: health, armor, cooldowns, range, reduced effectivity etc etc)
I would like to hear wich tradeoff warrior is supposed to have.
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
You forgot this is one of the few games with stats tied to equipment…and was designed with easy to change equipment in mind…(until some guy had the brilliant idea of ascended equip….obviously ignoring how the game works).
The change in celestial functionality is unique only to celestial and wupwup…..
Other players will still have the same functionality..
Its like taking a dps mage and changing it into a healer after 2 years of game….people would be mad….
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
Changing functionality of a GRINDY equipment already obtained by players is total disrespect towards players and totally unprofessional.
At least if there is not balancing reasons that clearly are not celestial case being Underpowered.
We are still treated as test servers for china launch
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
Its not about the escape…
Given the fact RTLing from 400+ range meanse being 100% evaded, it means RTL is just 40 sec cd.
Once you burnt that you have literally 0 skills to stay in range.
Earth 3/3 is totally unreliable and useless against people with cond cleanse, stealth, teleport or just evasions…
DD ele basically is the profession who let almost any profession disengage and reengage at will even the slowest.
Until today you can just fight it with burst….but in the future with dps reduced there will be no role for DD in any situation from WWW to PvE…i won t comment on pvp.
P.S. fixing block and Aegis is not enough…
They should at least change the skill as they planned when they annunced the nerf.
I.E. no double cd on evasion, blind, invul and block…..but mostly evasion since the skill is far too easy to evade.
Or just reverting the CD nerf….would be the best option and wouldn t even give DD ele a similar escape chance like war and thief….(despite ele lacks the other mechanics that makes those 2 profession immortal).
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
No he was so excited because ele would have a new role….
If you look at traits he refers clearly to STAFF ele becoming a HEALER.
Since even this is OT i won t discuss on the reason given by ANET itself for removing healers from the game…that proves a certain hate from anet towards ele profession.
And again its not about D/D
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
They should just remove the AoE cap seriously.. if you’re stupid enough to keep standing in a circle you deserve to die.
OT…
Aoe caps exists to reduce server lag not to balance stuff.
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
WWW is meant to be unbalnaced was dead months ago…..stop deraliling topic please.
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
post patch 5 level 50 runs…
drop: 1 UNINFUSED ring and out of those 5 i heard just 1 armor drop in the party.
I hear all guild dropping stuff from level 10 to 30…
Loot tables are obviously broken….
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
I don t really think you can ask to switch to earth to answer an attack….
Its not the proper game to do that and if possible there are lot of easier answers for better results (see 100% immunity+ damage).
Imho devs with this and what they said about dagger fire 3 forgot how attunement works…
They think we are sitting in a single one and they have no cooldown
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
We don t want ferocity at all but since we know anet won t listen as Always when it comes of balancing delicate changes, we are trying to call a smaller nerfs.
Reality is ferocity has no reason to exists.
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
You know a profession has insane escape capabilities when it starts being a scouting profession.
But if it’s in WvW, why are you losing – or rather, why are you fighting – against a PU Mesmer? They’re so rubbish unless the enemy actively tries to kill them.
Just take a party and hunt the highwayman specs, Thieves, Mesmers, Warriors, everyone. Silly players will always try to play 1v1, and it’s easy to crush them.
No…
Mesmer is exactly what proves how easy is to kite a D/D ele without proper burst…
I am on both sides of the situation since i play both ele and mesmer.
And please we are not here to debate why roamers have a role in WWW… you can just read the hundred answers given to warrior and thieves trying to defend their status…
Having people to flip camps alone or harass spawnponts or once again scouting NEEDS A COUNTER.
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
if a PU mesmer can t get away from a DD ele the issue is on the mesmer player….
Stealth alone is more than enough to escape any profession but warrior and thief.
Because every Mesmer you meet is PU Blackwater, right? Because every Mesmer you meet runs a 1v1 spec?
Yes and yes…. and i play WWW daily…
You know a profession has insane escape capabilities when it starts being a scouting profession.
P.S: please don t asnwer the guy talking about meteor shower in a topic about D/D and ride the lightning ..its totally OT.
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
if a PU mesmer can t get away from a DD ele the issue is on the mesmer player….
Stealth alone is more than enough to escape any profession but warrior and thief.
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
Its about a melee profession lacking any way to stay melee.
You can give 100.000 HP to DD ele but if you let any other profession escape at will and nerf ELE burst damage you will be useless even more than warrior was at release.
Whatever devs do they should give a way for ele to stay in the proper range without being kited…CC isn t working since they changed how breakstun deals with launch…
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
Where did you drop sentinel equipment?
Sentinel is craftable and thus shouldn tdrop insignias at all..
Or are you referring to soldier?
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
8 months playing WvW, same server, under a couple of different guilds (1 defensive, 1 offensive) depending on what I feel like doing. If I get bored/annoyed with that (and it’s usually the people that annoy me, not the game), I go do something else for a while.
Some of the complaining on this forum is outrageously gratuitous.
“Warrior is OP”
“Warrior sucks”
“Ranger is OP”
“Ranger sucks”
“Thief is OP”
“Thief sucks”
“Upcoming changes suck” (before they’ve even been seen, tested or looked at in the big picture.
“Anet sucks”
It’s all so incredibly negative. Hardly any kudos to Anet for the amazing game we have the privileged lives to play. Anet actively tries to kitten players off? As if.
So community says Warrior is OP.
Patch reult HUGE warrior buff
Since healing signet 8% will be compared to the 20-30% damage nerf of ferocity patch
2H sigil with fast hands.
And many more nerfs…
Can you see now why people complain?
Anets does Always the opposite of what is asked by players….no wonder people is upset.
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
It have been talken many times but before today we didn t had a patch hitting ele so hard while being so weak.
In WWW ferocity will kill any chance of roaming.
The rune change will hit ele directly.
The second sigil on 2H will again push 2H weapons hitting D/D
The weapon swap sigil buff loss will once again hit burst.
Ele DD lacks everything post patch…i can t even blind opponent if i can t keep them in fight.
Today fighting in WWW with an ele is already an uphill battle…after patch will just be trash.
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
Ferocity is the exact definition of lazy development.
If WWW has the huge issue of condimeta and bunkers.
And PvE just want the highest dps whatever it will be
Ferocity don t change PvE issues while ruining even more WWW.
This is the worst balance mistake since release…and they did a lot already but seems they works towards a totally broken meta where Warriors can outrun and outheal everything whil doing the same damage of a dps build with soldier equipment.
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
I don t know about TESO but for sure i can t explain how developers are trying with every single patch to go against everything asked by players in term of balance….
What reason can be given to ferocity?
Its unwanted, unneeded and will damage the game in the second most popular game mode while doing nothing in PVE.
And its obviously one of those things where the development collaboration will be deaf to……because CDI works only on stuff they already planned…if you agree with them there is CDI otherwise there is silence….
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
With ferocity change you are totally destroying D/D ele.
D/D is already forced into burst because has no mean of staying melee….but with a 20-30% burst reduction ele will just die…having everything on cooldown without even being a threat.
Why are you doing to elementalist the same thing that was the main cause of warrior being out of meta?
the lack of mobility is definitely an issue RTL was a key spell of dual daggers, and i think you can understand why a FULL MELEE profession needs something to stay in combat range.
Or you can boost of 20% the damage of all D/D skill to compensate….but what you are doing is pushing D/D ele straight out of WWW wheree already is struggling.
Please reduce cooldown on RTL
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
They are nerfing each build that is not OP in WWW….it s not rocket science they are about to do the worst balancing mistake since release for WWW…..
As its now balanced specs can struggle to kill conditions and bunkers…
After patch power specs will be hit hard remember 22% less damage is HUGE.
If you add traits and food i bet its 30-40% damage nerf…..
That goes nicely along the 8% healing signet nerf for warrior to give them an nsane buff
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
this will destroy totally www and make warriors and guardians unkillable beast with the best dps while being tanks….
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
The change has sense if they plan to introduce new vertical progression..
Expect vertical progression infusions….
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
Also all the 2 handed swords are huge, really wide and/or long. Not all 2 handed swords are taller than the wielder,
There are many shorter 2 handed swords.
Unless you play an asura….then even a dagger is taller than the wielder.
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
The new trait won t do anything for ele survivability.
You will be able to heal Others for more but the numbers of any healing on the ele itself will be unaffected by the trait.
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
So ele issue is surviving…
Thus we should take a trait that removes one of our best survival traits in order to heal allies?
Doesn t make much sense as a grandmaster trait….i wouldn’t even consider it at master possibly….
Btw i will never be a healing bot…i d rather stop playing i already had to leave some guild raids due to the fact i was demanded to play staff or leave….
No ty…..
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
They are nothing more than skills…they track a player and deal damage every X second.
They don t do anything else.
They don t change basing on opponent action or anything they just keep doing the same stuff.
AI is a different thing…
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
What if finally they remove stats from equip or make them adjustable on the fly like traits?
Well we can dream at least….
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
That build is somehow old….using one almost identical since 5 months…
Aside the interesting idea on the elite…..i was trying it in PvE against certain bosses but didn t think of www.
Unfortunately is lackluster VS thieves but nice for zergs
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
Frankly i don t like their effort to push ele in the healer role…
Something they said it was boring and was the reason behind the lack of trinity in gw2.
Hope other traits will be better
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
Its quite wrong and shortsighted saying zerker ruins pve.
BAD AI + 1HKO ruins pve…..
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
I just hope they won t force more open pve down our throat…
I mean i hope they don t take away what we already have….since its begnning to be a bad habit….(fotm level, flamekissed armor, Central city HUB, celestial equipment……).
If they plan to make traits unlockable they just should avoid to remove old traits from players already using them.
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
could you ask if they plan any sort of one time stat change since they are possibly changing the functionality?
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
Has the defensive chest access to knight stats?
They are nice for www.
GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.
).